Originally by: Tribunal

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Day - 1

Beer, check! Candy and other snacks, check!

Ok! I am docked and ready to fight! Yeah. What's this? Wait for the PoSs to come out of reinforced, hrm.

<drinks a beer>


Day - 3

Lets rock on baby! Ammo, check! 3 x more isk in fitting then cost of ship, check! Beer, oh ffs out! Too late, can't get beer now. Must fight for the great cause! I still have some cokes left, hell yeah! Bring it baby!

Charge!!

Day - 12

Running low on ammo and the one snickers bar left can only go so far. Coke is also low on supply and the dog has been running circles around my chair for the past 2 days. Must not leave the chair though, must endure!

Day - 30

The dog chewed it's way through the front door and has yet to come back. The snickers bar is gone. I am subjected to licking the dried coke from the cans... Vision is getting blurry at times... There are 100 mc/fix/kia! Oh wait, that was just my blurry vision, there is only 50.

Day - 50

Colors are mixing together, blue - red, it's all the same. We are making ships out of tech 1 cardboard. I hear pew, pew sounds when I drift off at times, or is that mining lasers? What do mining lasers sound like?

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Originally by: Murukan

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I would be surprised if it were mc that petitioned the cans. They have a firm grasp on battle tactics and i'm sure that they would of recognized that the cans are clearly for warp in points (because who just wants to sit and get sniped to death). TBH it was probably FiX that petitioned you guys cause from watching their posts regarding AAA anytime they lose it seems to be from haxploits.

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Originally by: gusta

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Originally by: Murukan

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I would be surprised if it were mc that petitioned the cans. They have a firm grasp on battle tactics and i'm sure that they would of recognized that the cans are clearly for warp in points (because who just wants to sit and get sniped to death). TBH it was probably FiX that petitioned you guys cause from watching their posts regarding AAA anytime they lose it seems to be from haxploits.

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Muru stop forum whoring and come play eve with us :p

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Originally by: Murukan

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Originally by: gusta

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Originally by: Murukan

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I would be surprised if it were mc that petitioned the cans. They have a firm grasp on battle tactics and i'm sure that they would of recognized that the cans are clearly for warp in points (because who just wants to sit and get sniped to death). TBH it was probably FiX that petitioned you guys cause from watching their posts regarding AAA anytime they lose it seems to be from haxploits.

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Muru stop forum whoring and come play eve with us :p

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can't stuck at uni still

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Originally by: Traxio Nacho

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I wanna kill nadija

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Originally by: Traxio Nacho

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I wanna kill nadija

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Originally by: Murukan

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TBH it was probably FiX that petitioned you guys cause from watching their posts regarding AAA anytime they lose it seems to be from haxploits.

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Originally by: Tribunal

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Day - 1

Beer, check! Candy and other snacks, check!

Ok! I am docked and ready to fight! Yeah. What's this? Wait for the PoSs to come out of reinforced, hrm.

<drinks a beer>


Day - 3

Lets rock on baby! Ammo, check! 3 x more isk in fitting then cost of ship, check! Beer, oh ffs out! Too late, can't get beer now. Must fight for the great cause! I still have some cokes left, hell yeah! Bring it baby!

Charge!!

Day - 12

Running low on ammo and the one snickers bar left can only go so far. Coke is also low on supply and the dog has been running circles around my chair for the past 2 days. Must not leave the chair though, must endure!

Day - 30

The dog chewed it's way through the front door and has yet to come back. The snickers bar is gone. I am subjected to licking the dried coke from the cans... Vision is getting blurry at times... There are 100 mc/fix/kia! Oh wait, that was just my blurry vision, there is only 50.

Day - 50

Colors are mixing together, blue - red, it's all the same. We are making ships out of tech 1 cardboard. I hear pew, pew sounds when I drift off at times, or is that mining lasers? What do mining lasers sound like?

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Originally by: James Don

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Edited by: James Don on 16/10/2006 16:33:40

T4

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Originally by: Der Pfaffe

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Originally by: Murukan

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Edited by: Murukan on 16/10/2006 17:32:57

Originally by: Crovan

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Originally by: Murukan

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Maybe it's not your intention but the tone that i get from the post is that you're accusing IAC of intentionally blobbing up to crash the node.

