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Rawthorm
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2006.09.18 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog This thread can be cleanly summed up as follows;
and our killboard is a bizarre comedy sketch, which does not include all losses (check the Establishment killboard, its a complete JOKE with zero reported losses).
Excuse me? Are you as blind as you are stupid?
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.18 12:11:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Rawthorm
Originally by: Butter Dog This thread can be cleanly summed up as follows;
and our killboard is a bizarre comedy sketch, which does not include all losses (check the Establishment killboard, its a complete JOKE with zero reported losses).
Excuse me? Are you as blind as you are stupid?
My mistake, I must have been confusing you with another killboard... faulty memory. Apologies.
Either way, not all Pirate Coalition losses are reported and ALL of my other points in the thread (far more important than that one) still stand.
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Rawthorm
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2006.09.18 12:20:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Rawthorm
Originally by: Butter Dog This thread can be cleanly summed up as follows;
and our killboard is a bizarre comedy sketch, which does not include all losses (check the Establishment killboard, its a complete JOKE with zero reported losses).
Excuse me? Are you as blind as you are stupid?
My mistake, I must have been confusing you with another killboard... faulty memory. Apologies.
Either way, not all Pirate Coalition losses are reported and ALL of my other points in the thread (far more important than that one) still stand.
Apology accepted. If in doubt check the Finite Horizon Killboard as its the one we use to guage the performance in this war. (any personal boards are irelivant) All corp leaders do their best to transpose any loses to the Finite board however this coalition being made of so many small corps its easy to have one or two slip through the *****s. Send me any mails that are missing and they will be posted.
As for your other points, we WERE threatening soverignty until ISS saw it fit to fund UK's pos spaming efforts. This has not hindered us however as we are slowing grinding your pos's down, while you fail to take down a single one of ours since the 2 bugged towers (even with hired help)
Hell while we are on the subject i'd like to note that while UK are putting up a valiant fight, its ISS all the way that is desperatly trying to pull every string behind the scenes they can to stop us. Your throwing in ISK and every favour you can muster into stopping us and all you've done so far is burnt a hole in your wallet (a very insignifiant portion to ISS no doubt but alot of ISK none the less.)
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.18 12:26:00 -
[64]
Providence is a warzone anyway due to the presence of these terrorists and other pirates. The arrival of this "pirate coalition" matters little to the overall picture of stability in the region. Normal Amarrian patrols in the area will of course attack UshraKhan as they are our mortal enemies. Likewise pirates will also be brought to Gods holy justice.
Sin is Sin is Sin. Some know only darkness and evil. God will be your cashier as you finish your shopping trip in the store of life. Will you have enough goodness in you to pay the bill?
Archbishop
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Yona Kibuto
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Posted - 2006.09.18 12:27:00 -
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Do not ask yourself what an amarrian do in UshraÆKhan. Ask yourself what an amarrian can do FOR UshraÆKhan! I am not a spy or a traitor. I just try to not have a existence in vain. There are no restrictions in the Providence about my nationality. In addition, for that I choose to be with UshraÆKhan! Not being pushed by politics and religion in my actions. I choose to be a free being.
Now, I have a big doubt about losing the UNITY Station. That is because everybody will fight against terrorists. This will not be a pleasant time or place to fly safe in Universe, no matter that you are Caldari, Gallente, Amarr or Minmatar. You will have always the same problems in traveling safe. The terrorism have not place and must not have place among us. What happened now in Providence is not a new thing. However, in several times, the history teaches us that not the evil wins. Maybe the battle will be lost for us, but not the war. The WAR with terrorism and piracy is for ALL of us.
If all the people from the Univers want to be pirates, I must say that I do not have my place here. I will hibernate in UNITY for always. I will not lose anything. A bunch of mindless pirates will not conquer my integrity in spirit and thoughts.
Do not consider that is not your war. It will be soon enough. Believe me! Paying the ransom is not for ending this war. It will end for sure the existence of UshraÆKhan.
DO NOT LET THE PIRATES WIN! FIGHT THEM!
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dralid maximus
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.18 12:27:00 -
[66]
UK, dont bow for this pathetic attempt of ransom! Pirates are first never to be trusted, NEVER! And second, do not give in to your freedom, which you recaptured from the amarr ... shame to give it back to scum pirates!
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Tomic
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Posted - 2006.09.18 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Pirates always have, and always will operate in Providence, this is fact. The intention of this release is to drop the ball in Ushra'khan's court, so to speak.
Originally by: Verone
Payment for our withdrawl from attack on the outpost in 9UY4-H will be Thirty Billion ( 30,000,000,000.00 ) Interstellar Kredits, this price is not negotiable.
