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Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:23:00 - [1] MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
LoxyRider Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:24:00 - [2] I love my ceo.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:24:00 - [3] No banner? :( - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:25:00 - [4] Those torpedoes slightly scratched my shield
Leosian Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:25:00 - [5] all hail the great Seleene
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:25:00 - [6] CARTH \o/ lets go hunt us some ASCN
Cpt Abestos Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:25:00 - [7] yarr harr?
EnglishBob 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:26:00 - [8] Well I don't know about anyone else, But this comes as a mighty shock to me. ------------------
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:26:00 - [9] Did BoB tell you to do this? chitters under his tin foil hat
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:26:00 - [10] Rgr that boss.

Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:27:00 - [11] Originally by: Hellraiza666 CARTH \o/ lets go hunt us some ASCN Dammit you messed up the MC posting For love of GOD fix the dam forum, annoying logging in then having to login again
Crohnx Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:27:00 - [12] where , show me killmail pls
Beringe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:27:00 - [13] Does that mean you'll be going after them, like you did with SMASH some time ago? Or does this simply mean you'll exchange missile-love whenever your paths cross? ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Lightof God Caldari Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:28:00 - [14] Interesting 2 major pvp alliences vs the major industrial defensive allience i wanna see how this ends.
Tigertex Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:28:00 - [15] Have fun guys
Lootcatcher	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:28:00 - [16] Yeah we didnt see this coming at all
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Crohnx where , show me killmail pls Seleene has the logs, we were told you wouldn't shoot us outside your space by a number of representives you choose to go abck on your word.
Crohnx Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:30:00 - [18] show the logs than
Rukaz Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:30:00 - [19] Noone shoots our Ikky :\|
Banedon Runestar Gallente 70th Blue Lions	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:31:00 - [20] The odds-makers in Jita just tipped the scales ever so slightly in BoB's favor now. Depending on how much MC gets into it, this could be a very short war.

Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:31:00 - [21] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Hellraiza666 CARTH \o/ lets go hunt us some ASCN Dammit you messed up the MC posting For love of GOD fix the dam forum, annoying logging in then having to login again dam, sorry, my alt ^
Malvahne Amarr NED-Clan R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Traxio Nacho For love of GOD fix the dam forum, annoying logging in then having to login again Wtf i thought it was just me
KSUDruid Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:32:00 - [23] /me lolz Glad to see you still have absolutely zero control over what your own pilots do Cyvok. So much for the peace loving "We just want to be left alone and build stuff!!1!1!" Shame really, I was having fun chaining you guys without anyone else jumpin' in the picture.. oh well -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre
Wesley Walker Hedion University	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:33:00 - [24] Who could not see this coming I guess you needed some excuse to go help your friends in BoB without looking like their alts and Bob did not want to look bad on the forums by having to hire mercs so this gets round the problem nicely eh.
Hakera Anari Higard	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:33:00 - [25] out of curiosity, what does -10 mean to MC? being as most space is nbsi anyways and you were reset to neutral for passing your dreads too close to their space iirc which if i still remember ascn rules, makes you can eligible target just about anywhere. im assuming it means your gonna pay visits to the shire and take bilbos ring?
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:33:00 - [26] Originally by: Crohnx show the logs than PM FTW :)
Princess Alvilda The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:34:00 - [27] Originally by: Sivona Originally by: Crohnx show the logs than PM FTW :) yes tell seleene that.
Beringe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:34:00 - [28] Hauler incident, mark II? ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:35:00 - [29] Originally by: Wesley Walker I guess you needed some excuse to go help your friends in BoB without looking like their alts and Bob did not want to look bad on the forums by having to hire mercs so this gets round the problem nicely eh. And thank the gods that the very excuse (supposedly) sought was supplied by pilots of Ascendant Frontier. Self ownage, it ain't pretty, but it sure is funny.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Wesley Walker Who could not see this coming I guess you needed some excuse to go help your friends in BoB without looking like their alts and Bob did not want to look bad on the forums by having to hire mercs so this gets round the problem nicely eh. Read the forum rules you're not allowed to post here now go away.

bigsteve Minmatar STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:36:00 - [31] And so it Begins
Wesley Walker Hedion University	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:37:00 - [32] Edited by: Wesley Walker on 05/10/2006 21:38:28 meh nvm your right, this is a place for the important posts of mains lol
gizli Umbra Congregatio	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:38:00 - [33] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Hellraiza666 CARTH \o/ lets go hunt us some ASCN Dammit you messed up the MC posting For love of GOD fix the dam forum, annoying logging in then having to login again Why dont you use the signature i made you trax, it would make your posts look alot cooler
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:39:00 - [34] Edited by: Nez Perces on 05/10/2006 21:40:39 ofc its no surprise this eventually happened..... well not when you take into account this quote... Originally by: Cyvok, dated 2006.09.28 05:05:00 ASCN & AXE are setting you both to 0.0, You know why. -CYVOK- (directed at FIX and MC) uhuh.. that was the igniting spark that started the whole war in the first place. So yeah no surprise at all.. that is unless you are wearing one of those wonderful tinfoil hats
Grainsalt Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:39:00 - [35] What a shock! Didn't see that coming.. Even if there was an incident, it wasn't exactly going to take much to get you in the fire was it? Anyway.. Welcome to the party. --- For T2 Tinfoil Hats, contact Grainsalt ingame.
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:40:00 - [36] I sense blood being spilt on the shire
Danari Amarr Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:41:00 - [37] Talk about pretexts. No matter I don't know anyone who didn't expect it.
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:41:00 - [38] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 05/10/2006 21:40:39 ofc its no surprise this eventually happened..... well not when you take into account this quote... Originally by: Cyvok, dated 2006.09.28 05:05:00 ASCN & AXE are setting you both to 0.0, You know why. -CYVOK- (directed at FIX and MC) uhuh.. that was the igniting spark that started the whole war in the first place. So yeah no surprise at all.. that is unless you are wearing one of those wonderful tinfoil hats chitters Tinfoil?!
Whoturned Outthelights	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:41:00 - [39] Originally by: Nez Perces ofc its no surprise this eventually happened..... well not when you take into account this quote... Originally by: Cyvok, dated 2006.09.28 05:05:00 ASCN & AXE are setting you both to 0.0, You know why. -CYVOK- uhuh.. that was the igniting spark that started the whole war in the first place. So yeah no surprise at all.. that is unless you are wearing one of those wonderful tinfoil hats Yeah cos setting someone to NBSI and making them unwelcome in your space is exactly the same as setting them to -10 and actively invading them with 100 dreads. Eh? Oh.
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:42:00 - [40] ASCN made a whoopsie. Max --------------------

Andy Pipkin	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:42:00 - [41] No, no, the real reason is of course BoB hired the MC to make a forum post so they had a new post to spam.
Gothikia Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:42:00 - [42] Can I please have a copy of the killmails please so I can sort this out, this should not have happened at all from anyone in Axiom Empire, if it did, im gonna eat them.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:43:00 - [43] The quoted post by Cyvok was a public slap in the face for both FIX and MC.. Tbh im surprised they both didnt declare war on ASCN right there and then, irrespective of what BoB might or might not do.
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:44:00 - [44] Edited by: Orange Species on 05/10/2006 21:44:32 Originally by: Gothikia Can I please have a copy of the killmails please You overrate your pilots abilities
Khayman33 Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:45:00 - [45] To envisage .
Stradivarious Minmatar Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:46:00 - [46] Right about now, if I were the ASCN guys, I'd be figuring out what a blanket party was, and treating "Armarnian Angel" to one.(spelling errors are his, not mine) shrug see you in space Sure, bring a knife to a gunfight.
Elexi Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:46:00 - [47] Edited by: Elexi on 05/10/2006 21:46:35 Originally by: Whoturned Outthelights Originally by: Nez Perces ofc its no surprise this eventually happened..... well not when you take into account this quote... Originally by: Cyvok, dated 2006.09.28 05:05:00 ASCN & AXE are setting you both to 0.0, You know why. -CYVOK- uhuh.. that was the igniting spark that started the whole war in the first place. So yeah no surprise at all.. that is unless you are wearing one of those wonderful tinfoil hats Yeah cos setting someone to NBSI and making them unwelcome in your space is exactly the same as setting them to -10 and actively invading them with 100 dreads. Eh? Oh. Well if cyvok wasnt paranoid this wouldnt have happened because mc would still be +2.5 and ascn pilots would not have accidently shot neutrals.
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:47:00 - [48] Originally by: Gothikia Can I please have a copy of the killmails please so I can sort this out, this should not have happened at all from anyone in Axiom Empire, if it did, im gonna eat them. omg, cordy loxy and carth gona come ***** slap you ♥
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:47:00 - [49] Originally by: Andy Pipkin No, no, the real reason is of course BoB hired the MC to make a forum post so they had a new post to spam. Unlikely it's contract, Hugh didn't say so.
Draximus Cane Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:48:00 - [50] Damn you Cyvock!! You made me reactivate my account! -------------------------------------------------

Riddari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:48:00 - [51] MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. ¼+¼ a history
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:49:00 - [52] Errrr ROFL i remember mentioning it in another thread that the standings reset was a bit premature. Now erm MC arent like going to steal my targets are they ? BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Dinger Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:49:00 - [53] Edited by: Dinger on 05/10/2006 21:55:11 Originally by: Whoturned Outthelights Originally by: Nez Perces ofc its no surprise this eventually happened..... well not when you take into account this quote... Originally by: Cyvok, dated 2006.09.28 05:05:00 ASCN & AXE are setting you both to 0.0, You know why. -CYVOK- uhuh.. that was the igniting spark that started the whole war in the first place. So yeah no surprise at all.. that is unless you are wearing one of those wonderful tinfoil hats Yeah cos setting someone to NBSI and making them unwelcome in your space is exactly the same as setting them to -10 and actively invading them with 100 dreads. Eh? Oh. Last I checked Delve was not ASCN space. Thanks go to Armarnian Angel for the fun to follow Edit, people posting in front of me Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. First, this isn't a contract, it's a -10, there's a difference. Second, the MC has never fabricated a contract, we don't need to, there are plenty of -5 and below types to alleviate our need for destruction during off contract periods, if we can ever drag ourselves from the 'roids of course (mining coalition ftw)
Elexi Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:50:00 - [54] Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. Not being funny but do you have evidence for this? cos its a pretty hollow statement without it.
Ryle Caldari Righteous-Indignation	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:51:00 - [55] OMG, NOBODY SAW THIS ONE COMING! Next you're going to tell us that MC and BoB are "friends." Will the shocking revelations never stop? ------------------------------- -If you're going through Hell... Keep going.-
OzaLoni Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:51:00 - [56] Welcome to the party MC
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:51:00 - [57] Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 05/10/2006 21:51:35 Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. Nice flamebait. I can assure you every contract BDCI ever had was for a client, thanks. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Muthsera S.A.S	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:52:00 - [58] LMAO.... Like MC whould ever keep out of this fight. Man grow some balls Seleene. Just say it like it is. You just needed a convinient excuse to get in on the action. No shame in admitting that. Rabble
Mystiel Raleigh Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:52:00 - [59] BOOYA
Ria Sotori Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:52:00 - [60] Bah its gonna get crowded again :( WTB: More BNC Modified Sensor Boosters II FTW!

Riddari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:52:00 - [61] Originally by: Elexi Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. Not being funny but do you have evidence for this? cos its a pretty hollow statement without it. If I had the same penchant for taking screenshots of their forums as BOB are, I would. ¼+¼ a history
NAFnist Rage of Angels	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:52:00 - [62] Edited by: NAFnist on 05/10/2006 21:52:08 Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr No banner? :( yeah no banner and we dont really care
pringprang Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:52:00 - [63] Nobody is going to believe you're joining in because one of your pilots got shot at. I'm not saying it didn't happen but you had your cards ready and were waiting to lay down your aces. Lets see what the future holds because we're looking for the royal flush. _____________________ We are not a mining corp. We are not a pvp corp. We are a 0.0 corp. CoRM is recruiting here
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:53:00 - [64] Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. It was not Axiom, but ASCN. And I no longer give a damn what anyone thinks. They are -10 which means if we see them, they get shot. It doesn't mean we're going to head down south and help anyone. I just can no longer justify telling my pilots to hold fire when the other side cannot keep their torpedoes and whatever to themselves. As for the rest, if someone pays me to care about this big war, then I'll give a damn and Hugh will say something. Otherwise, have fun with the lag. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
KSUDruid Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:53:00 - [65] Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. Got Any Proof Retarddi? Or is this just more of you're "OMG I KNOW WHO THE DEVS IN BOB ARE I'M GONNA EXPOSE YOU1!1!!" Nonsense again? Please dude, do yourself and your alliance a huge favor and just don't post ever again. -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre
Spartac0 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:54:00 - [66] oh dear... we'll finally see cryvok's tears
Coahim Madden eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:55:00 - [67] Originally by: KSUDruid Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. Got Any Proof Retarddi? Or is this just more of you're "OMG I KNOW WHO THE DEVS IN BOB ARE I'M GONNA EXPOSE YOU1!1!!" Nonsense again? Please dude, do yourself and your alliance a huge favor and just don't post ever again. breath in, breat out... it's just a game.... ------- Theres 2 kinds of people in the world. 1. Those that need closure
Kozak Caldari Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:55:00 - [68] Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's *****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. Wonder how that will fair on your being hired? I guess that's why MC built those stations. They know they'll need to make money by mining and npcing, since their only client is BoB.
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:56:00 - [69] This happened because two ASCN members shot at me in Delve, and no I didn't die because their skills weren't very good.
Carth Jared Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:58:00 - [70] Originally by: Hellraiza666 CARTH \o/ lets go hunt us some ASCN You mean you didnt kill em all already? You're slacking mate :p