And also when you talk about how we use every game mechanic to our advantage that rather irks me because when people usually make the game mechanic arguement it's through accusations of log on traps and other shifty tactics. So far we have not used any shifty tactics and i would certaintly hope you are not implying that we are.

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Obviously you don't know the Waagaa we all love.

To be honest, we noticed that there were fewer defenders than the first time, and were kindof pleasantly surprised. We hoped, in vain that we'd get through crash-free. No such luck, it seems.

No need to get defensive. I don't think anyone is accusing IAC of the logonski/logoffski or something of that calibre. To be honest, I'm with Foofighter. Let's keep the war in-game. You, in particular, have smacked these forums up one side and down the other. You are far from the only one, though. TBH, all smacktalking does is make you likely to get primaried . See you in space.

XOXO

Crovan

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I haven't smacked mc, just fix Ok and i know you aren't accusing of log offs and stuff. But you have to admit when people say "you're using all of the game mechanics to your advantage" it's usually not in the form of a compliment

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He might be referring to slightly naughty stuff like dumping cans around your Pos's last night and then trying to tell the GM that removed some of them, that they were just "warp in points"...

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Originally by: Eleese

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Re read what i typed and then feel free to edit your post, as i never once accused iac of causing lag, i never said mc petitioned you for this i merely took IAC word that someone petitioned them (and assumed it wasnt there own side). And pointed out petitioning of cans especially around pos's happens alot... as some people (not you) quite often use cans to gain an unfair advantage whether via lag or stop covert ops warping in.

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Originally by: Akuma Gouki

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I think EVE is my new girlfriend.

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Originally by: Wierd Beard

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Originally by: Akuma Gouki

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I think EVE is my new girlfriend.

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Eww dude. She's got 30,000 sweaty guys all over her at any given time. Hope you've got lots of penicillin.

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Originally by: Latex Mistress

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Man... it doesn't take much for a thread to turn into a BoB/ASCN-style pile of crap.


Time for a lock methinks.

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Originally by: Murukan

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what exactly are you talking about?

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Originally by: Murukan

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The sides are hardly flaming eachother. Sure we're disagreeing but it's not like we're going "zomg you guys suck" or any stupid crap like that.

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Originally by: Murukan

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Just because we disagree doesn't mean the convo can't keep going.

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Originally by: Murukan

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I would hardly say it's degraded to ascn/bob level yet

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Originally by: Jouni Kalmar

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Originally by: Eleese

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Re read what i typed and then feel free to edit your post, as i never once accused iac of causing lag, i never said mc petitioned you for this i merely took IAC word that someone petitioned them (and assumed it wasnt there own side). And pointed out petitioning of cans especially around pos's happens alot... as some people (not you) quite often use cans to gain an unfair advantage whether via lag or stop covert ops warping in.

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How is using cans to uncloak covert ops an unfair advantage? because the covert ops cant cloak anymore? oh noes! It is within the game mechanics, the game says if covops range < 2000 from an object, deactivate cloak.

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Originally by: Thundirr

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Originally by: Tribunal

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Day - 1

Beer, check! Candy and other snacks, check!

Ok! I am docked and ready to fight! Yeah. What's this? Wait for the PoSs to come out of reinforced, hrm.

<drinks a beer>


Day - 3

Lets rock on baby! Ammo, check! 3 x more isk in fitting then cost of ship, check! Beer, oh ffs out! Too late, can't get beer now. Must fight for the great cause! I still have some cokes left, hell yeah! Bring it baby!

Charge!!

Day - 12

Running low on ammo and the one snickers bar left can only go so far. Coke is also low on supply and the dog has been running circles around my chair for the past 2 days. Must not leave the chair though, must endure!

Day - 30

The dog chewed it's way through the front door and has yet to come back. The snickers bar is gone. I am subjected to licking the dried coke from the cans... Vision is getting blurry at times... There are 100 mc/fix/kia! Oh wait, that was just my blurry vision, there is only 50.

Day - 50

Colors are mixing together, blue - red, it's all the same. We are making ships out of tech 1 cardboard. I hear pew, pew sounds when I drift off at times, or is that mining lasers? What do mining lasers sound like?

