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Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:27:00 - [1] Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 17:27:27 Author's Note: The following is written purely from a player point of view. If you are expecting some in-character role-playing that is not what this is. All times herein are EVE Standard. Laying Plans The preparations for the attack on the Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate (IAC) began almost immediately after the Battle for 9UY. MC logistics continued to move more and more supplies into our forward bases of ISS Fabrica and ISS Condiso while our combat pilots continued to patrol the areas around 9UY with Ushra'Khan. The MC Capital ship fleet even took part in a joint operation with UK that took down a multi-billion isk Atrocious shipyard POS. As the anti-pirate patrols continued and our logistics teams continued to pour supplies into our forward bases, an interesting twist of events led to progressive talks between the MC and FIX. A series of agreements were reached and, as a result, FIX happily agreed to fly alongside the MC for the duration of the IAC contract. The rank and file MC and FIX member had no knowledge of the pending contract on IAC. Our intelligence suggested that in order for any attack to succeed that we would need as much surprise as possible. To effect this, less than ten people in MC or FIX knew the name of our target until less than thirty minutes before the first shots were fired. Our pilots knew they were gearing up for something "big" and simply trusted in their leaders to provide a follow through for all the effort they were putting forth into preparation. However, all of our preparation did not escape the notice of certain entities... Suspicious Minds While all of this was going on, the political landscape had changed considerably. On 25 September, ASCN announced that they had completed building an Avatar-class Titan in almost complete secrecy. Three days later, on the morning of 28 September, ASCN and AXE announced they were setting the MC and FIX to neutral standings. The build-up of our forces in Providence, combined with some talk of cyno fields which never did make sense to me, had apparently be misinterpreted as some kind of pre-emptive build-up against ASCN. All the announcement really did was get MC and FIX talking to each other more as we both shrugged in bewilderment as to what was going on with the ASCN leadership. It was understandable that they might have seen our build up of forces, but no one had bothered to ask us for clarification. We soon found out why ASCN was so on edge as on the same afternoon that Cyvok made his statement to MC and FIX, BoB declared war on ASCN and began pouring ships into Paragon Soul from Period Basis. The MC looked upon this development with a sense of detached interest, curious to see what kind of contract offers might emerge from such a conflict. Still, we had a job to do against IAC and the focus was on that. As the forums continued to heat up and conspiracy theories flew left and right, the leadership of MC and FIX smiled inwardly at how all of the speculation was turning attention completely away from our actual target... - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:28:00 - [2] - - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:28:00 - [3] Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 17:29:06 7 October - Lockdown After a fairly uneventful night, IAC finally put together a formidable defense fleet that catches a FIX relief fleet inbound to G-7 around 0750. They meet up in MB-NKE and the result is disastrous - twelve FIX battleships and one MC battleship perish in exchange for a single enemy BS kill. The message has been sent - IAC is not going to go quietly. While a bitter pill to swallow, the defeat galvanizes everyone to be more on edge and ready for anything. MC and FIX FC's prepare for a very long weekend. The rest of the morning was very quiet. As soon as the servers come up after downtime, it is confirmed that IAC no longer has sovereignty over the system. McFIX forces begin to log in and move on the IAC outpost. Resistance is minimal. MC Dreads jump in to assist in taking down the outpost's shields. At 1320, the station falls and is taken over by the MC. The bar is raided and I steal Tyraxx's special office chair. At 1353, I post the traditional Hugh announcement on EVE-O. In less than eighteen hours, G-7 has been transformed from a semi-peaceful IAC stronghold to occupied territory. The announcement was withheld until we had ownership of the station and it has the desired effect - IAC rallies their own people and starts calling in friends and allies. McFIX forces keep a stranglehold on G-7 for most of the afternoon. Intel reports start coming in of the lengths IAC is going to in order to fight us. Our scouts patrol the surrounding systems, eventually reporting of an IAC fleet building up in F4R2-Q. A small MC BS fleet moves to break up this force, supported by four MC carriers. At 1727, the battle takes place. It's a hell of a fight, raging for nearly ten minutes. MC losses include 1 BS and two support ships. The IAC fleet loses six battleships and the enemy task force scatters. Things are really starting to heat up now. IAC numbers in G-7 are swelling as more and more log on inside the now MC-flagged outpost. The McFIX gang is holding steady at around 70-80 people, about half in battleships. Around 2120 we receive word that a combined CVA / IAC fleet is building up in F4R that numbers close to 100. Part of that fleet came forward and we caught them on the jump in then chased the remnants around the system. Over the next thirty minutes, we picked off thirteen battleships plus various support ships support for no losses. IAC hadn't been idle and while chasing this fleet around, more and more IAC pilots were logging on inside the station. Our camp of the station was reduced due to calling in support to track down the fleet which had jumped in. This was fine though; since we owned the station, anyone who undocked was locked out so we hoped pulling people off the station camp would get the enemy outside. At last, there was a mass undock of about 60 hostiles, putting odds in local up to about 160 against our 80. After a few false starts which produced nothing more than a couple frigate kills, the enemy fleet finally got their act together and formed up at the outpost. Within a couple minutes they were shooting at it. We'd managed to recharge the shields to over 85% since we'd taken it earlier in the day so we had plenty of time. We spent about ten minutes getting solid intel on the size and composition of the enemy fleet and setting up our covert ops for warp ins. Finally, the word came down - "Prepare to warp in thirty seconds." - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:28:00 - [4] Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 17:28:29 A week went by and our build-up continued. The MC kept both ASCN and AXE set to positive status to ensure none of our pilots made any mistakes. Whether by accident or intent, a few ASCN pilots screwed up. Tensions were already high where ASCN was concerned; a few incidents where ASCN gate camps locked MC ships (usually grounds for hostile return action in 0.0 for us) and then an actual shooting incident prompted the MC to make a choice with regard to the safety of our pilots. On 5 October, I announced that the MC was setting ASCN & AXE to -10. We would not seek them out, but they would be fired upon if encountered near our area of operations. Even as tempers flared and the accusations flew, MC & FIX scouts finished their work in the target system of G-7WUF. We had screenshots and complete layouts of every POS in the area and knew exactly what to expect. IAC had thrown us one wrinkle tho that caught us completely by surprise - a new Galentee outpost had been 'hatched' earlier in the day. Now there were two main bases where our targets could operate from. Of course, everyone assumed that all of our activity was yet more evidence that we were getting ready to make a move on behalf of assisting BoB. On Friday night, we gleefully proved everyone wrong... 6 October - Blitzkrieg At 2100, an MC fleet left ISS Condiso with orders to lock down the IAC outpost in G-7. Close behind was a FIX fleet whose goal was to lock down the gates of the system. One hour later, the MC fleet received word that a decent sized IAC blockade was waiting at the jump-in to F4RQ-2, the system with the new IAC outpost. We assumed that IAC either suspected our intent or was just being cautious. With the clock ticking, the MC fleet commander jumped right in and opened fire on the smaller IAC blockade, shattering it and sending the survivors running for cover. We soon learned that IAC had still had us set to blue due to a recent agreement from the contract against the Pirate Coalition in 9UY a few weeks earlier and that their blockade had not been intended for us at all. Oh well, the cat was most certainly out of the bag now!! The MC Fleet arrived in G-7 fifteen minutes later and went 'NBSI' on everything within range, which admittedly wasnÆt much. Within the next fifteen minutes, the FIX fleet arrived securing the gates while the MC locked down the outpost. There is no meaningful resistance and friendly forces are overwhelming. Surprise is complete. Tyrrax Thorrk announced the invasion on the EVE-O forums at 2228. A combined MC / FIX cap ship fleet consisting of twenty-two Dreadnaughts and seven Carriers jumped into G-7 at almost the same moment and quickly began to pound on the POS defense grid. McFIX Cap Ship Fleet The rest of the evening proceeded pretty much according to plan. All five large towers in the system were put into reinforced mode but each one had between two to three days of strontium in it. Someone coins the term 'McFIX' on the EVE-O forums. We liked the name and spent at least twenty minutes on TS arguing over what kind of sandwich it should be. Many of our Dread drivers switched over to carriers to lend support to the US time zone players who were now showing up in the battle area. After a few more kills and little real action, the Euro time zone people finally called it a night. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:28:00 - [5] Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 17:31:19 By 0830, we had nearly forty people in gang, including twenty-two battleships. Local was still around 160. After a quick break, we made the decision to make an all or nothing go against the blob at the station. We would warp in and stay until they were all dead or we took too many losses to stay in the system. At 0843, we began the final attack on the remnants enemy fleet. Five minutes later, it was all over. Eight enemy battleships went down and the remainder of the fleet scattered. It didn't take long for us to capitalize on our victory. By the time the station was ours we had destroyed fifty-eight enemy ships, thirty-three of them battleships and not suffered a single loss of any kind. Regardless, we were still heavily outnumbered in local so moving against the POS's was still very risky. In the end, we waited too long, jumping in half a dozen dreads to hit the POS. The shields were already above 50% and we didn't have enough time / firepower to put it back down before downtime hit. At this point, we knew that G-7 was not going to fall. Without the ability to deploy a POS of our own and the uncertainty as to what the 100+ enemies in local were doing, we decided to let it go. With the one POS out of reinforced mode, IAC and their allies regained sovereignty after downtime and moved quickly to re-take their outpost again. We made them pay for it, ending the day with one-hundred and fourteen kills, forty-eight of them battleships. MC lost a single covert ops to a POS. FIX, who got jumped by the initial uber blob, lost seven battleships on the day and about an equal number of support ships. It was our best day on record and we were proud of the work we'd done, but it felt hollow. IN LOVING MEMORY Closing Thoughts What if the node hadn't crashed seven times? What if we had been able to keep IAC locked down in their station? What if we'd had just fifteen or twenty more people online? What if, what if, what if...? This is the frustration of EVE at the moment - no matter how carefully you plan, no matter how determined you are, no matter how good you are, sometimes the servers just don't give a damn. :) Too many variables led to us not being able to achieve our goals. To be honest though, it's not all the servers fault. IAC deserves all the credit in the world for doing several things: 1.) All the free beer seems to have earned you a lot of friends! I don't think anyone in the community (except maybe yourselves) expected to see so many show up to help in your defense. 2.) Two and a half to three days of strontium in the towers? FFS!! Did someone tip you off or is that normal for you? I freely admit that this one thing screwed us more than any other development. Had you not done this, you would have been in a hell of a lot more trouble! 3.) I saved the best for last - You fought like demons. You didn't hide and cower away. Even when we were raining destruction upon you and ships were exploding left and right, another IAC guy would warp in and fill the hole. You guys totally deserve your land. Local stayed mostly clean and you have our respect. And so, we have retired from the field. Savor your victory, such as it is. You have earned it. Perhaps the next story I write will have a different ending. Only time will tell... - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:28:00 - [6] Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 17:30:40 After downtime, the station passed back into MC hands and we began the process of charging the shields again. All of the POS's in the system were still in reinforced mode, with the earliest one coming out at 0300 the next day. IAC made one attempt to re-take the station which ended in a decisive defeat for them. At 1226, a battle took pace that saw the McFIX fleet lose a Vengeance and a Megathron. The attacking IAC forces lost eight battleships and nine support ships before scattering. It was the only major fleet action of the day. The rest of the day consisted of IAC sitting in their reinforced POS while McFIX fleets kept G-7 and the surrounding systems swept clean. One particularly amusing kill was a Scorpion that strayed outside one of the POS bubbles and got killed by a group of our long range snipers. It had been an exhausting couple of days and the first of IAC POS's would be coming out of reinforced early in the morning. The two-three days of strontium IAC had placed in their towers had really done a number on our scheduling. The good news was that a large number of our players had Monday off and would be around to hopefully finish the job. Then, the entire world seemed to show up in G-7... 9 October - Does anyone have extra ammo?? We knew IAC was going to bring friends into this... we just didn't expect how many! IAC, CVA, S***rdly, AXE, D2... Hell, even a few Goons showed up! Local peaked in G-7 at over four hundred people. The node crashed five times**. It didn't stop Stradivarious from sniping the hell out of several ships in his Machariel, and our FC's managed to get a few ganks on the board between node crashes but for the most part, we did the only thing we could: we watched and waited. We managed to avoid any losses and just played it cool. These people couldn't stay here the whole time and we were in no great hurry. It was a foregone conclusion that we would miss the window to take out the first POS but there was still one more chance in the afternoon after downtime. We resolved to do as much damage as possible to the enemy fleet before then. Local had finally dropped to just below 200 shortly after 0530. Due to the node crashes and the blob, many of our pilots had logged and taken the opportunity to get some much needed rest. Our gang had just over twenty people in it, but we had over a dozen T2 fitted battleships. The FIX FC in charge, Admentus Cor'vion, was in no mood to sit idle any longer. Some of the enemy fleet was scattered or docked, but a very large chunk of them were taking down the shields on the outpost in an attempt to regain control of it. Around 0540, the McFIX fleet warped in and decided to send a message to AXE by calling them primary first. Steel Rat's Apocalypse and three more AXE battleships vanished, along with six other support ships. Our fleet warped out with no losses. This pattern continued to repeat itself. As our pilots woke up and got in gang, our fleet continued to warp in again and again to whittle down the huge blob of ships outside the outpost. It didn't stop the enemy from taking the outpost back though... - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:28:00 - [7] Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 17:29:38 This was the fight which the whole invasion had been building toward. We were outnumbered 2:1 in every ship category and TS was buzzing with barely restrained excitement. PvPers live for a battle like what was about to happen. I'd have loved to see the reaction of IAC as we warped in on their huge fleet but it never happened. "Warp in fifteen seconds." No sooner had the words been spoken... and the node crashed. It was bound to happen, but our big fight had just been spoiled. We re-logged and started forming up again, hoping to salvage what still promised to be a fun evening. We then discovered a few shocking things: Due to the node crash, the outpost we'd taken earlier in the day was now back in IAC hands! We could no longer dock at the station but we were still receiving money from sales tax, repair fees and such! Yet now, IAC could dock and undock at their leisure. WTF?? In light of all this, Local chat got a bit strange. Fine, let's just kill them all. We set up camp back at a gate and laid waste to another small fleet before yet another node drop! A familiar site to all of EVE. We all re-logged again, got loaded up and then proceeded to hit them outside the outpost, receiving very few losses and many kills. The night ended with seven total losses for MC (two battleships) and twelve FIX battleships down. In return, we'd taken out eighty-three enemy ships, including thirty-six battleships. Not bad for a day's work, but we still could not dock with the station we'd conquered just twelve hours earlier... 8 October - Welcome to the Twilight Zone During the night, a number of very strange events took place. We'd had people online all night, constantly trying to harass and kill the enemy and doing a decent job of keeping them bottled up. However, a GM turned up to 'fix' the problems the system was having and what followed can best be described as weird and probably the most bizarre and disappointing move I have ever seen. This allowed our opponents to stick up their hands and be teleported from the system they were camped in, their ships loaded with their hangers and everything. To make it worse we weren't allowed to try and prevent them from leaving! So now they were allowed to move freely out of the system? From a station they weren't even meant to have access to? Refit their ships even? And the GM warns of 'action' against us? Well, thanks, buddy for tossing our entire campaign strategy right out of the frakkin' window! Apparently the best solution was to allow IAC to move their stuff out with complete impunity. At this point, an IAC member named Skully undocked in a hauler in front of our entire fleet and happily scooped up a few loot cans before re-docking at the station we apparently controled seeing as how I was still getting money from broker and repair fees. The enemy had been almost completely bottled in the station since Friday, but all our efforts were for naught as in this time the GM supervised: * The jumping out of 3 hostile dreads. * The removal of their ships and kit from the station; they couldn't get through our gate camps so he kindly teleported them to F4R. * The warning of one of our players due to breaking a ceasefire 2 minutes before he declared it. * The collection of our cans by their haulers and then re-docking in the station. * The removal of multiple BS from our station into their pos. * The station remaining in their hands for over 12 hours until downtime with no effort to penalize those exploiting this. Apparently this was a fair and unbiased solution. THANKS! - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:37:00 - [8] WOW, Awesome read! More of these please! WELCOME BACK MGRL!
R3dSh1ft Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:38:00 - [9] it was a lot of fun hope to fight you again in the future :) fly safe. ______________________________________
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:42:00 - [10] Was a very good read. On the GM part though gus preston was working in hand with the gm doing trial stuff so it was weird for iac too In rust we trust!!!

Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:43:00 - [11] Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 17:45:55 Fantastic read Seleene.. Bravo. Seems like the contract turned out to be a whole lot more than was bargained for.... Anyways.. another outstanding account of one of your campaigns.. ty. PS.. I was particularly impressed by how you had placeholders after posting each piece.. I read it as you posted the pre-written sections...
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Murukan Was a very good read. On the GM part though gus preston was working in hand with the gm doing trial stuff so it was weird for iac too I've no doubt that a LOT of what happened that morning was strange for EVERYONE, m8. Hence the 'Twillight Zone' reference. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Talthrus Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:48:00 - [13] Awesome post Sel! \o/ ----------------------
Helplessandlost Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:48:00 - [14] /me salutes... "Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:48:00 - [15] Very very very very GOOD READ. I demand more. If you stop ill start sending you isk to write more! :P -------------------------- Above post is my opinion only and does not represent my corp/alliance.
Mike Yagon Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:48:00 - [16] Hehe, this fight certainly has taught me a lot of things about life in 0.0. (I had only been in 0.0 for five days.) And although my wallet hates you guys, I thank you for the things this has taught me. Hats off! ------ In Carebear We Trust
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:48:00 - [17] Great read.
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:49:00 - [18] IAC is like ASCN in terms of k/d ratio? Ah I get it! MC did attack ASCN all along!!! King Tinfoil Hatter
Pandaaa	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:50:00 - [19] Edited by: Pandaaa on 11/10/2006 17:50:38 I HAVE A SLING !! why isnt my corp showing D:
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:51:00 - [20] Originally by: Pandaaa Edited by: Pandaaa on 11/10/2006 17:50:38 I HAVE A SLING !! why isnt my corp showing D: cause you're a noob! In rust we trust!!!

Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:52:00 - [21] Edited by: Raem Civrie on 11/10/2006 17:53:08 God bless you Seleene. You have united us like no other. Throughout this we were thoroughly impressed by MC's committment, and especially the initial blitzkrieg, but G7 is our home and always will be. We were one of the first small alliances to carve out a home in this way and nothing was going to take that away from us, and we are not alone as you have seen yourself. In fact, the outpouring of support came as a pleasant surprise to many of us. I'll never forget the moment where our gang was moving to G7 from F4 on sunday night, and was greeted by the 80-something Goons sitting at the MB gate led in part by Tyrrax Thorrk, or the realization that at least half of our forces in G7 were non-IAC allies. CVA in particular honoured their friendship, along with Axiom who turned up in force as opposed to the few ships we had apparently been promised. To this day I have no idea where the Goons came from, that was apparently Tyrrax's doing. As for GM interventions, they were... very strange, and lamentable even if in the end they favoured us. However, I do think you overestimated the effect of taking the Distillery; many of our members, their primary ships locked from them in the station, ran into Empire and fetched new combat ships, be it battleships, cruisers or frigates. The F4 outpost of course helped enormously in this regard, and it would've been harder for us to operate out of Litom than F4. It's not over though, more people are joining the party, and I suspect IAC will not rest until our space is safe enough for us to reopen it to passing neutrals. ---- All you do is bark, you never meow.
Hakera Anari Higard	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:56:00 - [22] Edited by: Hakera on 11/10/2006 17:56:42 Excellent read yet again - lets hope between you & and the others, you set a trend and standard for battle/war reporting from now on :) Kudos to both sides for slogging it out under such horrible server stability.
Swor Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:57:00 - [23] it was definitely interesting being shot at be friendlies more than hostiles heheh its too bad the node couldn't support a real fight that sunday a good fight all around, even if we did have more than 1/2 of our "allied" fleet itching to kill us
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:58:00 - [24] Originally by: Swor it was definitely interesting being shot at be friendlies more than hostiles heheh its too bad the node couldn't support a real fight that sunday a good fight all around, even if we did have more than 1/2 of our "allied" fleet itching to kill us eh it was rather odd waking up and seeing alliance chat. It's like wait haven't we been shooting these guys since we first met In rust we trust!!!
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Swor it was definitely interesting being shot at be friendlies more than hostiles heheh its too bad the node couldn't support a real fight that sunday a good fight all around, even if we did have more than 1/2 of our "allied" fleet itching to kill us eh it was rather odd waking up and seeing alliance chat. It's like wait haven't we been shooting these guys since we first met It's been a learning experience for all of us. ---- All you do is bark, you never meow.
jbob2000 Gallente The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:01:00 - [26] If what you say about the GMs actions are true, then that is total BS! I hope you have some kind of active petition about that issue, because in my opinion and based on what you've said, that shouldn't have happened.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:01:00 - [27] Another brilliant writeup boss. Now... what's next?
Charlie Crocodile Eldritch Storm	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:01:00 - [28] Best thread I've read in a long time! CC
maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:03:00 - [29] Nice read mate... Too bad you're leaving already ____________ The Priory Killboard
SATAN BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:08:00 - [30] I have to say that taking advantage of friendly standings to plan and impliment your invasion is severly cheap. You should have made sure that as soon as your contract was over that they set their standings to at least neutral. Does this post mean you are leaving IAC space?

Wrok Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:08:00 - [31] Awsome write up dude
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:14:00 - [32] Originally by: SATAN I have to say that taking advantage of friendly standings to plan and impliment your invasion is severly cheap. You should have made sure that as soon as your contract was over that they set their standings to at least neutral. Does this post mean you are leaving IAC space? At the end of the day its not our job to make sure people have reset their standings, however you can hardly convo someone when you plan to do a surprise attack on and say "hey guys you got us set to neutral right?" it might give the game away Nice read Sel as usual
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:16:00 - [33] Originally by: SATAN I have to say that taking advantage of friendly standings to plan and impliment your invasion is severly cheap. You should have made sure that as soon as your contract was over that they set their standings to at least neutral. Does this post mean you are leaving IAC space? Oversight on both ends. We weren't diligent at updating standings, they forgot to contact us to tell us that they had ended the UK contract (original reason behind positive standing). ---- All you do is bark, you never meow.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Raem Civrie Originally by: SATAN I have to say that taking advantage of friendly standings to plan and impliment your invasion is severly cheap. You should have made sure that as soon as your contract was over that they set their standings to at least neutral. Does this post mean you are leaving IAC space? Oversight on both ends. We weren't diligent at updating standings, they forgot to contact us to tell us that they had ended the UK contract (original reason behind positive standing). Agreed was a slight issue on both sides, but we have apologised many times and are sorry for the confusion
Alfarinn Amarr FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:19:00 - [35] Originally by: Seleene A good well thought out post with no smack *Alfarinn raises a glass Huzzah!
Draximus Cane Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:20:00 - [36] Originally by: SATAN I have to say that taking advantage of friendly standings to plan and impliment your invasion is severly cheap. You should have made sure that as soon as your contract was over that they set their standings to at least neutral. Does this post mean you are leaving IAC space? Awsome statigic mind you have! No wonder BE is so well respected -------------------------------------------------
Leo McGarry Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:20:00 - [37] You missed the most important thing Seleene. I had an outpost with my name on it :D Come on ladies - who wants a touch
Fredbob Draconis Navitas Aeterna Pure.	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:22:00 - [38] Thats a great writeup on a very interesting bit of conflict, with screenies to boot - woot ^_^ /me heads to mcfix for his lunch* ___________ ~Fredbob~
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:30:00 - [39] Originally by: Raem Civrie Edited by: Raem Civrie on 11/10/2006 17:53:08 God bless you Seleene. You have united us like no other. Throughout this we were thoroughly impressed by MC's committment, and especially the initial blitzkrieg, but G7 is our home and always will be. We were one of the first small alliances to carve out a home in this way and nothing was going to take that away from us, and we are not alone as you have seen yourself. In fact, the outpouring of support came as a pleasant surprise to many of us. I'll never forget the moment where our gang was moving to G7 from F4 on sunday night, and was greeted by the 80-something Goons sitting at the MB gate led in part by Tyrrax Thorrk, or the realization that at least half of our forces in G7 were non-IAC allies. CVA in particular honoured their friendship, along with Axiom who turned up in force as opposed to the few ships we had apparently been promised. To this day I have no idea where the Goons came from, that was apparently Tyrrax's doing. As for GM interventions, they were... very strange, and lamentable even if in the end they favoured us. However, I do think you overestimated the effect of taking the Distillery; many of our members, their primary ships locked from them in the station, ran into Empire and fetched new combat ships, be it battleships, cruisers or frigates. The F4 outpost of course helped enormously in this regard, and it would've been harder for us to operate out of Litom than F4. It's not over though, more people are joining the party, and I suspect IAC will not rest until our space is safe enough for us to reopen it to passing neutrals. That was some fairly insane action, while we dont feel we were treated fairly by the GM or the node drops its something thats happened and we will move on, who's to say when we lined up and prepared to warp in before the warp in that, that warp in woud not of resulted in our fleets destruction there are just too many unknowns. While it might of hosed our strategy but it doesn't change the fact that IAC fought hard to save G-7 and this is the way things have turned out.
riana maldun	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:30:00 - [40] nice read seleene sorry to hear about the server problems, I am convinced that is everyones number one enemy in battle right now

Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:32:00 - [41] I have to say, I've seen a lot of IAC taking this whle thing very well. Nice to see an opponent showing respect where respect is due, and not holding a grudge. WELCOME BACK MGRL!
LoxyRider Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:35:00 - [42] OUTSTANDING write up! I hope not just the people involved will read this but also new players to the game and those in empire. Look what you can get up to in Eve guys!
Cividari Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:36:00 - [43] Very nice post, nice to know what happened down there Also, is your contract over? Do you consider it successfull even though you didnt keep the outpost?
Weatherman Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:40:00 - [44] Great write up! It was tons of fun flying w/ MC! I was just logging on before the node crash fubared station ownership. I heard them talking about warping in on the fleet on TS and was like "oh crap oh crap I hope I log in fast enough to join them" then I heard "the node crashed." It was actually kind of funny from my persperctive but it ended up sucking.
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:43:00 - [45] Originally by: Weatherman Great write up! It was tons of fun flying w/ MC! I was just logging on before the node crash fubared station ownership. I heard them talking about warping in on the fleet on TS and was like "oh crap oh crap I hope I log in fast enough to join them" then I heard "the node crashed." It was actually kind of funny from my persperctive but it ended up sucking. You should've heard our TS after the first two or three node crashes. "Ok. Only battleships from A-M start shooting. WAIT WAIT WAIT LAG EVERYONE STOP DOING ANYTHING." 5 minutes pass "Ok, node's holding, let's try again". repeat ---- All you do is bark, you never meow.
Riazal AirHawk Alliance Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:44:00 - [46] Another great report by Seleene this is the type of thing i personally enjoy seing rather than the smackfests most other posts turn into. While they have a short term fun element Seleene's posts leave them trailing in the dust. Keep up the good posts Seleene and i hope you and others who enjoy writing such things get your wish for your own forum Riazal Ps looking for a forum sig :)
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:50:00 - [47] Originally by: jbob2000 If what you say about the GMs actions are true, then that is total BS! I hope you have some kind of active petition about that issue, because in my opinion and based on what you've said, that shouldn't have happened. Let me clear something up RIGHT NOW. The server node crashes were randomly warping people from safespots and POSs into random areas at any given time. Since McFix were already setup at gate and station camps we were getting slaughtered NOT by anything other than server hickups landing us on enemy ships. You can see that even McFix was getting the same issue but to a much lesser extent. That is why the GM intervened. Because EVER SINGLE LOSS that came from that was petitionable for both sides. Because McFix was in defense the GMs made a cease fire which was supposedly ONLY supposed to be for undocked ships. Now anyone that from IAC that took advantage from this should be petitioned as exploiting and that person should be banned for atleast 3 days imo for not folowing GM orders. The GMs acted in neutral in this but was willing to work with those in control at the time to keep the node in check. It should also be said that someone on the McFix side petitioned us for can exploiting and came in very abruptly and told us in local to stop doing something we WERE NOT doing. Then after we mass petitioned back GM Ginger and his other GMs online at the time came back in and said in Local that IAC WAS NOT EXPLOITING. So... lets not even question the GMs in this. Had McFix not blasted every random bug warp they could to fill their killboards there would not have been any GM intervention on a cease fire. Do not blame the GMs blame McFix for not working with the GMs. Gus Preston worked over 2 hours with GM Ginger to stabilize the node while we took back our Outpost. Without node crash scare ( which resets your outpost shields back to 100% ) we could have taken back the outpost within minutes. Because of node crashes it took hours. That means our forces kept dwindling and we couldn't keep McFix at bay forever. Finally McFix took back the outpost after our 6 hour futile effort of reclaiming and shield repping the outpost under GM node supervision. This whole war might have been futile for McFix because of node crashes. But lets not forget why they crashed. IAC has more friends ( even friendly enemies ) than people gave them credit for. I am damn proud to be IAC and I believe everyone in the EVE community can atleast be witness to a monumental achievement to overcome an outpost attack by MC. Cheers to all sides. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Tsun Caldari 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:53:00 - [48] thanks alot for shareing this, it has been an awesome read. as well nice to see that both sides can enjoy the fights and keep it clean, feels way more like an adult game then (and no, i did not mean certain locations in the gallente outpost ...) no Girls, no Schnaps, no Place to stay !
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:59:00 - [49] However you want to try and spin it, the fact still remains that even by docking at that station (not yours remember) you were exploiting the node crash. But I don't want to derail this thread by smacking your post so will leave it there, the servers were to blame, not the players.
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:59:00 - [50] very awesome writeup sel. bawk! Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler

