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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:55:13 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Note that our developers usually have three or more versions of the client installed on their workstations at any given time. If there are bugs related to this, we're likely to find and fix them quickly. So would I be correct in guessing that the resources are versioned and independent of the client version used (TQ/SISI/etc), and that multiple clients coordinate downloads using file-based locking? Yes.
so your saying we should have our sisi shared files folder be the same as the tranquility shared files folder once its out on tq
I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps
Liandri Covenant
184
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:01:49 -
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btw why is my sisi screen black after i logged in it already finished acquiring bulk files, now its just black screen with the loading circle top left corner for like 20 minutes
I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
6876
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:05:05 -
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Daniel Jackson wrote:btw why is my sisi screen black after i logged in it already finished acquiring bulk files, now its just black screen with the loading circle top left corner for like 20 minutes
It's downloading things.
In the launcher settings you might want to tick 'Download all Resource Files,' restart the launcher, and allow it to update.
Just remember, whenever you see a Carrier die to a Drifter... well....
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
658
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:13:58 -
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Daniel Jackson wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Note that our developers usually have three or more versions of the client installed on their workstations at any given time. If there are bugs related to this, we're likely to find and fix them quickly. So would I be correct in guessing that the resources are versioned and independent of the client version used (TQ/SISI/etc), and that multiple clients coordinate downloads using file-based locking? Yes. so your saying we should have our sisi shared files folder be the same as the tranquility shared files folder once its out on tq
Yes again!
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps
Liandri Covenant
184
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:15:53 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Daniel Jackson wrote:btw why is my sisi screen black after i logged in it already finished acquiring bulk files, now its just black screen with the loading circle top left corner for like 20 minutes It's downloading things. In the launcher settings you might want to tick 'Download all Resource Files,' restart the launcher, and allow it to update.
i let it sit for about 30min and i now see the character selection screen :P
but it looks like this
http://i.imgur.com/Xdpwf5F.png
lol my other 2 character dont even show and for some reason it shows the biomass counter above my main o.O
ok i just pressed esc then quit then i clicked play on the launcher again and it loaded correctly that time
I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
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dhunpael
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:44:34 -
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- Extracting the shared cache makes my pc extremely slow when trying to play other games installed on the same hard disk.
(playing League of legends because of the downtime on the testserver).
- The loading when first entering the game is irritating.
Download it before you can start your client. It's no fun to watch downloads two times in a row.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1999
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:53:57 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Daniel Jackson wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Note that our developers usually have three or more versions of the client installed on their workstations at any given time. If there are bugs related to this, we're likely to find and fix them quickly. So would I be correct in guessing that the resources are versioned and independent of the client version used (TQ/SISI/etc), and that multiple clients coordinate downloads using file-based locking? Yes. so your saying we should have our sisi shared files folder be the same as the tranquility shared files folder once its out on tq Yes again!
Let's see if we can get a yes-pyramid going...
What happens if the lock-holding client crashes and another client is waiting for the resource (or restarting after crash), does it periodically check if the lock-holding client is still running and is something more than just the PID being used for such checks?
And will it be able to differentiate clients on different hosts when using e.g. NAS or VM's, where PID collisions can happen.
Nyan
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps
Liandri Covenant
184
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:54:28 -
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dhunpael wrote:
- Extracting the shared cache makes my pc extremely slow when trying to play other games installed on the same hard disk.
(playing League of legends because of the downtime on the testserver).
- The loading when first entering the game is irritating.
Download it before you can start your client. It's no fun to watch downloads two times in a row.
im sure they are still tinkering with it, it probably won't be like that on release
I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
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Sgt Ocker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
334
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:55:17 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Test server Quote: You're running a pre-release version of the EVE Launcher. Blah Blah, might cause problems. Click OK to continue or Cancel to cancel Click OK to continue - Then nothing, launcher just sits there with the play button greyed out, no error messages, nothing downloaded, it's just doing nothing. - - - - - - - - - - I have a separate install for DoD (until recently was working fine), which now calls itself - Server: Duality (VIP MODE) and says - Downloading updates to res cache (188.06 MB/188.06 MB) 100%. Then it just stalls and well nothing is happening.