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OMG im not alone! My cat literally gnawed through the wall. The fresh air from the hole in the wall actually seems to be reducing the smell from not showering for 50+ days. I think im actually stuck to my chair, and i cant feel my toes!!..

/me loves Eve!

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Originally by: Latex Mistress

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Originally by: Murukan

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what exactly are you talking about?

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It's rather obvious where the thread is going, and it's certainly not on topic. The thread is a war story, not a blow-by-blow intel report or a running dialog about jetcans or numerical surpremacy to be handled by forum warriors.

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Quote:

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Originally by: Murukan

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The sides are hardly flaming eachother. Sure we're disagreeing but it's not like we're going "zomg you guys suck" or any stupid crap like that.

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No, just general and open accusations of lying, loss of "respect", etc... It's how it starts and it really is off topic.

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Quote:

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Originally by: Murukan

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Just because we disagree doesn't mean the convo can't keep going.

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Agreed, so long as it takes place in the appropriate thread. Again: this is a war story, not a running dialog of what's happening F4R right now.

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Quote:

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Originally by: Murukan

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I would hardly say it's degraded to ascn/bob level yet

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Operative word: "yet"

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Originally by: maGz

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/10/2006 16:32:23

Originally by: DHB FooFighter

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no offense, by we fought 50 v 35-40 most of the night and you had us outnumbered on BS. especially when that fix gang jumped in from F4 after AXE left. AXE was only there for 1 of 4 pos's.

It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :).


anyways, was good fun and lag was minimal, except everytime i locked up for half a second i thought i was dead :P

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Sorry man, but that's the biggest load of spin crap bullocks I've read so far from you. Sadly though, because most of your post have been pretty reasonable, although colored. :)

While you might have been outnumbered in BS in a couple of engagements, the fighter swarm more than made up for the lack of firepower. That including things like the awesome traffic control when you only try to jump in 20 people made this easier than it should be on the defending party.

Props for locking down the system quite effectively and good scout work. You used that and the sheer amount of numbers to defend the system. The numbers pretty much guaranteed a node crash at the start of the night (and lo and behold, it crashed!) if we would all end up on one grid and after that it was pretty much impossible to get any forces into the system without them being in a jump queue for over 5 minutes. :)

It's good to know who to target in an AXE gang to get them "bored" though <3 kezz / deathgrip :-p

I'd say props to IAC for knowing how to play the game and use every game mechanic to their advantage.

Shouting it was IAC that beats us last night doesn't nearly give enough credit to all your allies that showed up. If I were to jump all the jumps from Impass to hear I didn't make a difference I wouldn't be showing up next time...

On a closing note, McFixKIA learnt a lot last night too about what could've been done better if we end up in a similiar situation next time. What used to be valid tactics when servers were stable and could actually handle 200 people in one grid nowadays just ends up letting you shoot yourself in the foot. :)

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Problem is you guys contionously belittle IAC & co. by saying you were outnumbered, making that the reason you lost not the fact that we were just better on the day. I wasn't there I'll admit, but it grows tiresome to read every single time you lose an engagement it was because you were outnumbered especially since so far (correct me if I'm wrong!) IAC have congratulated you guys on good skills/tactics when you've won battles...

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Originally by: tigress

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Hey stop that crap. I liked this engagement so much more when we just posted (slightly biased but still) opinions. Smackfests suck. And we don't wanna suck. mkay?

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Originally by: Crovan

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Now I remember why I sometimes hate EVE-O.

Look, it was a good fight. The first mention of cans got brought up by some random alt (presumably, given the ! picture and lack of corp/alliance tags). It was a good fight. We made a couple of mistakes, and got really unlucky a couple of times with timing as well as grid shenanigans. Just leave it at that. You guys capitalized where you needed to and used effective counter-tactics to our tactics that had previously proven very effective. Good show.

This thread started as what has generally been received as a very nice write-up of some very intense fighting. This whinging about who petitioned whom for what, or who outnumbered whom by how many is really not necessary, constructive, or enjoyable for any one (at least I hope nobody enjoys that sort of banter). When the cans were seen, I specifically remembered telling people that, while there was not a hard limit for where the GMs would step in, my understanding was that it had to be excessive, so not even to worry about it.

You won a fleet engagement. Congrats. We'll be back. We'll see if you can repeat the performance. See you in space, and good luck.

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