Lenore el'Draes	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:58:00 - [71] Originally by: Ikvar This happened because two ASCN members shot at me in Delve, and no I didn't die because their skills weren't very good. Oh noes, someone shot at you. Those damn griefers! Will they never leave us non-combat pilots alone?
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:59:00 - [72] Originally by: Lenore el'Draes Originally by: Ikvar This happened because two ASCN members shot at me in Delve, and no I didn't die because their skills weren't very good. Oh noes, someone shot at you. Those damn griefers! Will they never leave us non-combat pilots alone? Uh, guys who said they wouldn't shoot us shooting us in our friendly space? Yes it's very oh noes, go get moderated you alt.
Murphy Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:59:00 - [73] Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about.
Serret Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:59:00 - [74] Originally by: pringprang Nobody is going to believe you're joining in because one of your pilots got shot at. I'm not saying it didn't happen but you had your cards ready and were waiting to lay down your aces. Lets see what the future holds because we're looking for the royal flush. Translation: "MC will come sack our villages eventually, so let's just shoot them now so that they can get it over with." -- <Deathwing> just say Amarr pwn cause DW is Amarr
hantwo S.A.S	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:59:00 - [75] Originally by: Ikvar This happened because two ASCN members shot at me in Delve, and no I didn't die because their skills weren't very good. dummy pram >>>>>>>>
Shinjuro Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:00:00 - [76] Originally by: Muthsera LMAO.... Like MC whould ever keep out of this fight. Man grow some balls Seleene. Just say it like it is. You just needed a convinient excuse to get in on the action. No shame in admitting that. QFT.. But in there defence.. did ASCN actually think that by not engaging MC outside of their space they wouldn't enter into the dispute? Alts rule the bizzy.
Kuang V I R I I Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:00:00 - [77] If fighting BOB was not enough CDC Forums
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:01:00 - [78] Originally by: Kozak Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's *****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. I don't believe we've declared war here, also I don't think we had anything to do with BoB's last FIX war? Maybe we're in Fountain? Nope. Last one I remember was us shooting Goons, and that was on contract, Hugh said so, but re-reading your post you seem upset? Take it easy, listen to classical music, drink a nice cup of tea and have some fancy cakes.
Elexi Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:02:00 - [79] Originally by: hantwo Originally by: Ikvar This happened because two ASCN members shot at me in Delve, and no I didn't die because their skills weren't very good. dummy pram >>>>>>>> So 2 pilots shoot at members of SAS.. you just ignore them and dont shoot them in future? if people put their tin hats away for a minute. Anyone who shoots mc out of contract will be set to -10.. i mean anyone. Unless they can solve it diplomatically and i'm fairly sure cyvok setting mc to 0.0 with a big public post made that diplomatic solution a no go. Ascn knew mc lived in period basis, they set them to 0.0 so this whole problem stems there.
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:02:00 - [80] Originally by: Murphy Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about. It was 2 ASCN pilots, and they didn't manage to kill anyone. however a bunch of torps tells us the intent was there. Max --------------------

hantwo S.A.S	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:03:00 - [81] Originally by: Seleene MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. why didn't you just title this post "MC spreads em for BoB and takes it up the Oh Yeeeeaaaaaaaa"
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:03:00 - [82] Originally by: Murphy Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about. Try reading what Sel and Ikvar just posted then come back and post again. Oh and this isn't the first time you shot one of us only last week an Axe pilot shot at an MC member when we were meant to be blue.
Coranor Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:03:00 - [83] Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. You're not very bitter at all are you. Did someone kick your puppy? --------------
Coahim Madden eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:05:00 - [84] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Kozak Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's ****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. I don't believe we've declared war here, also I don't think we had anything to do with BoB's last FIX war? Maybe we're in Fountain? Nope. Last one I remember was us shooting Goons, and that was on contract, Hugh said so, but re-reading your post you seem upset? Take it easy, listen to classical music, drink a nice cup of tea and have some fancy cakes. So you're saying seleene didn't have to post anything? because there is no war? He could have used the pm function as one of your members so eloquently stated. ------- Theres 2 kinds of people in the world.* 1. Those that need closure
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:07:00 - [85] Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Kozak Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's *****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. I don't believe we've declared war here, also I don't think we had anything to do with BoB's last FIX war? Maybe we're in Fountain? Nope. Last one I remember was us shooting Goons, and that was on contract, Hugh said so, but re-reading your post you seem upset? Take it easy, listen to classical music, drink a nice cup of tea and have some fancy cakes. So you're saying seleene didn't have to post anything? because there is no war? He could have used the pm function as one of your members so eloquently stated. Same could be said for your alliance leader could it not?
Toppar Wear Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:07:00 - [86] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Murphy Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about. Try reading what Sel and Ikvar just posted then come back and post again. Oh and this isn't the first time you shot one of us only last week an Axe pilot shot at an MC member when we were meant to be blue. You should do that also , Ikvar said ASCN with isn¦t AXE but what ever gets u going
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:07:00 - [87] Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Kozak Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's *****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. I don't believe we've declared war here, also I don't think we had anything to do with BoB's last FIX war? Maybe we're in Fountain? Nope. Last one I remember was us shooting Goons, and that was on contract, Hugh said so, but re-reading your post you seem upset? Take it easy, listen to classical music, drink a nice cup of tea and have some fancy cakes. So you're saying seleene didn't have to post anything? because there is no war? He could have used the pm function as one of your members so eloquently stated. The IRONY of this post and it's wording is completely lost on you, isn't it?
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:08:00 - [88] Originally by: Coahim Madden So you're saying seleene didn't have to post anything? because there is no war? He could have used the pm function as one of your members so eloquently stated. No, I was just pointing out the weakness in Kozak's tinfoil hattery.
Coahim Madden eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:08:00 - [89] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Kozak Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's ****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. I don't believe we've declared war here, also I don't think we had anything to do with BoB's last FIX war? Maybe we're in Fountain? Nope. Last one I remember was us shooting Goons, and that was on contract, Hugh said so, but re-reading your post you seem upset? Take it easy, listen to classical music, drink a nice cup of tea and have some fancy cakes. So you're saying seleene didn't have to post anything? because there is no war? He could have used the pm function as one of your members so eloquently stated. The IRONY of this post and it's wording is completely lost on you, isn't it? Hmmm so if cyvok does it, hes a bad bad man, but seleene is just giving out info? ------- Theres 2 kinds of people in the world.* 1. Those that need closure
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:09:00 - [90] Edited by: ParMizaN on 05/10/2006 22:09:10 Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. Uh what? Are you delusional? Normally your arguments are at least based on a modicum of sense but wildly flailing accusations like that won't get you anywhere. Proof or stfu. sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris Pink is overrated, yellow is the new pink - Xorus XORUS!!1 HEATHEN KILLKILLKILLKILLKILL - Immy

Ryle Caldari Righteous-Indignation	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:11:00 - [91] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Lenore el'Draes Originally by: Ikvar This happened because two ASCN members shot at me in Delve, and no I didn't die because their skills weren't very good. Oh noes, someone shot at you. Those damn griefers! Will they never leave us non-combat pilots alone? Uh, guys who said they wouldn't shoot us shooting us in our friendly space? Yes it's very oh noes, go get moderated you alt. Wait, I'm confused. See, normally when two large entities have an agreement not to shoot each other, and a few lower-down pilots get in a tangle, the people way up the tree talk about it and work it out. However, this just screams "we're looking for an excuse to assist BoB." As I said in my previous post (albeit sarcasticly), this really doesn't come as any surprise to anyone, and that's why you're getting the responses you're getting. ------------------------------- -If you're going through Hell... Keep going.-
Raivotar Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:11:00 - [92] Originally by: Susa Ou If a mercenary alliance seeking moral justifications to fight was not interesting enough, considering the whole situation and the many predictions that MC would fight against ASCN for various and sometimes obvious reasons. So please, quit with the justification and march against ASCN. The only contingent factor in this war, the hopes that MC would show some independence has ended (to everyones suprise). So lets get this war over so the rest of us can see how the future looks. We all knew how it would play out, so the propaganda is meaningless. Anyone who actually belives it already did. See, most of us don't care who wins or loses, the drama is the real show. Yea. ALT newsweek tells it. ------------------------------------------------ I'm scissors. Nerf rocks. Paper is fine.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:12:00 - [93] Originally by: Coahim Madden Hmmm so if cyvok does it, hes a bad bad man, but seleene is just giving out info? Seleene's a bad bad lady, but she's pretty so gets away with much more.
Murphy Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:12:00 - [94] Originally by: Seleene I will say this one last time - until Hugh says we're on contract, this is just a simple standings notification. We felt making it public would be the best way to inform ASCN & AXE so that there would be no confusion. Had Cyvok not made his annoucement the other day based off of intel that was beyond faulty, then maybe this would not have happened. I'm not especially happy about this, but in this case I had to honor the wishes of my alliance and had little choice in the matter. Feel free to spin away. You said this is only a standing change, does that mean you're going to stay out of our space or are you going to be doing raids?
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:13:00 - [95] Lol, you're being setup. BoB has so many spies in ASCN they probably sent a few to provoke MC to get some help. God knows they need it. And an alliance using TS spies and forum spies is really not beyond setting up an incident I bet.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:13:00 - [96] Originally by: Murphy Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Murphy Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about. Try reading what Sel and Ikvar just posted then come back and post again. Oh and this isn't the first time you shot one of us only last week an Axe pilot shot at an MC member when we were meant to be blue. Maybe they posted while I was making my post? and do you actually have a name of the axe pilot who shot at you last week? Yes Yes I do his name is Da'Kor.
Shinjuro Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:13:00 - [97] Originally by: hantwo Originally by: Seleene MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. why didn't you just title this post "MC spreads em for BoB and takes it up the Oh Yeeeeaaaaaaaa" LOLOLOL.. That sir was THE best true forum post of the wee..mont...yea.. EVER! Alts rule the bizzy.
Coahim Madden eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:14:00 - [98] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Coahim Madden Hmmm so if cyvok does it, hes a bad bad man, but seleene is just giving out info? Seleene's a bad bad lady, but she's pretty so gets away with much more. Aha, I will have to start dressing up I guess this weekend, will that get me off primary list? ------- Theres 2 kinds of people in the world. 1. Those that need closure
Velsharoon Gallente Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:15:00 - [99] Edited by: Velsharoon on 05/10/2006 22:15:35 You guys derriding the MC are muppets, what would you do in their situation, when its been stated MC will not be hunted down then ASCN actually goes into Delve and shoots MC, even when the MC wouldnt have engaged Now it could have been messy if MC was flying along side a bob, say sharing part of the journey or something. But from what we can see this was a solo MC pilot either in Delve travelling or in MC claimed space. Either way they chose to attack, so there was a standings change? Is it me or is the average IQ of forum dwellers not improving despite the alt ban
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:15:00 - [100] Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Kozak Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's *****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. I don't believe we've declared war here, also I don't think we had anything to do with BoB's last FIX war? Maybe we're in Fountain? Nope. Last one I remember was us shooting Goons, and that was on contract, Hugh said so, but re-reading your post you seem upset? Take it easy, listen to classical music, drink a nice cup of tea and have some fancy cakes. So you're saying seleene didn't have to post anything? because there is no war? He could have used the pm function as one of your members so eloquently stated. The IRONY of this post and it's wording is completely lost on you, isn't it? Hmmm so if cyvok does it, hes a bad bad man, but seleene is just giving out info? Look up the words "irony" and "parody" when you get a moment. Cheers.

Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:16:00 - [101] gee.. I can barely contain myself here... some of you people clearly disengage your brains when you head over to the forums... Facts: 1. Cyvok set FIX and MC to 0.0, which was pretty much the igniting spark for the BoB vs ASCN war. 2. ASCN posted repeatedly that the 0.0 was pre-emptive as they expected to get attacked by both FIX and MC at some point. now that MC has been shot by ASCN pilots outside of ASCN space, MC is doing what any normal entity would do and award a -10 standing. The fact that Seleene, chose to do it so publicly is probably as payback for Cyvok¦s original 0.0 standing change which also done publicly. Furthermore, Seleene has said that MC won¦t even be actively attacking ASCN in their space... they might if they get bored but not atm. So what this thread is about is effectivley exchanging one slap in the face for another.. but not a whole lot has changed. Not even FIX is taking part in the BoB vs ASCN war, as Avernus has stated on the map thread. Now lets all put the tinfoil hats away.. and maybe post stuff that makes sense....I know its hard but we can try no?
Coahim Madden eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:16:00 - [102] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Coahim Madden Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Kozak Meh, Just another bandwagoner and another example of MC being BoB's ****es. I have not seen a single BoB conflict that did no include MC on some level. I don't believe we've declared war here, also I don't think we had anything to do with BoB's last FIX war? Maybe we're in Fountain? Nope. Last one I remember was us shooting Goons, and that was on contract, Hugh said so, but re-reading your post you seem upset? Take it easy, listen to classical music, drink a nice cup of tea and have some fancy cakes. So you're saying seleene didn't have to post anything? because there is no war? He could have used the pm function as one of your members so eloquently stated. The IRONY of this post and it's wording is completely lost on you, isn't it? Hmmm so if cyvok does it, hes a bad bad man, but seleene is just giving out info? Look up the words "irony" and "parody" when you get a moment. Cheers. Looking up stuff is boring... ------- Theres 2 kinds of people in the world.* 1. Those that need closure
Lo3d3R Implant Liberation Front Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:17:00 - [103] Edited by: Lo3d3R on 05/10/2006 22:18:44 Erase the Xetic scum from the map !!! (btw: Foyle = Cyvok) ___________________ Eating Chopped Bear:
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:18:00 - [104] Originally by: Malachon Draco Lol, you're being setup. BoB has so many spies in ASCN they probably sent a few to provoke MC to get some help. God knows they need it. And an alliance using TS spies and forum spies is really not beyond setting up an incident I bet.
Elexi Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:19:00 - [105] Originally by: Malachon Draco Lol, you're being setup. BoB has so many spies in ASCN they probably sent a few to provoke MC to get some help. God knows they need it. And an alliance using TS spies and forum spies is really not beyond setting up an incident I bet. I guess you better kick the guys who shot at the mc.. cos they must be spies lol
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:19:00 - [106] Originally by: Murphy Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about. http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=details&id=21897 Which happened after I jumped into 36N, this guy and some LV were camping the gate (we got LV at blue and they lol'd as we put this guy down): ------------------------------------------------------------ Gamelog Listener: Eleese Session started: 2006.09.26 20:07:28 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2006.09.26 20:07:51 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) lightly hits you, doing 3.9 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:51 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) lightly hits you, doing 3.8 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) lightly hits you, doing 4.1 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 7.5 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:56 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) barely scratches you, causing 3.3 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Piranha Light Missile belonging to Zizoo hits you, doing 35.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Piranha Light Missile belonging to Zizoo hits you, doing 35.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) aims well at you, inflicting 7.0 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:07:59 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 8.1 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:00 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) lightly hits you, doing 3.8 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) aims well at you, inflicting 6.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 8.3 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:05 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) barely scratches you, causing 3.5 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:05 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) aims well at you, inflicting 6.5 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:08 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 8.4 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:08 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 8.4 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:09 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Piranha Light Missile belonging to Zizoo hits you, doing 35.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:09 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Piranha Light Missile belonging to Zizoo hits you, doing 35.2 damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:11 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II misses Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) completely. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:11 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II misses Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) completely. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:11 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II glances off Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin), causing no real damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:15 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II misses Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) completely. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:16 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II misses Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin) completely. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:16 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II glances off Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin), causing no real damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:20 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun II glances off Zizoo [NOQ]<AXE>'Leave at POS '(Merlin), causing no real damage. [ 2006.09.26 20:08:21 ] (combat - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Tadamitsu Solar Storm Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:20:00 - [107] Its sad that this has occurred, but if the actions of two people can predicate a -10 change do what you need. note to self, cut off Cordys access Solar Storm CEO Want to join the storm?
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:20:00 - [108] well thats supprizing.. . not.. ->My Vids<-
Josiah Bartlet Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:20:00 - [109] Originally by: Andy Pipkin No, no, the real reason is of course BoB hired the MC to make a forum post so they had a new post to spam. Can the OBVIOUS ASCN alts please not post with npc corporation alts? --- SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR
Zhalakin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:21:00 - [110] Originally by: Orange Species I sense blood being spilt on the shire oh god sauron+MC and BoB.. poor hobbits

Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:21:00 - [111] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Which happened after I jumped into 36N, this guy and some LV were camping the gate (we got LV at blue and they lol'd as we put this guy down): Aye but to be fair we took a crow in payment. That one was just a misunderstanding on Zizoo's part I think.
LoxyRider Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:21:00 - [112] Why did MC set ASCN/AXE to -10? A MC pilot was shot at by an ASCN pilot, he was not killed but aggresion is enough, I assume all ASCN pilots are able to read the ally tab on their overview. As for AXE they are closely linked to ASCN so this simply applys to them as well. What does -10 mean? MC does not shoot neutrals anywhere in Eve, -10 standings is set for unfriendly corps/alliances and pirates. MC are free to fire on these corps/alliances at any point and may be seen raiding them when off contract. So is MC now invading ASCN? No, -10 is just -10, we have not at this time been contracted against ASCN and we will not be invading or attacking them beyond small raids if our pilots so wish. I must however say this is the current situation, the MC are ready to deploy to any war zone at any time for the right fee. This is clearly an excuse for war! Last week a MC carrier jumped through Stain from Period Basis traveling to our contract area at the time of Providence. ASCN decided this was us working with BOB to place 50 capital ships in jump range of their systems and set the MC to 0.0 standing revoking our previous agreements for nothing. Today an ASCN pilot opened fire on a MC pilot, in combination with the insult of the previous week's announcment from Cyvok our standings change seems fairly resonable. THANKYOUCOMEAGAIN!
hitech redneck Digital Mind Crimes	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:22:00 - [113] No matter what mc post we all knew it was a matter of time before bob brought thier slaves into this. As it was said mc was tied up with another project they had. It done so bo can get the help they need to fight the industrial allienc
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:25:00 - [114] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Which happened after I jumped into 36N, this guy and some LV were camping the gate (we got LV at blue and they lol'd as we put this guy down): Aye but to be fair we took a crow in payment. That one was just a misunderstanding on Zizoo's part I think. True, then again this does show that some AXE/ASCN pilots do have a problem understanding standings or need to sort their overview setttings a wee bit :-p - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Zhalakin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:26:00 - [115] Originally by: hitech redneck No matter what mc post we all knew it was a matter of time before bob brought thier slaves into this. As it was said mc was tied up with another project they had. It done so bo can get the help they need to fight the industrial allienc You of all ppl must know that MC are BoB alts *WTS: clueBEST CLUE EVER***
CYVOK Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:26:00 - [116] Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK-
Havras the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:27:00 - [117] Hmm.. so.. two pilots an Alliance makes eh? Smooth.. very diplomatic way to handle it. As to why it happened... umm.. someone had a very good point. We know BOB has spies in our alliance... this is fact, we won't go into why they need spies to beat "lousy PVPers". It wouldn't be to much of a stretch that they had two of them head on out to start trouble wherever they could for ASCN. Seleene, if you didn't stop and think about that possibility, and contact ASCN HC or the person's CEO to see what happened, then it really does look like you were looking for any excuse. (And no, this isn't a flame)
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:29:00 - [118] Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- How does it feel to have your paranoid delusions manifest themselves in your own pilots?
LoxyRider Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:29:00 - [119] Originally by: Havras Hmm.. so.. two pilots an Alliance makes eh? Smooth.. very diplomatic way to handle it. As to why it happened... umm.. someone had a very good point. We know BOB has spies in our alliance... this is fact, we won't go into why they need spies to beat "lousy PVPers". It wouldn't be to much of a stretch that they had two of them head on out to start trouble wherever they could for ASCN. Seleene, if you didn't stop and think about that possibility, and contact ASCN HC or the person's CEO to see what happened, then it really does look like you were looking for any excuse. (And no, this isn't a flame) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=401516
Gothikia Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:30:00 - [120] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- How does it feel to have your paranoid delusions manifest themselves in your own pilots? rofl

Slender Brenda Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:30:00 - [121] Originally by: Malachon Draco Lol, you're being setup. BoB has so many spies in ASCN they probably sent a few to provoke MC to get some help. God knows they need it. And an alliance using TS spies and forum spies is really not beyond setting up an incident I bet. I think i killed bob alt before . The evil one that shoot at MC later
John McCreedy Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:31:00 - [122] Seleene - Noted and riciprocated. Thank you for the advanced warning. Make a Difference
APEXrevived Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:31:00 - [123] Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- gotta love this game I thought since this game is called Eve that I'd play a female character. Is that a good enough excuse for a guy?
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:34:00 - [124] Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- Sorry but do you understand what we were doing in 9UY? It wasnt a bunch of ten a penny pirates camping a gate, It was a large group of well equiped and experienced PVPer's with cap ships and POS's.
Carth Jared Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:34:00 - [125] Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- "Just" pirates
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:35:00 - [126] Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. You should give MC more credit than that. They have integrity by the bucketload. This would not have been done without a very good reason.
Blind Date	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:36:00 - [127] Chicken a La McDonald Ingredients for Chicken A La Mcdonald * 1 cup cold cooked chicken, cut in strips * 3 cold boiled potatoes, cut in one-third inch slices * 1 truffle cut in strips * 3 tablespoons butter * 3 tablespoons flour * 1+ cups scalded milk * Salt * Pepper Instructions 1. Make a sauce of butter, flour, and milk. 2. Add chicken, potatoes, and truffle, and, as soon as heated, add seasoning. Enjoy!
Murphy Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:37:00 - [128] So I check the Mc killboard for the past 5 days and did not see any Mc getting killed by MC. But then people start screaming that axe pilots shot them a week ago. If you getting shot by an axe pilot was such a devastating thing, why did it take you a week to say something about it? Why didn't anybody message me or Steel when it happened asking what's up and try to resolve the issue? Why is it only after Seleene makes the post is it now an end of the universe event?
KSUDruid Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:29:00 - [129] Originally by: VonKaplanek III Yunno druid i used to have respect for you, but now i can plainly see that you are just a troll. Takes a real man to insult another players name. Go You!! Childish insults and flamage 4tl. You used to respect me? HAH! Funny, cause I never respected you. Then again, No one in Impass liked CoRM. What was the real reason you had to move to south feyth? Perhaps cause everyone that lived in Impass were ready to kill your entire corp cause it was full of a bunch of greedy, selfish carebears? Then again, you found good company in the south amongst the likes of Syncore and EDF. Stupidity, Delusions and Greed, all in one little geographic area. What's not to love? My beef with Ridarri is cause of a threat he made against all the players in EVE. I'm sure he needs you hanging on his coattails defending him.. not.. However, 18 months ago when my boys fought to save your home, you were coattail hangers too. That must sting, doesn't it? -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre
Leo McGarry Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:30:00 - [130] I can't help but think that all these threads just go around and around in circles? Here's Stone Cold Steve Austin giving a demonstration:

Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:30:00 - [131] Originally by: Mad Scientist101 also the dramatic nature of your post also makes your posture seem more agressive than it is, if your intention is to only defend yourself. lol.. did you even read the original post... Originally by: Seleene Thread Title: Respectful message to ASCN & AXE "MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why." .. there is not an aggressive word in sight.. now compare it to Cyvok's message last week : Originally by: Cyvok Respectful message to MC & FIX "ASCN & AXE are setting you both to 0.0, You know why." .. do you geddit now? hmmm... its called tit for tat...
spoon2 Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:34:00 - [132] Originally by: Velsharoon Edited by: Velsharoon on 05/10/2006 22:15:35 Is it me or is the average IQ of forum dwellers not improving despite the alt ban Superb lol
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:35:00 - [133] Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight.. Proof of this statement plz. Unless you heard it once from someone who heard something from someone else whn really really knew, but couldn't tell you cos then their sister's pet bunny would have to be boiled. Finger pointing and wild accusations does not constitute factual history. Originally by: Riddari Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. plz refer to the 265416541654873554 other threads regarding MC's tenureship over a constellation in Period Basis, not like it's an Area 51 style sekrit now. I'm guessing that if you shot an MC pilot, they'll re-pay in kind. Much as we would .... but then again, we attacked you so we kind of expect that. I like this thread. Definatley more in the vein of things than Darth Emo's attempt to rattle his toys for attention. Keep up the good work. Forum warriors i salute you! Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:38:00 - [134] Originally by: Mad Scientist101 Originally by: Sivona Edited by: Sivona on 05/10/2006 23:12:30 Originally by: Mad Scientist101 Normally if someone in alliance shoots someone they are not supposed to, both parties just hey it was a mistake lets not let it happen again, and said pilots get a ticking off. If someone in an alliance even blows up someone they are not supposed to, then payment is made to refund all losses. But oh no, not MC, someone fires a shot them thats it, no diplomatic contact whatsoever, makes me laugh to be honest. But then again MC have always been hotheads anyone remember the smash incident? This seems to assume its the first incident and that ASCN hadn't stated in their forums that they intend to BBQ any MC they find outside their space as well as inside it. This is only defending ourselves and not a declaration of war, it could be sorted out if cyvok wasn't so pigheaded. So your saying that you have been shot at more than once by ASCN before this post was made? Because from all the posts made by you MC in this thread it seems this was an isolated incident, also the dramatic nature of your post also makes your posture seem more agressive than it is, if your intention is to only defend yourself. Its not the only incident and the lines taken on their forums shows that it will repeatedly occur. The line taken is in return for the notification we got of cyvok's paranoia
Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:39:00 - [135] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Mad Scientist101 also the dramatic nature of your post also makes your posture seem more agressive than it is, if your intention is to only defend yourself. lol.. did you even read the original post... Originally by: Seleene Thread Title: Respectful message to ASCN & AXE "MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why." .. there is not an aggressive word in sight.. now compare it to Cyvok's message last week : Originally by: Cyvok Respectful message to MC & FIX "ASCN & AXE are setting you both to 0.0, You know why." .. do you geddit now? hmmm... its called tit for tat... Please take off your rose tinted spectacles, Cyvoks post was paranoia, Seelene's was revenge. But the point is, with the connections between BOB and MC and the current BOB ASCN war, this post was always going to be taken as an aggresive statement and as if MC are looking for an excuse to go on the offensive against ASCN to help BOB.
Frools No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:45:00 - [136] Edited by: Frools on 05/10/2006 23:51:54 Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Grimster Aye but to be fair we took a crow in payment. That one was just a misunderstanding on Zizoo's part I think. True, then again this does show that some AXE/ASCN pilots do have a problem understanding standings or need to sort their overview setttings a wee bit :-p actually you guys showed neutral to us at that point (not sure why, should've been set +2.5) and as we operate nbsi zizoo shot at a valid target (bit silly tho, he was only in a merlin ) we nearly shot at your same gang later in stain cos you still showed neutral, fortunately we'd been told not to edit: btw, Hans Roaming primary
BoinKlasik Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:46:00 - [137] sigh. <3 Murphy&Goth /me stabs eyes out for the rest of the **** going down. doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Susan DePriest Gallente Intergalactic Cargo Exporters	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:49:00 - [138] So is there any news in this thread, or is it just fluff? Tell us something surprising for a change.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:51:00 - [139] Originally by: Mad Scientist101 But the point is, with the connections between BOB and MC and the current BOB ASCN war, this post was always going to be taken as an aggresive statement and as if MC are looking for an excuse to go on the offensive against ASCN to help BOB. .. well I'm sure MC like to have a little bit of fun with teh forums too..... but Seleene then categorically stated that they wont attack ASCN unless her wallet goes blinkety blink..... So you take the tinfoil hat off now... besides... I can think of a hundred more interesting conspiracy theories than the ones that are consistently peddled here..... Hows this for starters... Molle and Cyvok actually got together on TS one day and said.. Molle : Hey Cyvok Cyvok : Hey Molly Molle : .. EVE is pretty dull atm huh... Cyvok : .. yup sure is... Molle : .. you know why don't we start a war.. it would light up the forums and give CCP a good reason to investigate the state of the servers.. Cyvok : wow that sounds good... who is fighting? Molle : .. well it would be BoB vs ASCN ^^ Cyvok : ... oh... Molle : .. you know you could pull a Xetic and set FIX and MC to neutral.... pre-emptively like.. Cyvok : no way man.. been there, bought the t-shirt... Molle : .. comeon.. you know you want to... Cyvok : Why don't we like hit the north or something... Molle : .. k look, tell you what we'll play rocks, scissors stones, if you win we hit the north, if I win we do BoB vs ASCN and you start it off with a standings post... deal? Cyvok : hmmf.. kk deal ---papers, scissors, stones... Cyvok : Dammit... i guess I'll head over to the forums then.... :/ Molle : .. cool beans man cyas later...
Trooper B99 Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:51:00 - [140] Originally by: Susan DePriest So is there any news in this thread, or is it just fluff? Tell us something surprising for a change. We're NOT going to war with ASCN and AXE over this, merely saying we'll shoot them. Seems to be surprising to ALOT of people if you ask me. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106

