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Amiable Quinn Minmatar Lasleinur Production Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2006.11.07 12:39:00 - [241] Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Originally by: Amiable Quinn Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 07/11/2006 12:04:06 Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 07/11/2006 12:03:56 Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Originally by: Slarti One word....ADAPT Tell that to the carebears, not us, pirates always adapt, carebears have changes made due to the stress all their whining puts on teh servers. Lanfear's Bane. Lanfear, that post just got a wrecking hit by "Irony" for 1,237.6 damage. There is adapting and there is adapting. Forced constant adaptions are what we are complaining about, not a more natural evolutionary adaption. The gradual destruction of EVE Piracy. Lanfear's Bane. And carebears will need to adapt this patch too with the stab nerf. Check out the mission forums, there is much anger and gnashing of teeth over that change there. Everyone, carebear and pirate alike will need to adapt, and that is not necissarily a bad thing.
Aypse Sanguine Legion Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 13:50:00 - [242] This is not a matter of adapting or not. If they impliment warp to 0, I will NOT be canceling my subscription. I WILL adapt. That isn't the problem. The problem, and whats being discussed is the great reduction of risk associated with low sec if warp to 0 is implimented. We all lose when Eve reduces its risk. We play this game because its fun, exciting, and a rush. When you reduce the traveling risk in a large portion of our available universe, you reduce the excitement of Eve. We all lose when Eve becomes to easy to live. I remember the first time I entered low sec. I stared at that warning message for almost a minute, visualizing the thousands of ways I was going to die on the other side of that gate. I was so sure that I was entering a chaotic warzone, a area in which pirates were as common as flies. Death was a certainty. I was convinced I wouldn't get out alive. I didn't give myself more than a couple of jumps before some lite me up. My blood pressure shot through the roof and my eyes got big when I finally accepted the risk and jumped in. I flew around, and SAW PIRATES. FLASHY, RED PIRATES. With bounties! They targeted me, attacked me, I smashed the MWD and burned through a few jumps. It was exciting, a rush! Danger was everywhere and in my eyes every pilot was gunning for me. Today, most of the time I do not even feel the difference between low sec and empire. I have lived in 0.0 and low sec. I know the danger and am confident in my ability to survive, or at least put up a good fight. But yet, even I worry when I take my nicely fitted ship into a new area, a new system, when I see lots of APs ina system. And yes, even when I see other pirates in the system, I get that rush. Sure, I hate it when I get lite up in an unfair fight, but its moments like that, when my eyes get big and I am fighting to save my ship and nice mods that are the defining moments in Eve! Don't take this away. Don't reduce the risk in lowsec, because you will also reduce the excitement. Lets rachet up the risk! Increase the excitement, the feel of real fear of losing everything, the feel of wining a battle you shouldn't have, the excitement of seeing 15% left of your structure when you burn your way through a gate camp! Make lowsec the hell that it should be. Attack everyone and everything you see! Scream yarr and fire up the scramblers! Live the pirate life and feel the rush!
Mr Ninjaface Minmatar Shurekin INC	Posted - 2006.11.07 14:27:00 - [243] Originally by: Aypse This is not a matter of adapting or not. If they impliment warp to 0, I will NOT be canceling my subscription. I WILL adapt. That isn't the problem. The problem, and whats being discussed is the great reduction of risk associated with low sec if warp to 0 is implimented. We all lose when Eve reduces its risk. We play this game because its fun, exciting, and a rush. When you reduce the traveling risk in a large portion of our available universe, you reduce the excitement of Eve. We all lose when Eve becomes to easy to live. I remember the first time I entered low sec. I stared at that warning message for almost a minute, visualizing the thousands of ways I was going to die on the other side of that gate. I was so sure that I was entering a chaotic warzone, a area in which pirates were as common as flies. Death was a certainty. I was convinced I wouldn't get out alive. I didn't give myself more than a couple of jumps before some lite me up. My blood pressure shot through the roof and my eyes got big when I finally accepted the risk and jumped in. I flew around, and SAW PIRATES. FLASHY, RED PIRATES. With bounties! They targeted me, attacked me, I smashed the MWD and burned through a few jumps. It was exciting, a rush! Danger was everywhere and in my eyes every pilot was gunning for me. Today, most of the time I do not even feel the difference between low sec and empire. I have lived in 0.0 and low sec. I know the danger and am confident in my ability to survive, or at least put up a good fight. But yet, even I worry when I take my nicely fitted ship into a new area, a new system, when I see lots of APs ina system. And yes, even when I see other pirates in the system, I get that rush. Sure, I hate it when I get lite up in an unfair fight, but its moments like that, when my eyes get big and I am fighting to save my ship and nice mods that are the defining moments in Eve! Don't take this away. Don't reduce the risk in lowsec, because you will also reduce the excitement. Lets rachet up the risk! Increase the excitement, the feel of real fear of losing everything, the feel of wining a battle you shouldn't have, the excitement of seeing 15% left of your structure when you burn your way through a gate camp! Make lowsec the hell that it should be. Attack everyone and everything you see! Scream yarr and fire up the scramblers! Live the pirate life and feel the rush! they need to reduce the risk because low sec isnt profitable thats why most is all abandoned.