I guess a ticket to support and wait a few more weeks for an answer is my best option.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
659
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:23:36 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Daniel Jackson wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Note that our developers usually have three or more versions of the client installed on their workstations at any given time. If there are bugs related to this, we're likely to find and fix them quickly. So would I be correct in guessing that the resources are versioned and independent of the client version used (TQ/SISI/etc), and that multiple clients coordinate downloads using file-based locking? Yes. so your saying we should have our sisi shared files folder be the same as the tranquility shared files folder once its out on tq Yes again! Let's see if we can get a yes-pyramid going... What happens if the lock-holding client crashes and another client is waiting for the resource (or restarting after crash), does it periodically check if the lock-holding client is still running and is something more than just the PID being used for such checks? And will it be able to differentiate clients on different hosts when using e.g. NAS or VM's, where PID collisions can happen.
Well, the client isn't really holding any file locks.
When a file is requested - let's take 'res:/ui/texture/windowicons/wars.png' as an example, we first look it up in an index and find that it maps to 6e/6ea5261768d2ed4a_98435ff56ca3a989e403c244de8c3af2. This file name encodes the original name and a checksum of the contents of the file, so different versions of any file get different file names.
The shared cache is then checked to see if this encoded file name exists. If it does, that file is loaded and we're done.
If it doesn't exist, this file is requested from our CDN and downloaded on a background thread. The file is downloaded in memory - when it has finished it is saved to a temporary file. Once the save is finished, the file is renamed to the final name in the shared cache.
If two (or more) clients request the same file at the same time, they may find that the file does not exist in the cache. In this edge case, both (or all) clients will download the same file. They will save it out to their temp files and both (or all) will attempt to rename that file to the final name. Only the first one to do the rename will succeed - the other's will fail. That's OK, though - the only reason it can fail is because the file already exists, and it can only exist because another client successfully downloaded and saved the file.
So, for this rare edge case, the only harm is the fact that some file got downloaded more than once.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Makari Aeron
The Shadow's Of Eve
TSOE Consortium
193
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:28:21 -
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So... "DoD Sappin' My Bandwidth!" *Waves engineer wrench wildly"
CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.
CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
660
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:34:34 -
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Makari Aeron wrote:So... "DoD Sappin' My Bandwidth!" *Waves engineer wrench wildly"
You always have the option of downloading everything before you start your client. That's what it does today - it's called patching. We're just giving you more options - the option to start playing before the client is fully patched.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Wadiest Yong
Porcus Volans
Sev3rance
6
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:34:49 -
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Spent more than a few hours on this. It's not working for an iota.
1) old Sisi client didn't update properly, so ...
2) deleted old client, and the new c:\programdata\ccp folder that holds the res_temp and resfiles folders
3) created a fresh copy of the TQ client on a different drive\folder, plus the redirected bookmark to Singularity as usual
4) when launching (as admin) the new eve.exe /server:Singularity bm the launcher updates itself, then disappears...
5) relaunched the launcher: it starts to extract the bulk of the files from the sisi folder to the new \programdata\ccp folders
6) launcher starts patching, and after applying the patch it signals "downloading to res cache"
7) stops at 10.75MB of 529.71MB (15%)
every time.
Suggestions ? |
Makari Aeron
The Shadow's Of Eve
TSOE Consortium
193
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:39:05 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Makari Aeron wrote:So... "DoD Sappin' My Bandwidth!" *Waves engineer wrench wildly" You always have the option of downloading everything before you start your client. That's what it does today - it's called patching. We're just giving you more options - the option to start playing before the client is fully patched.
Yep. I just wanted to use a TF2 quote in EVE. I'm actually pretty happy with the concept of DoD. It means less time and work on my end to set up clients on a new computer.
CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.
CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3169
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:41:06 -
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I assume on the Mac version you cannot have one set of files to be used by all clients? If I have multiple clients, or a TQ and a Sisi client, they each store their own files?
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Drizzd
Eagle Construction Worx
6
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:41:35 -
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Unless you put up WAAAYY more server power - your new "feature" is of little use - I try to run the "download full client-rescache" since last evening - it ALWAYS stops after getting some bytes.
