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Royaldo
KVA Noble Inc. THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.10.06 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Grimster
Originally by: Alistair Theisman <3 and respect Seleene, but...The only MC I want to shoot right now is Hans.
That's what everyone's saying, so we were thinking of holding a pinyata competition, BDCI will be stuffing Hans' hauler full of exotic dancers and everyone get's an alpha-strike hit at it.
1 Billion isk a ticket.
1b i way too much for him. say 200m and ill come running
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.10.06 19:50:00 -
[272]
Ok. Been through the whole thread. *sigh*
Is it just me or did the intelligence level drop by like ten thousand f00kin points? Are you all chavs that cant read? I mean jesus h christ, there have been posts far less comprehensive than the explanations in this one that has been perfectly understood by the other party. The insaine amount of pure stupidity in this thread beyond me tbhf. I mean come on!
And again, if you like me to post the mail of me being dropped by AXE and ASCN feel free to convo me. You know what though, I didnt really care then, I dont care about my ship or my pod now and it was "solved" by talking and I accepted it as "**** happens". Apperantly ASCN does not swing the same way being the one party that first came on GalNet explaning a standing change based on bad intelligence!
Hell, Nez did a perfectly balanced post, and correct to the f00kin point tbh and not ONE person did comment on it. Then again...the truth cant be argued!
Arrg! Now you got me all upset! More drink damnit! >.<
Regards, Lowa
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Cabadrin
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.06 20:03:00 -
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I visited this thread and all I got was this lousy reply (and chlamydia). _______________________________________________
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Velsharoon
Gallente Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.10.06 20:18:00 -
[274]
That was off minerva.
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Ange1
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2006.10.06 20:42:00 -
[275]
Originally by: War Bear The only capital ship we were drooling over getting our hands on was The Establishment's Nyx.
Why does everyone want our Nyx dead
The Establishment is at your service...
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.06 20:46:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Ange1
Originally by: War Bear The only capital ship we were drooling over getting our hands on was The Establishment's Nyx.
Why does everyone want our Nyx dead
Because you steal children's lunch money with it, m8! -
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Ange1
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2006.10.06 20:53:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Seleene
Because you steal children's lunch money with it, m8!
This game needs an evil Uber pirate ship thats the stuff of Myth
The Establishment is at your service...
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Taedrin
Gallente Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.07 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: Taedrin on 07/10/2006 00:53:12 Alright, let me see if I'm getting this right
1) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 2) ASCN soils pants 3) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 4) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 5) ASCN -> MC relation set to neutral 6) Cyvok announces change publicly in forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 9) Seleene announces change publicly in forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever.
If this is essentially what happened, then let me say that I am personally happy that I am not a part of any major alliance, if this is how they all conduct themselves. As far as I can see, the leaders of both MC and ASCN have been immature and undignified. Just because Cyvok decided to forgo any and all diplomacy doesn't make it any better for Seleene to do so.
[EDIT] unqualified "you" [/EDIT]
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Ronja Mistysdottir
Norsk Gruvedrift
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Posted - 2006.10.07 01:01:00 -
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Waagaa Ktlehr are in MC. Waagaa Ktlehr have started multiple wars involveing thousands of pilots.
That is why MC set ASCN to -10. Blame Waagaa Ktlehr. Well, he is really Omegaa's alt.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.07 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ronja Mistysdottir Waagaa Ktlehr are in MC. Waagaa Ktlehr have started multiple wars involveing thousands of pilots.
That is why MC set ASCN to -10. Blame Waagaa Ktlehr. Well, he is really Omegaa's alt.
I think you are onto something here... -
- One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them. |
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 07/10/2006 02:25:07
Originally by: Taedrin they Alright, let me see if I'm getting this right
1) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 2) ASCN soils pants 3) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 4) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 5) ASCN -> MC relation set to neutral 6) Cyvok announces change publicly in forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 9) Seleene announces change publicly in forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever.
Actually your timeline of events is out of wack..