Brraiinnnssss Total Failure	Posted - 2006.11.07 15:19:00 - [244] /signed;;
Sanka Cofie Amarr Ministry of Silly Walks	Posted - 2006.11.07 15:54:00 - [245] If it were a matter of having a ship-rig, module, or implant that allowed you to warp to 0k off of a gate that would be fine. Because you'd be sacrificing something in the way of damage, cap, or repair. Much like the space for a stab is sacrificing an armor tank or damage mod. If it was 3k instead of 0 that would be fine. Because if you can't run 1.5k w/o getting blasted why are you in 0.0 to begin with?? But if this opens up 0.0 at all to less skilled players thats great. More people to shoot, even if they are harder to shoot at.
MaD Missy Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.07 16:10:00 - [246] Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: tiller I welcomed all pirates to the thread. Others are not welcome as I gave up with that long ago in gen discussion. Constant thread derailment and smack. In fact... much like you are doing to this thread now. Well, I'm back to game.. being some kind of keyboard warrior is not my style. Feel free to derail the thread and further drag it down to your level. Stabs fitted - Check Hauler in overview - Check Fireworks - You bet Ahh happy days. Now I am King of this Thread. BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH! Why did you guys stop arguing? it was fun ________________________________ Sig here soonTM! :P
Evil Sulu Sanguine Legion Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 16:49:00 - [247] Originally by: Scoundrelus Now I am King of Corp Jumping. BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH! Fixed that for you, scoundie. ------------- Public Channel: #Khanidblood
NightmareX Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 16:51:00 - [248] Originally by: Evil Sulu Originally by: Scoundrelus Now I am King of Corp Jumping. BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH! Fixed that for you, scoundie. ROFL
Portios Smith Sanguine Legion Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 17:41:00 - [249] Originally by: Evil Sulu Originally by: Scoundrelus Now I am King of Corp Jumping. BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH! Fixed that for you, scoundie.
Soumk	Posted - 2006.11.07 17:50:00 - [250] Picture a horde of pirates sitting on a gate as noob after noob warps to 0km and jumps through. Confusion will reign. The pirates will rend their clothes and gnash their teeth. They will scream in frustration. Tears will flow freely. All will appear hopeless to them. They will panic and blubber on the forums incessantly about nerfs. Of course at some point one of the pirates will jump through to the other side and yell: "HEY! ThereÆs TWO SIDES to this thing!" Normal gankage will then resume.
Slave 775 Privateers	Posted - 2006.11.07 17:54:00 - [251] / signed I think its far worse if you fight alliances in empire like we from Privateers. The amount of insta using wartargets there was minimal. Now all our wartargets will get the new warp to 0km from any direction, not only from the other gate or safespot. And on top of this the standings now show in local, so no more hiding between 100 persons in local for me. Im pretty unhappy about this.
Dr Smith	Posted - 2006.11.07 18:45:00 - [252] /signed Great words from a Dev on the test server "insta's suck" Get a clue. You built your game wrong
OrangeAfroMan Minmatar Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.11.07 19:35:00 - [253] Originally by: Pestillence Originally by: Altai Saker I disagree, I think those things were removed long ago, I haven't fought an actual target (read non noob) in over a year that didn't have a full set of insta's for their region including stations (as I'm guessing you do). All this does is level the playing field for newer members of the game and reduce lag. That being said I do agree that instadocks are pretty much impossible to counter especially given the large size of stations these days. QFT It's apparent all the "signed" posts are coming from people whose chosen form of pvp is having noobs warp into them at 15km in defenseless ships Yeah, lol @ all these "sky is falling" posters.. if you are actually a pirate then 99% of your fights occur in belts anyway, personally this change will only benefit me being that I'm well past the -5.0 mark and rarely have instas. Also CCP never wanted stargates to be the focus of PvP in the first place so... Btw tiller you can still have your noobs to kill because autopilot still warps you to 15km.