I'm sorry, what is the incentive to pay you the isk? So they can see you all in shiny new hacs, griefing them with even more ease? Personally I think you should be told where to go.
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Traandus
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Posted - 2006.09.18 12:29:00 -
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Do not ask yourself what an amarrian do in UshraÆKhan. Ask yourself what an amarrian can do FOR UshraÆKhan! I am not a spy or a traitor. I just try to not have a existence in vain. There are no restrictions in the Providence about my nationality. In addition, for that I choose to be with UshraÆKhan! Not being pushed by politics and religion in my actions. I choose to be a free being.
Now, I have a big doubt about losing the UNITY Station. That is because everybody will fight against terrorists. This will not be a pleasant time or place to fly safe in Universe, no matter that you are Caldari, Gallente, Amarr or Minmatar. You will have always the same problems in traveling safe. The terrorism have not place and must not have place among us. What happened now in Providence is not a new thing. However, in several times, the history teaches us that not the evil wins. Maybe the battle will be lost for us, but not the war. The WAR with terrorism and piracy is for ALL of us.
If all the people from the Univers want to be pirates, I must say that I do not have my place here. I will hibernate in UNITY for always. I will not lose anything. A bunch of mindless pirates will not conquer my integrity in spirit and thoughts.
Do not consider that is not your war. It will be soon enough. Believe me! Paying the ransom is not for ending this war. It will end for sure the existence of UshraÆKhan.
DO NOT LET THE PIRATES WIN! FIGHT THEM!
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Maggot
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.18 12:39:00 -
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U'K is nowhere near loosing this system. We have stronger defences controlling the system than we did 5 weeks ago. We have been killing more tonnage than we have been losing for the last two weeks. Our capital capabilities have grown. We have more freinds than ever who wish to assist.
However we do remain frustrated at the fragility of of our ship's drive systems. It is clear to all that attacking a defended structure is currently impossible.
Maggot.
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Spiderweb
GENERIC RACE Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.18 13:09:00 -
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Im sheding a tear for all those little pirate clones that are furiously trying to find an exit for their futile attempts to hurt those who fight for freedom.
Poor malfunctioning on your cognitive subproccesors makes you see half of the picture I notice.
No problems though, you are providing to this region a lot more than you actually hurt. We should be grateful for the ignorance of those who call themselves pirates, and gourge on their plastic pods as long as we are able to.
I myself, was born caldari. But Its the meaning of ones beliefs that defines its origins and goals.
You can poke all you want, but expect a punch to be coming...
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.18 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm
As for your other points, we WERE threatening soverignty until ISS saw it fit to fund UK's pos spaming efforts.
I think you'll find we're self-funded spammers.  -----------------------------------------
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.18 13:47:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Rawthorm
Hell while we are on the subject i'd like to note that while UK are putting up a valiant fight, its ISS all the way that is desperatly trying to pull every string behind the scenes they can to stop us. Your throwing in ISK and every favour you can muster into stopping us and all you've done so far is burnt a hole in your wallet (a very insignifiant portion to ISS no doubt but alot of ISK none the less.)
Heh, funny.
When I check the map it clearly states that Sov belongs to U'K.
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Copenhagen
Amarr JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.18 14:02:00 -
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How has the lag been over there?
With all those forces shooting each other you would think the lag monster would be the only winner.
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Dentad
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
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Posted - 2006.09.18 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm Hell while we are on the subject i'd like to note that while UK are putting up a valiant fight, its ISS all the way that is desperatly trying to pull every string behind the scenes they can to stop us. Your throwing in ISK and every favour you can muster into stopping us and all you've done so far is burnt a hole in your wallet (a very insignifiant portion to ISS no doubt but alot of ISK none the less.)
Re-read my earlier post on getting better intel.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.09.18 14:28:00 -
[75]
Originally by: ParMizaN A very interesting conflict; one that I believe the MC would be suited for once we are free of our current contract, hmm? 
Money. It's always money for you, then.
I've got a feeling like there'll be quite a few of the K'in willing to come over there once free of the mercenaries - for free. --
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Mangold
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.18 14:32:00 -
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The FZN killboard is a joke. Last time I checked it (4 days ago) approx 50% of your losses were missing. That is only 50% of the losses I found on U'K killboard and personally know of where posted on the FZN killboard.
Anyway, killboards deosn't tell the whole story. By the looks of it we still hold Unity and you don't.
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.18 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm
Originally by: Riddari This outpost will not be controlled by pirate forces.