Sometimes i get 100 mb, sometimes even less than 2 mb - I get the impression that the content server is way over its capacity by the number of requests and amout of data to send....
Before on Duality the feature was at least "testable" - as it downloaded the rescache in a few hours (14..5 gb with a 1.6 mb/s connection) - but now 
Vincent Athena wrote:I assume on the Mac version you cannot have one set of files to be used by all clients? If I have multiple clients, or a TQ and a Sisi client, they each store their own files?
The differences make a "sisi-client" incompatible to a TQ-client - at least that is mentioned in the patch-notes
First feedback : the new launcher crashes or hangs about every time I start it - have to use task-manager to close it by killing the process. |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps
Liandri Covenant
184
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:03:02 -
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Drizzd wrote:Unless you put up WAAAYY more server power - your new "feature" is of little use - I try to run the "download full client-rescache" since last evening - it ALWAYS stops after getting some bytes. Sometimes i get 100 mb, sometimes even less than 2 mb - I get the impression that the content server is way over its capacity by the number of requests and amout of data to send.... Before on Duality the feature was at least "testable" - as it downloaded the rescache in a few hours (14..5 gb with a 1.6 mb/s connection) - but now Vincent Athena wrote:I assume on the Mac version you cannot have one set of files to be used by all clients? If I have multiple clients, or a TQ and a Sisi client, they each store their own files? The differences make a "sisi-client" incompatible to a TQ-client - at least that is mentioned in the patch-notes While the new system will help you in that matter - if you use multiple TQ-clients, each will install a mere 350 mbytes to your harddisk - but ALL of them will use the same resource-cache ... so the resource-cache is needed only once. A big step forward!
First feedback : the new launcher crashes or hangs about every time I start it - have to use task-manager to close it by killing the process.
they also said in like 2 pages back or 1 page back that tq and sisi can use the same shared file folder
I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
661
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:16:37 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I assume on the Mac version you cannot have one set of files to be used by all clients? If I have multiple clients, or a TQ and a Sisi client, they each store their own files?
That is the case today. I hope we can have a truly shared cache on the Mac as well before we release this on TQ.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
661
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:19:17 -
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Daniel Jackson wrote:dhunpael wrote:
- Extracting the shared cache makes my pc extremely slow when trying to play other games installed on the same hard disk.
(playing League of legends because of the downtime on the testserver).
- The loading when first entering the game is irritating.
Download it before you can start your client. It's no fun to watch downloads two times in a row.
im sure they are still tinkering with it, it probably won't be like that on release
We'll see if we can optimize this. Shuffling 12GB of data does exercise the hard disk a bit, but keep in mind also that this is a one-off process.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Ghaustyl Kathix
Rising Thunder
51
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:38:14 -
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My launcher won't update the resource cache. The first time I ran it, it unpacked just fine and then it went to download updates to the resource cache and froze at "100%, 200MB/500MB" (can't remember the exact numbers). After that, running the launcher makes it freeze at 0% of updating the resource cache.
I deleted resTemp, ran as an administrator (though that wouldn't make a difference since I'm downloading it to a folder on a non-system hard drive), ran the repair tool, still getting the same problem. |
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Freelancer117
so you want to be a Hero
265
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Posted - 2015.02.27 17:26:31 -
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I want the option to have more than 3 capsuleers to choice from under one account, I'll even pay plex to add alt slots under one account 
The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3189
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Posted - 2015.02.27 19:51:28 -
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how does the client deal with old files? there must be some form of garbage collection for the cache?
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
662
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Posted - 2015.02.27 19:58:08 -
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Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:My launcher won't update the resource cache. The first time I ran it, it unpacked just fine and then it went to download updates to the resource cache and froze at "100%, 200MB/500MB" (can't remember the exact numbers). After that, running the launcher makes it freeze at 0% of updating the resource cache.
I deleted resTemp, ran as an administrator (though that wouldn't make a difference since I'm downloading it to a folder on a non-system hard drive), ran the repair tool, still getting the same problem.