Vladimir Yuchenko Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:53:00 - [141] Well last time I checked no one in ASCN had ever fired a shot in anger. In fact I believe they only equip their ships with Miner II's. And no I won't fight them, I won't even undock. In fact I'm shaking in my boots right now sitting here in my warm station drinking some brandy and listening to ASCN radio. I thought you knew all I ever do was forum troll.
Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.05 23:54:00 - [142] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Mad Scientist101 But the point is, with the connections between BOB and MC and the current BOB ASCN war, this post was always going to be taken as an aggresive statement and as if MC are looking for an excuse to go on the offensive against ASCN to help BOB. .. well I'm sure MC like to have a little bit of fun with teh forums too..... but Seleene then categorically stated that they wont attack ASCN unless her wallet goes blinkety blink..... So you take the tinfoil hat off now Can you please point out to me where I said MC were going to attack ASCN without a contract?
Kozak Caldari Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:00:00 - [143] The reason a lot of people think MC is going to war against ASCN and AXE is because of all the orgazmic replys from BoB members in this thread welcoming MC to the war. Judging from MC's history with BoB, is it not logical that almost everyone in EvE would think that was the case?
Farham Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:04:00 - [144] Essentially, BOB is ready to make its major move and couldn't have ASCN pilots camping their stations and having good success against their industrial efforts back home. With MC actively shooting ASCN/AXE pilots in Delve and Period Basis (plus the ways in to that space, which is the real key benefit of this announcement for BoB) they now how "defense" which has been lacking over the past few days. We might not see 100 capital ships with the MC logo down south (at least not yet :) ) but now BoB can "feel safe" with their backsides covered. Either way, good luck all...
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:05:00 - [145] Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- Hobbits got to love their "fearless" leader who gives his best to escalate the situation even further when **** hits the fan. Is it THAT nice when you can blame your own demise on the odds instead of your own incompetence later?!? Anyone up for a bet who will make off with the titan when ASCN has been wiped off the map? --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Logan Williams Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:06:00 - [146] This kind of reminds me of similar stuff a few weeks ago when a trigger happy ASCN group kept coming to shoot us. One day, we stand up for ourselves and ASCN "sets us -10". Of course, I heard that a couple of our pilots took pok-shots at MC and we're "-" to them too. Of course, we do have more class than to cry about MC being BoB alts. Tinfoil hats are so.....three months ago.
Leo McGarry Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:06:00 - [147] Originally by: Farham Essentially, BOB is ready to make its major move and couldn't have ASCN pilots camping their stations and having good success against their industrial efforts back home. With MC actively shooting ASCN/AXE pilots in Delve and Period Basis (plus the ways in to that space, which is the real key benefit of this announcement for BoB) they now how "defense" which has been lacking over the past few days. We might not see 100 capital ships with the MC logo down south (at least not yet :) ) but now BoB can "feel safe" with their backsides covered. Either way, good luck all... We've been rumbled!
Josiah Bartlet Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:15:00 - [148] Edited by: Josiah Bartlet on 06/10/2006 00:17:01 Originally by: Kozak The reason a lot of people think MC is going to war against ASCN and AXE is because of all the orgazmic replys from BoB members in this thread welcoming MC to the war. Judging from MC's history with BoB, is it not logical that almost everyone in EvE would think that was the case? zzzzz I don't know anyone in DICE or BOB for that matter that want anyone else fighting you. We want you all to yourselves. On a side note, its nice to see that in addition to cookies, the ASCN factories are now supplying Koolaid for their pilots. By the looks of it, many in ASCN have consumed copious quantites of said Koolaid. Could ASNC clairify the acuracy of the rumors that Cyvok has petitioned to have his name officially changed to Jim Jones?
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:32:00 - [149]
laotse	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:34:00 - [150] its sad that the big bob need to have help from the mc jesus cant you do any thing on your own ? seleene you didnt pay all for your litle piece of space yet :) 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg[/img] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes

Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:37:00 - [151] the antiBoB poster are getting mroe and more pathetic... why dont u try to read the posts, take some time to think about them and post ur opinion. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Carebear Stare D.i.l.l.i.g.a.f	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:40:00 - [152] Did anybody ever notice that if anybody else posts a thread and it degrades into general trolling and flameage it gets locked.... but if its a thread put together by MC or BoB it turns into 7 pages of general crap and personal insults but no lockeage. (that would be a request that this general steaming pile of a thread be locked.)
Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:42:00 - [153] Interesting reading!!!
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:43:00 - [154] Locked....? Comeon! Don't tell me you can't see the entertainment value going on here?!?! Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
laotse	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:47:00 - [155] mc just give up there neutralety a shame because after this nobody will ever trust then again 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg[/img] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 00:55:00 - [156] Originally by: Carebear Stare Did anybody ever notice that if anybody else posts a thread and it degrades into general trolling and flameage it gets locked.... but if its a thread put together by MC or BoB it turns into 7 pages of general crap and personal insults but no lockeage. (that would be a request that this general steaming pile of a thread be locked.) Since we went to war this forum has been interesting again. If that makes us mods then I'm proud to be Eris.
Carebear Stare D.i.l.l.i.g.a.f	Posted - 2006.10.06 01:02:00 - [157] Originally by: Louisa Torres Since we went to war this forum has been interesting again. If that makes us mods then I'm proud to be Eris. if you say so
Karunel Nuevos Horizontes O X I D E	Posted - 2006.10.06 01:09:00 - [158] Quote: Since we went to war this forum has been interesting again. You mean, it's a sea of snip one has to go through with the faint hope of finding some info about what the current state of affairs is, hoping that reading the amount of uninformed and childish crap that comes off from most posters fingers, from all sides, doesn't make one's IQ drop below the -100 level? If so, absolutely agreed. Please don't avoid the profanity filter - Serathu ([email protected])

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Worry Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 01:20:00 - [160] They shall drown in lakes of blood.

Harlequinn Caldari Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 01:33:00 - [161] Originally by: KSUDruid Originally by: VonKaplanek III Yunno druid i used to have respect for you, but now i can plainly see that you are just a troll. Takes a real man to insult another players name. Go You!! Childish insults and flamage 4tl. You used to respect me? HAH! Funny, cause I never respected you. Then again, No one in Impass liked CoRM. What was the real reason you had to move to south feyth? Perhaps cause everyone that lived in Impass were ready to kill your entire corp cause it was full of a bunch of greedy, selfish carebears? Then again, you found good company in the south amongst the likes of Syncore and EDF. Stupidity, Delusions and Greed, all in one little geographic area. What's not to love? My beef with Ridarri is cause of a threat he made against all the players in EVE. I'm sure he needs you hanging on his coattails defending him.. not.. However, 18 months ago when my boys fought to save your home, you were coattail hangers too. That must sting, doesn't it? Got bitter? --Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none.--
Kozak Caldari Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 01:37:00 - [162] Originally by: Worry They shall drown in lakes of blood. You got Seleene posting that MC is not going to war with ASCN, yet we got MC tools like this one above posting otherwise.
Trina Tron Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 01:38:00 - [163] Edited by: Trina Tron on 06/10/2006 01:39:01 Originally by: Kozak Originally by: Worry They shall drown in lakes of blood. You got Seleene posting that MC is not going to war with ASCN, yet we got MC tools like this one above posting otherwise. Could it be becuse if we see you will shoot you No that could never be it ----------------------------------- Originally by: Santiago Cortes Locked Begging is not allowed or appreciated on the forums. Whining remains perfectly acceptable.
Cheechako Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 01:44:00 - [164] pew pew
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 01:47:00 - [165] Originally by: Kozak Originally by: Worry They shall drown in lakes of blood. You got Seleene posting that MC is not going to war with ASCN, yet we got MC tools like this one above posting otherwise. Remember. Tea, music, fancy cakes?.. <3
Droewa Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.06 01:54:00 - [166] you did'nt see me here.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.06 02:06:00 - [167] Am I completely missing something (which is entirely possible as i'm half asleep and this is a long thread), or is there a complete evasion of a diplomatic solution here? I don't see it mentioned. Now i'm not saying MC would have to seek a diplomatic route as they are a pvp entity, however due to the current situation it makes MC look trigger happy and subservient if no diplomatic route was sought. Was there any discourse between MC and ASCN before this was announced? Unless you simply didn't want any of course. You would have to be pretty damn moronic though, not to question the idea that such an event is simply an unbelievable coincidence. Though of course the only real evidence that MC is subservient to BoB, is if MC actively attack ASCN now. A standings change in itself doesnÆt effect ASCN at all, so people shouldn't draw conclusions from that alone. If MC hunt them down and blow them up however, it will carry more information. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
Don ZOLA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.06 02:48:00 - [168] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Murphy Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about. http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=details&id=21897 Which happened after I jumped into 36N, this guy and some LV were camping the gate (we got LV at blue and they lol'd as we put this guy down): can u get that ppl from LV to confirm that ? doesnt take much effort to get couple old months alt in a corp/alliance to use him laters for "bigger purposes". and if those LV ppl cant be found (ie not existing) whole story really falls in watter, cuz i really dont think anyone sane would attack 4 ships alone and he knows he cant kill any of them. and how come u needed 4 mins to kill his pod ? TDG Recruitment
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.10.06 02:55:00 - [169] Originally by: Weebear Lamest excuse for a war ever.... First didnt see them say they were declairing war. Second we war decced 3FA because two of there pilots laughed at one of Pepps jokes in local. Third you dont need an "excuse" to war dec someone CEO - Art of War
PleXD Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 02:57:00 - [170] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Mad Scientist101 But the point is, with the connections between BOB and MC and the current BOB ASCN war, this post was always going to be taken as an aggresive statement and as if MC are looking for an excuse to go on the offensive against ASCN to help BOB. .. well I'm sure MC like to have a little bit of fun with teh forums too..... but Seleene then categorically stated that they wont attack ASCN unless her wallet goes blinkety blink..... So you take the tinfoil hat off now... besides... I can think of a hundred more interesting conspiracy theories than the ones that are consistently peddled here..... Hows this for starters... Molle and Cyvok actually got together on TS one day and said.. Molle : Hey Cyvok Cyvok : Hey Molly Molle : .. EVE is pretty dull atm huh... Cyvok : .. yup sure is... Molle : .. you know why don't we start a war.. it would light up the forums and give CCP a good reason to investigate the state of the servers.. Cyvok : wow that sounds good... who is fighting? Molle : .. well it would be BoB vs ASCN ^^ Cyvok : ... oh... Molle : .. you know you could pull a Xetic and set FIX and MC to neutral.... pre-emptively like.. Cyvok : no way man.. been there, bought the t-shirt... Molle : .. comeon.. you know you want to... Cyvok : Why don't we like hit the north or something... Molle : .. k look, tell you what we'll play rocks, scissors stones, if you win we hit the north, if I win we do BoB vs ASCN and you start it off with a standings post... deal? Cyvok : hmmf.. kk deal ---papers, scissors, stones... Cyvok : Dammit... i guess I'll head over to the forums then.... :/ Molle : .. cool beans man cyas later... AH ha! now we know who one of the spies is!!! -------- Those Arn't the Roids we are looking for.

Krystian Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.06 03:00:00 - [171] Edited by: Krystian on 06/10/2006 03:02:12 I think people got worked up on this thread due to the 'timing' regardless of who started what and where. It co-exists very close to the weekend... tho as mighty as BoB is I dont think they would need to bring in MC to help would they? I'll let time and actions ingame dictate that and just prepare for the worse as always.
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.06 03:03:00 - [172] Originally by: Nebuli First didnt see them say they were declairing war. Second we war decced 3FA because two of there pilots laughed at one of Pepps jokes in local. Third you dont need an "excuse" to war dec someone Pepps tricked you. There was no joke. It was a complete setup. Tinfoil. King Tinfoil Hatter
Otto Torivus Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 03:05:00 - [173] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- Can someone say 'self fulfilling prophecy'... All prophecy is self fulfilling. With the nature of this war and how it started it was only a matter of time till some hot head fired a shot at the wrong target. If it had been an MC pilot the results would have been the same. Just a change of wording and the name of the poster would have been different. Such is fate. Time to kill a commie for Jesus
Great Guardian Minmatar Sturmgrenadier Inc	Posted - 2006.10.06 03:10:00 - [174] Edited by: Great Guardian on 06/10/2006 03:10:06 Originally by: Seleene MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. So pathetic.... MC = BoB we all know this. " I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah! Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments.... will
Ehxo Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 03:12:00 - [175] Originally by: Great Guardian Edited by: Great Guardian on 06/10/2006 03:10:06 Originally by: Seleene MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. So pathetic.... MC = BoB we all know this. how's SG -
War Bear Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 03:16:00 - [176] Originally by: Great Guardian Edited by: Great Guardian on 06/10/2006 03:10:06 Originally by: Seleene MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. So pathetic.... MC = BoB we all know this. No ... BoB is actively going after ASCN in their space. We're not touching ASCN space until we're under contract to do so and right now we're not. It's a standings setting, not a war dec. Got it? Good. No matter where you go, there you are.
Cheechako Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 03:47:00 - [177] Originally by: War Bear Originally by: Great Guardian Edited by: Great Guardian on 06/10/2006 03:10:06 Originally by: Seleene MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. So pathetic.... MC = BoB we all know this. No ... BoB is actively going after ASCN in their space. We're not touching ASCN space until we're under contract to do so and right now we're not. It's a standings setting, not a war dec. Got it? Good. What he said
Faith Rose Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 03:53:00 - [178] Ok everyone shut up, grab your guns and lets play. What every you end up doing MC have fun.
Trina Tron Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 04:08:00 - [179] Originally by: Faith Rose Ok everyone shut up, grab your guns and lets play. What every you end up doing MC have fun. Some ones siggy is going to be stolen! ----------------------------------- Originally by: Santiago Cortes Locked Begging is not allowed or appreciated on the forums. Whining remains perfectly acceptable.
Faith Rose Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 04:13:00 - [180] I'll turn you into a voodo doll if ya do and abuse ya often

Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 04:25:00 - [181] Originally by: Don ZOLA Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Murphy Edited by: Murphy on 05/10/2006 21:59:35 Well I sure don't see any lossmails on your killboard from axe and I've asked around axe and nobody has a clue what you're on about. http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=details&id=21897 Which happened after I jumped into 36N, this guy and some LV were camping the gate (we got LV at blue and they lol'd as we put this guy down): can u get that ppl from LV to confirm that ? doesnt take much effort to get couple old months alt in a corp/alliance to use him laters for "bigger purposes". and if those LV ppl cant be found (ie not existing) whole story really falls in watter, cuz i really dont think anyone sane would attack 4 ships alone and he knows he cant kill any of them. and how come u needed 4 mins to kill his pod ? I seemed as if he was camping the gate with those LV, the LV guys never fired a shot nor locked us. Took us a bit longer to kill the pod, because we only killed it when it showed up at another gate twice and didn't really move. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Fuji Cortega	Posted - 2006.10.06 04:29:00 - [182] Edited by: Fuji Cortega on 06/10/2006 04:29:43 uh ih
Wrok Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 04:30:00 - [183] MAN ASCN you ***ed seleene off now...Grabs his tin foil hat*
Frater Perdurabo The Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria	Posted - 2006.10.06 04:40:00 - [184] Originally by: Faith Rose I'll turn you into a voodo doll if ya do and abuse ya often I think he means by the mods its very nice, but looks a bit too big.
BlackSabbath Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.06 04:44:00 - [185] aaaa.. the MC!! bob's lap dogs, how high should I jump massa, how high? another way of bob having to say "they had no help in a war" ================================ "i am only here to **** you off"
Faith Rose Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 05:03:00 - [186] Originally by: Frater Perdurabo Originally by: Faith Rose I'll turn you into a voodo doll if ya do and abuse ya often I think he means by the mods its very nice, but looks a bit too big. I'd abuse them to but, i'm not sure if i might contract that jovian virus and reset the whole server to day one.
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 06:04:00 - [187] was'nt this a topic about MC and ascn?? Bobbits get a hard on cause they know that there not gonna win this war and they need help from MC. I find it funny that bob, the self proclaimed kings of pvp are so active in this thread encouraging and jumping through hoops at the thought of MC 'helping' them, instead of telling MC that thier help is not needed as bob is all powerful.. Dear BOB, if you are so great and powerful you wont be needing help will you now?? If you do hire/ask/arrange/manipulate help then thats gonna show everyone that you are incapable of defeating us. These views are my own and not representitive of my alliances
cordy Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 06:10:00 - [188] Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- Cyvok with all the respect i have left for you, you really dont have a clue.Your so paranoide you always where that you cant see the right from wrong with intell you get always been. All your so called intel is wrong as stated so many times we will not interfear unless contracted and we arent contracted against you. You told us that you wont be shooting us outside your borders, seleene did exactly the same with us. Yet one of your members shot an MC ship who burned its bridges now? some said it already the hauler incident rings any bells? Why did God create men before women? There's always a rough draft before the masterpiece
NeoTech Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 06:24:00 - [189] its about time the BoB slaves choose their side. Wasn't much of a surprise either :P CyA in BoB space ;)
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 06:28:00 - [190] BoB needs our help? Okay. The overreactions, assumptions and just plain absurdity of some of the posts in this thread seem to be the result of either panic or ignorance. Right now, this is a pro-active self-defense measure that can be reversed eventually if certain people would stop trying to enforce their version of the truth over the reality of the situation, which is: It's very simple - when you see a Hugh banner, that means we intend to attack ASCN or AXE on your own ground. Otherwise, stay away from us and we'll stay away from you. I've nothing further to say here. Cyvok, you can expect a personal email from me later today. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?

Sathana Caldari Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.06 06:56:00 - [191] Well, i know i shouldn't be responding to this topic, but then again I also know for a fact all the other axiom besides HC shouldn't be either... First of all, let me say that I respect MC the most out of most 0.0 entities besides axiom of course :) Honestly Selenes decision makes a ton of sense to me, because we have close relations with ASCN, so of course our status will change when ASCN's does, even if we haven't provoked them. I'm honestly tired of these circles that the forums have been going in, considering the fact that i rarely post ever. I wish the best of luck to both parties (meaning BoB and us (ascn/axe)) MC if i see ya in space outside of our territory, g'luck to you too I've fought many ppl as hostiles that are my friends, even my r/l bro, so i know not to take things seriously, its all in good fun Hopefully some of this makes sense considering that i'm a lil drunk :P but i'm tired of seeing all this crap spewed on the forums, even if its part of war To all sides, g'luck and have fun, hopefully i'll see ya on the field Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Ruah Piskonit Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.06 07:20:00 - [192] The title says 'respectful message to . . .', I find all this to be quite idiotic, Seleene was kind enough to be respecful and to inform the community of its sec. status changes. This was an honorable and proper thing to do. Let us all be respectful in kind.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.06 07:35:00 - [193] Seleene - I know it's a thread made to answer CYVOK's. But still. I don't want to be forced to post every Standing change about .-A-. Thanks in advance. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.06 07:37:00 - [194] I guess nothing unexpected here From Dusk till Dawn
zyphentits Sector 7	Posted - 2006.10.06 07:44:00 - [195] so how is the war going down in the south between ACSN and BOB where can we get updates... ---------------------------------------------
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 07:49:00 - [196] Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/10/2006 07:49:50 Originally by: zyphen** so how is the war going down in the south between ACSN and BOB where can we get updates... Stuff has been killed. No pos wars. Updates are available from our killboards. Now back to the OP and leave BoB out of this. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto**
Techtriz	Posted - 2006.10.06 08:00:00 - [197] So BoB reckon they couldn't do the job alone or what? If I were BoB leadership I'd be ****ed on MC for trying to steal credit on taking down the biggest industrial alliance in EVE.. Oh well, seen them take credit for something like that before
PleXD Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 08:03:00 - [198] I still have respect for MC as an allaince. Some of the members have lost the respect. I just think alot of people are talking the war seriously and anyone associated with BOB are the enemy now. There is not much to report reallyà Just a bunch of skirmishes, some lagged fights. Bob canÆt lock down all of ASCN space. So when bob is over there all the industrial might is working in another area seeding ships. And when move Bob move so does the ASCN pvpers and so does the industry. This could really really go on for yearsà. Certainly has boosted the number of people playing thats for sure. -------- Those Arn't the Roids we are looking for.
Josiah Bartlet Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 08:06:00 - [199] Originally by: Techtriz So BoB reckon they couldn't do the job alone or what? Yes, that is why my alt Cyvok set MC to 0 thus making sure my pilots fired on them. Yes, all is going to plan. Also, post with your ASCN main. Not some generic alt in an npc corp.
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 08:09:00 - [200] It's saddening how so many are engulfed by a sickening passion for repeatedly spouting insults or accusations that are neither backed up or relevant. Mostly I'm referring to this condescending parrot talk of how supposedly MC are BoB alts or lapdogs. Give it a rest already. Do I call you the slave of your Quafe or Eve-Mart vendor because you have entered into a mutually beneficial business relationship? Hardly. I may call you a cookie addict, though, but just because you get your cookies from one place doesn't mean not supporting the competition is being the other cookie supplier's slave. ---

James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:42:00 - [201] Originally by: Rukaz Noone shoots our Ikky :\| Whut? You're trying to tell me that shooting at Ikvar is somehow a bad thing? OMG I'm quittin' EVE.
Rukaz Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:52:00 - [202] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Rukaz Noone shoots our Ikky :\| Whut? You're trying to tell me that shooting at Ikvar is somehow a bad thing? OMG I'm quittin' EVE. Ikvar has been clean for some time now. His progress to recovery was good. Then some low-down dirty ASCN damage dealers set him back to square one. It's not them who have to pick up the pieces. It's us! :)
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.06 10:20:00 - [203] The MC have always been close to BoB which I'm sure they won't deny. CYVOK knows this, if MC capital ships were seen making jumps close to his space he is right to be cautious. Sure, the MC have their whiter than white reputation but the fact remains they're closer to BoB than anyone else in this game. Preparing for a pre-emptive strike is the intelligent thing to do. Whether CYVOK should have made his post announcing the standings reset is a different matter. Approximately a week later and some AXE pilots have fired a few shots on some MC ships and Seleene returns the standings favour. Fair enough, its what we'd do aswell. Then comes this thread. This thread is snowballing downhill and creating further animosity between ASCN and MC pilots. I'm pretty sure The MC will have a role to play in this war but its looking increasingly likely they'll be joining the side everyone thought they would in the first place. If there was no thread I'm sure some diplomatic resolution could have been reached and the playing field would open up again. I'm sure everyone can agree its probably too late for that now. Hurt feelings are gradually beginning to speak louder than the isk. In summary, CYVOK and Seleene have both bought whatever repercussions their forum posts may have upon themselves. Both sides are fueling the inevitable MC involvement further. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Riddari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 10:41:00 - [204] Actually MC had trigger happier pilots earlier as members of FRICK shot several people in AXE space last week. I believe that incident was sorted as such incidents usually are and not on the forums. MC claiming to be the hurt party is laughable. As for MCs "whiter than white" image, what on earth happened to make BOB and MC appear angel-like while I was away? ¼+¼ a history
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 10:43:00 - [205] Originally by: Riddari Actually MC had trigger happier pilots earlier as members of FRICK shot several people in AXE space last week. I believe that incident was sorted as such incidents usually are and not on the forums. MC claiming to be the hurt party is laughable. As for MCs "whiter than white" image, what on earth happened to make BOB and MC appear angel-like while I was away? "Doctor I'm afraid it's completely inoperable, Mr Riddari's Tinfoil hat has overheated and become completely fused to his cranium. There's no hope of removal." .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one Real men use blasters
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 10:43:00 - [206] The depth of cognative dissonance in this thread is absolutely staggering. It was professional... reading this thread, seems some children can't seem to separate reality from game. No need to take things so personal, kids! Not like your masculinity is threatened if you lose a cruiser in the depths of 0.0 or anything Play a game for fun, get too emo and it ruins the whole thing. /too mature for this game, LM
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 10:50:00 - [207] Originally by: Riddari Actually MC had trigger happier pilots earlier as members of FRICK shot several people in AXE space last week. I believe that incident was sorted as such incidents usually are and not on the forums. MC claiming to be the hurt party is laughable. As for MCs "whiter than white" image, what on earth happened to make BOB and MC appear angel-like while I was away? Oh really I would like to see the chat logs of this, as far as I know Frick nor MC have been near AXE space.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 10:58:00 - [208] Welsh, nice post so I'll use it to make a few points. I know I said I was done with this but, screw it. I'm bored at work. Originally by: welsh wizard The MC have always been close to BoB which I'm sure they won't deny. CYVOK knows this, if MC capital ships were seen making jumps close to his space he is right to be cautious. That's just the problem - we're nowhere near AXE / ASCN space. We're not in Stain. We're in Providence. We have been for nearly two weeks. Quote: Sure, the MC have their whiter than white reputation but the fact remains they're closer to BoB than anyone else in this game. As an entity, I find BoB to be pretty much like any other 'enthusiastic' alliance. Overall, I don't really like or dislike them. I do, however, like a few of the actual people in BoB. Dianabolic, Blacklight and Galavet are straight shooters who have never failed to give me a straight answer to any question I've ever asked. This is probably one of the main reasons our outposts are in Period Basis and not Feythobolis or Vale of the Silent, etc... In fact, since the original conversation with BoB's leadership that closed this issue, I don't think it's been brought up again since. Say what you want about BoB - there is no grey area and you always know where you stand. I know even Celest appreciates that. Quote: Preparing for a pre-emptive strike is the intelligent thing to do. Whether CYVOK should have made his post announcing the standings reset is a different matter. Agreed. That post caught everyone in the MC by surprise because we had no idea why ASCN would even be worried about us at the time. We'd had mutual blue standings for a while now. In fact, I kept ASCN at +5 even after Cyvok's post to make damn sure my pilots did NOT push this issue over the edge. Quote: I'm pretty sure The MC will have a role to play in this war but its looking increasingly likely they'll be joining the side everyone thought they would in the first place. I think it's safe to say that it rules out ASCN or AXE as a potential contractor but, beyond that, it really has no efect on us right now. Quote: If there was no thread I'm sure some diplomatic resolution could have been reached and the playing field would open up again. I'm sure everyone can agree its probably too late for that now. Hurt feelings are gradually beginning to speak louder than the isk. I actually did not want to make this thread, but too many people within my alliance were fed up with the rampant paranoia and false interpretation of our actions. Regardless, the BoB / ASCN war is still very much their own until someone either pays MC to care or some kind of offensive escalation takes place that MC cannot ignore. Quote: In summary, CYVOK and Seleene have both bought whatever repercussions their forum posts may have upon themselves. Yup. Fine by me. I knew what I was doing when I hit the submit post button and why. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:00:00 - [209] Edited by: Grimster on 06/10/2006 11:05:14 Originally by: Riddari Actually MC had trigger happier pilots earlier as members of FRICK shot several people in AXE space last week. I do know that some of us BDCI guys were around passing through DSS last week being chased by an AXE gang following the Zizoo incident, one other AXE guy was shot and de-shipped but friendly chat straightened all that out. TBH I didn't know FRICK had been down though..
Gothikia Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:05:00 - [210] Originally by: Sathana Well, i know i shouldn't be responding to this topic, but then again I also know for a fact all the other axiom besides HC shouldn't be either... Then STFU like you've been told. AXE is not ASCN - Quit thinking otherwise

Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:07:00 - [211] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 05/10/2006 21:51:35 Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. Nice flamebait. I can assure you every contract BDCI ever had was for a client, thanks. BOB are MC's landlords, now BoB have given MC the nod, either tactily or explicitly and they need an excuse. Anyone who can't see through this shallow pretext probably isn't clever enough to log in anyway P.S. As to why I quoted your post - The big blue wasnt a contract, were you even in the MC then?
Mawl Morningstar STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:19:00 - [212] Originally by: Creamster Damn, I never realized shooting somebody was this big of a deal. I lol'ed cause it's true. Friendly fire incidents in large alliances are a common thing, and one that can be usually resolved without this amount of smoke and mirrors. I don't believe MC will rush to invade ASCN, but I'm sure some extra hands for defence of Period Basis and Delve won't go astray? Anyhoo, I'm just looking forward to more fun fights with you guys/gals. No doubt MC will be just as good at teaching me the ways of "teh pvp" as BoB are.
Assassin 2 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:29:00 - [213] Hurry up and destroy ASCN...
TURBOman Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:31:00 - [214] Why set someone to 0.0 if u gonna whine if someone does the same to you ? Mods won't let me keep my sigs :S
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:34:00 - [215] why dont MC just join BOB to make it easier for logistics. aye. d solo.
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:35:00 - [216] Originally by: Assassin 2 Hurry up and destroy ASCN... Can never destroy an alliance, maybe force it to move out of 0.0 or their territory, but never destroy.
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:36:00 - [217] Originally by: Pestillence BOB are MC's landlords, now BoB have given MC the nod, either tactily or explicitly and they need an excuse. Anyone who can't see through this shallow pretext probably isn't clever enough to log in anyway P.S. As to why I quoted your post - The big blue wasnt a contract, were you even in the MC then? If there was a Hugh with the original post you might have something to say, the standings are set because one of our pilots was attacked. We have a number of entities that happily shoot us and enjoy the same standings that ASCN and AXE do now, we shoot them too.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:38:00 - [218] Originally by: Pestillence Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 05/10/2006 21:51:35 Originally by: Riddari MC has during its history fabricated quite a few contracts just to alleviate boredom and to keep themselves in the spotlight. Fabricating an excuse to help their landlords isn't stretching very far. Nice flamebait. I can assure you every contract BDCI ever had was for a client, thanks. BOB are MC's landlords, now BoB have given MC the nod, either tactily or explicitly and they need an excuse. Anyone who can't see through this shallow pretext probably isn't clever enough to log in anyway P.S. As to why I quoted your post - The big blue wasnt a contract, were you even in the MC then? TBB was a contract, my character wasn't in the MC back then because I was out of game playing some in some fairy world. If you look at my employment history though, you can see that I go back quite a bit with a couple of people in BDCI and thus are more informed than the average alt residing in a non-NPC corp for posting purposes. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:39:00 - [219] Edited by: Latex Mistress on 06/10/2006 11:40:14 Originally by: Mawl Morningstar I'm just looking forward to more fun fights with you guys/gals. No doubt MC will be just as good at teaching me the ways of "teh pvp" as BoB are. This is exactly what I posted about above... nobody said we're getting into fights with you!!! It was a setting of standings, that's it. Come to our space or hang out where we're at and expect to be fired upon... No different than if we came to your space. The difference is, we're telling you ahead of time. Got it? Sheesh... EDIT: removed potential for flame war (not that anyone will pay attention)
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:45:00 - [220] Edited by: Grimster on 06/10/2006 11:47:31 Originally by: Latex Mistress EDIT: removed potential for flame war (not that anyone will pay attention) Aye, mostly self-defeating, a nun could post here about the benefits as she saw them in loving God together with daily prayer and abstinence. By page 3 she's a devil worshipping ho with a crystal meth problem. Such are the forums.

welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:50:00 - [221] Aye, dirty rotten scum *** filth those nuns. Originally by:** anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:52:00 - [222] Originally by: Weebear To be honest, they shot at a pilot who has probably slaughtered neutrals by the thousand in low sec. I know if I passed Ikvar at a gate the first thing that would cross my mind wasn't whether he was in the MC or not. That and his Security Status is still -9.9 so might flash red to people anyway. Lamest excuse for a war ever.... Hi Weebear, long time no see For the record, I was using my other character Phlax, who has a +1.6 sec status when this happened so there wasn't any sec status/flashy confusion. Anyway the fact of the matter is this isn't 'omg I got shot at boo hoo', neither are we going to war with ASCN. THE ONLY THING THIS MEANS IS THAT ASCN HAVE SHOWN THEMSELVES TO BE HOSTILE IN 0.0 AND WE WILL NOW RETURN THAT FAVOUR. THE MC DOES NOT FIRE ON NEUTRALS OTHERWISE WHICH IS WHY THE -10 IS SET SO OUR PILOTS CAN KNOW WHO IS GOING TO DEFINATLEY FIRE ON THEM k? Also tbh, who cares if I've pirated before, you don't shoot at supposed friends just becuase one of their pilots is an ex pirate (and tbh I would have killed both the guys who shot at me if I had have been in a suitable ship )
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:52:00 - [223] Originally by: Grimster Edited by: Grimster on 06/10/2006 11:47:31 Originally by: Latex Mistress EDIT: removed potential for flame war (not that anyone will pay attention) Aye, mostly self-defeating, a nun could post here about the benefits as she saw them in loving God together with daily prayer and abstinence. By page 3 she's a devil worshipping ho with a crystal meth problem. Such are the forums. It's alot like the old wisdom "If you argue with a fool, first they will drag you down to their level and then beat you on experience". And still I'm posting here! Must be downtime :( - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Estelle Matsuko Caldari The Beiatch Corp Inc	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:56:00 - [224] Absolutely facinating read. Seriously. MC have set ascn/axe to -10 due to a shooting incident. MC do not intend to invade ascn/axe space, but raids "may" be made by thier pilots into said space. MC will shoot ascn/axe on sight. Will MC be patrolling BoB space I wonder, or staying at home. This has nothing to do with Bob asking MC to look after things at home whilst they carry the hurt stick to ascn and axe space..........does it? Given the choice between watching this soap opera unfold or getting freaky with Lexa Doig, I¦ll go with watching this unfold...........only cos Lexa¦s bodyguards are HUGE mind.
Mawl Morningstar STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:01:00 - [225] Originally by: Latex Mistress This is exactly what I posted about above... nobody said we're getting into fights with you!!! It was a setting of standings, that's it. Come to our space or hang out where we're at and expect to be fired upon... No different than if we came to your space. The difference is, we're telling you ahead of time. Ack! I am trying to pay attention. The bit that confuses me is "Come to our space". I assume you mean Period Basis, but the content of this thread seems to indicate Delve as well? Regardless, my intent was to indicate that, should our paths cross and we are "expected" to shoot each other, I look forward to it! (In a "ohhhhh pvp fun times" kind of way, not a "Raarghh I despise BoB and MC and everyone else raaarrgghhh" kind of way).
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:04:00 - [226] Originally by: Mawl Morningstar Ack! I am trying to pay attention. The bit that confuses me is "Come to our space". I assume you mean Period Basis, but the content of this thread seems to indicate Delve as well? Regardless, my intent was to indicate that, should our paths cross and we are "expected" to shoot each other, I look forward to it! (In a "ohhhhh pvp fun times" kind of way, not a "Raarghh I despise BoB and MC and everyone else raaarrgghhh" kind of way). Apology accepted, Captain Needa. LM
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:05:00 - [227] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 06/10/2006 12:06:22 Like dam buses this forum, you can't post as it keeps asking you to login and then you do 2 at once!!
GoGo Yubari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:05:00 - [228] Originally by: Estelle Matsuko Will MC be patrolling BoB space I wonder, or staying at home. This has nothing to do with Bob asking MC to look after things at home whilst they carry the hurt stick to ascn and axe space..........does it? The answer is "no". For example, I was moving a ship earlier from Period Basis to empire. On the way I met a friendly ASCN fellow who told me "I have been told not to shoot at MC", which attitude I was happy to reciprocate because in this alliance YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SHOOT NEUTRALS. Considering the things that have been going on (see this thread), however, I might have assumed a different attitude, but no need to take the situation any further if there is hope of a diplomatic solution. See, we're not totally trigger-happy? So, I was hardly part of any patrols instituted by .. well, anyone. However, if we get a contract on ASCN and whether it's orders specify me to patrol a system or to take to the offense, I will be more than happy to do that (if this stupid thing called RL will permit me!). At the moment, I have been given no such orders.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:06:00 - [229] Quote: This has nothing to do with Bob asking MC to look after things at home whilst they carry the hurt stick to ascn and axe space..........does it? Well considering we are and have been for the past 2 weeks in Prov I doubt it? Ikvar that red text hurt my eyes almost as much as your dam MC/Frick sig on our forums
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:06:00 - [230] This makes me angry. The MC were not going to attack ASCN/AXE. The entire "somebody set up us the bomb" from ASCN was complete paranoia. I will honestly tell you that BoB does not want MC crashing the party. Not then, not now. ASCN/AXE, by setting MC to 0.0 you had effectively made it difficult for you to hire their help to fight BoB, which they would have done. Had it happened, it would have been very exciting. However, the paranoia overcame strategic thought and now we see that the panic in the leadership had trickled down to the membership. By shooting at MC you had made it virtually impossible for them to offer their services to you against BoB. Now if you still don't see the hole you are digging yourselves into, you had better start looking carefully. Bad decisions have the potential of turning MC hostile against you. The correct response should have been talks, negotiations, some level of reparations. Really, ASCN/AXE, you're already at war with BoB. There's no reason to start a war with MC because of a breakdown in communications. BoB doesn't want an alliance as big as MC crashing the party, even if we end up fighting on the same side. This was supposed to be BoB vs ASCN/AXE. The fight had barely begun in earnest and now it's already becoming messy. The statisfaction in war is seing your plans bear fruit. I am angry because your altercations with MC were no plan of ours. This mishap was completely the fault of your paranoia. You should not be creating your own problems apart from plots we make because there is no fun in you losing ground because of things that we had no hand in doing.

Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:15:00 - [231] Originally by: Rebellion Big post At least someone has a grasp of the situation anyway, even if he is an MC alt. Good post.
News Minmatar Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:23:00 - [232] Originally by: Ikvar (and tbh I would have killed both the guys who shot at me if I had have been in a suitable ship ) What were you in then, a pod?
Rina Shanu Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:26:00 - [233] Oh momma, Ikvar hurt my eyes with that huge red font. No matter what you say most of us out here feel this was about to happen no matter what; we also feel that MC has an afinity to BoB. Curious just how many had any doubts about this happening..... Why did it take so long MC ? Would have been a nice turn of events if MC would have sided with ASCN, now taht would have been a surprise. Anyway I am sure that all invoilved were aware of this posibility and calculated it. Rina what has 4 legs and 1 hand? a happy pitbull
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:26:00 - [234] Edited by: Weebear on 06/10/2006 12:31:07 Edited by: Weebear on 06/10/2006 12:29:42 The forum ate my post (and hamster) anyway, it went like this..... Heya Ikvar , Understood. Last night when people were saying it was you that was shot at, the first thing that struck me was "No f***ing wonder" More of a compliment to you than anything! Anyway, we shouldn't be posting here now so I won't comment any further. Shouldn't have posted when I didn't have 100% of the facts in the first place. (Looks like the same could be said for 8 of the 9 pages here)
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:43:00 - [235] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr TBB was a contract, my character wasn't in the MC back then because I was out of game playing some in some fairy world. If you look at my employment history though, you can see that I go back quite a bit with a couple of people in BDCI and thus are more informed than the average alt residing in a non-NPC corp for posting purposes. Check my corp history. Oh look, I'm ex-MC. I'm in a one player corp as a temp measure to erect a POS. As to the Big Blue being a contract - you are either lieing or you were lied to. Pick one.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:54:00 - [236] Quote: Oh momma, Ikvar hurt my eyes with that huge red font. You should seriously see his Sig on the MC forum his Avatar isn't much better either.
FraXy Caldari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 13:02:00 - [237] I was not gonna touch this thread, but since it`s like 2 months since i shot a neutral hauler in wrong region i thought i might try and hang myself. We all know that big alliance means a lot of different personalities and skill levels along with different dedication to Industry and PvP. When flying around a hostile region and there is a corporation or alliance living there that should be avoided or not engaged it might get a few incidents. Now there may be a lot of different reasons that might have caused an incident and i will take my own hauler kill as an example. I was roaming around Catch were we operated on NBSI and i was flying north from SV5 which after like 2 jumps is in Providence which i never realised and i logged off in some random system at some dead-end constellation. Then i went to bed and woke up 4 hours later dead tired, but needed to shoot something and just this could cause an incident. The reason of that story is with an alliance big there is absolutely no possibility to control every member 100% from doing stupid things and if they happen deal with them when they occur. Anyways, MC got us at -10, ok. If i run into an MC member, have a good time killing me. The End. This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
kabayn Minmatar Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.06 13:35:00 - [238] I laugh at this as if MC was the first attacked, While I was heading back to my home in impass from a run through the pipe about 1.5 weeks ago, far before any of your pilots get attacked or the standing change, I meet up with a MC fleet in AXE space, one of there pilots tries to warp scramble me. Now I may be blind but attacking someone in their home space or anywhere else is quiet a hostile action and this was before any standing change. Don't try to be the ones acting all righteous as if the causation for your change was not obvious from the start. Later on that day, we set up a gang to remove you from AXE space but things get settled and all is well (or so it seems) than one of your pilots get attacked and somehow its different and we all get set to -10. Seems like other motives than just getted attacked. -kab
Rukaz Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 13:49:00 - [239] I hope in a years time when someone reads back on this thread they realise one simple fact. ASCN set us to neutral (meaning KOS) without provocation. MC set ASCN to -ve (our KOS) only after one our pilots was shot at. End of story.
ohfortheloveof	Posted - 2006.10.06 13:59:00 - [240] Originally by: Rukaz I hope in a years time when someone reads back on this thread they realise one simple fact. ASCN set us to neutral (meaning KOS) without provocation. MC set ASCN to -ve (our KOS) only after one our pilots was shot at. End of story. alt post but hey dose this reminde any1 of the fix sa war