Aries Silvermoon Team Americas Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.07 19:42:00 - [254] look on the bright side. 1) Trade in lowsec will increase and pirates won't have to haul with an alt or complain about not being able to buy ships and fittings. 2) More people will come to rat and mine and run missions because they won't feel as threatened 3) unless they make major changes from what's on SiSi it will be much easier with probes to find that juciy faction-fitted navy raven running his lvl 4 mission. so "ONOES!! I can't pop t1 frigates with unnamed fittings at the gate anymore!!" I think piracy will thrive in Kali.
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 19:44:00 - [255] Edited by: tiller on 07/11/2006 19:44:49 Originally by: OrangeAfroMan Originally by: Pestillence Originally by: Altai Saker I disagree, I think those things were removed long ago, I haven't fought an actual target (read non noob) in over a year that didn't have a full set of insta's for their region including stations (as I'm guessing you do). All this does is level the playing field for newer members of the game and reduce lag. That being said I do agree that instadocks are pretty much impossible to counter especially given the large size of stations these days. QFT It's apparent all the "signed" posts are coming from people whose chosen form of pvp is having noobs warp into them at 15km in defenseless ships Yeah, lol @ all these "sky is falling" posters.. if you are actually a pirate then 99% of your fights occur in belts anyway, personally this change will only benefit me being that I'm well past the -5.0 mark and rarely have instas. Also CCP never wanted stargates to be the focus of PvP in the first place so... Btw tiller you can still have your noobs to kill because autopilot still warps you to 15km. 99% of fights in belts ?, shooting what exactly. Maybe the odd defenseless miner, not much of a challenge for your average solopwnmobile. I'd be the first to admit I'll kill anyone whos easy pickings with hesitation, I don't care if they joined eve 10mins previous. Anyway, choosing the correct target is maybe a topic for a whole new thread If CCP didn't want stargates to be the focus of PVP "in the first place", where do you suggest it should happen ? Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Katrina Coreli Vindication Angels	Posted - 2006.11.07 20:06:00 - [256] Solo PvP is dead. CCP Just wont stop mutilating the corpse...
LittleTerror Caldari Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 20:07:00 - [257] Edited by: LittleTerror on 07/11/2006 20:16:24 If this change goes through then so be it but carebears be warned we will find a way to kill you, all changes have made it worse for the carebear. We will lock down T1 frigs on jumping in, I guarantee you of that and you whine louder then you ever did, cos we will now get you in small ships befor you can even enter warp have fun. /edit hell we don't even need to lock you, all it will mean is BIGGER pirate blobs with one ship for every 5km around the gate packing smart bombs and when you uncloak you will be instantly destroyed. With so many ships we can tank sentrys np and still catch slow warpers. PS we have 578 members last time i checked so its no problem just a slight inconvenience thats all ___________________________________________________ I want your stuff
Soumk	Posted - 2006.11.07 20:15:00 - [258] This warp to 0km thing must be good because all the pirates are crying like little babies. Solo PvP is dead.... What a crock.