Its more like this :
1) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 2) ASCN soils pants 3) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 4) Cyvok anounces MC + FIX relation is being set to neutral, publicly on forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 5) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 6) ASCN soils pants 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 publicly on forums as payback.
And that is the honest truth.. well perhaps ASCN didn't soil pants as much as stated.. but you get the picture.
So lets try and stick to the facts from now on.. and have some intelligent discourse, whoever's side you are on.. its not that hard.
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Dortock
The Scarlet Harmonic
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Posted - 2006.10.07 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
1) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 2) ASCN soils pants 3) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 4) Cyvok anounces MC + FIX relation is being set to neutral, publicly on forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 5) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 6) ASCN soils pants 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 publicly on forums as payback.
While I agree with you Nez, I would also say that ASCN being wrong doesn't make the MC right. CYVOK wasn't the best diplomat when he dealt the standings to MC/FIX, however, 2 pilots out of 5000 or w/e it is member alliance is far from representing what most of the alliance thinks.
The most logical solution would have been to take this up with CYVOK and gotten it sorted out. At the same time, I can see where the MC is coming from, but if I want to look at this with total neutrality; ASCN and MC both handled these events badly.
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Nebuli
Caldari Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.10.07 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dortock
Originally by: Nez Perces
1) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 2) ASCN soils pants 3) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 4) Cyvok anounces MC + FIX relation is being set to neutral, publicly on forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 5) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 6) ASCN soils pants 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 publicly on forums as payback.
While I agree with you Nez, I would also say that ASCN being wrong doesn't make the MC right. CYVOK wasn't the best diplomat when he dealt the standings to MC/FIX, however, 2 pilots out of 5000 or w/e it is member alliance is far from representing what most of the alliance thinks.
The most logical solution would have been to take this up with CYVOK and gotten it sorted out. At the same time, I can see where the MC is coming from, but if I want to look at this with total neutrality; ASCN and MC both handled these events badly.
This is EVE, if you want to set someone -10 you set them -10, you dont need to work it out diplomaticaly, you dont need to discuss it, you dont need a reason, the fact they came on here to even let them know is more than enough imo.
Knowhere does it say that before you set someone -10 you have to go through some long winded diplomacy bull.
CEO - Art of War
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Cheechako
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.07 03:14:00 -
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Edited by: Cheechako on 07/10/2006 03:19:34 Has anybody thought that the -10 was for our own pilots to be aware that ACSN et all will aggress first as was the case when we were 'neutral'? IE consider ACSN hostile.... There's been no hugh so the people on the jump to conclusion mat("we're doing a freebie for BoB, BoB paid us, etc") might want to rethink the situation.
Just a thought. Respect to Harlequinn for his well thought out post.
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Taedrin
Gallente Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.07 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli This is EVE, if you want to set someone -10 you set them -10, you dont need to work it out diplomaticaly, you dont need to discuss it, you dont need a reason, the fact they came on here to even let them know is more than enough imo.
Knowhere does it say that before you set someone -10 you have to go through some long winded diplomacy bull.
True - nowhere does it say you have to use diplomacy.
However, ASCN is an industrial alliance (at least as far as I can see), and as such diplomacy should be their main method to resolve disputes since PvP isn't their strong suit. Likewise, MC is a mercenary alliance. While also a PvP oriented alliance, if they wish to maintain the image that is necessary to attract potential clients, it would be best if they solved arbitrary disputes such as this diplomatically.
Neither Cyvok nor Seleene were thinking about what was BEST for their alliance. MC has alienated a potential (and very wealthy) client by abandoning diplomacy. ASCN seriously risked making an enemy by abandoning diplomacy. In fact, from the way things are looking - they HAVE made an enemy, which is a Bad Thing(tm) now that they are at war with BoB.
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Dortock
The Scarlet Harmonic
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Posted - 2006.10.07 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli
This is EVE, if you want to set someone -10 you set them -10, you dont need to work it out diplomaticaly, you dont need to discuss it, you dont need a reason, the fact they came on here to even let them know is more than enough imo.