Alfarinn Amarr FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:00:00 - [51] Thanks to all those who came to our aid, we couldn't have achieved this without you
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:02:00 - [52] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: jbob2000 If what you say about the GMs actions are true, then that is total BS! I hope you have some kind of active petition about that issue, because in my opinion and based on what you've said, that shouldn't have happened. Let me clear something up RIGHT NOW. The server node crashes were randomly warping people from safespots and POSs into random areas at any given time. Since McFix were already setup at gate and station camps we were getting slaughtered NOT by anything other than server hickups landing us on enemy ships. You can see that even McFix was getting the same issue but to a much lesser extent. That is why the GM intervened. Because EVER SINGLE LOSS that came from that was petitionable for both sides. Because McFix was in defense the GMs made a cease fire which was supposedly ONLY supposed to be for undocked ships. Now anyone that from IAC that took advantage from this should be petitioned as exploiting and that person should be banned for atleast 3 days imo for not folowing GM orders. The GMs acted in neutral in this but was willing to work with those in control at the time to keep the node in check. It should also be said that someone on the McFix side petitioned us for can exploiting and came in very abruptly and told us in local to stop doing something we WERE NOT doing. Then after we mass petitioned back GM Ginger and his other GMs online at the time came back in and said in Local that IAC WAS NOT EXPLOITING. So... lets not even question the GMs in this. Had McFix not blasted every random bug warp they could to fill their killboards there would not have been any GM intervention on a cease fire. Do not blame the GMs blame McFix for not working with the GMs. Gus Preston worked over 2 hours with GM Ginger to stabilize the node while we took back our Outpost. Without node crash scare ( which resets your outpost shields back to 100% ) we could have taken back the outpost within minutes. Because of node crashes it took hours. That means our forces kept dwindling and we couldn't keep McFix at bay forever. Finally McFix took back the outpost after our 6 hour futile effort of reclaiming and shield repping the outpost under GM node supervision. This whole war might have been futile for McFix because of node crashes. But lets not forget why they crashed. IAC has more friends ( even friendly enemies ) than people gave them credit for. I am damn proud to be IAC and I believe everyone in the EVE community can atleast be witness to a monumental achievement to overcome an outpost attack by MC. Cheers to all sides. If you want to talk about it there is a thread on the mc forums (you need to reg an account). I dont know if this thread is the place for it and i dont know if this type of discussion is really allowed in here.
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:08:00 - [53] Very good read. Nice to see some admit defeat publically and describe the siege etc. So does that mean the contract ended? or will you launch second attack? ------------------ yay, the Deimos has been saved!
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:13:00 - [54] Originally by: Grimster However you want to try and spin it, the fact still remains that even by docking at that station (not yours remember) you were exploiting the node crash . But I don't want to derail this thread by smacking your post so will leave it there, the servers were to blame, not the players. Grim says it all, TBH. Feel free to debate your point of view in the other thread, please. Or, even better, write up your own version. I will say this though - while we probably did get a few kills due to the node crash, there really were not that many. We had experience with this from a couple weeks ago and managed to pull our gang back together fairly quickly, so that probably had something to do with it as well. At the end of the day, it was the code that failed us all. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:28:00 - [55] Edited by: Firane on 11/10/2006 19:33:39 Great thread Seleene. Its too bad this had to come to a premature finish due to the horrible node and GM actions though. -----------
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:39:00 - [56] Mmmm...sexy. I got a particular trinket that will hold a special place in my heart while in G-7. Also, the first node crash left me with serious anger management issues. I believe it was Strad who said, "This is the kind of fight you guys are going to brag about for weeks." We all believed it. We were psyched up and ready to kick some ass, then kerplunk. Sadness. Thanks to IAC for not accusing us of haxxsploiting for being able to get ourselves back into a coherent gang quickly after the crash. There was some smack, but I think most of us (myself at least) were really the most ****ed about was the state of the servers. Usually I get that aggression out via pewpewpew. GF. I reiterate that, since we missed our giant fight of coolness, coolest fight of the weekend, imo, goes to the carrier supported camp-busting. That was serious lol material. What witless noob volunteered to sit still for 10min while we jumped 4 carriers into the camp? Farjung FanBois, Charter Member
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:42:00 - [57] Great write-up. The things you mention about GM's and Nodes are the main reason I don't bother playing much at the moment, aside from RL stuff. Its all rather depressing, really.
BoinKlasik Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:44:00 - [58] sounds....fun? Mebbe? doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:44:00 - [59] Originally by: Crovan Mmmm...sexy. I got a particular trinket that will hold a special place in my heart while in G-7. Also, the first node crash left me with serious anger management issues. I believe it was Strad who said, "This is the kind of fight you guys are going to brag about for weeks." We all believed it. We were psyched up and ready to kick some ass, then kerplunk. Sadness. Thanks to IAC for not accusing us of haxxsploiting for being able to get ourselves back into a coherent gang quickly after the crash. There was some smack, but I think most of us (myself at least) were really the most **ed about was the state of the servers. Usually I get that aggression out via pewpewpew. GF. I reiterate that, since we missed our giant fight of coolness, coolest fight of the weekend, imo, goes to the carrier supported camp-busting. That was serious lol material. What witless noob volunteered to sit still for 10min while we jumped 4 carriers into the camp? :) No ** man, that was definitely one of the most fun fights for me to command, I didn't fire a single shot that whole fight as I was cowering like a scared dog in my Buzzard. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:50:00 - [60] Great write-up, mirrors a lot of what I experienced _______________________________________________

hawkeiz	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:55:00 - [61] Thank you Seleene for that awesome right up. I was there fighting (on the iac side of course) on numerous occasions, but often was unclear how we got where we got. So thanks for taking the time putting that together with screenshots and all. The McFix gang proved to be a class act and awesome fighters. Long live IAC.
Smalum Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:57:00 - [62] Thanks for the fights guys! Too bad the server ****** it all up. Let's do it again another time :D Recruitment Post
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:58:00 - [63] Very nice write up . Originally by: Dortock IAC is like ASCN in terms of k/d ratio? Ah I get it! MC did attack ASCN all along!!! What I'm about to say should not be viewed as a discredit to FIX/MC. K/D ratio are not an accurate sign of who had the best tatics, because tech 2 ammo can cause a massive rift between gangs. If you notice this screen shot you will see what IAC's major problem was. The entire enemy fleet was in range and a very small portion of the IAC fleet was in firing range. All of this will change when Rokh comes out though . "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
Renox Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:02:00 - [64] very nicely written! Kepp em coming TheJay > grrr slow stupid garlic eating surrender monkeys
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:07:00 - [65] Nice write up....it was fun. Now for the next waive....I'd love to know who really is behind it all....unless there is a post on that I havent' seen yet...the contractor? Pity them if we find out...
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:07:00 - [66] Awesome awesome write up. Very well written, please keep doing them. And a big thankyou to IAC, MC, FIX and everyone else for keeping this thread largely good natured and civil, and allowing everyone to get some decently balanced views of the events without smack and lame chest beating or whatever, unlike that other little conflict going on atm. Finally to MC: Provided you can comment at all, what does you employer say about all of this? We're the contract objectives fulfilled, or was the emplyer satisfied that you at least tried as hard as you could to do so? I assume you wont tell us but what were the objectives? Did you get paid? etc etc And finally finally if any of that doesn't make sense, appologies as I'm not entirely sober. - - - - - - - - - - Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
BlackHorizon Caldari Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:07:00 - [67] Originally by: Tribunal Very nice write up . Originally by: Dortock IAC is like ASCN in terms of k/d ratio? Ah I get it! MC did attack ASCN all along!!! What I'm about to say should not be viewed as a discredit to FIX/MC. K/D ratio are not an accurate sign of who had the best tatics, because tech 2 ammo can cause a massive rift between gangs. If you notice this screen shot you will see what IAC's major problem was. The entire enemy fleet was in range and a very small portion of the IAC fleet was in firing range. All of this will change when Rokh comes out though . Not of MC's losses have been posted. Seleene, expect to be contacted DHB Foo. We expect payment, as promised, for killmails.
Skooney Gallente Universal Agencies Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:09:00 - [68] Seleene - That has to be the best thing I have ever read on the EVE-O forums. Excellent! I look forward to reading more of your war chronicles. Absolutely Fantastic! <salute> Regards, Skooney Universal Agencies www.rlelectric.ca/ua.htm
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:11:00 - [69] Originally by: Zhaine And a big thankyou to IAC, MC, FIX and everyone else for keeping this thread largely good natured and civil, and allowing everyone to get some decently balanced views of the events without smack and lame chest beating or whatever, unlike that other little conflict going on atm. The only entity in need of smacktalk is the server. -----------
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:12:00 - [70] Originally by: BlackHorizon Originally by: Tribunal Very nice write up . Originally by: Dortock IAC is like ASCN in terms of k/d ratio? Ah I get it! MC did attack ASCN all along!!! What I'm about to say should not be viewed as a discredit to FIX/MC. K/D ratio are not an accurate sign of who had the best tatics, because tech 2 ammo can cause a massive rift between gangs. If you notice this screen shot you will see what IAC's major problem was. The entire enemy fleet was in range and a very small portion of the IAC fleet was in firing range. All of this will change when Rokh comes out though . Not of MC's losses have been posted. Seleene, expect to be contacted DHB Foo. We expect payment, as promised, for killmails. As usual, if within 24 (or 72? I forget) hours of a fight our lossmails haven't been posted, you get cookies and 5 mil isk! But, we have to confirm them. A RA guy mailed me today and said he had 7 unposted lossmails, but he was looking the wrong way; I found 5 of the 7, so he only gets 10 mil. _______________________________________________

Matrix Aran Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:14:00 - [71] Another great write-up, and i truely hope more people continue this trend. For many reasons I can't be dedicated to eve enough to join many 0.0 groups (Otto did try to badger me into it a while back). So for people like me its realy great being able to read these stories, which I find more enjoyable than just a fraps montage that looks like the last fraps montage from that other alliance last week. I really don't want to stray off my point but I just want to add my 2 cents and say that what that GM did was bad. Period. I could think of 3 better ways to handle that situation without resorting to moving IAC wherever they wanted to go. Yes the lag, the node, all bad, but he could have just docked everyone in local in the station and told anyone who decided to undock did so at thier own risk. Anyhow that's my rant done. I hope to see many more of these stories from you Seleene. ----
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:17:00 - [72] An astonoshing good read. I'm very happy to tell you seleen you could sell this stuff for isk :p or even real money. Anyway keep it up. Also MOST of the IAC pilots have taken his really well and have shown alot of respect. So props to IAC too.
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:20:00 - [73] Originally by: Sivona If you want to talk about it there is a thread on the mc forums (you need to reg an account). I dont know if this thread is the place for it and i dont know if this type of discussion is really allowed in here. This whole thread spins the GMs actions to give IAC an advantage. In fact this is incorrect and my words are more than relavent since now people seem to think the GMs gave us freebees. McFix burgers must come with a side order of paranoia. I think you really need to evaluate the tone of the McFix view point on the GMs its really disgusting to me. You have a lot of tension built up that just doesn't make sense when you look at it from what they were trying to accomplish and what rules they have to follow. Especially when we felt the brunt of GM intervention more than once. You just got overwelmed by our passion to defend and yes the node couldn't hold it. Had the fight been able to reach epic proportions it would have certainly become lore of EVE which is what we all play the game for. Anyways it was huge learning experience for all. A lot of people that were previously afraid to loose ships obviously are not new to that feeling anymore. Cheers, Does this mean the contract is over? I haven't read an official statement yet. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Alfarinn Amarr FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:29:00 - [74] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Does this mean the contract is over? I haven't read an official statement yet. *Alfarinn dons his tin-foil hat It's been speculated that they'll be back this weekend fighting along side KIA Seleene hasn't said the contract is over so who-knows, only time will tell.
Altai Saker Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:33:00 - [75] I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted...
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:39:00 - [76] Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:45:00 - [77] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. -----------
tigress Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:45:00 - [78] As acting president of the IAC I thank you for a very good read :). Also, this made the IAC come oh so much closer, I thank you for that too. I am not fully informed about what exactly happened that sunday with the GM, and frankly it's done and over with right now. Much respect from all sides as there was little smack and more tensions than anything. I slept very bad mind you ;).
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:46:00 - [79] Originally by: Firane Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining ****head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Imode Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:48:00 - [80] Edited by: Imode on 11/10/2006 20:49:18 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Firane Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining ****head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Sheesh, take it easy. Killboards are only e-peen contests anyway. If you killed them, you killed them. Just because the rest of the world can't see the killmails doesn't mean they didn't happen. ____________________________ Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes

Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:53:00 - [81] Edited by: Firane on 11/10/2006 20:52:57 Originally by: Kaylana Syi I am not whining ****head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Just as I was gaining alot of respect for IAC pilots... -----------
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:55:00 - [82] Originally by: Imode Edited by: Imode on 11/10/2006 20:49:18 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Firane Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining ****head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Sheesh, take it easy. Killboards are only e-peen contests anyway. If you killed them, you killed them. Just because the rest of the world can't see the killmails doesn't mean they didn't happen. Don't call me a whiner then. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
tigress Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:58:00 - [83] Hey hey Kaylana, sup? Lets take some beers instead eh? ;)
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:00:00 - [84] The GM's are either very biased or retarded. If your account of the events are true...one reason why I stay far away from pos's and sov. It's all so buggy that the GM's almost always get involved, and they almost always make decisions that make no sense... Shamis
Haargoth Agamar Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:02:00 - [85] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Imode Edited by: Imode on 11/10/2006 20:49:18 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Firane Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining ****head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Sheesh, take it easy. Killboards are only e-peen contests anyway. If you killed them, you killed them. Just because the rest of the world can't see the killmails doesn't mean they didn't happen. Don't call me a whiner then. Did Imode call you a whiner? No, so stfu.
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:11:00 - [86] I've seen alot of complaining about KB's being wrong the past week or so. Everyone knows what to do in this case, and no one does it, and then posts here instead. My comment should probably be directed at all of the people who wouldn't follow the procedure, and is, of course, my personal onpinion, not that of FIX necessarily. But seriously, if you have a complaint about KB's, posting here isn't going to do any good. -----------
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:13:00 - [87] Edited by: Murukan on 11/10/2006 21:13:58 Originally by: Haargoth Agamar Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Imode Edited by: Imode on 11/10/2006 20:49:18 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Firane Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining **head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Sheesh, take it easy. Killboards are only e-peen contests anyway. If you killed them, you killed them. Just because the rest of the world can't see the killmails doesn't mean they didn't happen. Don't call me a whiner then. Did Imode call you a whiner? No, so stfu. woot pretty boxes! And Firane really who cares if FiX respects them lol, what will they do call on daddy BoB if things go wrong? In rust we trust!!!**
Schnuur	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:21:00 - [88] Edited by: Schnuur on 11/10/2006 21:22:06 Selene -this is new journalism on the Forums - Tom Wolfe like - love your approach to what happend - cudos mate. Edit: Wolf to Wolfe
oDDiTy V2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:23:00 - [89] Sounds like fun :D
MKingery FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:26:00 - [90] i think what everybody forgets to put weight on is the f4 outpost. it had been up for what... a day? this outpost was in place to act as our forward guard. it guards a choke point and only entrance into our core system and as such, all of our pvpers had already for the most part, moved their combat hangers into it. i am convinced that without this station we would have lost. with our pvp oriented forces behind the siege we could do things offensively we couldn't have dreamed of doing otherwise. other than that, there is little mention of the fix gatecamp that was broken up on friday. i know that after we broke up fix, we held g7, mb and wlar the remaining few hours until downtime, and it was during this time that a dozen or more dread carrier jumps were made, as well as the rest of the hangers were emptied. many a faction battle ship traveled to safer soil that night :D even being in iac, i hadn't heard about gm's letting us undock until just now. i know we had lots of people on vent saying "tell me when your on the station because i don't know where my ship will be when i log in". you always spin the side you know i guess. i know many of our pilots were convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was YOU who were getting all the unfair advantages and the like until ginger sorted it out. essentially, its always easier to see how your side is getting the shaft. this is my first invasion i have experienced in eve. its an odd thing being civil and light hearted as everything you have worked for is being destroyed. people get fired up and its just natural to snowball that emotion. getting invaded by people you never have heard of was kinda a crappy feeling. most of who we fight/raid in iac share a light-heartedness about the exchange of fire, and than all the sudden our entire alliance is threatened by somebody we've never seen for a reason we've never heard of, paid for by somebody we don't know for reasons that are beyond us. if only you would have come in a 70/30 mix of asteroids and pvp ships... than you would have experienced the awesome wrath of iac :D

Deco Parish The Imperial Commonwealth Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:26:00 - [91] Awesome read :)
maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:38:00 - [92] Edited by: maGz on 11/10/2006 21:38:31 Originally by: Haargoth Agamar Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Imode Edited by: Imode on 11/10/2006 20:49:18 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Firane Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining ****head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Sheesh, take it easy. Killboards are only e-peen contests anyway. If you killed them, you killed them. Just because the rest of the world can't see the killmails doesn't mean they didn't happen. Don't call me a whiner then. Did Imode call you a whiner? No, so stfu. The thread was going so well and then you came by... you've gotten some bad habbits from all your time on the lap of the bobbits (no offense meant to BoB, only to FIX) ____________ The Priory Killboard
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:47:00 - [93] pff magz you need to be quicker!! I already flamed fix for being useless lapdogs on the previous page! In rust we trust!!!
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:59:00 - [94] Seleene, great post and I thank you for writing it. I know this stuff takes time. There is an obvious bias and spin to your side, including the claims regarding GM intervention which I refuse to get involved in. All I will say is that BOTH sides benefitted and also suffered in some way from the GM's. What I do want to say is, this has been an extremely enlightening experience for IAC and one of the best alliance forging exercises anyone could ask for. Our long standing and also recently recruited corps have really stood tall, wearing the IAC badge proudly. Massive thanks to our FC's also, they served us well and did us all proud. It's great to see an entire alliance of pilots login and immediately ask where they can all help with the effort. Similarly seeing those at work are filling our forums with requests for updates, psycing up the for the night ahead! IAC owes a massive deal of thanks to our friends (and enemies ) who have stood by us throughout this McFIX invasion. On behalf of all our pilots and IAC alliance leadership thanks goto CVA, AXE, 187, SNIGG, GoonSwarm and also the smaller corps who also assisted. Additionally, what has been most overwhelming is the moral support offered by members of the EVE community. Corps which have killed IAC pilots daily, or have done in the past offering verbal support and even troops has been admirable. Yesterday, I re-read the entire 'Operation Prohibition' thread and I saw in the early days many simply wrote us off. Knowing the true timeline of events I could see the tone of the thread changing from both those involved along with that of the onlookers. A message to MC - You guys are awesome pilots and your skills and experience are obviously the reason why you are so successful. In the future though, I feel that more and more of your operations will be like this recent one with IAC. It's becoming obvious the greater EVE community is defiant in the face of overwhelming adversity and the establishment that you and others have created. The entire political landscape of EVE is changing immensely with all the intertwined conflict. When you came to battle with an Alliance that is so universally disliked, it also became significantly easier for us and others to gain the support. Couple that with the fact this was fought on our terms (except friday), and not yours made it all the more sweeter. A message to FIX - To be brutally honest, you were the thorn in MC's side. This is purely a political standpoint and something that made it easier and easier for us to rally troops. To resolve this problem, could be as simple as changing your name. That said, its always great fun to fight the FIX pilots, whom have given IAC plenty of enjoyment for the last few months. You are a little closer to our league skill and experience wise, but you certainly show that you're a formidable force to recon with. A message to the Contractor - There's about 10,000 theories as to whom has asked for IAC to be hit, none of which we're particularly keen on actioning. We will go on life as normal protecting our assets, that of our friends and also neutrals in our space. All I can say to you is I hope you got what you wanted from all this - you have only made us stronger. To EVE/CPP - What a game. but this is the future of battles in EVE. Empires have been built, now they are to be torn apart on epic scales. I do hope that the time we spent trying to work out station takedown lag/node crashes is valuable and that it can be improved for all of us. In summary, we're all down on sleep but all absolutely LOVED every minute of this. I thought erecting an outpost or two was hard, this is even more rewarding! It's not over yet though, we've still got KIA and their buddies to deal with - which we're looking forward to. Not to mention we're waiting for MC to return to finish the job. One last comment .... history repeats itself, prohibition will never work
Antiochus Laetus Technology Acquisition Collective Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:06:00 - [95] Originally by: Raem Civrie Originally by: Weatherman Great write up! It was tons of fun flying w/ MC! I was just logging on before the node crash fubared station ownership. I heard them talking about warping in on the fleet on TS and was like "oh crap oh crap I hope I log in fast enough to join them" then I heard "the node crashed." It was actually kind of funny from my persperctive but it ended up sucking. You should've heard our TS after the first two or three node crashes. "Ok. Only battleships from A-M start shooting. WAIT WAIT WAIT LAG EVERYONE STOP DOING ANYTHING." 5 minutes pass "Ok, node's holding, let's try again". repeat QFT. Well written Seleene Its kinda cool that I was there for those major battles, never loss my little kessie. This event has drawn us together, people who had previously been empire dwellers, took a risk and ran the channels to g7. Including me, I usually stay in empire (trying to get that shiny new navy raven), but this needed my attention. I really need a signature.
maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:11:00 - [96] Originally by: Murukan pff magz you need to be quicker!! I already flamed fix for being useless lapdogs on the previous page! I'm cooler tho ____________ The Priory Killboard
Red Horseman Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:21:00 - [97] GF's all around, and thanks for giving us time to resupply before you hit us again this weekend. Kinda interesting to have all those capital ships flying around without ONE of them dying... although I came close to losing an archon when two hours after a node crash I was teleported to the heavily camped station. I was all ready to jump out so I escaped, but I still peed a little. Here's looking forward to our next fight. Cheers!
Wraithstorm Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:35:00 - [98] The most interesting read Ive had in a longtime on any level. I Thank you Seleene for this detailed account of events in the area.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:38:00 - [99] Excellent writeup Seleene I think the node-crashes are the primary reason you got so many kills, the first one that hit us with 373 in local had the unfortunate side-effect of lagging the system out to such an extent that people were random warped repeatedly, either to safespots, the outpost or gates, getting a great deal of people killed by MC forces which were assembled on the outpost / gate whereas our regathering was supposed to be taking place at a POS. Without it we would've been able to both prevent you from successfully taking on any of our POS coming out of reinforced and probably managed to take outpost a lot earlier, and stop you from retaking it. CVA forces left entirely shortly after node crash due to the breakdown in organization and communication, while all our forces could do was die/log off since the system kept random warping us until downtime. Some of our newbies believed this was MC GMs /tring them to their deaths (I lucked out and all 10 of my random warps were to a safespot, not to an McFIX camp). In hindsight we should probly have had everyone move to 6-MM to regroup, but returning to G-7W would've been futile anyway with the system as FUBAR as it was. The McFIX attack took us entirely by surprise and pretty much totally unprepared, our F4R outpost had not been stocked with anything, (some pvpers had moved their stuff there, but replacement ships and mods were entirely lacking). So we pretty much decided not to worry about responding until the first POS came out of reinforced, at which point we intended to slaughter MC's dreads, zerg-style We actually ended up with way more people than I had really planned for which had the unfortunate effect of preventing McFIX from fielding anything juicy for us to kill. I guess the inadequate server / initially massive defence force broke your morale so you only put up a token effort to take any of the POS out once your first effort failed.. Quite disappointing since we never got to put into play our planned (hilarious) anti-dread defence tactics. Very fun fighting FIX, too few fights with MC for my tastes. Congratulations IAC on being MC's first failure at meeting initial contract objectives. Oh and gg FIX for hiring MC, didn't make much sense until Seleene mentioned that you guys had planned all this before ASCN/BoB started. You can stop pretending you got hired too now, the truth is out. http://eve.klaki.net/
nicad	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:41:00 - [100] HA HA last time i seen mc beat was foe vs dont get 2*****ey u fighting alot off the same guys gl mc u need it

Stradivarious Minmatar Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:41:00 - [101] Originally by: Red Horseman GF's all around, and thanks for giving us time to resupply before you hit us again this weekend. Kinda interesting to have all those capital ships flying around without ONE of them dying... although I came close to losing an archon when two hours after a node crash I was teleported to the heavily camped station. I was all ready to jump out so I escaped, but I still peed a little. Here's looking forward to our next fight. Cheers! I was 12km from you when you came out of warp m8, started locking and you disappeared with the jump tunnel graphic.... Did a double take and laughed to myself... lucky bastard :P Sure, bring a knife to a gunfight.
senz Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:43:00 - [102] Originally by: Crovan I reiterate that, since we missed our giant fight of coolness, coolest fight of the weekend, imo, goes to the carrier supported camp-busting. That was serious lol material. What witless noob volunteered to sit still for 10min while we jumped 4 carriers into the camp? i was in that fight and actually you brought the carriers in about 1-2minutes into the fight.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:48:00 - [103] Originally by: nicad HA HA last time i seen mc beat was foe vs dont get 2*****ey u fighting alot off the same guys gl mc u need it /me does a double-take... We got beat? How? When? Did I miss it? OMG I feel so dirty. Signature removed - Lack of Eve related content.Laurelin
maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:54:00 - [104] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: nicad HA HA last time i seen mc beat was foe vs dont get 2*****ey u fighting alot off the same guys gl mc u need it /me does a double-take... We got beat? How? When? Did I miss it? OMG I feel so dirty. Oh it was just a roadtrip... I see Sorry had to write it ____________ The Priory Killboard
Carth Jared Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:58:00 - [105] Originally by: senz Originally by: Crovan I reiterate that, since we missed our giant fight of coolness, coolest fight of the weekend, imo, goes to the carrier supported camp-busting. That was serious lol material. What witless noob volunteered to sit still for 10min while we jumped 4 carriers into the camp? i was in that fight and actually you brought the carriers in about 1-2minutes into the fight. Think hes talking about the guy being stuck in the cyno mate ;)
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:02:00 - [106] Edited by: Crovan on 11/10/2006 23:04:24 Originally by: senz Originally by: Crovan I reiterate that, since we missed our giant fight of coolness, coolest fight of the weekend, imo, goes to the carrier supported camp-busting. That was serious lol material. What witless noob volunteered to sit still for 10min while we jumped 4 carriers into the camp? i was in that fight and actually you brought the carriers in about 1-2minutes into the fight. Que? Never dropped a cyno, have ye ;) The joke was that I drew the short straw and carried the cyno, so was completely immobile for 10 minutes. Quote: I guess the inadequate server / initially massive defence force broke your morale so you only put up a token effort to take any of the POS out once your first effort failed. Yes. Either that or the fact that we are not fraggin idiots that would log dreads into node-crash heaven. Morale? Not by the laughing on TS, m8. Farjung FanBois, Charter Member
NocturnalDeath Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:02:00 - [107] Nice write-up Seleene. They are always informational and entertaining. GM's have an impossible job. What seemed to be barely touched upon in this thread, is that everytime the node crashed (5x) IAC forces were warped FROM random safespots TO THE HOSTILE CAMPED STATION. Ventrillo was insane, half the fleet didn't want to log back in again because of reports of ships sitting at a friendly POS now being warped to a hostile station upon login. IE the reason for the GM imposed cease-fire. Also, G-7 system was completely borked after the node crashes. I was sitting at a safe ALONE listening to vent, and reading the forums, when all of a sudden I emergency warp, and then I warp back to the safe I was at all without me touching anything. At one point the complex in system completely disappeared. Players on vent were saying that they had warped to friendly POS from a safe spot, only to end up at the hostile station! Sometimes it seemed up was down, and right was left! Talk about tin-foil hattery! Some would have bet the farm that MC=GM's :P I wouldn't have wanted to be in GM's shoes trying to come up with a 'fair' solution. Once we did get McFix off the station, we spent the next 4-6 hours?? shooting at the shields, if more than half our fleet shot the shields for more than 3 minutes straight the node would start lagging badly and we would cease-fire for 5 minutes at a time. At one point the GM's and Devs were instructing our FC to only fire certain types of ammo at the station, we did live server load testing until we regained control of the station. However, by then all our friends and force had went to sleep and MC came back, broke our camp, and retook the station. MC has taught IAC some very valuable lessons in system defense. MC has also been the fire that forged together IAC members and corporations. Our FC's did an awesome job, especially Gus Preston on the night of hell. On a side note, SasRipper has got to be one of the best, and most entertaining FC's I ever had the pleasure to fly under (back in the day), he should do an FC training class.
SpoolX Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:14:00 - [108] Very Good Read! I must say, as much as I hated losing ships, it was well worth it, the battles were fun, and we all learned alot. I would much rather lose a ship to a campaign such as this, opposed to the stupid cloaker pirates in RNF /cheers all Spoolx
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:21:00 - [109] I am just laughing my ass off at some of the stories you IAC guys are telling! I knew that things had to be bad for both sides. I could only relate what it looked like from our end, of course. But, wow. People just really do not understand what it's like to be in a situation like this until they have lived it. There really is nothing quite like a node drop or three, is there? The Twillight Zone, indeed! - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:23:00 - [110] Originally by: Seleene I am just laughing my ass off at some of the stories you IAC guys are telling! I knew that things had to be bad for both sides. I could only relate what it looked like from our end, of course. But, wow. People just really do not understand what it's like to be in a situation like this until they have lived it. There really is nothing quite like a node drop or three, is there? The Twillight Zone, indeed! I cant say I miss the node drops, having to kill a pos three times because the shields reset was no fun! Now Recruiting

senz Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:33:00 - [111] Originally by: Carth Jared Think hes talking about the guy being stuck in the cyno mate ;) oops
Archa Caldari United Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:23:00 - [112] very good read. This sure is interesting for a by-stander. Awesome that MC again showed so much strenght. And showed delicate planning. But it is even more amazing that IAC survived the invasion. Great results for both parties. Good luck in the future. greets archa
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:24:00 - [113] Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 12/10/2006 00:25:36 Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 12/10/2006 00:25:01 Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 12/10/2006 00:24:28 Originally by: Haargoth Agamar It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining **head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Quote:** Sheesh, take it easy. Killboards are only e-peen contests anyway. If you killed them, you killed them. Just because the rest of the world can't see the killmails doesn't mean they didn't happen. Don't call me a whiner then. Did Imode call you a whiner? No, so stfu. Its a shame about Fix; you guys used to be proud and now you're just loud. edit : gah forum quote box wars ftl... just gonna leave it like this Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:26:00 - [114] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 17:30:40 We knew IAC was going to bring friends into this... we just didn't expect how many! IAC, CVA, S***rdly, AXE, D2... Hell, even a few Goons showed up! Local peaked in G-7 at over four hundred people. The node crashed five times**. It didn't stop Stradivarious from sniping the hell out of several ships in his Machariel, and our FC's managed to get a few ganks on the board between node crashes but for the most part, we did the only thing we could: we watched and waited. Actually we never brought in D2, D2 have been happily camping away around 9koe and occasionally getting busted up so we could get CVA through. We have been and still are hostile to D2.
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:33:00 - [115] Originally by: Seleene I am just laughing my ass off at some of the stories you IAC guys are telling! I knew that things had to be bad for both sides. I could only relate what it looked like from our end, of course. But, wow. People just really do not understand what it's like to be in a situation like this until they have lived it. There really is nothing quite like a node drop or three, is there? The Twillight Zone, indeed! No there isn't. But if I told you of the stupidity some of our pilots displayed during ops they shouldn't ever have happened... you'd laugh your ass off. The best description of this fight was good show of capital power by MC. Good show of T2 capable pilots by FIX. GM intervention that worked for both sides ( don't forget the GMs scooping your fighters and giving them back to you while I still have a petition out for 5 lost fighters outstanding!!! ) and the basic truth of McFix biting off more than they can chew. Maybe you should create a McFix veggie burger Still no hard feelings except and it was fun when it wasn't broken. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Rukaz Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:35:00 - [116] Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Actually we never brought in D2, D2 have been happily camping away around 9koe and occasionally getting busted up so we could get CVA through. We have been and still are hostile to D2. Sels just saying they showed up mate, thats all.
Gus Preston Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:45:00 - [117] so eh...had to get help from KIA? hmm...
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:45:00 - [118] Originally by: Rukaz Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Actually we never brought in D2, D2 have been happily camping away around 9koe and occasionally getting busted up so we could get CVA through. We have been and still are hostile to D2. Sels just saying they showed up mate, thats all. Too bad they showed up to kill us Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Rasitiln Minmatar SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:49:00 - [119] Wish the blobs would go away curse is really laggy atm --------
Entilzah Valen Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:56:00 - [120] Originally by: Gus Preston so eh...had to get help from KIA? hmm... Well do you think if really matters if someone wants you dead? Continue to postulate, your just wasting your time though. __________________