LittleTerror Caldari Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 20:20:00 - [259] Edited by: LittleTerror on 07/11/2006 20:21:45 Originally by: Soumk This warp to 0km thing must be good because all the pirates are crying like little babies. Solo PvP is dead.... What a crock. I'm not crying, I just find it funny how CCP keeps putting in other ways to hinder us, but they will have to call killing at gates an exploit to stop me. We always pick our selves up and come back with new improved ways of killing, I'm sorry it has come to this in the past it was possible to ransom in low sec at gates .... Now its just killing as fast as we can and we can do that, if people wish. ___________________________________________________ I want your stuff
OrangeAfroMan Minmatar Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.11.07 20:55:00 - [260] Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 07/11/2006 19:44:49 Originally by: OrangeAfroMan Originally by: Pestillence Originally by: Altai Saker I disagree, I think those things were removed long ago, I haven't fought an actual target (read non noob) in over a year that didn't have a full set of insta's for their region including stations (as I'm guessing you do). All this does is level the playing field for newer members of the game and reduce lag. That being said I do agree that instadocks are pretty much impossible to counter especially given the large size of stations these days. QFT It's apparent all the "signed" posts are coming from people whose chosen form of pvp is having noobs warp into them at 15km in defenseless ships Yeah, lol @ all these "sky is falling" posters.. if you are actually a pirate then 99% of your fights occur in belts anyway, personally this change will only benefit me being that I'm well past the -5.0 mark and rarely have instas. Also CCP never wanted stargates to be the focus of PvP in the first place so... Btw tiller you can still have your noobs to kill because autopilot still warps you to 15km. 99% of fights in belts ?, shooting what exactly. Maybe the odd defenseless miner, not much of a challenge for your average solopwnmobile. I'd be the first to admit I'll kill anyone whos easy pickings with hesitation, I don't care if they joined eve 10mins previous. Anyway, choosing the correct target is maybe a topic for a whole new thread If CCP didn't want stargates to be the focus of PVP "in the first place", where do you suggest it should happen ? I have killed exactly 3 miners in my whole EvE career. The rest were NPC or PvP fit. There's plenty to kill in belts if you know how to use a scanner (and as far as easy-pickingness goes, I don't kill anyone less than 30 days old, if I do they get 110% reimbursed) I have heard it stated by CCP before that they don't like how gates are where almost all of the war fighting etc occurs, I think they would rather it be at planets/belts/POS's[erm..] etc.. Btw who the hell are these people saying Solo PvP/Pirating is dead? ?? ?? ? Do they even Pirate?!
Evil Sulu Sanguine Legion Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 20:57:00 - [261] Originally by: OrangeAfroMan Yeah, lol @ all these "sky is falling" posters.. if you are actually a pirate then 99% of your fights occur in belts anyway, personally this change will only benefit me being that I'm well past the -5.0 mark and rarely have instas. Also CCP never wanted stargates to be the focus of PvP in the first place so... Btw tiller you can still have your noobs to kill because autopilot still warps you to 15km. I'm gonna have to call you on this one, Orange. I've personally flown with you in Khanid and just about every single engagement we had there was either at a gate or at a station, except when us blinky reds scared someone from the gate to a planet. So let's not kid ourselves with the "99% of true piracy occurs at belts" song and dance please. You've participated in your share of gate & station ganks, so don't pretend you're some kind of belt piracy purist. I still <3 you tho. ------------- Public Channel: #Khanidblood
OrangeAfroMan Minmatar Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.11.07 21:10:00 - [262] Originally by: Evil Sulu Originally by: OrangeAfroMan Yeah, lol @ all these "sky is falling" posters.. if you are actually a pirate then 99% of your fights occur in belts anyway, personally this change will only benefit me being that I'm well past the -5.0 mark and rarely have instas. Also CCP never wanted stargates to be the focus of PvP in the first place so... Btw tiller you can still have your noobs to kill because autopilot still warps you to 15km. I'm gonna have to call you on this one, Orange. I've personally flown with you in Khanid and just about every single engagement we had there was either at a gate or at a station, except when us blinky reds scared someone from the gate to a planet. So let's not kid ourselves with the "99% of true piracy occurs at belts" song and dance please. You've participated in your share of gate & station ganks, so don't pretend you're some kind of belt piracy purist. I still <3 you tho. Thats true, however the Khanid campaign was rather long ago, and yes when in gangs we ended up camping gates etc a LOT back then >.<
LittleTerror Caldari Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 21:23:00 - [263] Originally by: Evil Sulu Originally by: OrangeAfroMan Yeah, lol @ all these "sky is falling" posters.. if you are actually a pirate then 99% of your fights occur in belts anyway, personally this change will only benefit me being that I'm well past the -5.0 mark and rarely have instas. Also CCP never wanted stargates to be the focus of PvP in the first place so... Btw tiller you can still have your noobs to kill because autopilot still warps you to 15km. I'm gonna have to call you on this one, Orange. I've personally flown with you in Khanid and just about every single engagement we had there was either at a gate or at a station, except when us blinky reds scared someone from the gate to a planet. So let's not kid ourselves with the "99% of true piracy occurs at belts" song and dance please. You've participated in your share of gate & station ganks, so don't pretend you're some kind of belt piracy purist. I still <3 you tho. He wants the easy 0km to gates and stuff and we all want that but we don't want lowsec made easy for people because if we do well expect to ganked as you uncloak at a gate. Don't think for one minute we won't catch people, we already have people working out ways to combat it and that imo is bad for eve. The sentry boosts have made it worse the criminal flagging also made it worse. The sentry boost made us use fast locking sniping boats the criminal flag made us use bigger fleets perma tanking sentrys. In the end any solo/small pvp gangs are destroyed. Again we won't stop doing what we are doing, we will just make sure we get the job done 100% what ever the change and if that means the guy who is getting ganked does not even have time to speak then so be it. ___________________________________________________ I want your stuff
Gavin Tanner	Posted - 2006.11.07 21:58:00 - [264] WT0 ZOMG Piracy is dead,omg the sky is falling... rabble rabble rabble...pfft,adapt or go away,or better yet as too many Pie Rats like to say "go back to WOW." Now if they DO move lvl 4's to Low Sec, do you think everyone is gonna move there and keep running them? Some may, the people already there, but dont forget the WCS nerf...I bet a lot of high sec mission runners will say screw it unless they have a gang of their own. Probably be less solo ganks.