Unfortunately one of the files downloaded by the launcher is really large, it is half the size of the total download and the progress bar is based on the number of files rather than size downloaded. It is therefore likely that when it appears frozen it is still downloading that single large file. We'll sort this out before going live with this.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
662
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:00:11 -
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Bienator II wrote:how does the client deal with old files? there must be some form of garbage collection for the cache?
There will be, either from the launcher or the client (or both), maybe even as a stand-alone tool. It's a simple process, just haven't packaged up nicely yet.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3169
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:09:32 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Bienator II wrote:how does the client deal with old files? there must be some form of garbage collection for the cache? There will be, either from the launcher or the client (or both), maybe even as a stand-alone tool. It's a simple process, just haven't packaged up nicely yet.
Be aware that when you use the mac clonemaker tool, the result is something that bypasses the launcher.
I almost always run the clone, not the main instal. I have had glitches that have rendered the client unusable, ans require a completely new one. When I=its a clone that is glitched, getting a new one takes seconds. When its a entire new client: many many minutes. SO by running clones only I protect the main instal from glitches, and the resulting time sink.
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Thycoon
Patrician Space Incorporation
Patrician Space Incorporation Holding Alliance
7
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:58:49 -
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Quote:Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:
My launcher won't update the resource cache. The first time I ran it, it unpacked just fine and then it went to download updates to the resource cache and froze at "100%, 200MB/500MB" (can't remember the exact numbers). After that, running the launcher makes it freeze at 0% of updating the resource cache.
I deleted resTemp, ran as an administrator (though that wouldn't make a difference since I'm downloading it to a folder on a non-system hard drive), ran the repair tool, still getting the same problem.
Unfortunately one of the files downloaded by the launcher is really large, it is half the size of the total download and the progress bar is based on the number of files rather than size downloaded. It is therefore likely that when it appears frozen it is still downloading that single large file. We'll sort this out before going live with this.
I have the same problem and it doesn't works:
After the launcher start I get after the first procedure the following error message:
GÇ£YouGÇÖre running a pre-release version of the EVE Launcher. This might cause problems with your installation. Do you wish to proceed anyway? Choose OK to continue or cancel to do nothing.GÇ¥
After choosing GǣOKGǥ the launcher is starting with the procedure and getting till the download GǣDownloading updates to res cache GǪGǥ and is hanging while getting between 6 till 18.4% of progress.
I tried everything (new installation, original suggested cache folder option, different cache folder location, different launcher GÇô TQ-launcher, Sissi launcher GÇô emptied all caches etc.), but no success anyhow.
The launcher always stuck in this upper mentioned process and the game cannot be started.
I have also tried the Duality installation as mentioned here:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/download-on-demand-client-for-eve-online/
It updated properly and I could have started but the server was in GÇ£VIP-modeGÇ¥ and I could not log in.
I would appreciate some help with this!
While trying the installation for Duality it was like this - downloading continued while showing it hangs - but it doesn't do that on singularity! |
Vir Allier
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:59:45 -
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can't fix this - all ships in market blurred
Also no audio at all |
Drizzd
Eagle Construction Worx
6
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Posted - 2015.02.27 21:42:58 -
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you get at least into the game ..
I primed the cache - was happy .. then comes the launcher - and is REDOWNLOADING over 9 GB .. wtf ??
Thats about the entire Res-Cache .. what did I prime it for with my eve-client files ?
and I will be surprised if the rescache download will run through this time - as it didnt the 20 times before  |
Vir Allier
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.27 21:53:45 -
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Drizzd wrote:you get at least into the game ..
I primed the cache - was happy .. then comes the launcher - and is REDOWNLOADING over 9 GB .. wtf ??
........
Did u tick "Dawnload all the resource files"? |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
6885
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Posted - 2015.02.27 22:43:38 -
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Drizzd wrote:you get at least into the game .. I primed the cache - was happy .. then comes the launcher - and is REDOWNLOADING over 9 GB .. wtf ?? Thats about the entire Res-Cache .. what did I prime it for with my eve-client files ? and I will be surprised if the rescache download will run through this time - as it didnt the 20 times before
Same problem here.
I'm not re-downloading 10 gigabytes of stuff that is already in the folder.
Just remember, whenever you see a Carrier die to a Drifter... well....
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