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Ryle Caldari Righteous-Indignation	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:11:00 - [91] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Lenore el'Draes Originally by: Ikvar This happened because two ASCN members shot at me in Delve, and no I didn't die because their skills weren't very good. Oh noes, someone shot at you. Those damn griefers! Will they never leave us non-combat pilots alone? Uh, guys who said they wouldn't shoot us shooting us in our friendly space? Yes it's very oh noes, go get moderated you alt. Wait, I'm confused. See, normally when two large entities have an agreement not to shoot each other, and a few lower-down pilots get in a tangle, the people way up the tree talk about it and work it out. However, this just screams "we're looking for an excuse to assist BoB." As I said in my previous post (albeit sarcasticly), this really doesn't come as any surprise to anyone, and that's why you're getting the responses you're getting. ------------------------------- -If you're going through Hell... Keep going.-
Raivotar Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:11:00 - [92] Originally by: Susa Ou If a mercenary alliance seeking moral justifications to fight was not interesting enough, considering the whole situation and the many predictions that MC would fight against ASCN for various and sometimes obvious reasons. So please, quit with the justification and march against ASCN. The only contingent factor in this war, the hopes that MC would show some independence has ended (to everyones suprise). So lets get this war over so the rest of us can see how the future looks. We all knew how it would play out, so the propaganda is meaningless. Anyone who actually belives it already did. See, most of us don't care who wins or loses, the drama is the real show. Yea. ALT newsweek tells it. ------------------------------------------------ I'm scissors. Nerf rocks. Paper is fine.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:12:00 - [93] Originally by: Coahim Madden Hmmm so if cyvok does it, hes a bad bad man, but seleene is just giving out info? Seleene's a bad bad lady, but she's pretty so gets away with much more.
Murphy Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:12:00 - [94] Originally by: Seleene I will say this one last time - until Hugh says we're on contract, this is just a simple standings notification. We felt making it public would be the best way to inform ASCN & AXE so that there would be no confusion. Had Cyvok not made his annoucement the other day based off of intel that was beyond faulty, then maybe this would not have happened. I'm not especially happy about this, but in this case I had to honor the wishes of my alliance and had little choice in the matter. Feel free to spin away. You said this is only a standing change, does that mean you're going to stay out of our space or are you going to be doing raids?
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:13:00 - [95] Lol, you're being setup. BoB has so many spies in ASCN they probably sent a few to provoke MC to get some help. God knows they need it. And an alliance using TS spies and forum spies is really not beyond setting up an incident I bet.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:13:00 - [96] Originally by: Murphy Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Murphy Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about. Try reading what Sel and Ikvar just posted then come back and post again. Oh and this isn't the first time you shot one of us only last week an Axe pilot shot at an MC member when we were meant to be blue. Maybe they posted while I was making my post? and do you actually have a name of the axe pilot who shot at you last week? Yes Yes I do his name is Da'Kor.
Shinjuro Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:13:00 - [97] Originally by: hantwo Originally by: Seleene MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. why didn't you just title this post "MC spreads em for BoB and takes it up the Oh Yeeeeaaaaaaaa" LOLOLOL.. That sir was THE best true forum post of the wee..mont...yea.. EVER! Alts rule the bizzy.
Coahim Madden eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:14:00 - [98] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Coahim Madden Hmmm so if cyvok does it, hes a bad bad man, but seleene is just giving out info? Seleene's a bad bad lady, but she's pretty so gets away with much more. Aha, I will have to start dressing up I guess this weekend, will that get me off primary list? ------- Theres 2 kinds of people in the world. 1. Those that need closure
Velsharoon Gallente Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:15:00 - [99] Edited by: Velsharoon on 05/10/2006 22:15:35 You guys derriding the MC are muppets, what would you do in their situation, when its been stated MC will not be hunted down then ASCN actually goes into Delve and shoots MC, even when the MC wouldnt have engaged Now it could have been messy if MC was flying along side a bob, say sharing part of the journey or something. But from what we can see this was a solo MC pilot either in Delve travelling or in MC claimed space. Either way they chose to attack, so there was a standings change? Is it me or is the average IQ of forum dwellers not improving despite the alt ban
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:15:00 - [100] Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Kozak Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's *****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. I don't believe we've declared war here, also I don't think we had anything to do with BoB's last FIX war? Maybe we're in Fountain? Nope. Last one I remember was us shooting Goons, and that was on contract, Hugh said so, but re-reading your post you seem upset? Take it easy, listen to classical music, drink a nice cup of tea and have some fancy cakes. So you're saying seleene didn't have to post anything? because there is no war? He could have used the pm function as one of your members so eloquently stated. The IRONY of this post and it's wording is completely lost on you, isn't it? Hmmm so if cyvok does it, hes a bad bad man, but seleene is just giving out info? Look up the words "irony" and "parody" when you get a moment. Cheers.

Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:16:00 - [101] gee.. I can barely contain myself here... some of you people clearly disengage your brains when you head over to the forums... Facts: 1. Cyvok set FIX and MC to 0.0, which was pretty much the igniting spark for the BoB vs ASCN war. 2. ASCN posted repeatedly that the 0.0 was pre-emptive as they expected to get attacked by both FIX and MC at some point. now that MC has been shot by ASCN pilots outside of ASCN space, MC is doing what any normal entity would do and award a -10 standing. The fact that Seleene, chose to do it so publicly is probably as payback for Cyvok¦s original 0.0 standing change which also done publicly. Furthermore, Seleene has said that MC won¦t even be actively attacking ASCN in their space... they might if they get bored but not atm. So what this thread is about is effectivley exchanging one slap in the face for another.. but not a whole lot has changed. Not even FIX is taking part in the BoB vs ASCN war, as Avernus has stated on the map thread. Now lets all put the tinfoil hats away.. and maybe post stuff that makes sense....I know its hard but we can try no?
Coahim Madden eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:16:00 - [102] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Kozak Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's ****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. I don't believe we've declared war here, also I don't think we had anything to do with BoB's last FIX war? Maybe we're in Fountain? Nope. Last one I remember was us shooting Goons, and that was on contract, Hugh said so, but re-reading your post you seem upset? Take it easy, listen to classical music, drink a nice cup of tea and have some fancy cakes. So you're saying seleene didn't have to post anything? because there is no war? He could have used the pm function as one of your members so eloquently stated. The IRONY of this post and it's wording is completely lost on you, isn't it? Hmmm so if cyvok does it, hes a bad bad man, but seleene is just giving out info? Look up the words "irony" and "parody" when you get a moment. Cheers. Looking up stuff is boring... ------- Theres 2 kinds of people in the world.* 1. Those that need closure
Lo3d3R Implant Liberation Front Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:17:00 - [103] Edited by: Lo3d3R on 05/10/2006 22:18:44 Erase the Xetic scum from the map !!! (btw: Foyle = Cyvok) ___________________ Eating Chopped Bear:
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:18:00 - [104] Originally by: Malachon Draco Lol, you're being setup. BoB has so many spies in ASCN they probably sent a few to provoke MC to get some help. God knows they need it. And an alliance using TS spies and forum spies is really not beyond setting up an incident I bet.
Elexi Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:19:00 - [105] Originally by: Malachon Draco Lol, you're being setup. BoB has so many spies in ASCN they probably sent a few to provoke MC to get some help. God knows they need it. And an alliance using TS spies and forum spies is really not beyond setting up an incident I bet. I guess you better kick the guys who shot at the mc.. cos they must be spies lol
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:19:00 - [106] Originally by: Murphy Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about. http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=details&id=21897 Which happened after I jumped into 36N, this guy and some LV were camping the gate (we got LV at blue and they lol'd as we put this guy down): ------------------------------------------------------------ Gamelog Listener: Eleese Session started: 2006.09.26 20:07:28 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2006.09.26 20:07:51 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) lightly hits you, doing 3.9 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:51 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) lightly hits you, doing 3.8 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) lightly hits you, doing 4.1 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 7.5 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:56 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) barely scratches you, causing 3.3 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Piranha Light Missile belonging to Zizoo hits you, doing 35.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Piranha Light Missile belonging to Zizoo hits you, doing 35.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) aims well at you, inflicting 7.0 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:59 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 8.1 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:00 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) lightly hits you, doing 3.8 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) aims well at you, inflicting 6.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 8.3 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:05 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) barely scratches you, causing 3.5 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:05 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) aims well at you, inflicting 6.5 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:08 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 8.4 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:08 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 8.4 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:09 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Piranha Light Missile belonging to Zizoo hits you, doing 35.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:09 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Piranha Light Missile belonging to Zizoo hits you, doing 35.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:11 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II misses Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) completely. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:11 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II misses Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) completely. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:11 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II glances off Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin), causing no real damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:15 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II misses Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) completely. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:16 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II misses Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) completely. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:16 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II glances off Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin), causing no real damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:20 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II glances off Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin), causing no real damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:21 ] (combat - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Tadamitsu Solar Storm Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:20:00 - [107] Its sad that this has occurred, but if the actions of two people can predicate a -10 change do what you need. note to self, cut off Cordys access Solar Storm CEO Want to join the storm?