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 22:45:00 - [265] Ahh Gavin Tanner, the infamous eve pirate has spoken Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.07 23:18:00 - [266] Originally by: Skywalker I have been playing this game for 3 and a half year, and i choosed the profession "Pirate". If those changes get real, then the profession "pirate" will cease to exist. A pirate is an outlaw in my eyes, and there will be no outlaws if all pirate activities take place in 0.0 space. Pirate Coalition with over 500 members totally say NO to this change. If the changes are done, then we will have to move to 0.0 space and act like any other alliance out there. - There is one option though, if you allow 0km jump option, then also allow Bubbles and interdictors in low sec empire space. - SAY NO to "0km warping" /not signed By all means, come on into 0.0. Perhaps then you will understand why most of us 0.0 PvPers/pirates laugh at y'all "pirates" located in low sec. "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
LittleTerror Caldari Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 23:47:00 - [267] Edited by: LittleTerror on 07/11/2006 23:52:22 Originally by: Tribunal Originally by: Skywalker I have been playing this game for 3 and a half year, and i choosed the profession "Pirate". If those changes get real, then the profession "pirate" will cease to exist. A pirate is an outlaw in my eyes, and there will be no outlaws if all pirate activities take place in 0.0 space. Pirate Coalition with over 500 members totally say NO to this change. If the changes are done, then we will have to move to 0.0 space and act like any other alliance out there. - There is one option though, if you allow 0km jump option, then also allow Bubbles and interdictors in low sec empire space. - SAY NO to "0km warping" /not signed By all means, come on into 0.0. Perhaps then you will understand why most of us 0.0 PvPers/pirates laugh at y'all "pirates" located in low sec. :-) I really don't care about your 0.0 alliance thanks. Erm I care very little tbh, we will pirate where we want and if we really had to goto 0.0 you would be whining some more on the forums, see we don't do this pvp thing we just kill people when they ** up. If isk in lowsec = crap then we move and we start cloaking at gates and killing people in 0.0, with bubbles, we start dragging people out of warp. We start being total***s just like you... ___________________________________________________ I want your stuff
NightmareX Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.07 23:47:00 - [268] Originally by: Tribunal Originally by: Skywalker I have been playing this game for 3 and a half year, and i choosed the profession "Pirate". If those changes get real, then the profession "pirate" will cease to exist. A pirate is an outlaw in my eyes, and there will be no outlaws if all pirate activities take place in 0.0 space. Pirate Coalition with over 500 members totally say NO to this change. If the changes are done, then we will have to move to 0.0 space and act like any other alliance out there. - There is one option though, if you allow 0km jump option, then also allow Bubbles and interdictors in low sec empire space. - SAY NO to "0km warping" /not signed By all means, come on into 0.0. Perhaps then you will understand why most of us 0.0 PvPers/pirates laugh at y'all "pirates" located in low sec. Maybe you should be a pirate for a month or two and you will understand why we pirates laugh at y'all "carebears" that just whine on us pirates so you can be much safer in low sec
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.08 04:14:00 - [269] Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 08/11/2006 00:21:59 Originally by: Tribunal Originally by: Skywalker I have been playing this game for 3 and a half year, and i choosed the profession "Pirate". If those changes get real, then the profession "pirate" will cease to exist. A pirate is an outlaw in my eyes, and there will be no outlaws if all pirate activities take place in 0.0 space. Pirate Coalition with over 500 members totally say NO to this change. If the changes are done, then we will have to move to 0.0 space and act like any other alliance out there. - There is one option though, if you allow 0km jump option, then also allow Bubbles and interdictors in low sec empire space. - SAY NO to "0km warping" /not signed By all means, come on into 0.0. Perhaps then you will understand why most of us 0.0 