Knowhere does it say that before you set someone -10 you have to go through some long winded diplomacy bull.
No, you don't. But if you are mantaining a reputation like the MC does, then yeah it might be crucial how the eve community views them, especially if they are in the merc business. If they weren't.. then yeah who would care? \
Btw, Kyguard says hi
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WETRAIN
Minmatar Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.10.07 04:34:00 -
[287]
Traxio is A wuss but i love him
Yo trax lets mine some omber in Dammalin like in the old days ^ ^
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When People are Ready the Master will come. - Original by Anihilus- |
Nira Li
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.07 09:21:00 -
[288]
lol ASCN did a Xetic?
You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
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Latex Mistress
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.07 09:37:00 -
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To ASCN and all the Lemmings who "don't care what you say" Click here and STFU.
kthx
As for Pestilence (or however you spell it): this is our contract page. If you would take but 45 seconds to see "The Big Blue" listed deep under contracts. It's been there for everyone to see, so we'd invite you to STFU too.
Love,
LM *Bringing truth to the truculent, one post at a time LM
Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.07 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 07/10/2006 09:37:56
Originally by: WETRAIN Traxio is A wuss but i love him
Yo trax lets mine some omber in Dammalin like in the old days ^ ^
I thought that was our alittle secret
Personally I agree with Nez as he usually has a level headed and inteligently (sP) written post unlike most forum posters (me included sometimes :P)
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Michuh
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.07 10:00:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Dortock Did BoB tell you to do this?
*chitters under his tin foil hat*
My god is this corp still going??
Maelstrom Recruitment
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Ange1
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2006.10.07 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ange1 on 07/10/2006 11:19:18
Originally by: Taedrin
3) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment
Originally by: Nez Perces
1) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment
THE Establishment.
The Establishment is at your service...
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.07 11:47:00 -
[293]
Now i am lost , which part of lord of the rings is this sceneexactly ? "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.07 13:02:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Latex Mistress
As for Pestilence (or however you spell it): this is our contract page. If you would take but 45 seconds to see "The Big Blue" listed deep under contracts. It's been there for everyone to see, so we'd invite you to STFU too.
Ah, it's on the internet, it must be true!
Killer blow there LM
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Sabadagus
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.07 14:28:00 -
[295]
Is this still you Deja? Its nice to see that Conin/MC is still important to you.
Althoug...you sound different theese days. Sort of testy and sour. And you used to be such a happy little camper :(
Hope you recover from whatever it is that ails you.
Hugs and kisses
Sab
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Cabadrin
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:13:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Velsharoon That was off minerva.
You noob, I put that title on Minerva _______________________________________________
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.07 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Pestillence on 07/10/2006 20:29:14
Originally by: Sabadagus Is this still you Deja? Its nice to see that Conin/MC is still important to you.
Althoug...you sound different theese days. Sort of testy and sour. And you used to be such a happy little camper :(
Hope you recover from whatever it is that ails you.
Hugs and kisses
Sab
Hello Sabadagus,
You of all people know I still <3 CONIN, I am just tired of the lies, spin and blobs of the alliance they joined. Thats why I left. Ofc CONIN are still important to me, lots of people I like and respect are there. You of all people should have realized this, you do so love this type of analysis
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hothead
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.10.08 01:58:00 -
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sooner or later BOB and MC will fight then an equal base of skills and player SP can be brought against each other and then we will see how good each side is... after all MC cant sit on the fence forever can they?? this aint a flame i would just like to see 2 of eve,s finest pvp forces go boom boom against each other.. i like both bob and MC ..please dont kill me
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.08 03:47:00 -
[299]
I for one feel highly disrespected that there is no banner with Hugh's nipples in this announcement.
We of ASCN demand equal MC announcement bling!
Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when backdoor bandit is in local.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog I for one feel highly disrespected that there is no banner with Hugh's nipples in this announcement.
We of ASCN demand equal MC announcement bling!
You know the drill; no contract, no nipples.
Cheers, Lowa
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