Harlequinn Caldari Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 14:01:00 - [241] Edited by: Harlequinn on 06/10/2006 14:03:28 Well, the forums are interesting again.... Some people just need to step back, take a deep breath, and stop posting such nonsense. MC has set ASCN/AXE to -10. Fine. ASCN/AXE have also done the same in response to an isolated shooting incidents when tensions were high. It's understandable, and in many circumstances prudent. If MC is coming for ASCN/AXE in determined force, I'm sure we will know soon enough. If so, we will fight them too. We aren't the aggressors in Bob's war against us, but we'll damn well fight everyone who wants a piece of us. In the meantime, if ASCN/AXE is in MC territory (which is more than likely for a few of us as were on our way to Delve) we need to be prepared to be shot at by MC. No big deal. This probably could've been handled diplomatically, but relations between MC and ASCN/AXE HC are obviously strained on both sides. Whether bridges are burned or not, it doesn't matter; the situation is what it is. Both MC and ASCN/AXE are huge organizations of people and I'm sure on both sides of the line are pilots chomping to shoot at one another. In ASCN, there are pilots who are just confused about what to do when they see a neutral in what we've declared a NBSI zone (or nearby) to our pilots. They're probably a bit excited when they see a target and don't check who they are before they fire, or what the potential consequences may be. Especially now this has all the elements to escalate, pilots on both sides will be hard to control now that blood is in the water. As an ASCN member I can say we have never been better prepared than now to deal with the consequences of an escalation, but we don't need it while were in the BoB war. Were not afraid of it, but there's no sense goading it on the forums or in local either. Hopefully MC pilots agree and will show some restraint as well. If not, cest la vie. ASCN/AXE was under orders to not shoot MC in BoB or MC space. This was made difficult by them being reduced to 0.0 standings while we are under NBSI in BoB space.Almost the entirety of ASC/AXE didn't fire on MC pilots, and trust me encounters were aplenty in 0.0. The gangs I've been in have deliberately not engaged MC gangs or pilots out of respect for what CYVOK wanted. Unless you want to don a T2 tin foil hat and think that BoB setup ASCN/AXE by using an ASCN alt to attack the MC, then one pilot (maybe two) made a tactical error and engaged the MC. MC responded by announcing that they would proactively defend themselves. MC/ASCN/AXE haven't been the best of friends over the past year and it's sounds as if MC took CYVOK's announcement about them joining the BoB war against ASCN/AXE rather badly. I'm not faulting CYVOK's decision, I don't know what it was based on, just pointing out that MC isn't doing anything ASCN/AXE wouldn't do or has done under similar circumstances. Everyone just needs to relax to enjoy the pew pew and the boom boom. Let this play out without the forums spin and hatred. Too many people in this thread are taking this too personally. There has been more drama, inadequacy driven anonymous insulting, and chest beating than this topic deserves. But then again, at least the forums are interesting again... Now after reading the 10 pages of this thread I only have one question... Does anyone have an aspirin? --Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none.--
Bala Dwinn Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 14:13:00 - [242] Originally by: Estarriol Originally by: CYVOK Seleene, you may now consider any and all bridges that we once had burned. You and the MC have done nothing here but prove what we suspected since last week. No one moblizes on the scale you have to "fight pirates". Welcome to the party. -CYVOK- It is astounding when one stops to consider how self-fulfilling paranoia often is. I hear paranoia thrown around alot. One man's paranoia is another's due defensive diligence. Its a mean world full of self-proclaimed, combat-loving bobbits and noble mercs with gleaming reputations. Creamster has the quote of year earlier in this thread. Bottom line -- "friendly" fire or unauthorized fire or mistaken fire (whatever) is a rather frequent occurrence in 0.0 space and its surprising that in this case, especially with no loss to MC, that its used as a standings reset. Thereofore MC must not be surprised to hear accusations of cooperation with the bobbits. One could indeed say the same for the earlier reset of MC standing to 0 by ASCN but that act must be considered with the following two factors and is thus disanalagous: (1) ASCN, an industrial alliance, was and still is facing an invading threat by the biggest pvp alliance in game and therefore prone to less diplomacy and more radical measures than usual, and (2) resetting standings to 0 is different than the present reset to -10. Thankyoucomeagain.
GoGo Yubari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 14:33:00 - [243] Edited by: GoGo Yubari on 06/10/2006 14:36:06 Originally by: Pestillence As to the Big Blue being a contract - you are either lieing or you were lied to. Pick one. I was also in the MC at the time and there was absolutely nothing ever mentioned that would even hint that it wasn't a contract. In fact, considering that most of the pilots in the alliance had their sympathies firmly with the target, the notion is somewhat absurd. In fact I have only once heard of a suggestion that the MC take a non-contract war, but in that case the suggestion was objected to quite heavily by the ranks. If you have some hidden knowledge, show us the proof. Otherwise you end up looking somewhat less than bright. If what you suggest would be true, I would very much like to know in such a case.
KIATolon Black Omega Security The OSS	Posted - 2006.10.06 14:37:00 - [244] I thought there was a contraband inc forum post saying it was just to ransom BB and you had no employer? Of course the post may have been made up, but that would be a hint at least :)
GoGo Yubari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 14:39:00 - [245] Edited by: GoGo Yubari on 06/10/2006 14:41:28 Originally by: KIATolon I thought there was a contraband inc forum post saying it was just to ransom BB and you had no employer? Of course the post may have been made up, but that would be a hint at least :) That would be a gross misunderstanding of the situation, but not an entirely unlikely one for someone who had just entered the alliance. The outpost was intended to be ransomed (in fact, I prefer the term sold), but that was a part of the payment mechanism. It made sense considering the client obviously didn't want it, nor would we take it for ourselves, either.
KIATolon Black Omega Security The OSS	Posted - 2006.10.06 14:44:00 - [246] Fair enough, however you can see where the mis-understanding occurs, I hope?
Elendar Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.10.06 14:48:00 - [247] MC moves lots of capitals near ascn space, mc pilots talk about how they can't wait to join in with bob and kill the titan ASCN shoot MC and MC are suprised curious how hard did you have to try to make they shoot you? Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry Xirt must be one of the GREAT leaders in eve to keep you guys shooting shuttles in hophib
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 14:49:00 - [248] Edited by: Seleene on 06/10/2006 14:49:52 Originally by: Harlequinn I have made one of the best, most thought-provoking posts of this thread. Respect, sir, for posting both the obvious and clarifying the more contentious issues so well. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Trooper B99 Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 15:09:00 - [249] Quote: As to the Big Blue being a contract - you are either lieing or you were lied to. Pick one. I think, being bluntly honest, you have not very much of an idea what you are talking about looking at how long you were "in" the rank and file of the MC. And as a BDCI director and person who has dealt with numerous contract requests and clients, I have very good insight into exactly who the clients have been, how much we have been paid by said clients, what the clients want and expect. Yes, having access to the multiple subforums not accesable by regular members in regards to contracts does help in this. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 15:12:00 - [250] Edited by: Seleene on 06/10/2006 15:12:31 Trooper, GoGo - stop feeding the troll. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?

Trooper B99 Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 15:20:00 - [251] Originally by: Seleene Trooper, GoGo - stop feeding the troll. Yessir Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
NAFnist Rage of Angels	Posted - 2006.10.06 15:30:00 - [252] So what about the frikken missing banner!!!!!! I await offical response
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 15:34:00 - [253] Originally by: NAFnist So what about the frikken missing banner!!!!!! I await offical response You only get a banner if we're doing a contract and this was just a funy message So if you want a banner then hire us , if you pay extra you can have the Hoffmister (Buy The Hoffs new single and get it to No.1)
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 15:40:00 - [254] Originally by: Traxio Nacho (Buy The Hoffs new single and get it to No.1) Don't Hassle the Hoff! Glad to see that a good night's sleep seems to have done a lot of good for this thread, though I have to say that the trolling and tinfoil hattery is rather amusing at times. For all you MC playa hataz out there: Don't hate the playa. Hate the game. And in the immortal words of 2Pac: "I ain' mad at cha." My bro Leo McGarry (eve-mail him to apply for CONIN ;)) will back me up on that, I think. P.S. Don't really eve-mail Leo, or he might bust a cap. Farjung FanBois, Charter Member
Gozer Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 15:55:00 - [255] Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Traxio Nacho And in the immortal words of 2Pac: "I ain' mad at cha." My bro Leo McGarry (eve-mail him to apply for CONIN ;)) will back me up on that, I think. Haha! Crovan, I was looking for the first one to dare post that.. Mr popular you're bound to be on TS later..
Rukaz Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 16:19:00 - [256] Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Traxio Nacho (Buy The Hoffs new single and get it to No.1) Don't Hassle the Hoff! Glad to see that a good night's sleep seems to have done a lot of good for this thread, though I have to say that the trolling and tinfoil hattery is rather amusing at times. For all you MC playa hataz out there: Don't hate the playa. Hate the game. And in the immortal words of 2Pac: "I ain' mad at cha." My bro Leo McGarry (eve-mail him to apply for CONIN ;)) will back me up on that, I think. P.S. Don't really eve-mail Leo, or he might bust a cap. OHNOES, now Leo's gonna shoot Crov and we'll have to set ourselves to -10
CRUSH3R Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.06 16:23:00 - [257] nice thread btw %) And nice war, but the more people are engaged in it the less killmails are flying in our space...
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 16:29:00 - [258] Please convo Leo McGarry to join Contraband
Gozer Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 16:34:00 - [259] Originally by: Ikvar Please convo Leo McGarry to join Contraband WTS: Leos broken keyboard and monitor..
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 16:44:00 - [260] Originally by: Ikvar Please convo Leo McGarry to join Contraband He may have auto-reject on, so be sure to follow up with EVE-Mails....every day. Farjung FanBois, Charter Member

Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.06 16:52:00 - [261] I havent read all the pages of this thread but i`ll add this, appologies if its been said already Perhaps Ikvar was shot at because he was thought to be scouting for bob or some such info? (not saying he was) What does the -10 mean? Are you planning on opening up diplomatic relations with ASCN and attempt to repair relations ? While I respect Seleene and the MC I would really think long and hard about how this will look if you actively attack ASCN when you are a "neutral" party at this point. Surely a neutral party would look for compensation and try and resolve hostilites? Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Nepereta DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 16:56:00 - [262] be good to kill MC and Bob at the same time: BTW How much was BoBs retainer? Originally by: CC 3 Cybok and lacky's REVENGE WILL BE SWEAT ILL BE BACK
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 17:01:00 - [263] Originally by: Nepereta be good to kill MC and Bob at the same time: BTW How much was BoBs retainer? 2bil, OH Shi..... wasn't meant to say that. Who said anything about killing? Have we declared war on you? No we have just changed our standings, Hugh will tell you if we're gonna be shooting. Kaleeb as far as I know BOB was not around he was by himself.
Julien Derida Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 17:26:00 - [264] Edited by: Julien Derida on 06/10/2006 17:26:54 Originally by: Kaleeb I havent read all the pages of this thread but i`ll add this, appologies if its been said already Perhaps Ikvar was shot at because he was thought to be scouting for bob or some such info? (not saying he was) What does the -10 mean? Are you planning on opening up diplomatic relations with ASCN and attempt to repair relations ? While I respect Seleene and the MC I would really think long and hard about how this will look if you actively attack ASCN when you are a "neutral" party at this point. Surely a neutral party would look for compensation and try and resolve hostilites? Read the rest of the thread and it will become clear. Lazy bugger ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
Alistair Theisman Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.06 17:30:00 - [265] <3 and respect Seleene, but...The only MC I want to shoot right now is Hans.
War Bear Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:04:00 - [266] Originally by: Elendar MC moves lots of capitals near ascn space, mc pilots talk about how they can't wait to join in with bob and kill the titan ASCN shoot MC and MC are suprised curious how hard did you have to try to make they shoot you? MC pilots talking about how we can't wait to join with BoB and kill Cyvoks e-peen? Any logs or screenshots or anything to back up this silliness? Would love to see this wonderful intel. The only capital ship we were drooling over getting our hands on was The Establishment's Nyx. Not sure where you get your info from but you're paying too much for it. No matter where you go, there you are.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:27:00 - [267] Originally by: Alistair Theisman <3 and respect Seleene, but...The only MC I want to shoot right now is Hans. That's what everyone's saying, so we were thinking of holding a pinyata competition, BDCI will be stuffing Hans' hauler full of exotic dancers and everyone get's an alpha-strike hit at it. 1 Billion isk a ticket.
BoinKlasik Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:38:00 - [268] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Alistair Theisman <3 and respect Seleene, but...The only MC I want to shoot right now is Hans. That's what everyone's saying, so we were thinking of holding a pinyata competition, BDCI will be stuffing Hans' hauler full of exotic dancers and everyone get's an alpha-strike hit at it. 1 Billion isk a ticket. for 1 bil i want janitors as well. doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:42:00 - [269] Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 06/10/2006 17:26:54 Originally by: Kaleeb I havent read all the pages of this thread but i`ll add this, appologies if its been said already Perhaps Ikvar was shot at because he was thought to be scouting for bob or some such info? (not saying he was) What does the -10 mean? Are you planning on opening up diplomatic relations with ASCN and attempt to repair relations ? While I respect Seleene and the MC I would really think long and hard about how this will look if you actively attack ASCN when you are a "neutral" party at this point. Surely a neutral party would look for compensation and try and resolve hostilites? Read the rest of the thread and it will become clear. Lazy bugger It will take far too long, I have far too much forum whoring to catch up with as it is, cant you just give me the gist of it? Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:47:00 - [270] Originally by: Gothikia Can I please have a copy of the killmails please so I can sort this out, this should not have happened at all from anyone in Axiom Empire, if it did, im gonna eat them. Well tbh I was destroyed and podded by ASCN and AXE not too long ago but I didnt report it. I can send you that mail if it helps... Cheers, Lowa - now back to the start of this thread What if the truth was something else?

Royaldo KVA Noble Inc. THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.10.06 19:13:00 - [271] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Alistair Theisman <3 and respect Seleene, but...The only MC I want to shoot right now is Hans. That's what everyone's saying, so we were thinking of holding a pinyata competition, BDCI will be stuffing Hans' hauler full of exotic dancers and everyone get's an alpha-strike hit at it. 1 Billion isk a ticket. 1b i way too much for him. say 200m and ill come running
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.10.06 19:50:00 - [272] Ok. Been through the whole thread. sigh Is it just me or did the intelligence level drop by like ten thousand f00kin points? Are you all chavs that cant read? I mean jesus h christ, there have been posts far less comprehensive than the explanations in this one that has been perfectly understood by the other party. The insaine amount of pure stupidity in this thread beyond me tbhf. I mean come on! And again, if you like me to post the mail of me being dropped by AXE and ASCN feel free to convo me. You know what though, I didnt really care then, I dont care about my ship or my pod now and it was "solved" by talking and I accepted it as "**** happens". Apperantly ASCN does not swing the same way being the one party that first came on GalNet explaning a standing change based on bad intelligence! Hell, Nez did a perfectly balanced post, and correct to the f00kin point tbh and not ONE person did comment on it. Then again...the truth cant be argued! Arrg! Now you got me all upset! More drink damnit! >.< Regards, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 20:03:00 - [273] I visited this thread and all I got was this lousy reply (and chlamydia). _______________________________________________
Velsharoon Gallente Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains	Posted - 2006.10.06 20:18:00 - [274] That was off minerva.
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.10.06 20:42:00 - [275] Originally by: War Bear The only capital ship we were drooling over getting our hands on was The Establishment's Nyx. Why does everyone want our Nyx dead The Establishment is at your service...
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.06 20:46:00 - [276] Originally by: Ange1 Originally by: War Bear The only capital ship we were drooling over getting our hands on was The Establishment's Nyx. Why does everyone want our Nyx dead Because you steal children's lunch money with it, m8! - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.10.06 20:53:00 - [277] Originally by: Seleene Because you steal children's lunch money with it, m8! This game needs an evil Uber pirate ship thats the stuff of Myth The Establishment is at your service...
Taedrin Gallente Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.10.07 00:52:00 - [278] Edited by: Taedrin on 07/10/2006 00:53:12 Alright, let me see if I'm getting this right 1) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 2) ASCN soils pants 3) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 4) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 5) ASCN -> MC relation set to neutral 6) Cyvok announces change publicly in forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 9) Seleene announces change publicly in forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever. If this is essentially what happened, then let me say that I am personally happy that I am not a part of any major alliance, if this is how they all conduct themselves. As far as I can see, the leaders of both MC and ASCN have been immature and undignified. Just because Cyvok decided to forgo any and all diplomacy doesn't make it any better for Seleene to do so. [EDIT] unqualified "you" [/EDIT]
Ronja Mistysdottir Norsk Gruvedrift	Posted - 2006.10.07 01:01:00 - [279] Waagaa Ktlehr are in MC. Waagaa Ktlehr have started multiple wars involveing thousands of pilots. That is why MC set ASCN to -10. Blame Waagaa Ktlehr. Well, he is really Omegaa's alt.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.07 01:04:00 - [280] Originally by: Ronja Mistysdottir Waagaa Ktlehr are in MC. Waagaa Ktlehr have started multiple wars involveing thousands of pilots. That is why MC set ASCN to -10. Blame Waagaa Ktlehr. Well, he is really Omegaa's alt. I think you are onto something here... - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.

Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.07 02:22:00 - [281] Edited by: Nez Perces on 07/10/2006 02:25:07 Originally by: Taedrin they Alright, let me see if I'm getting this right 1) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 2) ASCN soils pants 3) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 4) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 5) ASCN -> MC relation set to neutral 6) Cyvok announces change publicly in forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 9) Seleene announces change publicly in forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever. Actually your timeline of events is out of wack.. Its more like this : 1) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 2) ASCN soils pants 3) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 4) Cyvok anounces MC + FIX relation is being set to neutral, publicly on forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 5) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 6) ASCN soils pants 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 publicly on forums as payback. And that is the honest truth.. well perhaps ASCN didn't soil pants as much as stated.. but you get the picture. So lets try and stick to the facts from now on.. and have some intelligent discourse, whoever's side you are on.. its not that hard.
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.07 02:54:00 - [282] Originally by: Nez Perces 1) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 2) ASCN soils pants 3) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 4) Cyvok anounces MC + FIX relation is being set to neutral, publicly on forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 5) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 6) ASCN soils pants 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 publicly on forums as payback. While I agree with you Nez, I would also say that ASCN being wrong doesn't make the MC right. CYVOK wasn't the best diplomat when he dealt the standings to MC/FIX, however, 2 pilots out of 5000 or w/e it is member alliance is far from representing what most of the alliance thinks. The most logical solution would have been to take this up with CYVOK and gotten it sorted out. At the same time, I can see where the MC is coming from, but if I want to look at this with total neutrality; ASCN and MC both handled these events badly. King Tinfoil Hatter
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.10.07 03:04:00 - [283] Originally by: Dortock Originally by: Nez Perces 1) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment 2) ASCN soils pants 3) Cyvok misinterprets as an act of aggression 4) Cyvok anounces MC + FIX relation is being set to neutral, publicly on forums without engaging in any diplomacy whatsoever 5) BoB declares war on ASCN because they're bored 6) ASCN soils pants 7) 2 ASCN pilots shoot at an MC pilot 8) MC -> ASCN relation set to -10 publicly on forums as payback. While I agree with you Nez, I would also say that ASCN being wrong doesn't make the MC right. CYVOK wasn't the best diplomat when he dealt the standings to MC/FIX, however, 2 pilots out of 5000 or w/e it is member alliance is far from representing what most of the alliance thinks. The most logical solution would have been to take this up with CYVOK and gotten it sorted out. At the same time, I can see where the MC is coming from, but if I want to look at this with total neutrality; ASCN and MC both handled these events badly. This is EVE, if you want to set someone -10 you set them -10, you dont need to work it out diplomaticaly, you dont need to discuss it, you dont need a reason, the fact they came on here to even let them know is more than enough imo. Knowhere does it say that before you set someone -10 you have to go through some long winded diplomacy bull. CEO - Art of War
Cheechako Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.07 03:14:00 - [284] Edited by: Cheechako on 07/10/2006 03:19:34 Has anybody thought that the -10 was for our own pilots to be aware that ACSN et all will aggress first as was the case when we were 'neutral'? IE consider ACSN hostile.... There's been no hugh so the people on the jump to conclusion mat("we're doing a freebie for BoB, BoB paid us, etc") might want to rethink the situation. Just a thought. Respect to Harlequinn for his well thought out post.
Taedrin Gallente Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.10.07 04:22:00 - [285] Originally by: Nebuli This is EVE, if you want to set someone -10 you set them -10, you dont need to work it out diplomaticaly, you dont need to discuss it, you dont need a reason, the fact they came on here to even let them know is more than enough imo. Knowhere does it say that before you set someone -10 you have to go through some long winded diplomacy bull. True - nowhere does it say you have to use diplomacy. However, ASCN is an industrial alliance (at least as far as I can see), and as such diplomacy should be their main method to resolve disputes since PvP isn't their strong suit. Likewise, MC is a mercenary alliance. While also a PvP oriented alliance, if they wish to maintain the image that is necessary to attract potential clients, it would be best if they solved arbitrary disputes such as this diplomatically. Neither Cyvok nor Seleene were thinking about what was BEST for their alliance. MC has alienated a potential (and very wealthy) client by abandoning diplomacy. ASCN seriously risked making an enemy by abandoning diplomacy. In fact, from the way things are looking - they HAVE made an enemy, which is a Bad Thing(tm) now that they are at war with BoB.
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.07 04:34:00 - [286] Originally by: Nebuli This is EVE, if you want to set someone -10 you set them -10, you dont need to work it out diplomaticaly, you dont need to discuss it, you dont need a reason, the fact they came on here to even let them know is more than enough imo. Knowhere does it say that before you set someone -10 you have to go through some long winded diplomacy bull. No, you don't. But if you are mantaining a reputation like the MC does, then yeah it might be crucial how the eve community views them, especially if they are in the merc business. If they weren't.. then yeah who would care? \ Btw, Kyguard says hi King Tinfoil Hatter
WETRAIN Minmatar Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.07 04:34:00 - [287] Traxio is A wuss but i love him Yo trax lets mine some omber in Dammalin like in the old days ^ ^ ----------------------------------------- When People are Ready the Master will come. - Original by Anihilus-
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 09:21:00 - [288] lol ASCN did a Xetic? You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.07 09:37:00 - [289] To ASCN and all the Lemmings who "don't care what you say" Click here and STFU. kthx As for Pestilence (or however you spell it): this is our contract page. If you would take but 45 seconds to see "The Big Blue" listed deep under contracts. It's been there for everyone to see, so we'd invite you to STFU too. Love, LM *Bringing truth to the truculent, one post at a time LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.07 09:37:00 - [290] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 07/10/2006 09:37:56 Originally by: WETRAIN Traxio is A wuss but i love him Yo trax lets mine some omber in Dammalin like in the old days ^ ^ I thought that was our alittle secret Personally I agree with Nez as he usually has a level headed and inteligently (sP) written post unlike most forum posters (me included sometimes :P)

Michuh Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.07 10:00:00 - [291] Originally by: Dortock Did BoB tell you to do this? chitters under his tin foil hat My god is this corp still going?? Maelstrom Recruitment
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.10.07 11:19:00 - [292] Edited by: Ange1 on 07/10/2006 11:19:18 Originally by: Taedrin 3) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment Originally by: Nez Perces 1) MC moves capital ship fleet against Establishment THE Establishment. The Establishment is at your service...
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 11:47:00 - [293] Now i am lost , which part of lord of the rings is this sceneexactly ? "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.10.07 13:02:00 - [294] Originally by: Latex Mistress As for Pestilence (or however you spell it): this is our contract page. If you would take but 45 seconds to see "The Big Blue" listed deep under contracts. It's been there for everyone to see, so we'd invite you to STFU too. Ah, it's on the internet, it must be true! Killer blow there LM
Sabadagus Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.07 14:28:00 - [295] Is this still you Deja? Its nice to see that Conin/MC is still important to you. Althoug...you sound different theese days. Sort of testy and sour. And you used to be such a happy little camper :( Hope you recover from whatever it is that ails you. Hugs and kisses Sab
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.07 15:13:00 - [296] Originally by: Velsharoon That was off minerva. You noob, I put that title on Minerva _______________________________________________
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.10.07 20:26:00 - [297] Edited by: Pestillence on 07/10/2006 20:29:14 Originally by: Sabadagus Is this still you Deja? Its nice to see that Conin/MC is still important to you. Althoug...you sound different theese days. Sort of testy and sour. And you used to be such a happy little camper :( Hope you recover from whatever it is that ails you. Hugs and kisses Sab Hello Sabadagus, You of all people know I still <3 CONIN, I am just tired of the lies, spin and blobs of the alliance they joined. Thats why I left. Ofc CONIN are still important to me, lots of people I like and respect are there. You of all people should have realized this, you do so love this type of analysis
hothead Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.10.08 01:58:00 - [298] sooner or later BOB and MC will fight then an equal base of skills and player SP can be brought against each other and then we will see how good each side is... after all MC cant sit on the fence forever can they?? this aint a flame i would just like to see 2 of eve,s finest pvp forces go boom boom against each other.. i like both bob and MC ..please dont kill me
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.08 03:47:00 - [299] I for one feel highly disrespected that there is no banner with Hugh's nipples in this announcement. We of ASCN demand equal MC announcement bling! Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when backdoor bandit is in local.
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.10.08 09:34:00 - [300] Originally by: F'nog I for one feel highly disrespected that there is no banner with Hugh's nipples in this announcement. We of ASCN demand equal MC announcement bling! You know the drill; no contract, no nipples. Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?

Magnus Thermopyle Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.08 15:22:00 - [301] I thought it would take a few weeks before BoB called their henchmens for help, but I guess I was wrong.
Draximus Cane Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.08 15:23:00 - [302] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I thought it would take a few weeks before BoB called their henchmens for help, but I guess I was wrong. you forgot to read the post didn't ya -------------------------------------------------
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 15:23:00 - [303] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I thought it would take a few weeks before BoB called their henchmens for help, but I guess I was wrong. Suprised? Still waiting for you guys to come to delve You Will Cry My Name www.beyond-divinity.net/nira//eve/lol.jpg
Karoth Tyu FATAL REVELATIONS	Posted - 2006.10.08 15:49:00 - [304] Such drama! Not that everyone and their mom didn't see this one coming 1 microsecond after BoB declared on ASCN.
Carth Jared Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:23:00 - [305] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I thought it would take a few weeks before BoB called their henchmens for help, but I guess I was wrong. Originally by: Karoth Tyu Such drama! Not that everyone and their mom didn't see this one coming 1 microsecond after BoB declared on ASCN. Have a coke and a smile and stfu.
Rukaz Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:17:00 - [306] Originally by: hothead sooner or later BOB and MC will fight then an equal base of skills and player SP can be brought against each other and then we will see how good each side is... after all MC cant sit on the fence forever can they?? this aint a flame i would just like to see 2 of eve,s finest pvp forces go boom boom against each other.. i like both bob and MC ..please dont kill me You do realise thet BoB have ten times the number of players that MC do? Of course MC would kick their asses..... only joking BoB, please don't take our space.
Mr Abbadon Caldari Svea Rike	Posted - 2006.10.09 04:49:00 - [307] hm no proof about the MC guys getting shot at? Trigger happy pilots? proff little girl show some proof, some names anything.... why would they shoot at MC at first place? if ASCN did what would they gain by attacking a "neutral" alliance i suppoce as a merc corp you ARE neutral if you call yourselfs mercs. right? wasnt it ******s excuse to invade poland when he said that the polish guards shot at german patrols? MC comon you cant be that dumb. all the posts by MC and BOB shows you walk hand in hand. I just pitty the ones that hired MC, who knows how much MC knows about those corps/alliances. And ASCN plz comon have some security plz. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Minmatar ships: Varied piles of scrap metal welded together by random lightning strikes..
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.09 05:35:00 - [308] Originally by: Mr Abbadon hm no proof about the MC guys getting shot at? Trigger happy pilots? proff little girl show some proof, some names anything.... why would they shoot at MC at first place? if ASCN did what would they gain by attacking a "neutral" alliance i suppoce as a merc corp you ARE neutral if you call yourselfs mercs. right? wasnt it ******s excuse to invade poland when he said that the polish guards shot at german patrols? MC comon you cant be that dumb. all the posts by MC and BOB shows you walk hand in hand. I just pitty the ones that hired MC, who knows how much MC knows about those corps/alliances. And ASCN plz comon have some security plz. AXE is currently shooting our station after no further escalation from us. kthx. Farjung FanBois, Charter Member
Alistair Theisman Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.09 06:54:00 - [309] Originally by: Crovan AXE is currently shooting our station after no further escalation from us. kthx. We heard there was still a secret stash of beer you guys hadnt found yet...and we were really thirsty.
pylons38 Bad Karma.	Posted - 2006.10.09 06:57:00 - [310] Originally by: Seleene MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. hi bob alts

Steel Rat Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.09 07:05:00 - [311] Last time I checked, MC set AXE to -10. So I no longer have to follow any ROE. And as is so convenient for MC, AXE has been hired for this operation. Payment has been recieved and operation was successful. Employer is very happy with the outcome. Steel Rat Axiom Alliance
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:00:00 - [312] Originally by: Steel Rat Last time I checked, MC set AXE to -10. So I no longer have to follow any ROE. And as is so convenient for MC, AXE has been hired for this operation. Payment has been recieved and operation was successful. Employer is very happy with the outcome. Steel Rat Axiom Empire LOL!!!! Nice one! - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:13:00 - [313] Originally by: Mr Abbadon hm no proof about the MC guys getting shot at? Trigger happy pilots? proff little girl show some proof, some names anything.... why would they shoot at MC at first place? if ASCN did what would they gain by attacking a "neutral" alliance i suppoce as a merc corp you ARE neutral if you call yourselfs mercs. right? wasnt it ******s excuse to invade poland when he said that the polish guards shot at german patrols? MC comon you cant be that dumb. all the posts by MC and BOB shows you walk hand in hand. I just pitty the ones that hired MC, who knows how much MC knows about those corps/alliances. And ASCN plz comon have some security plz. I'm Dutch, I'm MC. Half my family got wiped out by the monster you are comparing us to. I am just a wee bit offended right now. Consider yourself unsafe whenever you see me or any of my alts in local. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:43:00 - [314] Originally by: pylons38 Originally by: Seleene MC is setting you both to -10. Ask your trigger happy pilots why. hi bob alts hi troll. -- Nobody stays behind
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.09 10:22:00 - [315] Methinks this thread has run its course... Mods? Er... make that... Seleene? LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:03:00 - [316] Originally by: Mr Abbadon wasnt it ******s excuse to invade poland when he said that the polish guards shot at german patrols? Wow. I just caught what I missed behind those asterisks last night in my sleepy haze. You should most emphatically remove that from your post. If only I knew who your main was... Also, from a debate standpoint, there is a long standing unwritten rule that the first one to use that individual to support their case more or less...erm...loses. Farjung FanBois, Charter Member

Saucerhead Forum Moderator	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:18:00 - [317] We don't need real life history brought into this. Besides, i believe message has reached it's destination and there's nothing more to talk about. PS. Consider using evemail next time? -- Read the Rules!



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