PvPers/pirates laugh at y'all "pirates" located in low sec. Maybe you should be a pirate for a month or two and you will understand why we pirates laugh at y'all "carebears" that just whine on us pirates because you want to be much safer in low sec Sorry dumpling, but I'm stationed in 0.0 not low sec. By all means though, come on down and make 0.0 "unsafe" . Kinda funny that the "pirates" that are stationed in 0.0 (that have posted in this thread, and have my respect) don't really care about the warp to 0 nerf, but the high sec "pirates" are crying crocodile tears. Originally by: LittleTerror :-) I really don't care about your 0.0 alliance thanks. Erm I care very little tbh, we will pirate where we want and if we really had to goto 0.0 you would be whining some more on the forums, see we don't do this pvp thing we just kill people when they ** up. If isk in lowsec = crap then we move and we start cloaking at gates and killing people in 0.0, with bubbles, we start dragging people out of warp. We start being total*s just like you... I don't "whine" on the forums about PvP as I engage in it on a daily basis (well I did until IAC NAP'd everybody ). If you want a fight then come on down and we will be sure to give you just that, or you can sit in Jita crying because some 2 month old character, that you ward dec'd, warped 0 to the gate. "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by."** - Will Rogers
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.08 06:52:00 - [270] Edited by: tiller on 08/11/2006 06:55:07 Originally by: Tribunal Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 08/11/2006 00:21:59 Originally by: Tribunal Originally by: Skywalker I have been playing this game for 3 and a half year, and i choosed the profession "Pirate". If those changes get real, then the profession "pirate" will cease to exist. A pirate is an outlaw in my eyes, and there will be no outlaws if all pirate activities take place in 0.0 space. Pirate Coalition with over 500 members totally say NO to this change. If the changes are done, then we will have to move to 0.0 space and act like any other alliance out there. - There is one option though, if you allow 0km jump option, then also allow Bubbles and interdictors in low sec empire space. - SAY NO to "0km warping" /not signed By all means, come on into 0.0. Perhaps then you will understand why most of us 0.0 PvPers/pirates laugh at y'all "pirates" located in low sec. Maybe you should be a pirate for a month or two and you will understand why we pirates laugh at y'all "carebears" that just whine on us pirates because you want to be much safer in low sec Sorry dumpling, but I'm stationed in 0.0 not low sec. By all means though, come on down and make 0.0 "unsafe" . Kinda funny that the "pirates" that are stationed in 0.0 (that have posted in this thread, and have my respect) don't really care about the warp to 0 nerf, but the high sec "pirates" are crying crocodile tears. Originally by: LittleTerror :-) I really don't care about your 0.0 alliance thanks. Erm I care very little tbh, we will pirate where we want and if we really had to goto 0.0 you would be whining some more on the forums, see we don't do this pvp thing we just kill people when they ** up. If isk in lowsec = crap then we move and we start cloaking at gates and killing people in 0.0, with bubbles, we start dragging people out of warp. We start being total***s just like you... I don't "whine" on the forums about PvP as I engage in it on a daily basis (well I did until IAC NAP'd everybody ). If you want a fight then come on down and we will be sure to give you just that, or you can sit in Jita crying because some 2 month old character, that you ward dec'd, warped 0 to the gate. Generally 0.0 guys won't care much about warp to 0 as - 1 - I guess a great % of 0.0 users use instas 2 - Your small tacklers don't get BBQ by sentrys 3 - You have dictors and bubbles 4 - You can freely engage any target without sentry retribution All 4 points are the inverse for low sec inhabitants' It's funny how 0.0 pilots constantly big themselves up as being the 'creme of the crop', 'best of the best', 'we so brave out here'. Well, I could not give a rats ass where you are. If anything you have it easy compared with us bears in low sec.... of course we are gonna be unhappy when the VERY tough time we have already is gonna get twice as hard. Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage

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