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:20:00 - [108] well thats supprizing.. . not.. ->My Vids<-
Josiah Bartlet Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:20:00 - [109] Originally by: Andy Pipkin No, no, the real reason is of course BoB hired the MC to make a forum post so they had a new post to spam. Can the OBVIOUS ASCN alts please not post with npc corporation alts? --- SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR
Zhalakin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:21:00 - [110] Originally by: Orange Species I sense blood being spilt on the shire oh god sauron+MC and BoB.. poor hobbits

Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:21:00 - [111] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Which happened after I jumped into 36N, this guy and some LV were camping the gate (we got LV at blue and they lol'd as we put this guy down): Aye but to be fair we took a crow in payment. That one was just a misunderstanding on Zizoo's part I think.
LoxyRider Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:21:00 - [112] Why did MC set ASCN/AXE to -10? A MC pilot was shot at by an ASCN pilot, he was not killed but aggresion is enough, I assume all ASCN pilots are able to read the ally tab on their overview. As for AXE they are closely linked to ASCN so this simply applys to them as well. What does -10 mean? MC does not shoot neutrals anywhere in Eve, -10 standings is set for unfriendly corps/alliances and pirates. MC are free to fire on these corps/alliances at any point and may be seen raiding them when off contract. So is MC now invading ASCN? No, -10 is just -10, we have not at this time been contracted against ASCN and we will not be invading or attacking them beyond small raids if our pilots so wish. I must however say this is the current situation, the MC are ready to deploy to any war zone at any time for the right fee. This is clearly an excuse for war! Last week a MC carrier jumped through Stain from Period Basis traveling to our contract area at the time of Providence. ASCN decided this was us working with BOB to place 50 capital ships in jump range of their systems and set the MC to 0.0 standing revoking our previous agreements for nothing. Today an ASCN pilot opened fire on a MC pilot, in combination with the insult of the previous week's announcment from Cyvok our standings change seems fairly resonable. THANKYOUCOMEAGAIN!
hitech redneck Digital Mind Crimes	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:22:00 - [113] No matter what mc post we all knew it was a matter of time before bob brought thier slaves into this. As it was said mc was tied up with another project they had. It done so bo can get the help they need to fight the industrial allienc
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:25:00 - [114] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Which happened after I jumped into 36N, this guy and some LV were camping the gate (we got LV at blue and they lol'd as we put this guy down): Aye but to be fair we took a crow in payment. That one was just a misunderstanding on Zizoo's part I think. True, then again this does show that some AXE/ASCN pilots do have a problem understanding standings or need to sort their overview setttings a wee bit :-p - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Zhalakin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:26:00 - [115] Originally by: hitech redneck No matter what mc post we all knew it was a matter of time before bob brought thier slaves into this. As it was said mc was tied up with another project they had. It done so bo can get the help they need to fight the industrial allienc You of all ppl must know that MC are BoB alts *WTS: clueBEST CLUE EVER***
CYVOK Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:26:00 - [116] Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK-
Havras the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:27:00 - [117] Hmm.. so.. two pilots an Alliance makes eh? Smooth.. very diplomatic way to handle it. As to why it happened... umm.. someone had a very good point. We know BOB has spies in our alliance... this is fact, we won't go into why they need spies to beat "lousy PVPers". It wouldn't be to much of a stretch that they had two of them head on out to start trouble wherever they could for ASCN. Seleene, if you didn't stop and think about that possibility, and contact ASCN HC or the person's CEO to see what happened, then it really does look like you were looking for any excuse. (And no, this isn't a flame)
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:29:00 - [118] Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- How does it feel to have your paranoid delusions manifest themselves in your own pilots?
LoxyRider Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:29:00 - [119] Originally by: Havras Hmm.. so.. two pilots an Alliance makes eh? Smooth.. very diplomatic way to handle it. As to why it happened... umm.. someone had a very good point. We know BOB has spies in our alliance... this is fact, we won't go into why they need spies to beat "lousy PVPers". It wouldn't be to much of a stretch that they had two of them head on out to start trouble wherever they could for ASCN. Seleene, if you didn't stop and think about that possibility, and contact ASCN HC or the person's CEO to see what happened, then it really does look like you were looking for any excuse. (And no, this isn't a flame) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=401516
Gothikia Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:30:00 - [120] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- How does it feel to have your paranoid delusions manifest themselves in your own pilots? rofl



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