Sovy Kurosei Amarr Therianthropic Technologies	Posted - 2006.10.12 01:17:00 - [121] Another nice after action report Seleene. Too bad to hear the node dropping on you all those times. ___________________
Denrace Amarr Psykotic Dreams Barracudas.	Posted - 2006.10.12 01:50:00 - [122] Truly excellent read. One of the best reads on the forums, in fact. Shame about the unfair GM decisions and node crashes... Much respect to all parties involved! Den ________________________________________
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 02:02:00 - [123] ROFL! That was IMSIL's Freighter/Dread production POS. No idea if they ever got that thing cooking cap ships. Anyway, I don't see any hardners in that screeny..... shrug Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
Doppleganger Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 02:18:00 - [124] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Oh and gg FIX for hiring MC, didn't make much sense until Seleene mentioned that you guys had planned all this before ASCN/BoB started. You can stop pretending you got hired too now, the truth is out. Ok if you wish you can blame me as hiring MC with my own personal isk.... since you will spin this anyway you want on who their employers are and still not have a clue. So for the tinfoil hat legions I will make just as good of target.
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 02:23:00 - [125] Originally by: AKULA UrQuan ROFL! That was IMSIL's Freighter/Dread production POS. No idea if they ever got that thing cooking cap ships. Anyway, I don't see any hardners in that screeny..... shrug No stront either...woops
Droewa Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 02:27:00 - [126] Edited by: Droewa on 12/10/2006 02:29:20 great read, hats off to IAC it's back to hunting noob corp complex runners in querious for me.
Cmdr Yamamoto	Posted - 2006.10.12 02:31:00 - [127] Is it just me or did MC just go thru a very long and round about way of saying they stopped the campaign and did not finish the job? If im wrong, i apologize. To clarify, what was the original goal of the contract, and did you met that goal?
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 02:59:00 - [128] .... as I said, we're waiting for MC to head back. There were 11 MC freighters and COUNTLESS Dreads/Carriers in the Litom/Doril solarsystems a few hours ago. Sadly, this doesn't seem to be close from over.....
valhallan Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 03:10:00 - [129] First off, great post Seleene, you have done a fine job of capturing an important part of EVE history. There are a few inconsistances (not surprising given how tired everyone was after last week). Those small inconsistnacies have led to some pretty serious misinterpretations so I will attempt to correct them...if that is at all possible on this forum. Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Excellent writeup Seleene Oh and gg FIX for hiring MC, didn't make much sense until Seleene mentioned that you guys had planned all this before ASCN/BoB started. You can stop pretending you got hired too now, the truth is out. I am not quite sure how Tyrrax has confused planned with hired...but I read the first of your paragraphs again and the intro paragraphs muddy the time line a bit. From my foxhole, it looked something like this. For many months now, FIX has enjoyed reading some of the wild speculation on the nature of the relationships between BOB and MC and BOB and FIX. While I have intimate knowledge of the later, I was relatively uniformed on the former. The simple fact is that FIX and MC have never fought either for or against each other that I can recall, and BOB has virtually no interest in our foreign policy as long as it does not interfere with our base agreement. So it has been with great ammusement that we have both watched some of the more creative conspiracy theories. It was entertaining up until the point that CYVOK chose, without contacting either Seleene or Myself" to arbitrarily link our policies to BOB and drop our standings, announce his new toy, and spark a conflict with BOB that he surely new would be the response when he unvieled a titan. So having been implicated in a conspiracy, Seleene approached FIX about the posibilty of creating a real relationship to match the non-existant one that we were both suffering the effects of. He was in the middle of planning the op against IAC, FIX has not had a NAP with IAC and we have a history of raiding each other, so there was no real conflict of interest. For FIX it proved an interesting opportunity. The chance to fly along MC seemed like a good one to us, and given the uncertainty in the world its more than a bit comforting to know that our potential enemies were not hiring them! We dont often get the opportunity to play "away games" as we have historically had limited expansionistic objectives. And lets be serious folks....that crappy part of space is not where I would choose to inject my allience into...the notion that FIX contracted to actually sieze the stations and insert themselves in the middle of the remenants of all thier former enemies is nothing short of absurd and short sighted. At any rate, FIX took the opportunity to subcontract against IAC....our service in the siege in exchange for services that have nothing to do with the events of this weekend. While the overall objectives of the weekend fell short, FIXs objectives were more than met. FIX would like to congratulate IAC for thier sucessfull defense. FIX has more than once seen the distruction of all we have worked for and understands the desprate hour when you have to look to your left and right flank for a friend. There is no shame in doing what you have to do to survive....lord knows there are enough truly dead allineces that did not know when to ask for help. FIX has a great deal of respect for your efforts this weekend. And with the lamentable exception of a tiny percentage of my pilots who cant seem to follow instuctions and not post smack both here and in local, I think we can both be pretty happy with the quality of our fights. To Seleene and the MC, FIXs first experience with the MC has been fantastic and it is clear to see how you have earned and keep your well deserved reputation. FIX is a better organiztion for the experience. Regards, V FIX Chairman of the Board McFIX Frycook
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 03:17:00 - [130] Originally by: Rukaz Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Actually we never brought in D2, D2 have been happily camping away around 9koe and occasionally getting busted up so we could get CVA through. We have been and still are hostile to D2. Sels just saying they showed up mate, thats all. Yes but it was said strait after.. "We knew IAC was going to bring friends into this... we just didn't expect how many!" Implying that a). we brought them, which we didn't, and b). that they are our friends, they aren't. I'm just trying to make things crystal clear here :-)

Doppleganger Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 03:33:00 - [131] Really the most important thing here is to ask "who" is behind it... well take off the tin foil hats and its really easy to see. Ok ASCN post on the boards that they are setting MC & FIX to 0 standings (the 1st part to hide their relationships) then MC responds that they were fired on and then sets ASCN to -10 (2nd part of the plan to hide the truth) then both MC and FIX attack an IAC outpost.... Thats all you need to figure out who is the contractor behind MC and FIX!! ASCN wanted to cover their tracks so well that they were hiring MC and got an agreement with FIX to attack the IAC outpost and it was all planned to deceive so no one would be able to figure the whole plan out! They even had a small force of AXE help out IAC to even further hide thier tracks... See its so simple when you remove the tin foil hats and listen to the wierd voices in subspace. They always tell you the truth and who is behind all the great conspiracies.
INNOMINATE NIGHTMARE	Posted - 2006.10.12 03:41:00 - [132] Commendation Seleene, Despite the fact that I have been informed that you are a woman with a beard, I very much enjoyed your write-up of the 9UY war and indeed also of this one. It is nice to read well-written, gripping and entertaining heroic accounts by others of valiant fights, node crashes, alcoholism, gender-bending, thong-wearing, and all that makes EVE such a fantastic place to inhabit. I therefore neutrally congratulate you for yet another excellent write-up, and continue to assert my support for your desire for a brutal war-stories section. (not to be continued...) The 0.0 Experiment
matty01 No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.10.12 03:42:00 - [133] Originally by: Doppleganger Really the most important thing here is to ask "who" is behind it... well take off the tin foil hats and its really easy to see. Ok ASCN post on the boards that they are setting MC & FIX to 0 standings (the 1st part to hide their relationships) then MC responds that they were fired on and then sets ASCN to -10 (2nd part of the plan to hide the truth) then both MC and FIX attack an IAC outpost.... Thats all you need to figure out who is the contractor behind MC and FIX!! ASCN wanted to cover their tracks so well that they were hiring MC and got an agreement with FIX to attack the IAC outpost and it was all planned to deceive so no one would be able to figure the whole plan out! They even had a small force of AXE help out IAC to even further hide thier tracks... See its so simple when you remove the tin foil hats and listen to the wierd voices in subspace. They always tell you the truth and who is behind all the great conspiracies. anyways i only got to go to the last battle (and only in my wolf, catchin up to the fleet who was on their way to IAC space) and didn't get to see any action really...but was fun anyways, and this was an awesome readup for me being that i was there and really had no clue about anything going on outside my gang gg IAC, <3
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 04:03:00 - [134] Originally by: valhallan First off, great post Seleene, you have done a fine job of capturing an important part of EVE history. There are a few inconsistances (not surprising given how tired everyone was after last week). Those small inconsistnacies have led to some pretty serious misinterpretations so I will attempt to correct them...if that is at all possible on this forum. Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Excellent writeup Seleene Oh and gg FIX for hiring MC, didn't make much sense until Seleene mentioned that you guys had planned all this before ASCN/BoB started. You can stop pretending you got hired too now, the truth is out. I am not quite sure how Tyrrax has confused planned with hired...but I read the first of your paragraphs again and the intro paragraphs muddy the time line a bit. My dear sir, I did not confuse anything with anything, the only thing Seleene's post clarified for me is the fact that FIX hired MC before ASCN vs BoB war started. Quote: From my foxhole, it looked something like this. For many months now, FIX has enjoyed reading some of the wild speculation on the nature of the relationships between BOB and MC and BOB and FIX. While I have intimate knowledge of the later, I was relatively uniformed on the former. The simple fact is that FIX and MC have never fought either for or against each other that I can recall, and BOB has virtually no interest in our foreign policy as long as it does not interfere with our base agreement. So it has been with great ammusement that we have both watched some of the more creative conspiracy theories. It was entertaining up until the point that CYVOK chose, without contacting either Seleene or Myself" to arbitrarily link our policies to BOB and drop our standings, announce his new toy, and spark a conflict with BOB that he surely new would be the response when he unvieled a titan. So having been implicated in a conspiracy, Seleene approached FIX about the posibilty of creating a real relationship to match the non-existant one that we were both suffering the effects of. He was in the middle of planning the op against IAC, FIX has not had a NAP with IAC and we have a history of raiding each other, so there was no real conflict of interest. might want to work on your internal information security before trying to convince anyone of that Quote: For FIX it proved an interesting opportunity. The chance to fly along MC seemed like a good one to us, and given the uncertainty in the world its more than a bit comforting to know that our potential enemies were not hiring them! We dont often get the opportunity to play "away games" as we have historically had limited expansionistic objectives. And lets be serious folks....that crappy part of space is not where I would choose to inject my allience into...the notion that FIX contracted to actually sieze the stations and insert themselves in the middle of the remenants of all thier former enemies is nothing short of absurd and short sighted. Actually I heard MC were trying to sell the outpost for 5 billion ISK and that Maelstrom had expressed interest in purchasing it for Myriad to actually hold, Myriad would have the support of all the anti-IAC entities in the area and would move their entire alliance into our crappy area of space Quote: At any rate, FIX took the opportunity to subcontract against IAC....our service in the siege in exchange for services that have nothing to do with the events of this weekend. While the overall objectives of the weekend fell short, FIXs objectives were more than met. Does this mean you're not going to help KIA ? Busy in Fountain perhaps ? http://eve.klaki.net/
Doppleganger Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 04:32:00 - [135] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk stuff I think I explained it all in my post above.... Plz move the line forward. To get your new tin foil hat use the line on the left to purchase a new one. Get them now before prices go up. They are a hot item and selling fast here in the southern regions of EVE. To drop off your old malfunctioning tin foil hat use the line on the right and you will be issued a claim ticket and we will contact you about you replacement in 6-10 weeks.
valhallan Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 04:51:00 - [136] shrugs....the power of the tinfoil hat is strong in this one... apparently the term hired means something different in my dialect of english than it does yours. Hired by definition would requrie that FIX pay MC for some service rendered. No where did Seleene ever say that. He used the words "progressive taks" "series of agreements" and "agreed to fly along side" all completely consistant with the fact that FIX was invited along to participate and in no way was the genisis of the operation. But clearly you will believe what you choose to regardless One mans internal security problem is another mans Psyops campaign regards V
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 05:02:00 - [137] Originally by: Doppleganger Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk stuff I think I explained it all in my post above.... Plz move the line forward. To get your new tin foil hat use the line on the left to purchase a new one. Get them now before prices go up. They are a hot item and selling fast here in the southern regions of EVE. To drop off your old malfunctioning tin foil hat use the line on the right and you will be issued a claim ticket and we will contact you about you replacement in 6-10 weeks. The whole tinfoil joke is so overdone it's ridiculous. We know it's very hard for FiX to do anything on their own but please please strain those thinking muscles and come up with something original. In rust we trust!!!
Imode Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 05:08:00 - [138] Originally by: Murukan The whole tinfoil joke is so overdone it's ridiculous. We know it's very hard for FiX to do anything on their own but please please strain those thinking muscles and come up with something original. Calling us bandwagoners, lapdogs, etc is pretty unoriginal as well. Then again, for someone who's only had 2 fingers more than a handful of engagements against us, I'm not sure how you suddenly feel you are the leading authority when it comes to FIX policy. Save the witless sarcasm for those who care. ____________________________ Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 05:22:00 - [139] Originally by: Imode Originally by: Murukan The whole tinfoil joke is so overdone it's ridiculous. We know it's very hard for FiX to do anything on their own but please please strain those thinking muscles and come up with something original. Calling us bandwagoners, lapdogs, etc is pretty unoriginal as well. Then again, for someone who's only had 2 fingers more than a handful of engagements against us, I'm not sure how you suddenly feel you are the leading authority when it comes to FIX policy. Save the witless sarcasm for those who care. It's hard to call you anything else when you can never accomplish anything with out a severe amount of backup In rust we trust!!!
Zyllette	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:03:00 - [140] Edited by: Zyllette on 12/10/2006 06:03:39

Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:05:00 - [141] Originally by: valhallan shrugs....the power of the tinfoil hat is strong in this one... Ooh personal insults, how droll. Quote: apparently the term hired means something different in my dialect of english than it does yours. Hired by definition would requrie that FIX pay MC for some service rendered. No where did Seleene ever say that. He used the words "progressive taks" "series of agreements" and "agreed to fly along side" all completely consistant with the fact that FIX was invited along to participate and in no way was the genisis of the operation. You spelled require wrong, guess your dialect of english is inferior to my feeble icelandic person's english. FIX did pay MC to take over our outpost in G-7W, saying otherwise is quite simply lying, or do you not read your own forums ? But hey keep lying if that floats your boat, you're not fooling anyone. http://eve.klaki.net/
Zylla	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:05:00 - [142] Very good story Seleene, nicely written As in any war, truth as a whole is always the first casualty. Each side has their own version, mostly truth with their own spin, call it human nature. The node crashes were the biggest disappointment and it is easy to get caught up in the what if's. It's also very easy to get caught up in whether what the GM's did was fair or not. If one side benefitted they felt it was deserved, if they didn't benefit then it was a bad decision on the GM's part. With any luck luck they've packed the server full of stront for our next engagement. You bring uber skill and ability and we'll bring masses. I'll keep bringing my Ibis' of Doom and sooner or later I'll run you out ammo
Thaylon Sen The Rat Pack	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:08:00 - [143] Awsome read again... tbh u win eve
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:10:00 - [144] Edited by: Seleene on 12/10/2006 06:10:23 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk My dear sir, I did not confuse anything with anything, the only thing Seleene's post clarified for me is the fact that FIX hired MC before ASCN vs BoB war started. Planning for the hit on IAC pre-dated any talks between the MC and FIX. Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Actually I heard MC were trying to sell the outpost for 5 billion ISK and that Maelstrom had expressed interest in purchasing it for Myriad to actually hold, Myriad would have the support of all the anti-IAC entities in the area and would move their entire alliance into our crappy area of space Yes, I read that post too. Interestingly enough, prior to that, I don't think I'd even heard of Myriad. As to the rest of the posts here, it's only natural that people from the other side have a different view of similar events. I openly admit that I wrote this purely from my point of view. I always find it very interesting to hear how the other side saw an engagement. My only issue is the number of people who seem to think the only time there was shooting going on was during laggy / node crash times. That's simply not the case. There were many engagements where game play was very manageable and they produced some quality battles. Anyway, I'm very pleased that so many people seem to have enjoyed this and I hope it inspires others to do the same. If it doesn't happen before November, when I go to FanFest, you can bet I will be bugging the hell out of Keiron for a new forum for this sort of thing. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Alfarinn Amarr FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:22:00 - [145] Originally by: Hectic I have to say, I've seen a lot of IAC taking this whle thing very well. Nice to see an opponent showing respect where respect is due, and not holding a grudge. Thanks, there's a lot of respect on both sides. Perhaps the main reason we took it so well is that we knew if MC had claimed the system we'd play merry-hell with whoever they gave it to and ensure that their EVE lives were not worth living P.S. Regarding McFix + KIA, we're not too concerned about them, we've held GM Ginger on retainer
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:24:00 - [146] Originally by: Alfarinn P.S. Regarding McFix + KIA, we're not too concerned about them, we've held GM Ginger on retainer - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:29:00 - [147] Seleene, that's because Maelstrom Alliance agreed to purchase it from you, they then intended to hand it over to Myriad, so Myriad wouldn't have to have talked to you at all (until time came to hand it over ofc.) I notice you don't actually claim you weren't in the process of selling it to Maelstrom for 5 Billion. PS, so FIX hired you before you had any talks with them ? How very confusing. http://eve.klaki.net/
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:42:00 - [148] Edited by: Seleene on 12/10/2006 06:42:10 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Seleene, that's because Maelstrom Alliance agreed to purchase it from you, they then intended to hand it over to Myriad, so Myriad wouldn't have to have talked to you at all (until time came to hand it over ofc.) I notice you don't actually claim you weren't in the process of selling it to Maelstrom for 5 Billion. Tyrrax, seriously m8, stop trying to read between the lines. I'm not going to talk about clients except to say that the fine print on this job has been a bit more complicated than I usually prefer. The client knows what I mean by this. Typically, I like contracts that go like this. Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!" Quote: PS, so FIX hired you before you had any talks with them ? How very confusing. Yeah, that would be kinda difficult, wouldn't it? - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Imode Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:58:00 - [149] Originally by: Murukan It's hard to call you anything else when you can never accomplish anything with out a severe amount of backup This coming from the alliance who of all people, called in Goonswarm for help. For a very long time we've fought on our own, and basically refused all help until finally we were backed into a wall and were left with no where else to go. We've been nearly at it for a year and a half now, sometimes on, sometimes not so on. Now when matched with the same welcome you cave in within the span of 2 days and taunt openly that you have lots of friends to fall back on. Where I'm from, there's this little saying about a pot and a kettle... ____________________________ Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
tigress Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 07:18:00 - [150] Whats wrong with bringing in more drunken swarms? They are big customers of ours in in terms of alcohol. ;)

Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 07:23:00 - [151] WOOT! More pew pew! Thank in advance and arrears Seleene. Your literary skills are as polished as you and your pilots abilities. Here's to the best fights I've had in Eve yet, and to an enormously entertaining battle should it eventuate in the days to come. Whatever the outcome, I salute you o7. Just one word of advice to your employer (should you actually have one )- "Look closely at the politics of the modern day world and learn from the action of the superpower. While victory may appear to come quickly to the superior force, both in technology and might, its the aftermath of the destruction that will limit your ability to live a peaceful life in pursuit of your ideals. Invasion by any foreign power will always be met with the fiercest resistance, that of a man defending a home he has built and a land he has owned his whole life. One day soon, your contract will cease, your mercenaries will disperse and you will be forced to accept responsibility for the actions you have commanded. Only then will you see the strength and memory of an alliance that has fought, lived, died and permanently laid claim to this sector of space. This will be your day of reckoning."
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 07:37:00 - [152] Pew Pew Pew
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 07:38:00 - [153] Edited by: Murukan on 12/10/2006 07:42:23 eh nvm i won't bother. MC you guys are a great opponent, and the addition of KIA shall make the weekend very interesting. Skilled opponents are always welcome. Fix you guys can keep on pretending that you are important if it makes you happy. In rust we trust!!!
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 07:58:00 - [154] Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 12/10/2006 08:02:03 hahahahah, muru i liked your original better :P
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 08:15:00 - [155] Originally by: Murukan hehe seleene don't be coy and act like you lot are done. Those freighters moving into utopia say otherwise. But if you were done i'de be sad cause fighting you guys is as about as good combat training as one can get. ASCN used similar reasoning with regards to our contracts. Am still getting over The Priory being in IAC.
tigress Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 08:28:00 - [156] We just decided they needed some manners and then they'd be good. Note that we are still going to employ open space for neutrals when this is over. And priory is to follow that too. ;) pew pew pew!
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 08:44:00 - [157] Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 12/10/2006 07:42:23 eh nvm i won't bother. MC you guys are a great opponent, and the addition of KIA shall make the weekend very interesting. Skilled opponents are always welcome. Fix you guys can keep on pretending that you are important if it makes you happy. Fix are a nice bunch of chap's who have been around a long time and done alot of things, you going on about them not accomplishing things is a bit sad considering the weight of help you needed to fight them all off. Regardless, it sounds like it was a blast Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 08:46:00 - [158] You know, it's really sad how just 2~3 people can make such a nice post (certainly relative to another conflict currently underway) turn into a cesspool of vile and derision. It's a good read: free of smack/propaganga/etc... why some people can't just leave it that way is sad. LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.12 08:52:00 - [159] great writeup seleene! as i unfortunatly missed all the action [out till oct 16th(shakes fist at ISP)] i missed all the action and could only follow it on the forums here and on CVA forums. now it feels a little more like i had been there Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida. My sig is blue not pink although i can't argue with the slave part - Xorus wth whats this blue stuff all of a sudden? Did I miss a mail? -eris Bwahahahaha!11 Immy was here
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:01:00 - [160] Originally by: Latex Mistress You know, it's really sad how just 2~3 people can make such a nice post (certainly relative to another conflict currently underway) turn into a cesspool of vile and derision. It's a good read: free of smack/propaganga/etc... why some people can't just leave it that way is sad. It was a nice one sided post indeed. To bad there are two sides to the picture, and in this case 2 or 10 Funny how things work out. Anyway good luck on this weekend. You will need it; that is not smack but just an affirmation of things to come. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats

DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:03:00 - [161] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Latex Mistress You know, it's really sad how just 2~3 people can make such a nice post (certainly relative to another conflict currently underway) turn into a cesspool of vile and derision. It's a good read: free of smack/propaganga/etc... why some people can't just leave it that way is sad. It was a nice one sided post indeed. To bad there are two sides to the picture, and in this case 2 or 10 Funny how things work out. Anyway good luck on this weekend. You will need it; that is not smack but just an affirmation of things to come. shush kay, your gonna give it away
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:21:00 - [162] OK OK geez I just reread the last two pages and I think it is time the public was finally given the truth on the contract. Booze Kills Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Artean Minmatar North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:21:00 - [163] The timing couldn't be any better; I'm seriously suffering from B@W-syndrome, and this read sure as **** did cure it! ........ There's a thin line between professional gate camping and just standing by a gate looking like an idiot...
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:28:00 - [164] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Latex Mistress You know, it's really sad how just 2~3 people can make such a nice post (certainly relative to another conflict currently underway) turn into a cesspool of vile and derision. It's a good read: free of smack/propaganga/etc... why some people can't just leave it that way is sad. It was a nice one sided post indeed. To bad there are two sides to the picture, and in this case 2 or 10 Funny how things work out. Anyway good luck on this weekend. You will need it; that is not smack but just an affirmation of things to come. I think LM was referring to The Priory guys vs FIX bits. So clearly Murukan you dislike FIX but can you keep that to another thread and not this one please!
Weirda Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:30:00 - [165] Originally by: Kaylana Syi OK OK geez I just reread the last two pages and I think it is time the public was finally given the truth on the contract. Booze Kills /tinfoil Weirda was right! Tyrrax wanted to make you guys look strong - he and Raem called in a favour... sound like a lot of fun. __ Weirda Join QOTSA Now Stealth Bomber Tweaks
Gilbert Drillerson DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:36:00 - [166] Awesome read Selene :) Dont get mad - Get even
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:23:00 - [167] Originally by: Weirda Originally by: Kaylana Syi OK OK geez I just reread the last two pages and I think it is time the public was finally given the truth on the contract. Booze Kills /tinfoil Weirda was right! Tyrrax wanted to make you guys look strong - he and Raem called in a favour... sound like a lot of fun. /me wishes Weirda and QotSA were here for IAC I't be a blast I tell you! Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 11:32:00 - [168] Originally by: INNOMINATE NIGHTMARE Commendation Seleene, Despite the fact that I have been informed that you are a woman with a beard, I very much enjoyed your write-up of the 9UY war and indeed also of this one. It is nice to read well-written, gripping and entertaining heroic accounts by others of valiant fights, node crashes, alcoholism, gender-bending, thong-wearing, and all that makes EVE such a fantastic place to inhabit. I therefore neutrally congratulate you for yet another excellent write-up, and continue to assert my support for your desire for a brutal war-stories section. (not to be continued...) I quite agree with Innominate on this, it was quite well written.., not 100% accurate and IMO (flame if you will but this is my oppinion) seams like it is trying to save face as a defeat OR tells us that you'll be back :-) Not a personal dig Seleene just how i view it :-)
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 11:51:00 - [169] This was nice reading. -- Nobody stays behind
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.12 11:58:00 - [170] Originally by: Jouni Kalmar [...eams like it is trying to save face as a defeat... Its tricky, isnt it. I don't think that is really the case, but its almost bound to come across that way because of who is writing it. Anyone directly involved in a conflict who then reports it on the forum, is going to put a little touch of 'spin' on it, even if its not intended. The brain has a habit of becoming extremely defensive in the face of a 'defeat', and no matter how objective you try to be, some of that will come though. I don't think it was intentionally that way though. I think we can all understand that the underlying frustrations come not from the defeat itself, but the messed-up game mechanics which may have contributed to it.

Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 12:33:00 - [171] Originally by: Seleene MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!" QFT! That is going in my sig. Smacktalk is bad, mmkay? As for the rampant speculation, I feel it is time to come clean. I'm sorry for lettig this secret out, Seleene, and feel free to punish me in whatever way you see fit. I would like all ove EVE-O to pay attention, as I am about to reveal our client: Squagel's Chinchillas. That's right, rodents. Not BoB, not FIX, not GM Ginger....Chinchillas. You may now resume your tinfoil hattery. I request a tricorner, please. Farjung FanBois, Charter Member Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - [i]"Ooooh! Good!
Janice Forge	Posted - 2006.10.12 12:55:00 - [172] Edited by: Janice Forge on 12/10/2006 12:55:51 Quote: and the basic truth of McFix biting off more than they can chew. me thinks a 400 ship blob was a good indication of that... though it did seem to catch IAC off guard, it seems like MC/FIX will end up paying out more in resources than a station is probably worth... although there would be much satisfaction and fun had in taking something. oops this is an IAC member alt of the same surname.... sorry
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 13:45:00 - [173] Edited by: Cabadrin on 12/10/2006 13:45:30 Generally, more people means more killing to us. We relish having opponents who fight. Our biggest problem was with the lag and node crashes; without those, the weekend would have gone differently. Not necessarily in our favor, just differently. EDIT: As to losing resources, I think our costs have been pretty light so far _______________________________________________
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 13:46:00 - [174] I guess we'll see a sequel with KIA in bound and MC bring freighters up the arse.... I can only assume FIX will be back. IAC...batten down the hatches....get your beer now...MC will be back again with KIA and FIX...who knows who else....
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:05:00 - [175] Originally by: Silvestri I guess we'll see a sequel with KIA in bound and MC bring freighters up the arse.... I can only assume FIX will be back. IAC...batten down the hatches....get your beer now...MC will be back again with KIA and FIX...who knows who else.... Actually, because we've been "defeated" (both in space and on the forums) we're retrieving our toys, packing up the pram, and going home. Freighters can pick up and deliver things you know... LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:22:00 - [176] Originally by: Latex Mistress Originally by: Silvestri I guess we'll see a sequel with KIA in bound and MC bring freighters up the arse.... I can only assume FIX will be back. IAC...batten down the hatches....get your beer now...MC will be back again with KIA and FIX...who knows who else.... Actually, because we've been "defeated" (both in space and on the forums) we're retrieving our toys, packing up the pram, and going home. Freighters can pick up and deliver things you know... Sure... ____________ The Priory Killboard
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:26:00 - [177] Originally by: Cabadrin Edited by: Cabadrin on 12/10/2006 13:45:30 Generally, more people means more killing to us. We relish having opponents who fight. Our biggest problem was with the lag and node crashes; without those, the weekend would have gone differently. Not necessarily in our favor, just differently. EDIT: As to losing resources, I think our costs have been pretty light so far Absolutely true. MC took the absolute least losses in this entire engagement, and fix took about 30% of what IAC did in ship losses. The whole ordeal has cost IAC and it's pilots in excess of 10billion ISK thus far, which many will agree is a significant draw on the wallet over a 5 day period. Originally by: Latex Mistress Actually, because we've been "defeated" (both in space and on the forums) we're retrieving our toys, packing up the pram, and going home. Freighters can pick up and deliver things you know... As much as I would love to believe it, I just don't think it is true. Regardless, you were never 'defeated' and you know it . IAC merely held off your initial push for 'The Distillery' and now we are merely expecting further engagements. The difference is we expect to see more of you but the element of suprise for IAC is slightly less of a factor . Has everyone else caught up on lost sleep?
Hygelac Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:40:00 - [178] Edited by: Hygelac on 12/10/2006 14:39:49 Originally by: n sx Has everyone else caught up on lost sleep? Looking forwards to getting another early night in before the weekend :p Back on topic, Sel was really interesting to read from someone who wasn't really that active last weekend for the fighting. Reading that, I can almost imagine that I was there. I think that all readers of these forums understand that when someone makes a post it's from their point of view, but as they say: "There's three sides to every story, your side, our side and the Truth!" What was great about the write up of 9UY was that The Establishment responded on that thread with a write up of their own. It was of great interest to read the 'other sides' perspective on the conflict and their honest appraisal of the situation hit me with an empathy for our former enemies. I'd love to see something similar from the IAC camp. --- Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:44:00 - [179] Originally by: tigress We just decided they needed some manners and then they'd be good. Note that we are still going to employ open space for neutrals when this is over. And priory is to follow that too. ;) pew pew pew! nah we'll turn you into bloodthirsty nbsi loving gunslingers just you wait And holy crap at the possible size of the dread fleet we might see. I think you guys need to when you're ready to jump say jump and just have weeman jump his nagl in, let us blow it up for a good laugh, then you can jump the rest in and have the fight begin In rust we trust!!!
Eyeshadow Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:54:00 - [180] Originally by: Jouni Kalmar ...seams like it is trying to save face as a defeat OR tells us that you'll be back :-) Defeat? What ***** defeat? If it hadnt been for the absolutely ludicrous decisions of a certain GM to allow the removal of assets from g-7 after the station was ours, numerous node drops that screwed up station ownership/POSes and the fighting aspect as well you woulda had your arses handed to you even more than you did I know i'll get it in the neck for flaming but i dont ***** care. You sir are a burk and have no idea what you are talking about. My Latest Vid (18/04/06)

Flashheart Caldari Solar Storm Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:55:00 - [181] Very nice writeup Seleene. It's a real shame the servers are in such a bad way at the moment, with the current conflicts going on all over the place it could have been a really fun time to be an EvE player. Hope it improves soon and we can can all have some truly epic fights.
Cicilus Hadrican Caldari Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:05:00 - [182] Edited by: Cicilus Hadrican on 12/10/2006 15:06:51 I have to say through this whole ordeal, not once was Storm Armada said, praised or flamed (for outsiders, Storm Armada were also support with FIX while MC did the capital and later, helped with lck down. I'll be the first to congrauate Storm Arm for coming down and fighting us too. so in the case of fairness and equal praise, can we change the name for MCFIX to McFix Armada. Still sorta goes together, but we loose the fast food spin of things lol gf's all around btw <EDIT> had to fire my typing monkey and fix all spelling mistakes, probably missed one somewhere
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:15:00 - [183] Originally by: Eyeshadow You sir are a burk and have no idea what you are talking about. I just wanted to interject at this point and congratulate Eyshadow on the use of the word 'burk' albeit slightly misspelled. Sadly this amusing 'cockney' word seems to have gone out of fashion these days so I am glad that at least one person is reviving it Berk ------------------------------
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:16:00 - [184] Originally by: Eyeshadow Originally by: Jouni Kalmar ...seams like it is trying to save face as a defeat OR tells us that you'll be back :-) Defeat? What ***** defeat? If it hadnt been for the absolutely ludicrous decisions of a certain GM to allow the removal of assets from g-7 after the station was ours, numerous node drops that screwed up station ownership/POSes and the fighting aspect as well you woulda had your arses handed to you even more than you did I know i'll get it in the neck for flaming but i dont ***** care. You sir are a burk and have no idea what you are talking about. Wow... I just love the amount of biased spin that being put on this whole thing Gimme a break. Nice language, too. Some of you guys sure are tightly wound and overly-defensive about all of this, dontcha think? Keep up the delusions of grandeur... it's getting to comical proportions.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:22:00 - [185] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 12/10/2006 15:22:20 Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Eyeshadow Originally by: Jouni Kalmar ...seams like it is trying to save face as a defeat OR tells us that you'll be back :-) Defeat? What ***** defeat? If it hadnt been for the absolutely ludicrous decisions of a certain GM to allow the removal of assets from g-7 after the station was ours, numerous node drops that screwed up station ownership/POSes and the fighting aspect as well you woulda had your arses handed to you even more than you did I know i'll get it in the neck for flaming but i dont ***** care. You sir are a burk and have no idea what you are talking about. Wow... I just love the amount of biased spin that being put on this whole thing Gimme a break. Nice language, too. Some of you guys sure are tightly wound and overly-defensive about all of this, dontcha think? Keep up the delusions of grandeur... it's getting to comical proportions. You never met Eye before? Bottom line though Toman the GM allowed you to dock and undock at a station that wasn't owned by you, even offered to jump people out of system if they were stuck that is fact and something you cannot deny!
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:29:00 - [186] Edited by: Toman Torax on 12/10/2006 15:30:00 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 12/10/2006 15:22:20 You never met Eye before? Bottom line though Toman the GM allowed you to dock and undock at a station that wasn't owned by you, even offered to jump people out of system if they were stuck that is fact and something you cannot deny! Here comes that "three sides to every story" thing again... I also remember a lot of IAC members getting randomly warped back by GM Ginger to the station which you guys were camping and getting instapopped. Everyone is gonna put their 2 ISK in and obviously spin things in their favor, but some of this stuff is just laughable.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:30:00 - [187] Guys you're getting off topic, the topic at hand is how you need to let weeman jump his dread in first so we can kill it and all get a good laugh. In rust we trust!!!
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:31:00 - [188] What I really like about these forums is the way lots of people who had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the skirmish in question feel duty bound to poke the thread with a sh1tty stick. If you weren't there then hush. Most of those that were there are both respectful and respected enemies, sure there's always going to be a different spin on the tale - that's the way different sides work, it's all the "OMG you were so defeated" stuff, usually by people that had little or no input in the engagements that I personally get narked at. If you think you've schooled us, be respectful about it ffs and you will earn that respect back, to do otherwise is storing trouble (just imho). Never to my knowledge have the MC openly gloated over the defeat of an enemy entity, after all, todays enemy is tomorrows customer. Reap what you sow ladies and gents. Now get back to your lives and stop wasting your time reading forums
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:33:00 - [189] Originally by: Murukan Guys you're getting off topic, the topic at hand is how you need to let weeman jump his dread in first so we can kill it and all get a good laugh. How much you offering , I remember when weeman use to mine in a dommie back when he was in my old corp many moons ago Toman agreed everyone has their own view points and its worthless smacking each other about them. I think we all need to agree we disagree slightly and see it from different sides.
Eyeshadow Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:40:00 - [190] Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 12/10/2006 15:19:52 Originally by: Eyeshadow You sir are a burk and have no idea what you are talking about. I just wanted to interject at this point and congratulate Eyeshadow on the use of the word 'burk' albeit slightly misspelled. Sadly this amusing 'cockney' word seems to have gone out of fashion these days so I am glad that at least one person is reviving it Berk I wasnt sure how it was spelt. I juggled between burk, burke and berk and settled for burk. Thanks for giving me the correct spelling. Much appreciated As for putting spin on the situation, we all know what went on and you guys certainly used it to your advantage, as did we, though you got more from it (like moving dreads out of a station that wasnt in your control) My Latest Vid (18/04/06)

Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:42:00 - [191] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Toman agreed everyone has their own view points and its worthless smacking each other about them. I think we all need to agree we disagree slightly and see it from different sides. Sure... but that doesn't seem to be happening at the moment, does it? I still see a lot of chest beating and ridiculous spinning going on. And before I get called into question on it again... I was there, and I'll be there again (tonight ). I think we all need to stop wasting time on these forums and just take it to the battlefield again, already.
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:43:00 - [192] Edited by: n sx on 12/10/2006 15:43:55 Originally by: Hygelac I'd love to see something similar from the IAC camp. Hey Mate, When I get some time I am happy to oblige and write something up from IAC's perspective. I will however wait until I know/think this entire conflict is finished, as right now it seems far from over. Between RL and operation prohibition I am a tad strapped for time. -n
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:59:00 - [193] Edited by: Raid on 12/10/2006 15:59:03 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Bottom line though Toman the GM allowed you to dock and undock at a station that wasn't owned by you, even offered to jump people out of system if they were stuck that is fact and something you cannot deny! WOW if that is true that is MESSED UP! We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Take the POS's into reinforced mode before downtime and conquer the station right after. Locking the enemy ships inside the station was the plan.. and it seems was yours as well. If a GM can just walk in and change all that then why bother even trying to take an outpost!
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:22:00 - [194] Just a couple of observations from reading this entire thread: 1. Great post Seleene. Your war stories, and the others that have likewise been posted by others, are a refreshing change to the smack that generally fills these boards. 2. Murukan: Get a grip. You are a small player on a large stage and seem to be interested only in smacking your way to the top, as if that somehow makes you credible or believable? Killmail, schmillmail, who really cares? Instead of adding something constructive to this thread, you are bent on smacking it. Sadly, some FIX people have also helped you along the path with their smack as well. 3. Tyrrax: You allude to our internal forums somehow proving we hired MC. Since I have access to pretty much everything on the FIX boards and have since the day they were created, could you please direct me to the specific thread you are referencing or post the discussion with a thread link so we can all see that what you are saying is genuine? I have known you since before the creation of the CFS. I would have to say objectively that you are way off on your FIX contracts MC thought, which has already been debunked by both MC and FIX leadership - heck, the bosses of both alliances. Care to continue with something other than unsupported allegations? 4. n_sx: (Hope I spelled that correctly. You state that you would not have had the help if FIX was not involved. We are apparently reviled in some folks' eyes. Given your help partly from pirates, goons (of all folks), Axiom (who are part of the standings reset with ASCN) and an RP alliance that has a corporation in it that apparently has some kind of axe to grind with FIX, are you surprised? Tell me what this has to do with lack of respect for FIX? Dislike of us? Probably. Been spanked by us a few times? Probably. Wanted a good fight and knew they would get it from FIX? Probably. Fear that if the invasion was successful that FIX would control the space and cause logistics issues for ASCN and others? Probably, although way off base in terms of the reality of the operation. In the end, we have not sought your respect and your comments concerning ours are really unimportant to us. We have the respect of those that we desire to have it from. It is really that simple. Now, if everyone could stay on topic maybe this thread can progress as it was before the "smack brigade" got involved.
Admiral Tacticus Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:27:00 - [195] Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/10/2006 15:59:03 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Bottom line though Toman the GM allowed you to dock and undock at a station that wasn't owned by you, even offered to jump people out of system if they were stuck that is fact and something you cannot deny! WOW if that is true that is MESSED UP! We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Take the POS's into reinforced mode before downtime and conquer the station right after. Locking the enemy ships inside the station was the plan.. and it seems was yours as well. If a GM can just walk in and change all that then why bother even trying to take an outpost! /SIGNED WITH CAPITAL LETTERS 5 TIMES IAC get over it... u got your asses handed... i saw some of the frapsm and tbh you were basically decimated...... lose a 40 v 80 fightm, having the same nu,ber of battleships, facing a fleet having 5-6 support ships, not kill a single ship, and lose a station all in the matter of 1.5 hour. u guys rock ! wohoooo get a grip, pls. and saying FIX are noobs is frankly lamess. most of the fleets you faced were mainly FIX, and the engagement i am talking about was lead by a fix FC. so how many bottles of g-7 made vodka you gave to the GM ? if it is true that you got 3 dreads and a ton of other ships out of the station thanks to the GM sounds like a reaaaal bad exploit, and resembles some of the latest GM exploits. and we alll know that CONCORD hired FIX, then FIX hired MC, then MC hired KIA, because yhey are fed up with you smuggling alchohol to empire. yeah right ! FIX leader told you that fix is barely a guest to MC in this one, and you know that FIX dont want to take that outpost... look at the map... just how many non-hostile to FIX alliances are around theer ?? 1... 2 ? ... 0 ? better think before posting, because you just make yourselves look bad and *** on all the hard work your guys are doing, because IAC have tons of great people, that are worthy oponents and enjoy the fight. heh, i guess not being able to do anything is the driving force behind your forum smackm so go on. i can see right there that you are great at it. too bad it is the only thing you can do. let the falme and smack begin .. NOW. oh btw, i wont bother coming on this forum again so go on, waste your time knowing that i will not even read the things you type in your dispair to make yourselves look less hillarious. to the rest of the honorable IAC guys : respect ! i heard tons of great stuff about you, and hope to see you in fight soon ! pop them baddies ! (make sure u rename the station after you get a firm grip over it again, apropriately)
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:30:00 - [196] Edited by: Grimster on 12/10/2006 16:30:39 Quote: Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/10/2006 15:59:03 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Bottom line though Toman the GM allowed you to dock and undock at a station that wasn't owned by you, even offered to jump people out of system if they were stuck that is fact and something you cannot deny! WOW if that is true that is MESSED UP! We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Take the POS's into reinforced mode before downtime and conquer the station right after. Locking the enemy ships inside the station was the plan.. and it seems was yours as well. If a GM can just walk in and change all that then why bother even trying to take an outpost! /SIGNED WITH CAPITAL LETTERS 5 TIMES IAC get over it... u got your asses handed... i saw some of the frapsm and tbh you were basically decimated...... lose a 40 v 80 fightm, having the same nu,ber of battleships, facing a fleet having 5-6 support ships, not kill a single ship, and lose a station all in the matter of 1.5 hour. u guys rock ! wohoooo get a grip, pls. and saying FIX are noobs is frankly lamess. most of the fleets you faced were mainly FIX, and the engagement i am talking about was lead by a fix FC. so how many bottles of g-7 made vodka you gave to the GM ? if it is true that you got 3 dreads and a ton of other ships out of the station thanks to the GM sounds like a reaaaal bad exploit, and resembles some of the latest GM exploits. and we alll know that CONCORD hired FIX, then FIX hired MC, then MC hired KIA, because yhey are fed up with you smuggling alchohol to empire. yeah right ! FIX leader told you that fix is barely a guest to MC in this one, and you know that FIX dont want to take that outpost... look at the map... just how many non-hostile to FIX alliances are around theer ?? 1... 2 ? ... 0 ? better think before posting, because you just make yourselves look bad and *** on all the hard work your guys are doing, because IAC have tons of great people, that are worthy oponents and enjoy the fight. heh, i guess not being able to do anything is the driving force behind your forum smackm so go on. i can see right there that you are great at it. too bad it is the only thing you can do. let the falme and smack begin .. NOW. oh btw, i wont bother coming on this forum again so go on, waste your time knowing that i will not even read the things you type in your dispair to make yourselves look less hillarious. to the rest of the honorable IAC guys : respect ! i heard tons of great stuff about you, and hope to see you in fight soon ! pop them baddies ! (make sure u rename the station after you get a firm grip over it again, apropriately) Wrong alt? This'll prolly get pwned. Post with your main!
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:31:00 - [197] One other thought on respect: In the universal world of diplomacy and politics there are those that hate you, those that dislike you, those that are neutral towards you, those that like you and those that love you. I expect FIX, like pretty much every other alliance, has it's fair share of "All of the Above." Do you not think the same applies to IAC, ASCN, Axiom, LV, BOB, etc.?
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:44:00 - [198] Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/10/2006 15:59:03 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Bottom line though Toman the GM allowed you to dock and undock at a station that wasn't owned by you, even offered to jump people out of system if they were stuck that is fact and something you cannot deny! WOW if that is true that is MESSED UP! We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Take the POS's into reinforced mode before downtime and conquer the station right after. Locking the enemy ships inside the station was the plan.. and it seems was yours as well. If a GM can just walk in and change all that then why bother even trying to take an outpost! Well the GM didnt change the station back the node did that though he allowed people to undock while everyone was ordered on a ceasefire. However like I say lets get on and not go over that again its happened nothing we can do about it now. Raid see MC forum if you want a more in deepth story from at least how we saw it.
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:49:00 - [199] Originally by: Admiral Tacticus blah blah blah SNIP Is it so hard to make a post from your main... or do you not even have one? Alt smacking 4tl.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:00:00 - [200] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Admiral Tacticus blah blah blah SNIP Is it so hard to make a post from your main... or do you not even have one? Alt smacking 4tl. Ignore the alts

maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:15:00 - [201] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Admiral Tacticus blah blah blah SNIP Is it so hard to make a post from your main... or do you not even have one? Alt smacking 4tl. Ignore the alts Indeed ____________ The Priory Killboard

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Xiao Lung Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:37:00 - [203] Considering some replies on this fifth page I wonder if the previous four have been read. The node mistreated all players. The GM acted so it backlashed on both sides of the conflict. Considering my presence in the system when the node went down all those times, I'm pretty certain that IAC had received less losses if they had been left stuck in the outpost than what actually happened. We were warped off without even touching the controls of the game. Straight into your camps. Nice huh? Add login warps after you've been kicked out of the server, only to find yourself in the middle of a hostile camp. Would you go "Yay!" at that? I totally understand the order of a cease fire at that moment. Drop this. Move on. You brought huge firepower, skills and a cunning gameplan. You caught us off guard. We responded in the way we seemed fit - with numbers. Since we lacked both huge firepower and skills and had no gameplan for your invasion. So we gathered a few friends and went to the battlefield in whatever we had handy at the time. When my gang approached G-7WUF gate and we met up with another two gangs my heart missed a heartbeat. At that point I understood how freakingly absurdly large gang we had got together to take back what did belong to us. I think I speak for most of us in IAC when I say we don't care if we have to lose all our ships, as long as we defend and hold our turf in this vast thing called space. Hence you can smile when you look at your killboards. I and my friends smile when we look at our turf and see it still belonging to us. So all this babbling about kills is just meaningless and pointless, because they don't matter as long as we or you achieve a set goal. This round we got out on top. I'm eagerly awaiting next round. Maybe you'll win that one, we can only wait and see. So yeah. You slaughtered us. Nothing else was expected from me. But that isn't worth anything in my book, since we stood up and defended ourselves and our territory. I read Seleene's tale with a smile on my face and there is much in it that is accurate, the downside is the things that caused both of our two sides mental scars. It was quite absurd to hear the orders over voicecom when we took back the outpost in the middle of the night. "Everyone A-M shoot now." "HOLD FIRE, THE NODE IS LAGGING" "Ok. Everyone A-M with torpedoes, fire!" "Everyone in a small ship warp away, you're lagging the node!" "No drones! They will kill the node!" "HOLD FIRE FOR FIVE MINUTES" "Ok, everyone in a BS with guns hug the station and fire" I think you get the picture. Add the horrible fact that everytime the node went down, the shields were reset back to 100%. Oh the agony! For those gangs in the operation not on our teamspeak and not reading gang chats, we had to use local to relay the orders to them. Might have seemed funny to you, but was a necessity in order to keep the node alive. All of of this is because we all declared war on the server by having escalated this conflict. Kudos to everyone keeping their wits sharp, their tongue in check and their humour alive. We'll be seeing more of each other on the battlefield shortly. That I'm sure of! And when all of this is over, feel free to drop in and have a drink at my lounge in the Distillery. + Pod Pilot Extraordinaire ½
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:47:00 - [204] Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican Edited by: Cicilus Hadrican on 12/10/2006 15:06:51 I have to say through this whole ordeal, not once was Storm Armada said, praised or flamed (for outsiders, Storm Armada were also support with FIX while MC did the capital and later, helped with lck down. I'll be the first to congrauate Storm Arm for coming down and fighting us too. so in the case of fairness and equal praise, can we change the name for MCFIX to McFix Armada. Still sorta goes together, but we loose the fast food spin of things lol gf's all around btw <EDIT> had to fire my typing monkey and fix all spelling mistakes, probably missed one somewhere Didn't you get the memo? ESA are FIX alts, who are alts of MC, who are alts of BoB, who are Dev mains. -----------
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 20:40:00 - [205] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor 2. Murukan: Get a grip. You are a small player on a large stage and seem to be interested only in smacking your way to the top, as if that somehow makes you credible or believable? Killmail, schmillmail, who really cares? Instead of adding something constructive to this thread, you are bent on smacking it. Sadly, some FIX people have also helped you along the path with their smack as well. I really don't know how anything i said relates to killmails but it's all good. To be honest a lot of FiX posts come off as condescending (yours in no way is) which is what irks a lot of people. But you're right there is enough smack already without having to add any more In rust we trust!!!
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 21:40:00 - [206] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/10/2006 15:59:03 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Bottom line though Toman the GM allowed you to dock and undock at a station that wasn't owned by you, even offered to jump people out of system if they were stuck that is fact and something you cannot deny! WOW if that is true that is MESSED UP! We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Take the POS's into reinforced mode before downtime and conquer the station right after. Locking the enemy ships inside the station was the plan.. and it seems was yours as well. If a GM can just walk in and change all that then why bother even trying to take an outpost! Well the GM didnt change the station back the node did that though he allowed people to undock while everyone was ordered on a ceasefire. However like I say lets get on and not go over that again its happened nothing we can do about it now. Raid see MC forum if you want a more in deepth story from at least how we saw it. And while the GMs were at it they scooped up all your fighter drones and gave them back to MC pilots while ours floated out in space. You guys would make good spiders with the amount of spinning you do. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
EagleHawk RockClimber	Posted - 2006.10.12 21:47:00 - [207] The op in G-7 was a lot of fun. Frustrating and boring much of the time due to game mechanics but fun is what I pay to play this game for. It is truely a shame that the server could not keep up with us. Regarding smack talk in local, Rest assured that in FIX, we do not consider that to be respectful to either friend or foe. When we catch our own people doing it in the heat of the moment, it is handled in no uncertain terms... For Most of our long history, FIX personnel have not been known as forum spammers and we discorage that kind of behaviour... We prefer our leadership to either post or not as they see fit... HECK, for the most part I rarely ever read the EVE-O forums seeing as a certain percentage of people that post flames on the boards just have to get attention. For my Part, I will fight an opponent against any odds as ordered. Win, loose, or draw, my respect for the opponent, as well as my own forces climbs exponentially when respect on the battlefield is shown by both sides. IAC, I was truely pleased to see local climb to 330+ last Sunday. Sorry the CCP nodes couldn't handle all of us... Salute.
Doppleganger Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.12 22:01:00 - [208] Eagle get your info in under your name or you will get censored.. Ya noob....
Eyeshadow Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 22:11:00 - [209] Originally by: Eldo Davip snip snip to you too. What i said was true and personal insults are my forte so My Latest Vid (18/04/06)
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 22:50:00 - [210] Originally by: Toman Torax I'll be there again (tonight ). Indeed you were.

Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 23:02:00 - [211] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Toman Torax I'll be there again (tonight ). Indeed you were. P.S. When flying a T2 Raven around 0.0 solo, do not jump straight into a large hostile gang. My guns didn't even have time to activate.. Max --------------------
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 23:02:00 - [212] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/10/2006 15:59:03 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Bottom line though Toman the GM allowed you to dock and undock at a station that wasn't owned by you, even offered to jump people out of system if they were stuck that is fact and something you cannot deny! WOW if that is true that is MESSED UP! We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Take the POS's into reinforced mode before downtime and conquer the station right after. Locking the enemy ships inside the station was the plan.. and it seems was yours as well. If a GM can just walk in and change all that then why bother even trying to take an outpost! Well the GM didnt change the station back the node did that though he allowed people to undock while everyone was ordered on a ceasefire. However like I say lets get on and not go over that again its happened nothing we can do about it now. Raid see MC forum if you want a more in deepth story from at least how we saw it. And while the GMs were at it they scooped up all your fighter drones and gave them back to MC pilots while ours floated out in space. You guys would make good spiders with the amount of spinning you do. Negative. We brought our carriers in and got our own fighters. Ginger never undocked that carrier, afaik. Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 23:31:00 - [213] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Toman Torax I'll be there again (tonight ). Indeed you were. Yeah... that was a freebie just for Dinger. Tell him I said hello! Originally by: Max Teranous P.S. When flying a T2 Raven around 0.0 solo, do not jump straight into a large hostile gang. My guns didn't even have time to activate.. Oops. And let that be a lesson to you, kiddies... DON'T DRINK AND FLY!
Dinger Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 00:42:00 - [214] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Toman Torax I'll be there again (tonight ). Indeed you were. Yeah... that was a freebie just for Dinger. Tell him I said hello! Just spotted this. Hello Toman, what to say, freebie or otherwise, and as one-sided as it was, fair play to you for coming out and having a go and my apologies for the harshness of my earlier comments.
Xiao Lung Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 00:43:00 - [215] Originally by: EagleHawk RockClimber IAC, I was truely pleased to see local climb to 330+ last Sunday. Sorry the CCP nodes couldn't handle all of us... Salute. raises glass of wine On my systems the local count was somewhere around 470 when the node crashed the first time. I experienced practically no delays in executing my orders until mere seconds before the first node crash. Then it went downhill from there. Too bad the party was based on shooting each other instead of having a good time chatting and drinking. + Pod Pilot Extraordinaire ½
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 01:26:00 - [216] Originally by: Dinger Just spotted this. Hello Toman, what to say, freebie or otherwise, and as one-sided as it was, fair play to you for coming out and having a go and my apologies for the harshness of my earlier comments. May we meet again under more... even circumstances
Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:19:00 - [217] Originally by: Raid We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Buahaaaaahaaaahaahahahaa!! I fell off may chair! Ahh, Raid. You provide us with so much amusement at times . Including yourself in CDC's plan... shame on you
Red Horseman Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 05:08:00 - [218] There's some talk (you know who you are) of IAC being given an unfair advantage because we were allowed to undock. This is total bulls***. Sure, IAC got to undock a few ships early. But MC got to kill the people that got randomly warped to the station, and they got to scoop fighters that would have been killed if the node had not crashed the second time. Let me ask you something: Did those cap ships that undocked help IAC any? How many kills did they get? I don't remember any. You gave up on last weekend to go regroup for this weekend, not because of some advantage granted to IAC by magic node crash haxx, but because you were vastly outnumbered. Had a battle actually ensued, who knows what would have happened; but don't claim that we were given the advantage. Truth is, both sides got screwed out of a good fight, and that's what's really worth whining on the forums about.
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.13 05:24:00 - [219] Edited by: Rebellion on 13/10/2006 05:25:26 The Truth What hasn't been revealed yet is that ASCN were actually the ones that hired McFIX to attack the IAC. They then went on to roleplay the paranoid misinderstanding to make it appear as if MC and ASCN were not on good terms. Just so that people would not suspect that they were behind it. Without such a ruse, it would be obvious as to who would really have the financial capability to hire McFIX to conduct an operation of this scale. While McFIX assaults IAC, who would then be "surprised" to find unlikely allied from so many other alliances, these forces would be occupied enough that ASCN could leave their flanks exposed as they "brought the battle to BoB". BoB and ASCN then staged this battle around TPAR-G, when in actuality, no fighting ever took place. It was just a gathering of forces in order to prepare for an assault on McFIX home systems while they were occupied with IAC. Now this brings us to the real reason behind all of the events of the recent weeks: Molle and his alts, Seleene and CYVOK, were becoming exceedingly bored at the relative uneventful situation in the south of EVE. They hatched this plan in order to stir up things, and proceeded to craft the overall strategy and series of events in such a way as to make the real reasons and goals unfathomable. The GMs and Devs are not working around the clock to monitor the status of the server under all of these strains. The objective is to find the root cause of the node crash problems and fix them. CCP (Molle's alts too) actually started all this because they wanted to performance test some Kali code (rememer how "some" "unspecified" bits of Kali made their way to the recent updates?) before it is released. Now I fully expect all parties involve to deny this honest and truthful analysis of what really is going on with EVE at the moment. That's alright. We know the truth though, and I'll keep on blogging it just like CYVOK and McGreedy until people start believing it. PS: I don't expect McFIX to be done with IAC yet. No alts of ours ever give up.
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 05:38:00 - [220] Hahah Rebellion ...... there's a new one! I should compile the entire list .... it would almost be as long as this entire thread

Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 07:46:00 - [221] Originally by: Rebellion I am able to give this truth away because it was planned so cunningly that even if we told you exactly this, no one would ever believe it. I'm sure none of you believe me now. Trust me, that's exactly according to plan. Whoa, hold on a second!! There's a plan?! - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:03:00 - [222] Originally by: Bacilius Originally by: Raid We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Buahaaaaahaaaahaahahahaa!! I fell off may chair! Ahh, Raid. You provide us with so much amusement at times . Including yourself in CDC's plan... shame on you Dont kid yourself. If we didnt have as many enemies as we did you wouldnt have even constructed that outpost. We were havin too much fun shooting ISS to even bother with you. Had we just naped all your allies you wouldnt be here. Until we attacked the ISS outpost the defense systems on your POS's were laughable... In hidsight we should have just killed you then and not given you the oportunity to beef up the POS's. When you lose that station (and believe me you will lose it sooner rather than later). I will be there to show you the door.
tigress Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:10:00 - [223] Not bitter are we raid? Let's have some fun ! :)
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:19:00 - [224] Originally by: tigress Not bitter are we raid? Let's have some fun ! :) Bitter? Not at all... im happy where I am and also enjoying the sight of IAC getting sieged. POS warfare has never been our style. The post war cleanup of the area will be fun... Ill be there for that I promise.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:38:00 - [225] Cloaked and with lots of stabs i bet In rust we trust!!!
Eyeshadow Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:41:00 - [226] Originally by: Murukan Cloaked and with lots of stabs i bet Well he'd better be cos if he shows up whilst im there he'll be sure to get some antimatter up his ass My Latest Vid (18/04/06)
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:43:00 - [227] IAC are nice guys. Don't lose the outpost, pls
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:46:00 - [228] Originally by: Raid The post war cleanup of the area will be fun... Ill be there for that I promise. Great plan... let everyone else do the hard work, and you vulture in for the remains.
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:46:00 - [229] Originally by: Butter Dog IAC are nice guys. Don't lose the outpost, pls BD! Don't root against us! You were my one true love! Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:54:00 - [230] Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Butter Dog IAC are nice guys. Don't lose the outpost, pls BD! Don't root against us! You were my one true love! he roots for priory cause waywatcher spanks him like a naughty boy! In rust we trust!!!

Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 16:50:00 - [231] Originally by: Raid Originally by: Bacilius Originally by: Raid We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Buahaaaaahaaaahaahahahaa!! I fell off may chair! Ahh, Raid. You provide us with so much amusement at times . Including yourself in CDC's plan... shame on you Dont kid yourself. If we didnt have as many enemies as we did you wouldnt have even constructed that outpost. We were havin too much fun shooting ISS to even bother with you. Had we just naped all your allies you wouldnt be here. Until we attacked the ISS outpost the defense systems on your POS's were laughable... In hidsight we should have just killed you then and not given you the oportunity to beef up the POS's. When you lose that station (and believe me you will lose it sooner rather than later). I will be there to show you the door. Could've, would've, should've. No-one is impressed by "we could have, given the right circumstances". You didn't. Beating your chest now while we're defending from real enemies only serves to lower yourself further. Our POS were laughable? Maybe. They're not anymore, because we learned, see? Also, you didn't nap our allies. Again, an "if". Maybe you could've. Who cares? You didn't, we're here. We'll still be here when MC/KIA/FiX leave. It's bad enough you didn't strike when we were so "vulnerable". Crying about it in public, trying to hammer it in that you could've squashed us is only a little pathetic, because all it says is that you didn't have the foresight to act sooner, rather than later. And now you see us standing up to a force greater than you could field yourself... I bet it stings, don't it? Ship's sailed. You suck. ---- All you do is bark, you never meow.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 17:01:00 - [232] Children can you behave , please try and keep this topic on some sort of track.
Gavin Kineli Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2006.10.13 17:38:00 - [233] Originally by: Raem Civrie Originally by: Raid Originally by: Bacilius Originally by: Raid We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Buahaaaaahaaaahaahahahaa!! I fell off may chair! Ahh, Raid. You provide us with so much amusement at times . Including yourself in CDC's plan... shame on you Dont kid yourself. If we didnt have as many enemies as we did you wouldnt have even constructed that outpost. We were havin too much fun shooting ISS to even bother with you. Had we just naped all your allies you wouldnt be here. Until we attacked the ISS outpost the defense systems on your POS's were laughable... In hidsight we should have just killed you then and not given you the oportunity to beef up the POS's. When you lose that station (and believe me you will lose it sooner rather than later). I will be there to show you the door. Could've, would've, should've. No-one is impressed by "we could have, given the right circumstances". You didn't. Beating your chest now while we're defending from real enemies only serves to lower yourself further. Our POS were laughable? Maybe. They're not anymore, because we learned, see? Also, you didn't nap our allies. Again, an "if". Maybe you could've. Who cares? You didn't, we're here. We'll still be here when MC/KIA/FiX leave. It's bad enough you didn't strike when we were so "vulnerable". Crying about it in public, trying to hammer it in that you could've squashed us is only a little pathetic, because all it says is that you didn't have the foresight to act sooner, rather than later. And now you see us standing up to a force greater than you could field yourself... I bet it stings, don't it? Ship's sailed. You suck. Well played.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 18:47:00 - [234] Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Butter Dog IAC are nice guys. Don't lose the outpost, pls BD! Don't root against us! You were my one true love! Oh, I'm not taking sides... best of luck to you both :) I like IAC and MC loads, so I'm a bit torn, thats all.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.13 20:23:00 - [235] Edited by: Raid on 13/10/2006 20:26:44 Originally by: Raem Civrie Could've, would've, should've. No-one is impressed by "we could have, given the right circumstances". You didn't. Beating your chest now while we're defending from real enemies only serves to lower yourself further. Our POS were laughable? Maybe. They're not anymore, because we learned, see? Also, you didn't nap our allies. Again, an "if". Maybe you could've. Who cares? You didn't, we're here. We'll still be here when MC/KIA/FiX leave. It's bad enough you didn't strike when we were so "vulnerable". Crying about it in public, trying to hammer it in that you could've squashed us is only a little pathetic, because all it says is that you didn't have the foresight to act sooner, rather than later. And now you see us standing up to a force greater than you could field yourself... I bet it stings, don't it? Ship's sailed. You suck. Beating my chest about what? We could have in the right circumstances but those circumstances never happened so we did nothing. I acknowledged that and like I said im happy where I am and enjoying the show. I originally commented about how the MC strat was very similar to what we drew up a long time ago. It got twisted into this garbage by joe blow carebear from your alliance making a smartass comment. Yeah your POS's were laughable until we attacked the ISS outpost. Two days later they became deathstars. We played it badly... we should have just napped your allies and taken you out instead of playing with ISS (we had no intention of keeping their station for longer than 24 hours btw, it was just for fun). Lesson learnt.. doesnt change the fact that you're going to lose that pretty outpost of yours. edit: just to add.. it doesnt sting in the slightest to see you defending your outpost. Whats happening now is exactly what we knew would happen if we tried it. Hence the reason we would nap all your allies so you would be on your own. What do you think would happen if CVA, Goons, AXE didnt come to your rescue against MC?
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 20:33:00 - [236] Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 13/10/2006 20:26:44 Originally by: Raem Civrie Could've, would've, should've. No-one is impressed by "we could have, given the right circumstances". You didn't. Beating your chest now while we're defending from real enemies only serves to lower yourself further. Our POS were laughable? Maybe. They're not anymore, because we learned, see? Also, you didn't nap our allies. Again, an "if". Maybe you could've. Who cares? You didn't, we're here. We'll still be here when MC/KIA/FiX leave. It's bad enough you didn't strike when we were so "vulnerable". Crying about it in public, trying to hammer it in that you could've squashed us is only a little pathetic, because all it says is that you didn't have the foresight to act sooner, rather than later. And now you see us standing up to a force greater than you could field yourself... I bet it stings, don't it? Ship's sailed. You suck. Beating my chest about what? We could have in the right circumstances but those circumstances never happened so we did nothing. I acknowledged that and like I said im happy where I am and enjoying the show. I originally commented about how the MC strat was very similar to what we drew up a long time ago. It got twisted into this garbage by joe blow carebear from your alliance making a smartass comment. Yeah your POS's were laughable until we attacked the ISS outpost. Two days later they became deathstars. We played it badly... we should have just napped your allies and taken you out instead of playing with ISS (we had no intention of keeping their station for longer than 24 hours btw, it was just for fun). Lesson learnt.. doesnt change the fact that you're going to lose that pretty outpost of yours. edit: just to add.. it doesnt sting in the slightest to see you defending your outpost. Whats happening now is exactly what we knew would happen if we tried it. Hence the reason we would nap all your allies so you would be on your own. What do you think would happen if CVA, Goons, AXE didnt come to your rescue against MC? I treasure the fact that CVA, Goonfleet and AXE came to our aid more than anything else in relation to IAC. It tells me that we've made a difference over the past few months. ---- All you do is bark, you never meow.
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 20:34:00 - [237] Originally by: Raid ..... What do you think would happen if CVA, Goons, AXE didnt come to your rescue against MC? I'm sure the outcome would be different, but we would still be laughing at Tyrell Corp and especially you Raid.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 20:34:00 - [238] Theorycraft more and lose yourself in your delusions of granduer In rust we trust!!!
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 20:38:00 - [239] Originally by: n sx Originally by: Raid ..... What do you think would happen if CVA, Goons, AXE didnt come to your rescue against MC? I'm sure the outcome would be different, but we would still be laughing at Tyrell Corp and especially you Raid. careful n sx they might load up the stabs and come cloak nearby you In rust we trust!!!
tigress Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:02:00 - [240] Hey Raid, stop usurping our forum post. History is just that. We all know you hate us. Next!

celous Caldari Dark Skyes	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:38:00 - [241] mm Great story and all but one thing annoyed me the most was the GM put there nose init where it didnt belong!! Why did the GM acted this way? i am sorry but no reason for this act and ruin the porpse of the game! yet i feel MC could of won if they didnt mess around
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 22:49:00 - [242] Originally by: celous mm Great story and all but one thing annoyed me the most was the GM put there nose init where it didnt belong!! Why did the GM acted this way? i am sorry but no reason for this act and ruin the porpse of the game! yet i feel MC could of won if they didnt mess around You feel MC could have won against the odds they faced when we crashed the node? Wow... just... wow. Don't let MC spin a web of GMs giving IAC anything. Node crashes mean reimbursement petitions and lots of them. GMs must get involved if they can prevent unneeded petitions. We were petitioned for exploiting cans by FIX/MC and the GMs came. So bullocks to MC for trying to make it seem the GMs were not wanted in this battle by them. I don't know why people think the GMs acted unfairly. We took the brunt of the node crashes and noone on our side knew that we didn't retake the outpost when we got it back because of a node crash. The whole op was a distaster for both sides that day. Any IAC that diliberately exploited ( by that I mean gained something against the explicit word of the GM in local ) should be petitioned by MC. Its as simple as that. Noone here wants a unfair fight... oh wait... looking at the MC killboards nodecrash kills are posted in their favor. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 23:24:00 - [243] Edited by: Grimster on 13/10/2006 23:25:14 Sorry had to lol. We take an outpost (afterall this was/is your home) you can be damned sure everyone in alliance knows about it, so let's see... Lesser of two evils? Half a dozen losses because of random warp-ins to station or the loss of an outpost. The numbers are slightly skewed, but as I/we have said before we got screwed by the game, it's just a matter of degrees of how that was taken advantage of. Less spin please, what's done is done, stick your hands up and say what was what and leave it, sure we killed a few ships but the trade off was we lost a 30 billion isk outpost and staging area. You do the math. The Dark Lord consults the Force under his tinfoil helm..
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 23:27:00 - [244] Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 13/10/2006 23:28:46 Grimster are you serious ? You lost an outpost you hadn't even gained control of and had no chance of acquiring sovereignity of , wow big loss there ! Your argument here is seriously dumb, there's a reason they call it station ping pong and it's that it's no big deal if you lose it or gain it when nobody has sovereignity. PS; I don't think Raid hates us, how could he hate me f.i. ? I'm cuddly. http://eve.klaki.net/
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 23:30:00 - [245] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 13/10/2006 23:28:46 Grimster are you serious ? You lost an outpost you hadn't even gained control of and had no chance of acquiring sovereignity of , wow big loss there ! Your argument here is seriously dumb, there's a reason they call it station ping pong and it's that it's no big deal if you lose it or gain it when nobody has sovereignity. PS; I don't think Raid hates us, how could he hate me f.i. ? I'm cuddly. Less smack more fact, outpost was at 95% shields and it was handed to you. Get serious yourself. Arrogance is not really a laudable quality. The Dark Lord consults the Force under his tinfoil helm..
Alfarinn Amarr FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 23:38:00 - [246] Edited by: Alfarinn on 13/10/2006 23:40:09 Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk stuff more stuff We could explore the what-if's for another 5 pages, but then we'd all end-up sounding bitter like Raid does
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.14 01:53:00 - [247] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk PS; I don't think Raid hates us, how could he hate me f.i. ? I'm cuddly. Its a game... i dont hate anyone...
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 03:32:00 - [248] Quote: Less smack more fact, outpost was at 95% shields and it was handed to you. Get serious yourself. Arrogance is not really a laudable quality. Here's a couple of facts for ya lil newbie; Nobody handed the outpost to us, node crash made it briefly messed up, GMs were not involved in this at all, you still got ISK from repairs etc but we were able to dock and you weren't. Secondly, the difference this had on our lil war was negligible, do you honestly think MC having the outpost until downtime (or longer for that matter) would have actually helped you when we fielded 320 people for the "out of reinforced coming" of our first deathstar ? Leave the propaganda and spin to your superiors, you don't even have the facts straight. http://eve.klaki.net/
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 03:32:00 - [249] Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 03:54:00 - [250] Originally by: Tribunal Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . I love reading quotes like this. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.

Thundirr	Posted - 2006.10.14 04:14:00 - [251] ...Recalls camping gate in frig gang on a beer induced death run and being evenly matched in numbers with MC and the dont engage in their T2 fitted ships... guess the beer induces frig raid vs T2 ships w/ fittings is the best way to go. Pass the beer!
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 05:09:00 - [252] heh atleast IRON is willing to engage. Was a funny battle though i think there were 4 different alliance gangs in ZX for that fight, ascn/iac/-M-/Iron. I thought i was pretty **** cause there were about 15 on overview, but it turned out half was a different gang hehe. <3 cluster battles. In rust we trust!!!**
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 05:16:00 - [253] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Here's a couple of facts for ya lil newbie; ^^ Blatant, arrogant smack. Grimster has been playing this game as long as you have, Tyyrax. This is beneath you and will only serve to make things personal when they don't need to be. Quote: Nobody handed the outpost to us, node crash made it briefly messed up, The game's broken code sure as hell did. Briefly? You were able to dock and move ships out of it (with and without GM assistance) for the better part of eighteen hours. GMs were not involved in this at all, you still got ISK from repairs etc but we were able to dock and you weren't. Quote: Secondly, the difference this had on our lil war was negligible, do you honestly think MC having the outpost until downtime (or longer for that matter) would have actually helped you when we fielded 320 people for the "out of reinforced coming" of our first deathstar ? You didn't have 320 people when I woke up. And what you did have got taken down, then we took the station back again. Quote: Leave the propaganda and spin to your superiors, you don't even have the facts straight. Grim may not have all the facts, but he's not the one trying to spin things ATM, Ty. This war has barely even started and you seem to think you have all the answers / facts. You don't. Neither do I, but you might want to take a step back with these posts of yours and just wait and see how things play out. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 05:30:00 - [254] Edited by: Murukan on 14/10/2006 05:30:10 mmm sel how personal you want to make it? Some candles, a bottle of wine, coughs i mean erm... Shooty shooty? In rust we trust!!!
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 05:59:00 - [255] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Tribunal Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . I love reading quotes like this. :) You know, I guess what I posted could be read as smack (which it's not). FFS though, if you bring in a cruiser/frig gang, and we have a cruiser/frig gang, then bring it on. Just getting a bit depressing that the only "decient" fight we had all night was the IRON fight in ZXIC, and that wasn't even a thrilling fight as we had them badly outnumbered. "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 06:10:00 - [256] Edited by: Jouni Kalmar on 14/10/2006 06:13:53 Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 14/10/2006 05:21:47 Quote: Nobody handed the outpost to us, node crash made it briefly messed up, The game's broken code sure as hell did. Briefly? You were able to dock and move ships out of it (with and without GM assistance) for the better part of eighteen hours. Boo hoo, as tyrrax said, u still got all the isk, refine taxes, market taxes, it probably MADE you isk by us being able to dock, buy, refine, repair and all those other stationy things. Fact is you didn't have sov and wether you like it or not, you weren't going to hold it for long after we got sov back anyway, sure u may have got more kills but thats about it. Originally by: Seleene Quote: Secondly, the difference this had on our lil war was negligible, do you honestly think MC having the outpost until downtime (or longer for that matter) would have actually helped you when we fielded 320 people for the "out of reinforced coming" of our first deathstar ? We'll never know, will we?? Oh, and you didn't have 320 people when I woke up. And what you did have got taken down, then we took the station back again. I don't think i even SAW u online and i was running 3+ characters the entire time when i was home. Yes we did have 320+ people. What we did have wasn't all taken down, i know you didn't say all but its implied. Don't think i lost a ship aside from a taranis. Originally by: Seleene Quote: Leave the propaganda and spin to your superiors, you don't even have the facts straight. Grim may not have all the facts, but he's not the one trying to spin things ATM, Ty. This war has barely even started and you seem to think you have all the answers / facts. You don't. Neither do I, but you might want to take a step back with these posts of yours and just wait and see how things play out. Yes yes we already know you're coming back, why don't you just tell us when so we can roll out the welcome waggon, nether the less you'll have alot less free time next time you guys show up. Originally by: Seleene BTW, did you actually attack one of our gangs with Armour Maintenance Drones tonight? ROFL, drunk swarm FTW! Edit: BTW: I must thank you for being able to remove the LV campers from RNF, they're finally gone... well for now, they'll no doubt be back. Cloaked + stabs + run away from every fight FTL...
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:11:00 - [257] I think this is something neither side is going to agree on and both have our own point of views. So lets let it drop grab our geddons with heavy armour drone bots and help to heal our enemies .
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:32:00 - [258] Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 14/10/2006 09:35:31 Panic'd ? me ? I just sicced them on him for a laugh, didn't have any combat drones and couldn't hit a harpy at 5 km with Tachyons. Why don't you ask the guy in the pilgrim there if I panicced Glad to see you're all so exstatic about taking out one of my armas, you'd think it was the Imperial one from all the fuss Oh and maybe you should come back in strength enough to actually be relevant ? As it is you're boosting our industrial operations by clearing out the LV from RNF so we can get back to afk mining arkonor in our carriers. http://eve.klaki.net/
LANAA NOPHEX PRISIM Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:51:00 - [259] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Glad to see you're all so exstatic about taking out one of my armas, you'd think it was the Imperial one from all the fuss . You probably had the GM's move it for you anyway tbh Tyraxx.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 09:55:00 - [260] Good to see another smack free conflict :) What with this and BoB/ASCN its party time on this forum... more fun than actually logging in.

Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:57:00 - [261] Getting your stuff (dread,ships,cargo,fuel anything you could ram inside a ships cargo) moved out of the system by a gm is very direct interference. We gained a few free kills which we got because we reformed at the station whilst you reformed at a ss. If you held the station in a military manner you'd have got the free kills. We all got randomly warped just like you. I ended up on the gate with 5 iac battleships on my own couple of times due to **ty warps. Difference is we managed to use the bad situation and continue doing our job. So while you could have done what we did and gained kills you didnt... there is no way we could have changed the gm's decision to effect your freebies. Those are 2 very different advantages and to try to spin it like we gained ** from it is ludicris... oh we made couple of million from repairs costs, yes I'm sure that 2mil will help us create the element of surprise again lol As for not getting decent fight of us you had one yesterday in f4 @ 1p gate we jumped through gate into the IAC forces.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:14:00 - [262] Originally by: Tribunal Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Tribunal Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . I love reading quotes like this. :) You know, I guess what I posted could be read as smack (which it's not). FFS though, if you bring in a cruiser/frig gang, and we have a cruiser/frig gang, then bring it on. Just getting a bit depressing that the only "decient" fight we had all night was the IRON fight in ZXIC, and that wasn't even a thrilling fight as we had them badly outnumbered. :) We like a challenge, but engaging that would've been downright stupid. You had 20-25 in gang, we had 15 in gang. You had us outnumbered in cruisers and frigates by approx 5 in each class. I "scouted" you as you jumped into F4R (25% armor, phew) and managed to make a scan of your little squad while running like a little girl. Seeing what you had and what we had, we didn't really see a challenge in that one. :) Maybe if you had tried to camp us in inside Jamunda and spread over the two gates... :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Jnr Rau The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:27:00 - [263] Anyone here a real docter.. cause there are plenty of spin docters thats for sure. I was in G-7 local when the crap about IAC getting moved out of G-7 happened... I could post local chat showing Mcfix forces complaining about being stuck trying to get out. Those of us in the station were ordered not to undock during the cease fire by GM Ginger and to my knowledge this was adhered to. He was allowing MC combatants to leave the system and continue playing the game, this did also include a couple of IAC pilots who made it to various gates, not the other way around. Most of IAC was logging off because we were losing ships to the random warps. It was actually safer to be in the outpost and wait for a clone jump timer to tick away then clone jump out. In terms of the node crash and outpost bugs, they made no difference at all to the final outcome thus far. Sel its a nicely written post about the happenings of last weekend from your point of view. Maybe this weekend you'll have something more exciting to write about, but I doubt it unless you pass the spin doctor class exam which is scheduled for manlove sunday, all of mcfix and friends are welcome. GF's to all and may the drunkswarms reign supreme
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:35:00 - [264] Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Originally by: Seleene Quote: Secondly, the difference this had on our lil war was negligible, do you honestly think MC having the outpost until downtime (or longer for that matter) would have actually helped you when we fielded 320 people for the "out of reinforced coming" of our first deathstar ? We'll never know, will we?? Oh, and you didn't have 320 people when I woke up. And what you did have got taken down, then we took the station back again. I don't think i even SAW u online and i was running 3+ characters the entire time when i was home. Yes we did have 320+ people. What we did have wasn't all taken down, i know you didn't say all but its implied. Don't think i lost a ship aside from a taranis. Seleene was on his alt that morning and he gets directly informed by his FCs of the state of the field when he happens to not be online. :) Especially for the more vocal FCs in the MC, it's really nice to fly another character than your main for a change if you fancy surviving a battle. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:47:00 - [265] Gotta admit this is starting to make hysterical reading, back in World War2 Online we used to joke that the Axis players whined so much and what they really wanted was a permission to die button, now i'd love to see the official figures on who petitions the most ship losses in this conflict/game, MC or IAC ??? i bet that'd be a right truth teller eh........ I remember this classic line posted in G7 Local Quote: Petition window closed I want to die quietly in my sleep just like my dear old grandma, and not screaming in terror like her passengers!!
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 13:08:00 - [266] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk As it is you're boosting our industrial operations by keeping LV from RNF so we can get back to afk mining arkonor in our carriers. ATTENTION -LV-!!! afaik, you guys are blue to the MC. Might talk to Eddz, but I see no reason you can't continue to bother the bears should you get your standings sorted. Maybe learn to play nice w/ FIX too ;) @Tyrrax - I dunno. You sure seemed rather cross after that gank. You made poor Hans sad :(. Play nice, mmkay? Turn the other cheek and all that? Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Dracolich North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.10.14 13:48:00 - [267] Nice story, Seleene. Sounds like heck of fun, and some things not so fun. I haven't read all pages, but at first it seems like all were very friendly in the beginning of the thread, and then now its reduced to - well, anything but. From what I have been reading, both sides should be very proud of themselves.
krissi79 FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.14 14:44:00 - [268] Playing nice with FIX hehe Lets just say FIX have brought more friends to IAC side making your battle harder bla bla bla , my talk here dont reflect LV leadership bla bla
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 15:52:00 - [269] Originally by: krissi79 Playing nice with FIX hehe Lets just say FIX have brought more friends to IAC side making your battle harder bla bla bla , my talk here dont reflect LV leadership bla bla You make it sound like thats bad for us lol.... more targets = good :)
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 16:10:00 - [270] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Tribunal Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Tribunal Meh, fighting forces that are obsessed with K/D ratio is turning out to be boring . I love reading quotes like this. :) You know, I guess what I posted could be read as smack (which it's not). FFS though, if you bring in a cruiser/frig gang, and we have a cruiser/frig gang, then bring it on. Just getting a bit depressing that the only "decient" fight we had all night was the IRON fight in ZXIC, and that wasn't even a thrilling fight as we had them badly outnumbered. :) We like a challenge, but engaging that would've been downright stupid. You had 20-25 in gang, we had 15 in gang. You had us outnumbered in cruisers and frigates by approx 5 in each class. I "scouted" you as you jumped into F4R (25% armor, phew) and managed to make a scan of your little squad while running like a little girl. Seeing what you had and what we had, we didn't really see a challenge in that one. :) Maybe if you had tried to camp us in inside Jamunda and spread over the two gates... :) places his tin foil hat tightly on his head Meh, c'mon! Since you guys are BoB alts (and we know that if enough BoB characters just stare at a system long enough on the map that PoSs explode and outposts melt, without them even being in the system!) ya'll could have spanked us. need pew, pew "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers

Sev Renard Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.10.14 17:45:00 - [271] Originally by: Firane Didn't you get the memo? ESA are FIX alts, who are alts of MC, who are alts of BoB, who are Dev mains. Wait a sec... which dev am I then?
Cicilus Hadrican Caldari Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 18:04:00 - [272] Originally by: Raid Originally by: n sx Originally by: Raid ..... What do you think would happen if CVA, Goons, AXE didnt come to your rescue against MC? I'm sure the outcome would be different, but we would still be laughing at Tyrell Corp and especially you Raid. Im sure the first thing you will do after losing yout two outposts will be to laugh at Tyrell for moving on to new things. I didnt want to get into this trolling, but I have to. I think it was you sir that said "CC will still be here, where will you be" I know your plans to pick CC back up when your cards are played right. But dropping the CC name, and then your chest beating makes me repect you alot less. But what do you care right? And what makes you think that you woulda taken our station? sure you could have at first, but you think our alies woundnt be there for us then? CVA, Huzzah, while they ben around and others would have rallied and aided IAC in thier time of need then! And if we lose the two outposts, believe me, we'll get them back. Whoever hired the MC FIX Storm Arm, and KIA believe they can hold those two outposts under their control. They seriously need to re-evaluate the situation that they are about to enter You sir need to just sit down, relax and have fun. What you shoulda done is over, only thing you can do now is embrace the future IAC is still here and will be here.
Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 18:31:00 - [273] Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican Edited by: Cicilus Hadrican on 14/10/2006 18:10:04 I replied to raid thinking he was on page 9 <---noob feel free to look up the history of this post lol Raid who?
Hani EQ Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.14 19:45:00 - [274] Nice summary Seleene, thanx. They say a picture says a thousand words, so we hope this movie says more. Seleene, any chance of getting this vid linked into your main post?: McFix G-7 Battle Vid With Compliments, Fix. Hani EQ - IT
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.14 19:52:00 - [275] Originally by: Hani EQ Nice summary Seleene, thanx. They say a picture says a thousand words, so we hope this movie says more. Seleene, any chance of getting this vid linked into your main post?: McFix G-7 Battle Vid With Compliments, Fix. DONE! - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Alfarinn FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 06:12:00 - [276] Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk As it is you're boosting our industrial operations by keeping LV from RNF so we can get back to afk mining arkonor in our carriers. ATTENTION -LV-!!! afaik, you guys are blue to the MC. Might talk to Eddz, but I see no reason you can't continue to bother the bears should you get your standings sorted. To be honest we're feeling rather flattered that the bears have got 2 Merc corps asking for more help to complete this contract Although I've been a little angel through-out this thread I'd just like to counter whine against all the whines about what could have happened. Seleene made a good post in which s/he (you never know these days, natch) asked the question about what could have happened without the node crashes. The answer is IAC would have prevailed if you're on the IAC side, or IAC would have crashed (cough) and burned if you're on the McFix side. Obviously if either side has any serious reason to believe the outcome would have been different then they should petition the GM's, rather than complain about them on the forums. Personally I'm looking forward to Seleene's next thread
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 06:22:00 - [277] Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk As it is you're boosting our industrial operations by keeping LV from RNF so we can get back to afk mining arkonor in our carriers. ATTENTION -LV-!!! afaik, you guys are blue to the MC. Might talk to Eddz, but I see no reason you can't continue to bother the bears should you get your standings sorted. Maybe learn to play nice w/ FIX too ;) @Tyrrax - I dunno. You sure seemed rather cross after that gank. You made poor Hans sad :(. Play nice, mmkay? Turn the other cheek and all that? LV and Fix friends lol i don't see that happening soon. And is this a subtle call for help? I thought that's just what us silly iac carebears do!! In rust we trust!!!
Twoside Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.15 09:27:00 - [278] Thanks for the great read, most appreciated :) (didnt read the other 9 pages though, sorry)
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.15 09:52:00 - [279] I have to laugh at some posts in this thread. It doesn't matter what is written here as at the end of the contract IAC will either own that space and stations or the forces arrayed against them will withdraw after failing their objective. So really it comes down to who has the most determination to see their desired outcome be the one that comes to pass. Personally in my short time in the MC I've never known us not hit a challenge and then adapt and overcome and am dedicated to seeing those stations fall. Finally we have alarm clocks and are not afraid to use them.
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.15 10:02:00 - [280] Originally by: Hans Roaming I have to laugh at some posts in this thread. It doesn't matter what is written here as at the end of the contract IAC will either own that space and stations or the forces arrayed against them will withdraw after failing their objective. Lose-lose situation i'd say. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.

Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 10:07:00 - [281] Originally by: Hans Roaming IAC will either own that space and stations or the forces arrayed against them will withdraw after failing their objective. If thats our choices, Hans, I choose both! Think you meant differently though...
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.15 11:26:00 - [282] Originally by: Sev Renard Wait a sec... which dev am I then? Tux, amirite? -----------
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.15 11:37:00 - [283] Edited by: Seleene on 15/10/2006 11:36:51 Originally by: Bacilius Originally by: Hans Roaming IAC will either own that space and stations or the forces arrayed against them will withdraw after failing their objective. If thats our choices, Hans, I choose both! Think you meant differently though... You all will have to forgive Hans. Ever since he learned to use Spike L and stopped mining he's been a bit out of it. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Semkhet The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 12:59:00 - [284] Edited by: Semkhet on 15/10/2006 13:04:13 Well, IMO it's more than that. If IAC can resist and finally hold its space & ressources against such high-profile foes like MC, Fix And Co, in the future it will induce entities to think twice before attempting a remake. On another hand, I've noticed with satisfaction that The Priory has a positive killratio on MC's killboard. Unfortunately we still are the only ones in this position within the Alliance and it would be cool if other IAC's corps realize that they could counter the attrition they face by using discipline, common sense, intel and good comms. It's true that till now, skirmishes between MC and The Priory might be considered of marginal significance, since we usually don't fall in their traps and they seldom fall in ours, hence the very small amount of reciprocical material damages despite the sustained focus of both sides. Interesting & enjoyable times indeed
Pakmule Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 13:10:00 - [285] The end result of this conflict will be IAC in control of JZV. The forces arrayed against us have underestimated our desire to protect our home and the number of our friends. Feel free to visit the IAC store on the way out and buy a memento for the family.
Alfarinn FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 14:21:00 - [286] Originally by: Pakmule Feel free to visit the IAC store on the way out and buy a memento for the family. I believe DHB FooFighter's "My alliance went to G7 and all I got was this s****y T-Shirt" garments are selling well.
Hani EQ Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.15 16:16:00 - [287] Seleene, Any chance you can update the link to the Vid? My bandwidth alloaction got chewed in a very short time yesterday. Here is a mirror, Shouldn't have any probs with this one: http://www.clansvt.com/SAE/HanisDarkRoom_G7_Battle.avi Hani EQ - IT
Alfarinn FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 16:25:00 - [288] Originally by: Hani EQ Seleene, Any chance you can update the link to the Vid? My bandwidth alloaction got chewed in a very short time yesterday. Here is a mirror, Shouldn't have any probs with this one: http://www.clansvt.com/SAE/HanisDarkRoom_G7_Battle.avi Could always try eve-files matey.
Hani EQ Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.15 16:47:00 - [289] Originally by: Alfarinn Originally by: Hani EQ Seleene, Any chance you can update the link to the Vid? My bandwidth alloaction got chewed in a very short time yesterday. Here is a mirror, Shouldn't have any probs with this one: http://www.clansvt.com/SAE/HanisDarkRoom_G7_Battle.avi Could always try eve-files matey. Yup. Tried to upload it to eve-files three times today. Each time it got about 3-4hours into the upload and failed . Should be all sorted now. If there are any more probs, I'll split it down into 10MB .rar chunks and put them up on eve-files. Hopefully, it won't be necessary. Hani EQ - IT
Alfarinn FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 16:58:00 - [290] Originally by: Hani EQ Originally by: Alfarinn Originally by: Hani EQ Here is a mirror, Shouldn't have any probs with this one: http://www.clansvt.com/SAE/HanisDarkRoom_G7_Battle.avi stuff Yup. Tried to upload it to eve-files three times today. Each time it got about 3-4hours into the upload and failed . ... Eeek 400Mb! Perhaps convert it to *.wmv, that should compress it quite a bit. If not then good-luck with the upload

Hani EQ Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.15 17:11:00 - [291] Eeek 400Mb! Perhaps convert it to *.wmv, that should compress it quite a bit. If not then good-luck with the upload Should be 243MB m8. Nice size for a 10min video @1152x864 res :) Hani EQ - IT
BlackHorizon Caldari Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 17:40:00 - [292] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 15/10/2006 17:42:24 Originally by: Hans Roaming Finally we have alarm clocks and are not afraid to use them. Well, we may not have your fancy alarm clocks, but we have Australians!
Alfarinn FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 17:45:00 - [293] Originally by: Hani EQ Eeek 400Mb! Perhaps convert it to *.wmv, that should compress it quite a bit. If not then good-luck with the upload Should be 243MB m8. Nice size for a 10min video @1152x864 res :) Bugger me, sherry went to my head, not sure where I read 400 from :/
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 18:02:00 - [294] Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 15/10/2006 17:42:24 Originally by: Hans Roaming Finally we have alarm clocks and are not afraid to use them. Well, we may not have your fancy alarm clocks, but we have Australians! Not anymore. Alcohol poisoning's wiped out our Pacific Corps. ---- All you do is bark, you never meow.
EagleHawk RockClimber Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.15 18:29:00 - [295] Edited by: EagleHawk RockClimber on 15/10/2006 18:31:36 TEST TEST THIS IS MY MAIN AND whicever moderator deleted my POS put it back... OK I see what the problem was my corp and alliance were not checked.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 18:38:00 - [296] Originally by: Semkhet On another hand, I've noticed with satisfaction that The Priory has a positive killratio on MC's killboard. Unfortunately we still are the only ones in this position within the Alliance and it would be cool if other IAC's corps realize that they could counter the attrition they face by using discipline, common sense, intel and good comms. /me writes down. good comms, discipline, and common sense. thats Brilliant! ok guys i got us a new plan. :)
Alfarinn FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 22:20:00 - [297] [VIDEO] G-7WUF Redeux
Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.15 23:19:00 - [298] Originally by: Raem Civrie Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 15/10/2006 17:42:24 Originally by: Hans Roaming Finally we have alarm clocks and are not afraid to use them. Well, we may not have your fancy alarm clocks, but we have Australians! Not anymore. Alcohol poisoning's wiped out our Pacific Corps. Wretch Hack Cough Gag Gag Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrpp 'Scuse me. Hairy of the dog, Raem. Pass me the beernuts... Ya reckon we could swing by the Bottleshop and grab another six-pack on our way to pew pew pew tonight? I need to drink off this hangover..
Jnr Rau The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 00:32:00 - [299] Pass me a 6 pack Bacilius I'm off to pew pew pew again and need to get over this hangover so I can focus.
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 04:04:00 - [300] Current EVE time: 04:00 Status: Thundirr is sitting in his ship biting his fingernails. Thus far the evening has been insane.

Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.16 04:28:00 - [301] This evening the CVA sent another small fleet down to help our friends in IAC defend themselves against this unprovoked, vicious and barbaric attack. Enroute to IAC territory we encountered a D2 battlefleet and proceeded to destroy three of their Scorpion battleships. Sadly, several of the notorious pirates escaped however the CVA suffered no losses during the engagement - greatly improving morale within the fleet. Two systems out and we discovered that our path was blocked by a FIX group. However, our scouts reported that they were not blockading the gates and we proceeded into IAC central. Taking up formation at the gate where we had just arrived we awaited the arrival of the evil attackers who are seeking to destroy the peace loving, beer drinking, IAC alliance. We recieved reports that the Mercenary Coalition were jumping in elsewhere and IAC forces warped off to engage them. Our scouts reported that the more numerous (than the CVA) FIX fleet had approached the gate and were also jumping in. We girded our loins and waited for action. Unfortunately, at this precise moment some ungodly device (probably Minmatar in origin) succeeded in crashing all our ship control systems. By the time the CVA fleet regained control we were scattered across the solar system and FIX had passed the gate. Over the course of the evening CVA forces have provided backup to our worthy compatriots but have not seen significant combat as yet with the exception of killing a couple of pods and providing shield support to a POS. By all accounts things are progressing well with substantial losses amongst the attackers - but who knows where the dastardly mercenaries will strike next. Events are in the balance. As a sidenote my sister Siobhan took the opportunity to preach to the assembled throng in local addressing many comments to the gathered Amarrians. When a randy Gallente tried to interrupt she directed him to this excellent post about lust. Amarr Victor ------------------------------
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 04:38:00 - [302] by the looks of the killboard all that can be said is drunkswarm for the win! Oh and physics homework for the loss In rust we trust!!!
Drazhar Kain Alpha Production Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 04:59:00 - [303] Edited by: Drazhar Kain on 16/10/2006 04:59:52 It's time to break out the Stroh.
Jnr Rau The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 05:01:00 - [304] Looks like a very expensive night so far for MCfixKIA.. The IAC kb's are showing very minimal losses and some fantastic teamwork from our alliance friends and supporters in defending the forward outpost in F4R. I'm unsure what the lag situation was like... but damn folks save some kills for the "working" aussies coming to reinforce the ranks shortly... Seleene can we get an update from your side of things how you view the past week/weekends activities?
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 05:12:00 - [305] we haven't won yet guys, lets refrain from saying anything until its over. Thx
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 05:21:00 - [306] The unofficial response is: "nuts" LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
Emeline Cabernet Amarr KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.16 05:59:00 - [307] Originally by: Hans Roaming I have to laugh at some posts in this thread. It doesn't matter what is written here as at the end of the contract IAC will either own that space and stations or the forces arrayed against them will withdraw after failing their objective. So really it comes down to who has the most determination to see their desired outcome be the one that comes to pass. Personally in my short time in the MC I've never known us not hit a challenge and then adapt and overcome and am dedicated to seeing those stations fall. Finally we have alarm clocks and are not afraid to use them. how does it feel to shot old friends?
putukas Enterprise Estonia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.16 07:05:00 - [308] awesome stuff to read. Best evestory i have read so far. The story was very similar to -V- LV coalition siege on RA c-j6 system. Becouse of the high ammount of strontium in POS and server lag and crashes we also didnt accomplish our mission. With the game mechanics at the moment its nearly impossible to take over system with heavy military POS defending it and hostiles giving somekind of activity against you. Anyway very good job Seleene!
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.10.16 07:13:00 - [309] Looks like a ton of fun, but damn people, dont you have lives? I looked at the KB about 2400hrs my time and then there were no action at all to be noticed! Also, serious question, you know I dont smack or flame so: What is AXE doing in this? What do you stand to gain? What is your reason? Is IAC considered a closer ally than ASCN as I would imagine that AXE helping them would be more likely? Or are you doing both? Sorry if this has been covered all ready but I thought I'd ask. Regards, Lowa - back to work... What if the truth was something else?
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 07:18:00 - [310] We helped Huzzah in the V2 war, they owed us one. which has been repaid in full + more i must say. hats off to the AXE pilots who came tonight :)

Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 07:25:00 - [311] DHB is just being modest, the truth is we're just way sexier than ASCN, we are quite simply irresistible, both to hostiles and to friends. I mean, how could anyone resist this ? http://eve.klaki.net/
NightHawk VenGarden Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 07:34:00 - [312] We were glad to be there and help out. Hats off to MC, FIX, CVA, and IAC for some great fights! Glad that after the node died and came back the lag cleared up some and allowed for decent, even if they were sparatic, engagements. Axiom Empire You're not afraid of the dark...are you?
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 07:36:00 - [313] Originally by: Lowa Looks like a ton of fun, but damn people, dont you have lives? I looked at the KB about 2400hrs my time and then there were no action at all to be noticed! Also, serious question, you know I dont smack or flame so: What is AXE doing in this? What do you stand to gain? What is your reason? Is IAC considered a closer ally than ASCN as I would imagine that AXE helping them would be more likely? Or are you doing both? Edit: Or was it just that you passed through with guns blazing heading somewhere else? Sorry if this has been covered all ready but I thought I'd ask. Regards, Lowa - back to work... HI Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Engad Tanon Enterprise Estonia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.16 07:41:00 - [314] very nice post
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.16 07:46:00 - [315] Originally by: Latex Mistress The unofficial response is: "nuts" in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA I want to die quietly in my sleep just like my dear old grandma, and not screaming in terror like her passengers!!
Adril Alatar Minmatar No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:20:00 - [316] Originally by: Del369 in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA You mean IACVAXE?
Krystian Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:33:00 - [317] How can we forget an old freind who helped us in Huzzah?
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:36:00 - [318] Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: Del369 in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA You mean IACVAXE? I do, my apologies, was on caffine 1 of 3, and her Rubberness's comment about nuts and thoughts of vices span me out a tad I want to die quietly in my sleep just like my dear old grandma, and not screaming in terror like her passengers!!
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:38:00 - [319] Edited by: Hardin on 16/10/2006 08:39:10 "When true friends meet in adverse hour; 'Tis like a sunbeam through a shower. A watery way an instant seen, The darkly closing clouds between." - Sir Walter Scott ------------------------------
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:38:00 - [320] Well that, my friends, was the most monumentally awesome time I've had in eve for the last couple of months. Props to MC and FIX and the others for really bringing it It's nice to finally be all shooty shooty with fix again Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.

Ifni Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:48:00 - [321] Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: Del369 in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA You mean IACVAXE? There are others assisting IAC in this... You take what is offered. And that must sometimes be enough.
DANGEROUS Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:49:00 - [322] what a refreshing read. Brilliant post. Sounds like you had all the fun eve can offer and ALL the frustration. Sadly I wasnt online at the time, like alot of old hands my desire to be involved in the cluster**** that is the eve nodes crashing ruining GOOD plans is diminshing day after day!! Shame - eve WAS such a GREAT alternative enviornment!!!
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:51:00 - [323] Originally by: GO MaZ Well that, my friends, was the most monumentally awesome time I've had in eve for the last couple of months. Props to MC and FIX and the others for really bringing it It's nice to finally be all shooty shooty with fix again I don't really have the right to speak on this (been offline a bit over a week), but it feels kinda right shooting at each other. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:51:00 - [324] Originally by: Emeline Cabernet Originally by: Hans Roaming I have to laugh at some posts in this thread. It doesn't matter what is written here as at the end of the contract IAC will either own that space and stations or the forces arrayed against them will withdraw after failing their objective. So really it comes down to who has the most determination to see their desired outcome be the one that comes to pass. Personally in my short time in the MC I've never known us not hit a challenge and then adapt and overcome and am dedicated to seeing those stations fall. Finally we have alarm clocks and are not afraid to use them. how does it feel to shot old friends? Fighting with friends is the best fun you can have in game. And yeah I meant different by my post above lol.
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:58:00 - [325] Originally by: Avernus I don't really have the right to speak on this (been offline a bit over a week), but it feels kinda right shooting at each other. Entilzah Valen popped my ranis like half an hour after I joined gang, I bought one in G-7 for half my wallet, wacked some T1 guns and came back out looking for some FIX killmails to pay you back . Felt a bit wierd being the only AXE member in the IAC gang after like 5am though Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:05:00 - [326] Originally by: Ifni Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: Del369 in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA You mean IACVAXE? There are others assisting IAC in this... I think if you tallied up all the acronyms involved on both sides, the result would look like the back of a shampoo bottle tbh... LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:07:00 - [327] Originally by: Latex Mistress Originally by: Ifni Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: Del369 in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA You mean IACVAXE? There are others assisting IAC in this... I think if you tallied up all the acronyms involved on both sides, the result would look like the back of a shampoo bottle tbh... mmmm shampoo bottle... sounds sexy Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:15:00 - [328] Originally by: Ifni Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: Del369 in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA You mean IACVAXE? There are others assisting IAC in this... Was very surprised and pleased to see D.N.A. on our team. Much respect. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Ifni Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:47:00 - [329] Originally by: Kaylana Syi [Was very surprised and pleased to see D.N.A. on our team. Much respect. If everone wasn't so keen to play at ungodly hours of the night, I would've been around last night You take what is offered. And that must sometimes be enough.
Semkhet The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:57:00 - [330] Originally by: Ifni If everone wasn't so keen to play at ungodly hours of the night, I would've been around last night Same here

DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:08:00 - [331] i work best between the hours of 12 am and 5 am. ad besides MC haven't allowed me to sleep in weeks
Yalson Caldari Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:38:00 - [332] Nice to see the node holding up after the initial crash. It meant having to make another run halfway through half of the Eve universe with a second Tempest, but that was well worth it. Someone stock the local market with a steady supply of new ships, pretty please?
meoff	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:38:00 - [333] OK, so what happened Sunday/Monday Morning?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:42:00 - [334] Originally by: meoff OK, so what happened Sunday/Monday Morning? pew pew, from the looks of things check out the respective killboards :)
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:45:00 - [335] Originally by: Yalson Someone stock the local market with a steady supply of new ships, pretty please? Paging ISS, Aisle F4 Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:53:00 - [336] Originally by: Yalson Nice to see the node holding up after the initial crash. Yes that node crash was a pity. IAC and co ran off to deal with MC jump in leaving CVA at the gate waiting for FIX - would have been a fun fight I think ------------------------------
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:09:00 - [337] totals: IAC 6 Bs lost AXE 5 BS lost MC: 24 BS lost KIA: 6 BS lost FIX: 11 BS lost Seleene pulled the MC forces out of F4 after 5 hours of fighting, All IAC pos's have been re-strontited and we are ready and waiting for the next assualt on our space. as to the node, after the first crash it was stable for the rest of the morning. :)
maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:29:00 - [338] Originally by: DHB FooFighter totals: IAC 6 Bs lost AXE 5 BS lost MC: 24 BS lost KIA: 6 BS lost FIX: 11 BS lost Seleene pulled the MC forces out of F4 after 5 hours of fighting, All IAC pos's have been re-strontited and we are ready and waiting for the next assualt on our space. as to the node, after the first crash it was stable for the rest of the morning. :) And I missed it all Seleene I demand your next attack when I am on! ____________ The Priory Killboard
Noveron Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:57:00 - [339] Very nice read Seleene. Keep them coming.
Razer Morphis Minmatar Twizted Ore	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:57:00 - [340] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Hani EQ Nice summary Seleene, thanx. They say a picture says a thousand words, so we hope this movie says more. Seleene, any chance of getting this vid linked into your main post?: McFix G-7 Battle Vid With Compliments, Fix. DONE! Bandwidth Limit Exceeded The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later. Apache/1.3.37 Server at www.clashworks.com Port 80

Purvy Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:00:00 - [341] Originally by: Ifni Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: Del369 in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA You mean IACVAXE? There are others assisting IAC in this... yeah in my 2 or 3 days in IAC so far i have had fights with atleast a half dozen different alliances and been in gangs with folks i never would have imagined. A big thankyou to all those involved.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:06:00 - [342] Hey, all. Like many of you, I am still recovering from a lack of sleep and too much adrenaline in one night. Rest assured I'll do a write up of the past few days later tonight or early tommorow and try to lay everything out as clearly as possible. In short though, we got a bit over confident and went in with too few people to do the job tonight. The numbers in local at that time of night on a work day tell me that I'm probably not the only one who called in sick today. It's been a hell of a ride so far. Everyone get some sleep and we'll see what happens next. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:21:00 - [343] Originally by: Semkhet Edited by: Semkhet on 15/10/2006 13:04:13 On another hand, I've noticed with satisfaction that The Priory has a positive killratio on MC's killboard. Unfortunately we still are the only ones in this position within the Alliance and it would be cool if other IAC's corps realize that they could counter the attrition they face by using discipline, common sense, intel and good comms. Actually you will find that Meow Co. has suffered 0 losses and so far 4 kills though i believe there may have been others :-)
Larsson7 Minmatar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:23:00 - [344] Have been fun fights so far. Really enjoyed last nights engagement even though my geddon got BBQed Lets hope for much more pew pew pew real soon
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:24:00 - [345] V Nice last night. Cya again laters ;) xx KIA EVE Home
Draka Minmatar Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:30:00 - [346] Nice fight last night to all who participated. Many thanks to those that helped us and S! to our enemies. Now go home and let us mine in peace.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:47:00 - [347] Originally by: Seleene The numbers in local at that time of night on a work day tell me that I'm probably not the only one who called in sick today. You wimp! I phoned work to tell them about my serious hangover, got a couple of hours sleep and went in at 11 (rather than 9) Damn slackers ------------------------------
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:59:00 - [348] Originally by: Seleene Hey, all. Like many of you, I am still recovering from a lack of sleep and too much adrenaline in one night. Rest assured I'll do a write up of the past few days later tonight or early tommorow and try to lay everything out as clearly as possible. In short though, we got a bit over confident and went in with too few people to do the job tonight. The numbers in local at that time of night on a work day tell me that I'm probably not the only one who called in sick today. It's been a hell of a ride so far. Everyone get some sleep and we'll see what happens next. I took a hint and went to bed when I couldn't read simple text anymore. Awesome fight. I didn't get to watch much of it (DEAD), but it was fun to finally get the confrontation the damnable nodes have been keeping from us. Much restekpah, MC. ---- All you do is bark, you never meow.
Semkhet The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:05:00 - [349] Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Originally by: Semkhet Edited by: Semkhet on 15/10/2006 13:04:13 On another hand, I've noticed with satisfaction that The Priory has a positive killratio on MC's killboard. Unfortunately we still are the only ones in this position within the Alliance and it would be cool if other IAC's corps realize that they could counter the attrition they face by using discipline, common sense, intel and good comms. Actually you will find that Meow Co. has suffered 0 losses and so far 4 kills though i believe there may have been others :-) Glad to know. After your post, I have rechecked the data by using different functions and effectively noticed a few inconstencies on MC's killboard. For ex. your corp shows up here with your corresponding 4 kills http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=alliance&a=Interstellar%20Alcohol%20Conglomerate but not here under the paragraph "Prohibition" (where my post you refer to was based) nor in the related detail section: http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=contracts http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=contracts_details&id=81
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:07:00 - [350] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Seleene The numbers in local at that time of night on a work day tell me that I'm probably not the only one who called in sick today. You wimp! I phoned work to tell them about my serious hangover, got a couple of hours sleep and went in at 11 (rather than 9) Damn slackers mumbles something about being a lazy Minmatar ISK **** and goes back to sleep...* - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?

Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:12:00 - [351] Originally by: Semkhet Edited by: Semkhet on 16/10/2006 13:08:31 Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Originally by: Semkhet Edited by: Semkhet on 15/10/2006 13:04:13 On another hand, I've noticed with satisfaction that The Priory has a positive killratio on MC's killboard. Unfortunately we still are the only ones in this position within the Alliance and it would be cool if other IAC's corps realize that they could counter the attrition they face by using discipline, common sense, intel and good comms. Actually you will find that Meow Co. has suffered 0 losses and so far 4 kills though i believe there may have been others :-) Glad to know. After your post, I have rechecked the data by using different functions and effectively noticed a few inconstencies on MC's killboard. For ex. your corp shows up here with your corresponding 4 kills http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=alliance&a=Interstellar%20Alcohol%20Conglomerate but not here under the paragraph "Prohibition" (where my post you refer to was based) nor in the related detail section: http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=contracts http://coalition.killboard.net/?p=contracts_details&id=81 Yup well spotted thanks, the corps for a contract are added manually I believe so I guess they got missed.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:16:00 - [352] The KB needs updating I think it lists alot of corps there that arent even in IAC anymore. Any how lets not start with the John Mcgreedy law of K/D ratios now , coz techincally you have a lost more to Conin than you have killed.
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:17:00 - [353] Originally by: Seleene Hey, all. It's been a hell of a ride so far. Everyone get some sleep and we'll see what happens next. Relay that order, all IAC pilots take your caffeine tablets now! INCOMING MC!! ITS A TRAP!!!!!
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:33:00 - [354] Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Relay that order, all IAC pilots take your caffeine tablets now! INCOMING MC!! I think you meant "Belay" LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:34:00 - [355] i've had so much caffine this week that i've become desensitized. /me loves warping to a gate and giving the order: "all pilots load short range ammo"
babo Gallente Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:38:00 - [356] You guys fought good.. that is the most fun I have had in a very long time.. only one node crash last night out of about six fleet engagements, so I am very glad to see improvement there..
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:50:00 - [357] Originally by: babo You guys fought good.. that is the most fun I have had in a very long time.. only one node crash last night out of about six fleet engagements, so I am very glad to see improvement there.. Technically we fought "well" I'm **ed because I jumped in, then my client just froze. I could hear people fighting on TS, other members of the reinforcements getting away, but nothing on my screen. "" I thought "I'm probably dead." Sure enough, people said I had left local, and after manually quitting eve and relogging, there i was at my clone **es me off, but hopefully I get reimbursed and we can get some fights that aren't way at night, on a weeknight! _______________________________________________
Frools No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:56:00 - [358] great evening/night/early morning special thanks goes to the iac pilot running gang mods making my crusader go extra fast <3 definately feels odd to see priory with IAC tag but definately feels right to see FIX and Max Teranous red again
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:56:00 - [359] Originally by: Cabadrin Originally by: babo You guys fought good.. that is the most fun I have had in a very long time.. only one node crash last night out of about six fleet engagements, so I am very glad to see improvement there.. Technically we fought "well" I'm **ed because I jumped in, then my client just froze. I could hear people fighting on TS, other members of the reinforcements getting away, but nothing on my screen. "" I thought "I'm probably dead." Sure enough, people said I had left local, and after manually quitting eve and relogging, there i was at my clone *es me off, but hopefully I get reimbursed and we can get some fights that aren't way at night, on a weeknight! Lag sucks. I didn't get to see my arma pop either, just saw it hit 90% armor, then everything went very... still. A minute later my pod suddenly hit the warp tunnel. At least it let us play without a node crash, even though the lag created some anomalies. ---- All you do is bark, you never meow.*
Galimiy Portret Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 14:02:00 - [360] Weeee! I even got to see some hostiles. Scratch that, I even locked some of them!