Does the mighty Ascendant Frontier plan on taking it then?
No
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.09.18 14:40:00 -
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So much hate, so much badmouthing... It's good to see we're doing our job.
Originally by: Nyphur Ah, my good friend Verone. I personally run ISS Consido and a corpmate runs ISS Fabrica. Should you actually try to take them over, I should warn you that the outposts don't belong to the ISS but to the dozens of wealthy individuals and corporations who own shares in the providence IPO. Piracy is one thing but the ISS public outposts are public property and civillian targets - trying to take them is just not cricket. Reputation counts for a lot these days. I know some of the corps involved in the unity affair wouldn't mind being known as the guys that hijacked public property for a few days but I've always expected a good level of decency from Veto.
You must understand that as pirates, you're a threat to everyone in the region and neighbouring regions and there's so much support out there that you simply won't be able to take and hold an outpost by force. At the very best, there'll be some soverignty ping pong and you'll probably try to make a few failed attempts to sell the outpost since nobody in their right mind would buy a stolen outpost that is in the midst of a war. It's all terribly good training for our pilots, though, and I'm sure everyone's having a great deal of fun.
Also, since you are a man of your word, I'd like to see an itemised list for that 16 billion isk figure. You wouldn't be lying or artificially inflating that now, would you?
Nyphur, if you would like to talk about irony, a "Very close friend" of mine happens to be a significant shareholder in the Providence IPO, as well as Marginis and Borealis, public indeed.
It's humerous to see that the very people we fight allow our corporation to more than pay for our losses, and make a healthy profit without lifting a finger.
As for me being a man of my word, I can assure you that's true. You can see a full itemised list of the 16 billion, now 17, at www.finite-horizon.com
I also stand corrected regarding the involvement of SMASH, it was indeed three large towers they reinforced seemingly as revenge for our destruction of an enemy tower which was constructing a Nidhoggur class carrier when it exploded. However none of the three towers reinforced by SMASH were destroyed, so in effect the cost of hiring them was wasted.
On another note, keep paying those dividends my friend, they're lining our pockets quite nicely.
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Lord Spidey
Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Spidey on 18/09/2006 15:07:24
Originally by: Riddari This outpost will not be controlled by pirate forces.
MoM arent Pirates. Rather ASCN/AXE are pirates for trying to enforce their will on the HED pipe
Anyway U'K so far has done a goodjob as have ASCN/AXE/MC/Smash/Sylph/CVA/PIE/ISS/Other Random Do'Gooders.
Hopefully the 9UYarea of space will be reinforced with more power from the great ones soon allowing assualts on static structures without destroying our nook of the universe.
Yes the station is still in U'K hands, yes half a dozen 0.0 alliances and their lapdogs have held us to a stalemate with soverignty while we inflict a large amount of isk losses ,however; at the end of the day our unorganized band...many of whom have never engaged in an operation of this magnitude are STILL HERE.
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Endless
Caldari Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Endless on 18/09/2006 15:08:58
Originally by: Mangold The FZN killboard is a joke. Last time I checked it (4 days ago) approx 50% of your losses were missing. That is only 50% of the losses I found on U'K killboard and personally know of where posted on the FZN killboard.
Anyway, killboards deosn't tell the whole story. By the looks of it we still hold Unity and you don't.
Ok step up and send us the missing mails, we will happily post them and repremand the offending pilot. Or are you going to rely on someone else to do this simple task for you aswell?
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Mynas Atoch
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 18/09/2006 15:18:11
Originally by: Verone I also stand corrected regarding the involvement of SMASH, it was indeed three large towers they reinforced seemingly as revenge for our destruction of an enemy tower which was constructing a Nidhoggur class carrier when it exploded. However none of the three towers reinforced by SMASH were destroyed, so in effect the cost of hiring them was wasted.
Tell them WHY we were unable to finish them off Verone.
Tell them about Saturday and the carrier recharging the first we ganked into structure for the clients and nodes to crash. By which time you had so many defenders present that an opposed attack would have resulted in node crash after node crash. Tell them about Sunday when key players clients freezing or crashing resulted in an aborted attack and a lost dread and still the node crashed.
Tell them about the POS you DID manage to finish off where you were able to get your attacks in before the UK+ISS fleet returned from their day labours.
Boast about schedules and spatial anomolies and magical returns of capital ships and serendipitous equipment crashes all you wish.
You will not prevail.