Julien Derida Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 14:49:00 - [361] Good fighting last night chaps! With us outnumbered by between 2:1 and 3:1 for most of the night and the masses of support ships you had, losses on our side were inevitable. I guess we could have sat at SSs and not engaged, but that's not our style! Here's to more action over the coming days. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 15:31:00 - [362] no offense, by we fought 50 v 35-40 most of the night and you had us outnumbered on BS. especially when that fix gang jumped in from F4 after AXE left. AXE was only there for 1 of 4 pos's. It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :). anyways, was good fun and lag was minimal, except everytime i locked up for half a second i thought i was dead :P
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 15:42:00 - [363] Quote: It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :). Not quite true theres the odd CVA/DNA/GHSC and at least one AXE on the kill mails.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.16 15:45:00 - [364] Originally by: DHB FooFighter no offense, by we fought 50 v 35-40 most of the night and you had us outnumbered on BS. especially when that fix gang jumped in from F4 after AXE left. AXE was only there for 1 of 4 pos's. It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :). anyways, was good fun and lag was minimal, except everytime i locked up for half a second i thought i was dead :P I am reliably informed from the few guys from KIA that were still up at that time, that they were outnumbered for the ENTIRE night, most of the time 2 or 3 to 1, and at minimum 1.5 - 1 Lets NOT start a war of words here, everyone is fighting, my guys are enjoying the conflict very much, but dressing up your sides effectiveness (which is getting better) with claims of very little or no help, is simply tosh. IAC have freinds, probably cos your a nice bunch of guys, its tough fighting, but we have goals to achieve and this campaign is far from over. We shall see you on the dance floor Sir/s. KIA EVE Home
Der Pfaffe KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.16 15:52:00 - [365] We'll be back Great fun so far.
Pakmule Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:05:00 - [366] I suggest you bring more people next time. We will.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:05:00 - [367] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Quote: It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :). Not quite true theres the odd CVA/DNA/GHSC and at least one AXE on the kill mails. 1 of each :D
Statix Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:18:00 - [368] Were defending our home space...who gives a sh*te if ur outnumbered tbh.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:19:00 - [369] Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/10/2006 16:27:29 Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/10/2006 16:20:36 Originally by: DHB FooFighter no offense, by we fought 50 v 35-40 most of the night and you had us outnumbered on BS. especially when that fix gang jumped in from F4 after AXE left. AXE was only there for 1 of 4 pos's. It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :). anyways, was good fun and lag was minimal, except everytime i locked up for half a second i thought i was dead :P Sorry man, but that's the biggest load of spin crap bullocks I've read so far from you. Sadly though, because most of your post have been pretty reasonable, although colored. :) While you might have been outnumbered in BS in a couple of engagements, the fighter swarm more than made up for the lack of firepower. That including things like the awesome traffic control when you only try to jump in 20 people made this easier than it should be on the defending party. Props for locking down the system quite effectively and good scout work. You used that and the sheer amount of numbers to defend the system. The numbers pretty much guaranteed a node crash at the start of the night (and lo and behold, it crashed!) if we would all end up on one grid and after that it was pretty much impossible to get any forces into the system without them being in a jump queue for over 5 minutes. :) It's good to know who to target in an AXE gang to get them "bored" though <3 kezz / deathgrip :-p I'd say props to IAC for knowing how to play the game and use every game mechanic to their advantage. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
James Don Gallente KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:30:00 - [370] Edited by: James Don on 16/10/2006 16:33:40 Just wanted to add my thanks to the list to everyone that made this a most enjoyable engagment, common sense and decency prevailed, I just hope it does on the forums too. For those that were there. T1 T2 T3 T4 See you again soon ;) -------------------------------------------- notify : Your cloaking systems are unable to activate due to your ship being within 2000 meters of the nearby Snowballs.

DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:39:00 - [371] all i can say is what i saw. We had you outnumbered in the begining yes, but the 2 main engagements on the Va6 gate and the XI pos were fought with equal numbers, we also had the tactical advantage of warping in at close range with close range ammo fitted. (pos had no guns btw, space clutter 4tw). as to AXE, they know we got nothin but love for them :) and GoMaz is crazy <3 fighter swarm only showed up when the aussies logged (you nearly got on of them as well if i remember). BUT, i think we can all agree that the F'd up grids made both of our jobs much much much more aggrivating. i was 100 off the damn gate calling targets and all of a sudden everyones gone :(. we shall see how the next few weeks pan out but my theory of throwing enough body's in front of the frieght train to stop it seems to be working :)
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:41:00 - [372] Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/10/2006 16:42:13 Originally by: DHB FooFighter BUT, i think we can all agree that the F'd up grids made both of our jobs much much much more aggrivating. i was 100 off the damn gate calling targets and all of a sudden everyones gone :(. Oh yes... MB and 6-M gates in G-7, VA6 gate in F4R, above the station in G7.. sigh :) Maybe it's CCP's way to force us to fight at closer ranges. "Hey, let's just nerf the grid to 100km..." - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:43:00 - [373] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/10/2006 16:42:13 Originally by: DHB FooFighter BUT, i think we can all agree that the F'd up grids made both of our jobs much much much more aggrivating. i was 100 off the damn gate calling targets and all of a sudden everyones gone :(. Oh yes... MB and 6-M gates in G-7, VA6 gate in F4R, above the station in G7.. sigh :) Maybe it's CCP's way to force us to fight at closer ranges. "Hey, let's just nerf the grid to 100km..." meh, i like getting up close a personal. makes it a good old fashion clusterF*** and its much more exciting :D
maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:45:00 - [374] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/10/2006 16:32:23 Originally by: DHB FooFighter no offense, by we fought 50 v 35-40 most of the night and you had us outnumbered on BS. especially when that fix gang jumped in from F4 after AXE left. AXE was only there for 1 of 4 pos's. It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :). anyways, was good fun and lag was minimal, except everytime i locked up for half a second i thought i was dead :P Sorry man, but that's the biggest load of spin crap bullocks I've read so far from you. Sadly though, because most of your post have been pretty reasonable, although colored. :) While you might have been outnumbered in BS in a couple of engagements, the fighter swarm more than made up for the lack of firepower. That including things like the awesome traffic control when you only try to jump in 20 people made this easier than it should be on the defending party. Props for locking down the system quite effectively and good scout work. You used that and the sheer amount of numbers to defend the system. The numbers pretty much guaranteed a node crash at the start of the night (and lo and behold, it crashed!) if we would all end up on one grid and after that it was pretty much impossible to get any forces into the system without them being in a jump queue for over 5 minutes. :) It's good to know who to target in an AXE gang to get them "bored" though <3 kezz / deathgrip :-p I'd say props to IAC for knowing how to play the game and use every game mechanic to their advantage. Shouting it was IAC that beats us last night doesn't nearly give enough credit to all your allies that showed up. If I were to jump all the jumps from Impass to hear I didn't make a difference I wouldn't be showing up next time... On a closing note, McFixKIA learnt a lot last night too about what could've been done better if we end up in a similiar situation next time. What used to be valid tactics when servers were stable and could actually handle 200 people in one grid nowadays just ends up letting you shoot yourself in the foot. :) Problem is you guys contionously belittle IAC & co. by saying you were outnumbered, making that the reason you lost not the fact that we were just better on the day. I wasn't there I'll admit, but it grows tiresome to read every single time you lose an engagement it was because you were outnumbered especially since so far (correct me if I'm wrong!) IAC have congratulated you guys on good skills/tactics when you've won battles... ____________ The Priory Killboard
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:48:00 - [375] Originally by: maGz Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/10/2006 16:32:23 Originally by: DHB FooFighter no offense, by we fought 50 v 35-40 most of the night and you had us outnumbered on BS. especially when that fix gang jumped in from F4 after AXE left. AXE was only there for 1 of 4 pos's. It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :). anyways, was good fun and lag was minimal, except everytime i locked up for half a second i thought i was dead :P Sorry man, but that's the biggest load of spin crap bullocks I've read so far from you. Sadly though, because most of your post have been pretty reasonable, although colored. :) While you might have been outnumbered in BS in a couple of engagements, the fighter swarm more than made up for the lack of firepower. That including things like the awesome traffic control when you only try to jump in 20 people made this easier than it should be on the defending party. Props for locking down the system quite effectively and good scout work. You used that and the sheer amount of numbers to defend the system. The numbers pretty much guaranteed a node crash at the start of the night (and lo and behold, it crashed!) if we would all end up on one grid and after that it was pretty much impossible to get any forces into the system without them being in a jump queue for over 5 minutes. :) It's good to know who to target in an AXE gang to get them "bored" though <3 kezz / deathgrip :-p I'd say props to IAC for knowing how to play the game and use every game mechanic to their advantage. Shouting it was IAC that beats us last night doesn't nearly give enough credit to all your allies that showed up. If I were to jump all the jumps from Impass to hear I didn't make a difference I wouldn't be showing up next time... On a closing note, McFixKIA learnt a lot last night too about what could've been done better if we end up in a similiar situation next time. What used to be valid tactics when servers were stable and could actually handle 200 people in one grid nowadays just ends up letting you shoot yourself in the foot. :) Problem is you guys contionously belittle IAC & co. by saying you were outnumbered, making that the reason you lost not the fact that we were just better on the day. I wasn't there I'll admit, but it grows tiresome to read every single time you lose an engagement it was because you were outnumbered especially since so far (correct me if I'm wrong!) IAC have congratulated you guys on good skills/tactics when you've won battles... I vote we all agree to disagree and continue to wage war on Eve and not Eve-o.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:49:00 - [376] Spin aside I had great fun, just a bloody shame I had to get up at 05:30 to do it It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. The Dark Lord consults the Force under his tinfoil helm..
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:49:00 - [377] You win some and you loose some, IAC and friends had a great day and we didn't. Well done guys, you did good.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:05:00 - [378] Originally by: Grimster Spin aside I had great fun, just a bloody shame I had to get up at 05:30 to do it It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. what?!?!?! they allow you to sleep? I was told i couldn't sleep till you were gone or we were all dead :D
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:08:00 - [379] I'm more interested in how the contract is set up....timeline like for a week or until a job is done? This is one of those things that seem to be able to go on forever. After MC and IAC is having all this fun....I start to wonder if MC is here out of pure amusement and fun than contract work....lol. Just a thought. I wasn't around at all, be on tonight while monday night football is on....time I did some learning...
Red Horseman Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:12:00 - [380] GF last night

Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:13:00 - [381] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/10/2006 16:32:23 Sorry man, but that's the biggest load of spin crap bullocks I've read so far from you. Sadly though, because most of your post have been pretty reasonable, although colored. :) While you might have been outnumbered in BS in a couple of engagements, the fighter swarm more than made up for the lack of firepower. That including things like the awesome traffic control when you only try to jump in 20 people made this easier than it should be on the defending party. Props for locking down the system quite effectively and good scout work. You used that and the sheer amount of numbers to defend the system. The numbers pretty much guaranteed a node crash at the start of the night (and lo and behold, it crashed!) if we would all end up on one grid and after that it was pretty much impossible to get any forces into the system without them being in a jump queue for over 5 minutes. :) It's good to know who to target in an AXE gang to get them "bored" though <3 kezz / deathgrip :-p I'd say props to IAC for knowing how to play the game and use every game mechanic to their advantage. Shouting it was IAC that beats us last night doesn't nearly give enough credit to all your allies that showed up. If I were to jump all the jumps from Impass to hear I didn't make a difference I wouldn't be showing up next time... On a closing note, McFixKIA learnt a lot last night too about what could've been done better if we end up in a similiar situation next time. What used to be valid tactics when servers were stable and could actually handle 200 people in one grid nowadays just ends up letting you shoot yourself in the foot. :) Maybe it's not your intention but the tone that i get from the post is that you're accusing IAC of intentionally blobbing up to crash the node. And also when you talk about how we use every game mechanic to our advantage that rather irks me because when people usually make the game mechanic arguement it's through accusations of log on traps and other shifty tactics. So far we have not used any shifty tactics and i would certaintly hope you are not implying that we are. In rust we trust!!!
Pakmule Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:25:00 - [382] Only idiots enter into "fair fights". :)
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:25:00 - [383] Reading back through this thread it looks like both sides have serious memberships to the Alistair Campbell school of spin. At the end of the day it doesn't matter so long as the fights are still on. And as far as the contractor details go, I doubt you'd ever find out details, 99% of the MC never find out either so don't feel bad about it. That said, as far as I am aware MC are still receiving contract queries, and while there's still jobs to be had you can most likely be rest assured that we wouldn't commit so much metal without reimbursement. The Dark Lord consults the Force under his tinfoil helm..
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:27:00 - [384] Originally by: Murukan Maybe it's not your intention but the tone that i get from the post is that you're accusing IAC of intentionally blobbing up to crash the node. And also when you talk about how we use every game mechanic to our advantage that rather irks me because when people usually make the game mechanic arguement it's through accusations of log on traps and other shifty tactics. So far we have not used any shifty tactics and i would certaintly hope you are not implying that we are. Obviously you don't know the Waagaa we all love. To be honest, we noticed that there were fewer defenders than the first time, and were kindof pleasantly surprised. We hoped, in vain that we'd get through crash-free. No such luck, it seems. No need to get defensive. I don't think anyone is accusing IAC of the logonski/logoffski or something of that calibre. To be honest, I'm with Foofighter. Let's keep the war in-game. You, in particular, have smacked these forums up one side and down the other. You are far from the only one, though. TBH, all smacktalking does is make you likely to get primaried . See you in space. XOXO Crovan Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:27:00 - [385] Originally by: Silvestri I'm more interested in how the contract is set up....timeline like for a week or until a job is done? This is one of those things that seem to be able to go on forever. After MC and IAC is having all this fun....I start to wonder if MC is here out of pure amusement and fun than contract work....lol. Just a thought. I wasn't around at all, be on tonight while monday night football is on....time I did some learning... Well its kinda interesting point i dont know the cost of the contract, i dont how it is set up (I'm not privy to that info) and I'll make my point very general of merc work as a whole. Merc work if you devided cash paid per pilot wouldnt be worth undocking for even if it was some stupidly high figure like 20 bil. would only = 100mil per pilot which is peanuts. SO obviously money isn't the only motivator.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:31:00 - [386] Edited by: Murukan on 16/10/2006 17:32:57 Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Murukan Maybe it's not your intention but the tone that i get from the post is that you're accusing IAC of intentionally blobbing up to crash the node. And also when you talk about how we use every game mechanic to our advantage that rather irks me because when people usually make the game mechanic arguement it's through accusations of log on traps and other shifty tactics. So far we have not used any shifty tactics and i would certaintly hope you are not implying that we are. Obviously you don't know the Waagaa we all love. To be honest, we noticed that there were fewer defenders than the first time, and were kindof pleasantly surprised. We hoped, in vain that we'd get through crash-free. No such luck, it seems. No need to get defensive. I don't think anyone is accusing IAC of the logonski/logoffski or something of that calibre. To be honest, I'm with Foofighter. Let's keep the war in-game. You, in particular, have smacked these forums up one side and down the other. You are far from the only one, though. TBH, all smacktalking does is make you likely to get primaried . See you in space. XOXO Crovan I haven't smacked mc, just fix Ok and i know you aren't accusing of log offs and stuff. But you have to admit when people say "you're using all of the game mechanics to your advantage" it's usually not in the form of a compliment In rust we trust!!!
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:35:00 - [387] Looking at the killboards I'd like to politely request that you please stop driving up the already ridiculous prices of 425mm Railgun II's. Thanks x PS - this goes to anyone fighting a large war atm
Der Pfaffe KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:39:00 - [388] Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 16/10/2006 17:32:57 Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Murukan Maybe it's not your intention but the tone that i get from the post is that you're accusing IAC of intentionally blobbing up to crash the node. And also when you talk about how we use every game mechanic to our advantage that rather irks me because when people usually make the game mechanic arguement it's through accusations of log on traps and other shifty tactics. So far we have not used any shifty tactics and i would certaintly hope you are not implying that we are. Obviously you don't know the Waagaa we all love. To be honest, we noticed that there were fewer defenders than the first time, and were kindof pleasantly surprised. We hoped, in vain that we'd get through crash-free. No such luck, it seems. No need to get defensive. I don't think anyone is accusing IAC of the logonski/logoffski or something of that calibre. To be honest, I'm with Foofighter. Let's keep the war in-game. You, in particular, have smacked these forums up one side and down the other. You are far from the only one, though. TBH, all smacktalking does is make you likely to get primaried . See you in space. XOXO Crovan I haven't smacked mc, just fix Ok and i know you aren't accusing of log offs and stuff. But you have to admit when people say "you're using all of the game mechanics to your advantage" it's usually not in the form of a compliment He might be referring to slightly naughty stuff like dumping cans around your Pos's last night and then trying to tell the GM that removed some of them, that they were just "warp in points"...
Caruleum Ursa	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:52:00 - [389] Edited by: Caruleum Ursa on 16/10/2006 17:53:56 This is a post. There are many posts like it. But, this post is mine. ooops. I'm an alt, so i can't post here...
Cpt Buck Amarr International Brotherhood of Eve Workers	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:54:00 - [390] What an excellent account of events, had me immersed. Seems whenever anyone fights these days they can expect multiple crashes and screw ups. CCP have acheived a lot, but they need to achieve more :)

GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:54:00 - [391] Edited by: GO MaZ on 16/10/2006 17:54:33 Originally by: Der Pfaffe He might be referring to slightly naughty stuff like dumping cans around your Pos's last night and then trying to tell the GM that removed some of them, that they were just "warp in points"... They were, just warp-in points. You think if IAC really wanted to cause lag they would've just put a load of modules & guns on the POS right? We were told to make up, down, left and right warp-ins 250km away. Would you rather that people had been copying bookmarks during the fight for this? I'm pretty sure dropping 1 unit of ammo into a can is less taxing than had we made bookmarks and then copied them to the FC... Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Xandria Pearl KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:58:00 - [392] Originally by: Cpt Buck What an excellent account of events, had me immersed. Seems whenever anyone fights these days they can expect multiple crashes and screw ups. CCP have acheived a lot, but they need to achieve more :) More what? Crashes? Props to all involved, looks like you had fun... if only they would fix my main char I would have lost a ship with the rest of us
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:59:00 - [393] Originally by: babo Originally by: DHB FooFighter no offense, by we fought 50 v 35-40 most of the night and you had us outnumbered on BS. especially when that fix gang jumped in from F4 after AXE left. AXE was only there for 1 of 4 pos's. It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :). anyways, was good fun and lag was minimal, except everytime i locked up for half a second i thought i was dead :P we were not bored... we were having fun.. we had the east coast guys starting to log off for the night (weeknight as well) and I am pretty sure it was a choice so we didn't leave people straggling in system.. think that was the best time I have had in a while.. We even had a reporter in there in a polaris doing whatever reporters do.. He was following us around and scaring the bejeezus out of us in our safespots is what he was doing . Whoever owns that ISD char, classy naming him after Ed Murrow, tbh , just watch out for Administrator McCarthy over in Amarr space Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Alfarinn FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 18:13:00 - [394] Originally by: Hardin "When true friends meet in adverse hour; 'Tis like a sunbeam through a shower. A watery way an instant seen, The darkly closing clouds between." - Sir Walter Scott Amen to that
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 18:14:00 - [395] I think we should hold the reporter for ransom...lol. I can see the new spin off of Crovan's post...two or so back....XOXO..."What!! Are you calling IACVAXE ***?? You want to kiss us??!!" lol....we're not that drunk! And I have to admit even the smack talk hasn't been to bad....I've seen much worse. I think in the end this war even may bring MC and IAC a bit closer...hell we chat every day with each other....lol. I also want to throw a huge thanks to all corps and alliances supporting and helping us...it's been huge and we look forward to returning the favor!! On a different note on contracts....if you don't reach the goal...do you have to reimburse the contractor the cost for the mission?? That would seriously suck hog for merc corps throughout Eve...
Wladomir Jed Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 18:38:00 - [396] Originally by: Silvestri ... On a different note on contracts....if you don't reach the goal...do you have to reimburse the contractor the cost for the mission?? That would seriously suck hog for merc corps throughout Eve... never going to happen MC!
Zyllette	Posted - 2006.10.16 18:47:00 - [397] Originally by: Grimster It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. I had a blast for a few hours even if I did get popped. Maybe the guys whining about our warp in cans have grown compacent and lazy because all their contracts up til now have just rolled over and accepted defeat. As far as the cans go, we dropped what, maybe 8 or 10? If all we wanted was to lag and crash the node I could have brought all my accounts online and parked them at the POS out of harms way, or, all 200 of us could have dropped cans. I'm learning quite a bit for my 3rd week out in 0.0 Looking forward to more Proud to be NEST in IAC (P.S. I don't see the option to include info in reply window)
Zylla	Posted - 2006.10.16 18:48:00 - [398] Originally by: Grimster It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. I had a blast for a few hours even if I did get popped. Maybe the guys whining about our warp in cans have grown compacent and lazy because all their contracts up til now have just rolled over and accepted defeat. As far as the cans go, we dropped what, maybe 8 or 10? If all we wanted was to lag and crash the node I could have brought all my accounts online and parked them at the POS out of harms way, or, all 200 of us could have dropped cans. I'm learning quite a bit for my 3rd week out in 0.0 Looking forward to more Proud to be NEST in IAC (P.S. I don't see the option to include info in reply window)
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 18:54:00 - [399] Originally by: Murukan Maybe it's not your intention but the tone that i get from the post is that you're accusing IAC of intentionally blobbing up to crash the node. And also when you talk about how we use every game mechanic to our advantage that rather irks me because when people usually make the game mechanic arguement it's through accusations of log on traps and other shifty tactics. So far we have not used any shifty tactics and i would certaintly hope you are not implying that we are. Nope :) I normally tend to speak my mind and not go into vague formulations when I accuse people of using borderline tactics. I gave IAC props for using the game mechanics at their disposal to defend themselves. I might not be to happy about the current mechanics in play, but this is how CCP wants us to play it at the moment. :) No hidden accusations of exploits or anything in there. It's actually been quite refreshing to see how IAC in general just plays the game instead of using all kinds of other things to get an advantage. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 18:56:00 - [400] Originally by: Zylla Originally by: Grimster It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. I had a blast for a few hours even if I did get popped. Maybe the guys whining about our warp in cans have grown compacent and lazy because all their contracts up til now have just rolled over and accepted defeat. As far as the cans go, we dropped what, maybe 8 or 10? If all we wanted was to lag and crash the node I could have brought all my accounts online and parked them at the POS out of harms way, or, all 200 of us could have dropped cans. I'm learning quite a bit for my 3rd week out in 0.0 Looking forward to more Proud to be NEST in IAC (P.S. I don't see the option to include info in reply window) About the can thing.. MC got petitioned for leaving npc cans (which we popped cos they spawned on us) and made to pick them up so i think you having issue with us petitioning your cans at a pos droped by you a little out of place. Alot of people drop cans at their pos to uncloak covert ops, create lag etc so petitioning them is pretty standard practise for alot of people.

Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:02:00 - [401] There wasn't a 3:1 ratio for the majority of POS 2 and 3 coming out of reinforced mode. We had 110ish in local for most of those fights and 10 or 20 that were tending to logistics any given time with some people in the station. I know... I had 2 accounts running logistics and 1 sending fighters. MC spiders... spinning a tale of agony. The initial battle was well in our favor thanks to AXIOM, CVA, GHSC, Celes APOC and the other allies that have been awesome throughout the night. However, it was an equal/near-equal IAC led defense for a good amount of fights after our allies had to log that lead to a good deal more MC&co. losses. Foo did an excellent jeeerb and had some great backup FCing by Orochimaru when grid bugs got in Foo's way. MC&co. got straight handed last night all around. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:05:00 - [402] Originally by: Eleese Originally by: Zylla Originally by: Grimster It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. I had a blast for a few hours even if I did get popped. Maybe the guys whining about our warp in cans have grown compacent and lazy because all their contracts up til now have just rolled over and accepted defeat. As far as the cans go, we dropped what, maybe 8 or 10? If all we wanted was to lag and crash the node I could have brought all my accounts online and parked them at the POS out of harms way, or, all 200 of us could have dropped cans. I'm learning quite a bit for my 3rd week out in 0.0 Looking forward to more Proud to be NEST in IAC (P.S. I don't see the option to include info in reply window) About the can thing.. MC got petitioned for leaving npc cans (which we popped cos they spawned on us) and made to pick them up so i think you having issue with us petitioning your cans at a pos droped by you a little out of place. Alot of people drop cans at their pos to uncloak covert ops, create lag etc so petitioning them is pretty standard practise for alot of people. rubbish. I blame fix for petitions but if it was MC... then you guys are just rubbish. You know what our cans were for and if you really expect us not to drop several cans at distance to warp to your t2 fitted BSs then you are delusional. If I see one more petition from your side about cans I am going to petition MC&co. for dropping so many cans after dying to cause lag. Because last night... you were the ones dropping cans from your ships. BTW thanks for the t2 tachs and t2 1400 IIs I will be using from your ships this week. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:07:00 - [403] Originally by: Kaylana Syi If I see one more petition from your side about cans I am going to petition MC&co. for dropping so many cans after dying to cause lag. Because last night... you were the ones dropping cans from your ships. BTW thanks for the t2 tachs and t2 1400 IIs I will be using from your ships this week. You're getting tiresome, just say props and have done ffs. The Dark Lord consults the Force under his tinfoil helm..
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:09:00 - [404] Frivolous petitions should be grounds for warnings. You're basically just lying to the GMs saying we drop them to create lag, maybe if you found one filled with BMs you'd have a leg to stand on, or should I petition you for dropping cans when you die to lag us ? http://eve.klaki.net/
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:09:00 - [405] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Eleese Originally by: Zylla Originally by: Grimster It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. I had a blast for a few hours even if I did get popped. Maybe the guys whining about our warp in cans have grown compacent and lazy because all their contracts up til now have just rolled over and accepted defeat. As far as the cans go, we dropped what, maybe 8 or 10? If all we wanted was to lag and crash the node I could have brought all my accounts online and parked them at the POS out of harms way, or, all 200 of us could have dropped cans. I'm learning quite a bit for my 3rd week out in 0.0 Looking forward to more Proud to be NEST in IAC (P.S. I don't see the option to include info in reply window) About the can thing.. MC got petitioned for leaving npc cans (which we popped cos they spawned on us) and made to pick them up so i think you having issue with us petitioning your cans at a pos droped by you a little out of place. Alot of people drop cans at their pos to uncloak covert ops, create lag etc so petitioning them is pretty standard practise for alot of people. rubbish. I blame fix for petitions but if it was MC... then you guys are just rubbish. You know what our cans were for and if you really expect us not to drop several cans at distance to warp to your t2 fitted BSs then you are delusional. If I see one more petition from your side about cans I am going to petition MC&co. for dropping so many cans after dying to cause lag. Because last night... you were the ones dropping cans from your ships. BTW thanks for the t2 tachs and t2 1400 IIs I will be using from your ships this week. I dont know who it was i wasnt there merely pointing out petition can by a pos is not uncommon.
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:17:00 - [406] Originally by: Eleese Originally by: Zylla Originally by: Grimster It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. I had a blast for a few hours even if I did get popped. Maybe the guys whining about our warp in cans have grown compacent and lazy because all their contracts up til now have just rolled over and accepted defeat. As far as the cans go, we dropped what, maybe 8 or 10? If all we wanted was to lag and crash the node I could have brought all my accounts online and parked them at the POS out of harms way, or, all 200 of us could have dropped cans. I'm learning quite a bit for my 3rd week out in 0.0 Looking forward to more Proud to be NEST in IAC (P.S. I don't see the option to include info in reply window) About the can thing.. MC got petitioned for leaving npc cans (which we popped cos they spawned on us) and made to pick them up so i think you having issue with us petitioning your cans at a pos droped by you a little out of place. Alot of people drop cans at their pos to uncloak covert ops, create lag etc so petitioning them is pretty standard practise for alot of people. I was in F4 and active for the first Node crash. I was at the First pos when it came out of reinforced mode and for the multiple McFix attacks at that pos. You saying we are dropping cans to create lag and decloak the Cov ops is simply untrue. Those cans were placed as warp points for our T1 fleets to engage your T2 fitted snipers at a range we could swing. If you think otherwise im sorry. Now leaving cans in belts.. Those are not necesary cans and should be popped. No big deal. As for trying to create lag. One Node crash and that was only because of the initial engagement at like 2 gates when the fleets jumped into F4. We recalled fighters and used them sparingly from between the first engagement up until i logged about an hour after the first POS came out of reinforced. On a side note. Hats off to MC. Big salute to you. We both took some hard hits, and as i recall we almost lost a carrier at the first pos. I was in an osprey yelling at our gang to get inside the shield. Heh MC took some hard hits but kept it up. Was great fun and some of the best ive seen thus far in EVE. Please dont take my comments as smack. Again big O/ to MC great job and good attitude. I look forward to seeing you in space.. hopefully not in my pod after being uh blown up! :) Thundirr out.
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:20:00 - [407] Edited by: Eleese on 16/10/2006 19:21:29 Originally by: Thundirr Originally by: Eleese Originally by: Zylla Originally by: Grimster It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. I had a blast for a few hours even if I did get popped. Maybe the guys whining about our warp in cans have grown compacent and lazy because all their contracts up til now have just rolled over and accepted defeat. As far as the cans go, we dropped what, maybe 8 or 10? If all we wanted was to lag and crash the node I could have brought all my accounts online and parked them at the POS out of harms way, or, all 200 of us could have dropped cans. I'm learning quite a bit for my 3rd week out in 0.0 Looking forward to more Proud to be NEST in IAC (P.S. I don't see the option to include info in reply window) About the can thing.. MC got petitioned for leaving npc cans (which we popped cos they spawned on us) and made to pick them up so i think you having issue with us petitioning your cans at a pos droped by you a little out of place. Alot of people drop cans at their pos to uncloak covert ops, create lag etc so petitioning them is pretty standard practise for alot of people. I was in F4 and active for the first Node crash. I was at the First pos when it came out of reinforced mode and for the multiple McFix attacks at that pos. You saying we are dropping cans to create lag and decloak the Cov ops is simply untrue. Those cans were placed as warp points for our T1 fleets to engage your T2 fitted snipers at a range we could swing. If you think otherwise im sorry. Now leaving cans in belts.. Those are not necesary cans and should be popped. No big deal. As for trying to create lag. One Node crash and that was only because of the initial engagement at like 2 gates when the fleets jumped into F4. We recalled fighters and used them sparingly from between the first engagement up until i logged about an hour after the first POS came out of reinforced. On a side note. Hats off to MC. Big salute to you. We both took some hard hits, and as i recall we almost lost a carrier at the first pos. I was in an osprey yelling at our gang to get inside the shield. Heh MC took some hard hits but kept it up. Was great fun and some of the best ive seen thus far in EVE. Please dont take my comments as smack. Again big O/ to MC great job and good attitude. I look forward to seeing you in space.. hopefully not in my pod after being uh blown up! :) Thundirr out. No ,all i was pointing out is cans get petitioned alot more than they should ingame... as indicated by the batty petitioning of us for npc cans we shot (not this contract btw) and cans at pos's are often petitioned as stardard (no i dont mean me or the mc) as i dont know who petitioned who. edited my **** typing skills
Pakmule Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:24:00 - [408] Originally by: Der Pfaffe Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 16/10/2006 17:32:57 Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Murukan Maybe it's not your intention but the tone that i get from the post is that you're accusing IAC of intentionally blobbing up to crash the node. And also when you talk about how we use every game mechanic to our advantage that rather irks me because when people usually make the game mechanic arguement it's through accusations of log on traps and other shifty tactics. So far we have not used any shifty tactics and i would certaintly hope you are not implying that we are. Obviously you don't know the Waagaa we all love. To be honest, we noticed that there were fewer defenders than the first time, and were kindof pleasantly surprised. We hoped, in vain that we'd get through crash-free. No such luck, it seems. No need to get defensive. I don't think anyone is accusing IAC of the logonski/logoffski or something of that calibre. To be honest, I'm with Foofighter. Let's keep the war in-game. You, in particular, have smacked these forums up one side and down the other. You are far from the only one, though. TBH, all smacktalking does is make you likely to get primaried . See you in space. XOXO Crovan I haven't smacked mc, just fix Ok and i know you aren't accusing of log offs and stuff. But you have to admit when people say "you're using all of the game mechanics to your advantage" it's usually not in the form of a compliment He might be referring to slightly naughty stuff like dumping cans around your Pos's last night and then trying to tell the GM that removed some of them, that they were just "warp in points"... Lame. We dropped four cans around the POS. One each at 250km N, S, E and W of the POS. The distance that you kept warping in at. What do you think they were for? We had over a hundred people in system. All we had to do was launch drones and we would have lagged you to death or crashed the system.
Rhayvn Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:26:00 - [409] Last night was a lot of fun. The first node crash was a shame, but predictable. What was great was that it held together after that and many good clashes were possible. It was nice to be able to give some payback to IAC for all their support during our Huzzah days. Some things that made me grin: "Good job guys. Carrier is safe. 80% Structure!" "Seleene is Primary." "She isn't here." "She's still primary." "Kezz, you are too far from the gate. Kezz? Is Kezz afk?" (Kezz)"Hi guys, I was afk... Well, that's the first BS I have lost in a while." Great fights to everyone involved. Clean, smack free and all around fun. __________________________________________ I see dead people. They tell me to do bad things.
Drazhar Kain Alpha Production Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:29:00 - [410] Most fun I've had in Eve in a good long while. Good fights FIX and MC.

Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:30:00 - [411] Originally by: Eleese I dont know who it was i wasnt there merely pointing out petition can by a pos is not uncommon. It should be - especially in MC's case. Honestly, if the can whine continues, I think it's really gonna start making McFixKIA look bad. IAC is not spamming cans... very few were dropped. To say we are to cause lag is just sad, really. To continue on about it is just reaching for excuses for your losses. Back to the business at hand. Last night was about the most fun I've had in this game in a long time (and I think some of you will definitely recognize me now ) Props to the McFixKIA pilots who fought valiantly despite the odds. Let's keep up the good fight and not turn this into a ****ing contest.
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:38:00 - [412] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Eleese I dont know who it was i wasnt there merely pointing out petition can by a pos is not uncommon. It should be - especially in MC's case. Honestly, if the can whine continues, I think it's really gonna start making McFixKIA look bad. IAC is not spamming cans... very few were dropped. To say we are to cause lag is just sad, really. To continue on about it is just reaching for excuses for your losses. Back to the business at hand. Last night was about the most fun I've had in this game in a long time (and I think some of you will definitely recognize me now ) Props to the McFixKIA pilots who fought valiantly despite the odds. Let's keep up the good fight and not turn this into a ****ing contest. Re read what i typed and then feel free to edit your post, as i never once accused iac of causing lag, i never said mc petitioned you for this i merely took IAC word that someone petitioned them (and assumed it wasnt there own side). And pointed out petitioning of cans especially around pos's happens alot... as some people (not you) quite often use cans to gain an unfair advantage whether via lag or stop covert ops warping in. And read the mc replies in this thread... all they have said is good fight etc to losing more bs to you guys... no one complained or tried to make excuses for it.
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:00:00 - [413] Originally by: Eleese Re read what i typed and then feel free to edit your post, as i never once accused iac of causing lag, i never said mc petitioned you for this You mean this? Originally by: Eleese About the can thing.. MC got petitioned for leaving npc cans (which we popped cos they spawned on us) and made to pick them up so i think you having issue with us petitioning your cans at a pos droped by you a little out of place. Originally by: Eleese i merely took IAC word that someone petitioned them (and assumed it wasnt there own side). And pointed out petitioning of cans especially around pos's happens alot... as some people (not you) quite often use cans to gain an unfair advantage whether via lag or stop covert ops warping in. And read the mc replies in this thread... all they have said is good fight etc to losing more bs to you guys... no one complained or tried to make excuses for it. Funny... I see a lot of talk about cans mixed in with the "good fight", etc. Even now, the spin is on with the can subject. I'm not going to get into this nonsense any more than I already have. You guys wanna continue to spin what is turning out to be a good battle for both sides, fine - cause you're obviously getting good at it. As for me, I'm gonna let my launchers do the talking (again).
Crovan Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:09:00 - [414] Now I remember why I sometimes hate EVE-O. Look, it was a good fight. The first mention of cans got brought up by some random alt (presumably, given the ! picture and lack of corp/alliance tags). It was a good fight. We made a couple of mistakes, and got really unlucky a couple of times with timing as well as grid shenanigans. Just leave it at that. You guys capitalized where you needed to and used effective counter-tactics to our tactics that had previously proven very effective. Good show. This thread started as what has generally been received as a very nice write-up of some very intense fighting. This whinging about who petitioned whom for what, or who outnumbered whom by how many is really not necessary, constructive, or enjoyable for any one (at least I hope nobody enjoys that sort of banter). When the cans were seen, I specifically remembered telling people that, while there was not a hard limit for where the GMs would step in, my understanding was that it had to be excessive, so not even to worry about it. You won a fleet engagement. Congrats. We'll be back. We'll see if you can repeat the performance. See you in space, and good luck. Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:26:00 - [415] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Eleese Re read what i typed and then feel free to edit your post, as i never once accused iac of causing lag, i never said mc petitioned you for this You mean this? Originally by: Eleese About the can thing.. MC got petitioned for leaving npc cans (which we popped cos they spawned on us) and made to pick them up so i think you having issue with us petitioning your cans at a pos droped by you a little out of place. Originally by: Eleese i merely took IAC word that someone petitioned them (and assumed it wasnt there own side). And pointed out petitioning of cans especially around pos's happens alot... as some people (not you) quite often use cans to gain an unfair advantage whether via lag or stop covert ops warping in. And read the mc replies in this thread... all they have said is good fight etc to losing more bs to you guys... no one complained or tried to make excuses for it. Funny... I see a lot of talk about cans mixed in with the "good fight", etc. Even now, the spin is on with the can subject. I'm not going to get into this nonsense any more than I already have. You guys wanna continue to spin what is turning out to be a good battle for both sides, fine - cause you're obviously getting good at it. As for me, I'm gonna let my launchers do the talking (again). Nope you still dont understand it seems. Look a gm turned up to remove the cans says the kia guy and the AXE guy responds saying they were warp in points. I then responded with Quote: About the can thing.. MC got petitioned for leaving npc cans (which we popped cos they spawned on us) and made to pick them up so i think you having issue with us petitioning your cans at a pos droped by you a little out of place. Alot of people drop cans at their pos to uncloak covert ops, create lag etc so petitioning them is pretty standard practise for alot of people. By US i meant our side not MC as it would be silly for IAC to petition themselves i have assumed it must of been one of the mcfixkia guys. I then pointed out alot of people automatically almost like autopilot petition cans at pos's. (no i dont mean i do or any of the mcfixkia in particular it was a general statement). I added the fact we got petitioned for leaving npc cans at a gate (like 3 of them) cos i found it funny it was joking. And now you state Quote: Honestly, if the can whine continues, I think it's really gonna start making McFixKIA look bad. IAC is not spamming cans... very few were dropped. To say we are to cause lag is just sad, really. To continue on about it is just reaching for excuses for your losses. As for the whine about cans i havent moaned about you dropping cans i have merely pointed out that cans being petitions happens far to often and you might as well just take the petition on the chin because i am sure someone will petition you again for it in future in your next big conflict when mcfixkia leave. Anyway I'm done as you guys twisting what i say is getting old.
Karth	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:28:00 - [416] Edited by: Karth on 16/10/2006 20:30:25
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:32:00 - [417] Originally by: Eleese Anyway I'm done Thank God... I thought that would never end. Less talking, more shooting.
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:32:00 - [418] Day - 1 Beer, check! Candy and other snacks, check! Ok! I am docked and ready to fight! Yeah. What's this? Wait for the PoSs to come out of reinforced, hrm. <drinks a beer> Day - 3 Lets rock on baby! Ammo, check! 3 x more isk in fitting then cost of ship, check! Beer, oh ffs out! Too late, can't get beer now. Must fight for the great cause! I still have some cokes left, hell yeah! Bring it baby! Charge!! Day - 12 Running low on ammo and the one snickers bar left can only go so far. Coke is also low on supply and the dog has been running circles around my chair for the past 2 days. Must not leave the chair though, must endure! Day - 30 The dog chewed it's way through the front door and has yet to come back. The snickers bar is gone. I am subjected to licking the dried coke from the cans... Vision is getting blurry at times... There are 100 mc/fix/kia! Oh wait, that was just my blurry vision, there is only 50. Day - 50 Colors are mixing together, blue - red, it's all the same. We are making ships out of tech 1 cardboard. I hear pew, pew sounds when I drift off at times, or is that mining lasers? What do mining lasers sound like? "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:35:00 - [419] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Eleese Anyway I'm done Thank God... I thought that would never end. Less talking, more shooting. Remember what happened last time you said that
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:38:00 - [420] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Eleese Anyway I'm done Thank God... I thought that would never end. Less talking, more shooting. Remember what happened last time you said that Might wanna check your killboards since then

Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:40:00 - [421] I would be surprised if it were mc that petitioned the cans. They have a firm grasp on battle tactics and i'm sure that they would of recognized that the cans are clearly for warp in points (because who just wants to sit and get sniped to death). TBH it was probably FiX that petitioned you guys cause from watching their posts regarding AAA anytime they lose it seems to be from haxploits. In rust we trust!!!
Pakmule Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:42:00 - [422] Originally by: Tribunal Day - 1 Beer, check! Candy and other snacks, check! Ok! I am docked and ready to fight! Yeah. What's this? Wait for the PoSs to come out of reinforced, hrm. <drinks a beer> Day - 3 Lets rock on baby! Ammo, check! 3 x more isk in fitting then cost of ship, check! Beer, oh ffs out! Too late, can't get beer now. Must fight for the great cause! I still have some cokes left, hell yeah! Bring it baby! Charge!! Day - 12 Running low on ammo and the one snickers bar left can only go so far. Coke is also low on supply and the dog has been running circles around my chair for the past 2 days. Must not leave the chair though, must endure! Day - 30 The dog chewed it's way through the front door and has yet to come back. The snickers bar is gone. I am subjected to licking the dried coke from the cans... Vision is getting blurry at times... There are 100 mc/fix/kia! Oh wait, that was just my blurry vision, there is only 50. Day - 50 Colors are mixing together, blue - red, it's all the same. We are making ships out of tech 1 cardboard. I hear pew, pew sounds when I drift off at times, or is that mining lasers? What do mining lasers sound like? lol, so true
gusta The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:45:00 - [423] Originally by: Murukan I would be surprised if it were mc that petitioned the cans. They have a firm grasp on battle tactics and i'm sure that they would of recognized that the cans are clearly for warp in points (because who just wants to sit and get sniped to death). TBH it was probably FiX that petitioned you guys cause from watching their posts regarding AAA anytime they lose it seems to be from haxploits. Muru stop forum whoring and come play eve with us :p
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:46:00 - [424] Originally by: gusta Originally by: Murukan I would be surprised if it were mc that petitioned the cans. They have a firm grasp on battle tactics and i'm sure that they would of recognized that the cans are clearly for warp in points (because who just wants to sit and get sniped to death). TBH it was probably FiX that petitioned you guys cause from watching their posts regarding AAA anytime they lose it seems to be from haxploits. Muru stop forum whoring and come play eve with us :p can't stuck at uni still In rust we trust!!!
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:47:00 - [425] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: gusta Originally by: Murukan I would be surprised if it were mc that petitioned the cans. They have a firm grasp on battle tactics and i'm sure that they would of recognized that the cans are clearly for warp in points (because who just wants to sit and get sniped to death). TBH it was probably FiX that petitioned you guys cause from watching their posts regarding AAA anytime they lose it seems to be from haxploits. Muru stop forum whoring and come play eve with us :p can't stuck at uni still Dont you hate Uni networks :(
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:48:00 - [426] I wanna kill nadija
gusta The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:51:00 - [427] Originally by: Traxio Nacho I wanna kill nadija Me too
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:55:00 - [428] Originally by: Traxio Nacho I wanna kill nadija he'd have to ask his girl if it's ok for him to play first though In rust we trust!!!
Der Pfaffe KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:56:00 - [429] OMG... I make a light hearted comment about dropping cans - I even used modifiers like "slightly naughty" in an attempt to let people know it is not meant seriously - and then the sky fell down. I apologise for my comment and I am sorry for any offence it may have caused. Now can we get on please ....
Yalson Caldari Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.16 21:07:00 - [430] Originally by: Murukan TBH it was probably FiX that petitioned you guys cause from watching their posts regarding AAA anytime they lose it seems to be from haxploits. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I'd be surprised if there was a petition from FIX, MC or KIA. We were having way too much fun during all the encounters to worry about silly petitions. Tip of the hat to your CovOps pilots constantly keeping us on the edge. -- Yalson

Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 21:32:00 - [431] Originally by: Tribunal Day - 1 Beer, check! Candy and other snacks, check! Ok! I am docked and ready to fight! Yeah. What's this? Wait for the PoSs to come out of reinforced, hrm. <drinks a beer> Day - 3 Lets rock on baby! Ammo, check! 3 x more isk in fitting then cost of ship, check! Beer, oh ffs out! Too late, can't get beer now. Must fight for the great cause! I still have some cokes left, hell yeah! Bring it baby! Charge!! Day - 12 Running low on ammo and the one snickers bar left can only go so far. Coke is also low on supply and the dog has been running circles around my chair for the past 2 days. Must not leave the chair though, must endure! Day - 30 The dog chewed it's way through the front door and has yet to come back. The snickers bar is gone. I am subjected to licking the dried coke from the cans... Vision is getting blurry at times... There are 100 mc/fix/kia! Oh wait, that was just my blurry vision, there is only 50. Day - 50 Colors are mixing together, blue - red, it's all the same. We are making ships out of tech 1 cardboard. I hear pew, pew sounds when I drift off at times, or is that mining lasers? What do mining lasers sound like? OMG im not alone! My cat literally gnawed through the wall. The fresh air from the hole in the wall actually seems to be reducing the smell from not showering for 50+ days. I think im actually stuck to my chair, and i cant feel my toes!!.. /me loves Eve!
Akuma Gouki Amarr Orion Ore International Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 01:58:00 - [432] I think EVE is my new girlfriend.
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 03:07:00 - [433] Originally by: James Don Edited by: James Don on 16/10/2006 16:33:40 T4 I though everyone was blaming IAC + friends for causing the node crashes more so than McFix?
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 03:19:00 - [434] Originally by: Der Pfaffe Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 16/10/2006 17:32:57 Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Murukan Maybe it's not your intention but the tone that i get from the post is that you're accusing IAC of intentionally blobbing up to crash the node. And also when you talk about how we use every game mechanic to our advantage that rather irks me because when people usually make the game mechanic arguement it's through accusations of log on traps and other shifty tactics. So far we have not used any shifty tactics and i would certaintly hope you are not implying that we are. Obviously you don't know the Waagaa we all love. To be honest, we noticed that there were fewer defenders than the first time, and were kindof pleasantly surprised. We hoped, in vain that we'd get through crash-free. No such luck, it seems. No need to get defensive. I don't think anyone is accusing IAC of the logonski/logoffski or something of that calibre. To be honest, I'm with Foofighter. Let's keep the war in-game. You, in particular, have smacked these forums up one side and down the other. You are far from the only one, though. TBH, all smacktalking does is make you likely to get primaried . See you in space. XOXO Crovan I haven't smacked mc, just fix Ok and i know you aren't accusing of log offs and stuff. But you have to admit when people say "you're using all of the game mechanics to your advantage" it's usually not in the form of a compliment He might be referring to slightly naughty stuff like dumping cans around your Pos's last night and then trying to tell the GM that removed some of them, that they were just "warp in points"... What would u prefer? that every time you warp in at a different point we take a pilot out of a combat ship and put them into a covert ops and leave them there? We cant warp on grid (well some of us can and some cant for some reason??) so when a hostile fleet warps out then warps back in to another point how is it not fair that we have something there which we are able to warp to? Tell you what, you only warp into celestial objects at default ranges, and we won't drop cans for warpin points.
Jouni Kalmar Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 03:33:00 - [435] Originally by: Eleese Re read what i typed and then feel free to edit your post, as i never once accused iac of causing lag, i never said mc petitioned you for this i merely took IAC word that someone petitioned them (and assumed it wasnt there own side). And pointed out petitioning of cans especially around pos's happens alot... as some people (not you) quite often use cans to gain an unfair advantage whether via lag or stop covert ops warping in. How is using cans to uncloak covert ops an unfair advantage? because the covert ops cant cloak anymore? oh noes! It is within the game mechanics, the game says if covops range < 2000 from an object, deactivate cloak.
Wierd Beard Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.17 03:42:00 - [436] Originally by: Akuma Gouki I think EVE is my new girlfriend. Eww dude. She's got 30,000 sweaty guys all over her at any given time. Hope you've got lots of penicillin.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 04:16:00 - [437] Originally by: Wierd Beard Originally by: Akuma Gouki I think EVE is my new girlfriend. Eww dude. She's got 30,000 sweaty guys all over her at any given time. Hope you've got lots of penicillin. lol awesome. Sig is a bit scary though In rust we trust!!!
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.17 06:03:00 - [438] Man... it doesn't take much for a thread to turn into a BoB/ASCN-style pile of crap. Time for a lock methinks. LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 06:22:00 - [439] Originally by: Latex Mistress Man... it doesn't take much for a thread to turn into a BoB/ASCN-style pile of crap. Time for a lock methinks. what exactly are you talking about? The sides are hardly flaming eachother. Sure we're disagreeing but it's not like we're going "zomg you guys suck" or any stupid crap like that. Just because we disagree doesn't mean the convo can't keep going. I would hardly say it's degraded to ascn/bob level yet In rust we trust!!!
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.17 08:37:00 - [440] Originally by: Murukan what exactly are you talking about? It's rather obvious where the thread is going, and it's certainly not on topic. The thread is a war story, not a blow-by-blow intel report or a running dialog about jetcans or numerical surpremacy to be handled by forum warriors. Originally by: Murukan The sides are hardly flaming eachother. Sure we're disagreeing but it's not like we're going "zomg you guys suck" or any stupid crap like that. No, just general and open accusations of lying, loss of "respect", etc... It's how it starts and it really is off topic. Originally by: Murukan Just because we disagree doesn't mean the convo can't keep going. Agreed, so long as it takes place in the appropriate thread. Again: this is a war story, not a running dialog of what's happening F4R right now. Originally by: Murukan I would hardly say it's degraded to ascn/bob level yet Operative word: "yet" LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time

Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.17 08:39:00 - [441] Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Originally by: Eleese Re read what i typed and then feel free to edit your post, as i never once accused iac of causing lag, i never said mc petitioned you for this i merely took IAC word that someone petitioned them (and assumed it wasnt there own side). And pointed out petitioning of cans especially around pos's happens alot... as some people (not you) quite often use cans to gain an unfair advantage whether via lag or stop covert ops warping in. How is using cans to uncloak covert ops an unfair advantage? because the covert ops cant cloak anymore? oh noes! It is within the game mechanics, the game says if covops range < 2000 from an object, deactivate cloak. Imagine the lag of 1 can at 15/20/40/60/80/100 km towards every celestial object causes. secure cans at that. I have only seen 1 pos who someone has gone through this much trouble to drop cans for and no didnt petition it we just blew them up with fighters while the dreads hit the pos. But i could understand why someone might petition it. Even if i wouldnt bother cos i have little faith in ccp responding intime for planned attack schedules and gm's are quite unpredictable as seen in this contract. I prefer to just get on with stuff as they are and make do.
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.17 08:53:00 - [442] Originally by: Thundirr Originally by: Tribunal Day - 1 Beer, check! Candy and other snacks, check! Ok! I am docked and ready to fight! Yeah. What's this? Wait for the PoSs to come out of reinforced, hrm. <drinks a beer> Day - 3 Lets rock on baby! Ammo, check! 3 x more isk in fitting then cost of ship, check! Beer, oh ffs out! Too late, can't get beer now. Must fight for the great cause! I still have some cokes left, hell yeah! Bring it baby! Charge!! Day - 12 Running low on ammo and the one snickers bar left can only go so far. Coke is also low on supply and the dog has been running circles around my chair for the past 2 days. Must not leave the chair though, must endure! Day - 30 The dog chewed it's way through the front door and has yet to come back. The snickers bar is gone. I am subjected to licking the dried coke from the cans... Vision is getting blurry at times... There are 100 mc/fix/kia! Oh wait, that was just my blurry vision, there is only 50. Day - 50 Colors are mixing together, blue - red, it's all the same. We are making ships out of tech 1 cardboard. I hear pew, pew sounds when I drift off at times, or is that mining lasers? What do mining lasers sound like? OMG im not alone! My cat literally gnawed through the wall. The fresh air from the hole in the wall actually seems to be reducing the smell from not showering for 50+ days. I think im actually stuck to my chair, and i cant feel my toes!!.. /me loves Eve! I'm hungry and naked, does that tell you anything?
Helplessandlost Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.17 11:25:00 - [443] I need more popcorn... "Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 11:50:00 - [444] Originally by: Latex Mistress Originally by: Murukan what exactly are you talking about? It's rather obvious where the thread is going, and it's certainly not on topic. The thread is a war story, not a blow-by-blow intel report or a running dialog about jetcans or numerical surpremacy to be handled by forum warriors. Like Yourself? Quote: Originally by: Murukan The sides are hardly flaming eachother. Sure we're disagreeing but it's not like we're going "zomg you guys suck" or any stupid crap like that. No, just general and open accusations of lying, loss of "respect", etc... It's how it starts and it really is off topic. Two sides to every war and there has been open lying and actions to really show a lack of respect in some situations. Quote: Originally by: Murukan Just because we disagree doesn't mean the convo can't keep going. Agreed, so long as it takes place in the appropriate thread. Again: this is a war story, not a running dialog of what's happening F4R right now. You corp openly said the war wasn't over. Story threads aren't covered in the forum rules yet and the war goes on. Don't get the panties in a bundle. It wasn't a completely accurate story and was overly biased and degrading. Quote: Originally by: Murukan I would hardly say it's degraded to ascn/bob level yet Operative word: "yet" I am sure you will be there when it does. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Admentus Cor'vion Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.17 11:55:00 - [445] Edited by: Admentus Cor''vion on 17/10/2006 11:55:20 How about this, I almost got fired (and my still get fired)over this war. HOW ABOUT THAT? :D (in rl job too, hehe, damn oversleeping) _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
spoon2 Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.17 12:12:00 - [446] Always surprises me how quickly these threads turn into smackfests, most of the people I meet who play Eve average in thier 20s, yet you would think the avaerage age is around 12 reading this thread and the BOB, ASCN threads. Anyway I missed the last engagement, I'm sure it was fun and respect to the enemy for creating so many losses on our side. Its a rare occurance for MC, enjoy your moment until the next one arrives.
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.17 12:18:00 - [447] Edited by: Del369 on 17/10/2006 12:19:46 Originally by: maGz Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 16/10/2006 16:32:23 Originally by: DHB FooFighter no offense, by we fought 50 v 35-40 most of the night and you had us outnumbered on BS. especially when that fix gang jumped in from F4 after AXE left. AXE was only there for 1 of 4 pos's. It was IAC that beat you last night. Every kill after 5:55 Eve time was made by my IAC gang of 50, AXE got bored and left :\. not a coalition. If you don't believe me check your mails :). anyways, was good fun and lag was minimal, except everytime i locked up for half a second i thought i was dead :P Sorry man, but that's the biggest load of spin crap bullocks I've read so far from you. Sadly though, because most of your post have been pretty reasonable, although colored. :) While you might have been outnumbered in BS in a couple of engagements, the fighter swarm more than made up for the lack of firepower. That including things like the awesome traffic control when you only try to jump in 20 people made this easier than it should be on the defending party. Props for locking down the system quite effectively and good scout work. You used that and the sheer amount of numbers to defend the system. The numbers pretty much guaranteed a node crash at the start of the night (and lo and behold, it crashed!) if we would all end up on one grid and after that it was pretty much impossible to get any forces into the system without them being in a jump queue for over 5 minutes. :) It's good to know who to target in an AXE gang to get them "bored" though <3 kezz / deathgrip :-p I'd say props to IAC for knowing how to play the game and use every game mechanic to their advantage. Shouting it was IAC that beats us last night doesn't nearly give enough credit to all your allies that showed up. If I were to jump all the jumps from Impass to hear I didn't make a difference I wouldn't be showing up next time... On a closing note, McFixKIA learnt a lot last night too about what could've been done better if we end up in a similiar situation next time. What used to be valid tactics when servers were stable and could actually handle 200 people in one grid nowadays just ends up letting you shoot yourself in the foot. :) Problem is you guys contionously belittle IAC & co. by saying you were outnumbered, making that the reason you lost not the fact that we were just better on the day. I wasn't there I'll admit, but it grows tiresome to read every single time you lose an engagement it was because you were outnumbered especially since so far (correct me if I'm wrong!) IAC have congratulated you guys on good skills/tactics when you've won battles... Bingo!!! we have a winner.... I want to die quietly in my sleep just like my dear old grandma, and not screaming in terror like her passengers!!
tigress Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 12:21:00 - [448] Hey stop that crap. I liked this engagement so much more when we just posted (slightly biased but still) opinions. Smackfests suck. And we don't wanna suck. mkay?
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.17 12:28:00 - [449] Originally by: tigress Hey stop that crap. I liked this engagement so much more when we just posted (slightly biased but still) opinions. Smackfests suck. And we don't wanna suck. mkay? Well said and couldn't agree more Enough of the he said she said stuff. Lets all keep this friendly and to the point that goes to everyone on both sides of this. I think both sides are enjoying it so lets not ruin the ingame fun with being smacky/nasty to each other on here.
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 12:35:00 - [450] Originally by: Crovan Now I remember why I sometimes hate EVE-O. Look, it was a good fight. The first mention of cans got brought up by some random alt (presumably, given the ! picture and lack of corp/alliance tags). It was a good fight. We made a couple of mistakes, and got really unlucky a couple of times with timing as well as grid shenanigans. Just leave it at that. You guys capitalized where you needed to and used effective counter-tactics to our tactics that had previously proven very effective. Good show. This thread started as what has generally been received as a very nice write-up of some very intense fighting. This whinging about who petitioned whom for what, or who outnumbered whom by how many is really not necessary, constructive, or enjoyable for any one (at least I hope nobody enjoys that sort of banter). When the cans were seen, I specifically remembered telling people that, while there was not a hard limit for where the GMs would step in, my understanding was that it had to be excessive, so not even to worry about it. You won a fleet engagement. Congrats. We'll be back. We'll see if you can repeat the performance. See you in space, and good luck. WELL SAID!!!!

Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.18 11:33:00 - [451] Originally by: Seleene Hey, all. Like many of you, I am still recovering from a lack of sleep and too much adrenaline in one night. Rest assured I'll do a write up of the past few days later tonight or early tommorow and try to lay everything out as clearly as possible. In short though, we got a bit over confident and went in with too few people to do the job tonight. The numbers in local at that time of night on a work day tell me that I'm probably not the only one who called in sick today. It's been a hell of a ride so far. Everyone get some sleep and we'll see what happens next. Where's that writeup ? I likes Seleene war stories. http://eve.klaki.net/


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