Mynas Atoch, Admiral, ISS Navy Task Force @ ISS Consido
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:21:00 -
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I find this post funny. I've been following this conflict for several months now and remember 'you' pirates laughing, poking and other such crap when you 'added' your buddies in the fight over a month and a half ago and did nothing of the sort of complain then did you? Now that the residents and friends of UK are now getting tired of this crap one way or another and going against your attempts come on here after a time and whine about it. Thats all what this post is seen as from my perspective. UK & allies continue to give the scum hell. A bully isn't so much of a bully when the tables get turned around against his favor, you reap what you sow.
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Gungankllr
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Gungankllr on 18/09/2006 15:23:46 The only reason I can think of that one would offer a ransom so much higher than the value of the item in question is to just show off. (i.e. "Look at me, I'm an attention *****")
As it stands the situation is kind of like trying to rob a locked bank with all the guards inside, and you're beating on the door with a twinkie saying you'll go away if they pay you in ding-dongs.
Hidden in this signature is a secret message.
I like pie.
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Nick Curso
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:39:00 -
[84]
Yarr?
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Naliana
Gallente Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:41:00 -
[85]
Ah, such incredulous posturing by the pirate corporations here. You appear to have an almost lascivious desire to prove yourself to be 'doing fine', when in all reality, you aren't. Any losses you may have conferred upon the anti-pirate consortium of alliances defending 9UY, inflated or not, seem to be being absorbed quite happily. Even if, as you say, you've caused 16 billion of damage, it's hardly weakened things. If anything, more defenders arrive daily.
You are like the hunter, who has come to attack the bear, only to find himself underpowered, so you stand up high and bellow loud, attempting to intimidate vacuously. But it will not work, we will prevail and you shall be driven from Unity and Providence will be made a safer place for all.
Our endeavour will not fail. We are the resolute, the many, the proud. Providence is in the hearts of all, ISS, Ushra'Kahn, CVA, Sylph Alliance, and many more besides. We will not let these pirates, nay, terrorists, succeed in their actions and despoil what so many people have strived to create.
It has been said, that all it takes for evil to succeed, is for good men to sit back and do nothing. Well, I intend to do whatever I can, to ensure that Providence, and the people that both use it, and live in it, prosper.
Who's with me! ~ Station Manager, ISS Fabrica, Providence Region. --
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mynas Atoch Tell them WHY we were unable to finish them off Verone.
Carriers from FZN, EST and CCK arrived to remote repair the shields before anyone could launch an attack. Good timing on our part.
Originally by: Mynas Atoch Tell them about Saturday and the carrier recharging the first we ganked into structure for the clients and nodes to crash. By which time you had so many defenders present that an opposed attack would have resulted in node crash after node crash.
A system crash is not our fault, using a capital ship to repair the shields of a starbase is a valid tactic.
Originally by: Mynas Atoch Tell them about Sunday when key players clients freezing or crashing resulted in an aborted attack and a lost dread and still the node crashed.
Your fleet of battleships warped in INSIDE the gun range of a MATARI Tower when it was reinforced. Projectiles can still fire when the POS is reinforced. They then proceeded to run away when they realised their mistake, losing ships in the process and leaving an U'K dread behind. We tackled it and killed it as your fleet returned to defend, and the node crashed on your warp in.
Originally by: Mynas Atoch Tell them about the POS you DID manage to finish off where you were able to get your attacks in before the UK+ISS fleet returned from their day labours.
Again, good timing on our part which resulted in th siezure of the build components for a Nidhoggur.
Originally by: Mynas Atoch Boast about schedules and spatial anomolies and magical returns of capital ships and serendipitous equipment crashes all you wish.
I beleive it has been ISS bragging in local comms on Sunday about "crashing a node".
Please take your rabbling elsewhere.
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Nick Curso
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.18 15:44:00 -
[87]
Yarr?
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INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2006.09.18 16:03:00 -
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free panties to all the lovely piwates wrecking havoc on such puny souls. this sounds realy interesting.
my faith is with you gents and ladies of terror.
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Mynas Atoch
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.18 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Verone ... using a capital ship to repair the shields of a starbase is a valid tactic.
Of course a system crash was not your fault .. why do you wriggle so?
The only reason you could use capital ships to repair the shields was our inability to kill them without crashing the entire constellation. As we demonstrated, to the detriment of one of your carrier pilots' underwear.
No doubt had we succeeded in reducing the final points of stuctural integrity, as our own carriers' systems crashed many AU away, your entreaties to the gods would have been met with yet another preternaturally resurrected Capital Ship.
Your tenure in 9UY is in the hands of the gods. The time will come when even they turn a deaf ear to your pleas.
You will NOT prevail.
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Ryn0
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2006.09.18 16:18:00 -
[90]
Yarr!
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