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tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 16:56:00 - [1] Edited by: tiller on 05/11/2006 17:00:43 Fellow pirates (if you are not one then plz go away) First please excuse the rambling style of post, im a pirate not a scholar. As most are aware the current built of Kali on test server has 'warp to 0km' in place on gates and stations. This as far as I can see is the first stage in the removal of nonconsensual PVP from eve. Currently PVP takes place at the following locations, most likely in this order. (please feel free to comment on the order here, but from my limited experience this is the case) ----common areas---- 1. On gate approach 2. On gate exit 3. On docking approach 4. In belts ----not common place---- 5. On undocking 6. At POS / Outposts 7. At Safespots Now number 5 to 7 I would say are rare so those can be discounted. The proposed change in Kali means the 1st and 3rd most used areas for small scale non-consentual PVP are removed from the game. Eves possible PVP areas are in effect very limited and the change, though sounding trivial rips the PVP heart right out of eve and everything the PVP side of the game has ever meant. Though many will adapt to the changes, I can't help that feel this is a nerf to far. The sickening thing is that CCP did not plan for people to 'insta' travel, that was a effect bought on by bookmarks through accidental use of game mechs. Now to relieve server load CCP are going to change the very core of the gameplay. I've seen people argue in general discussion about this and say those who live for PVP need to adapt by using belts and scan probes for safes, but the targets in these areas are few and far between. Others argue that everyone uses instas anyway, again, I beg to differ.. and as I sit on gates for hours / years on end watching traffic I'm a better judge of this than your average eve pilot. Non-consentual PVP with chance of losing what you worked for is what sets eve above all the rest and makes traveling around actually fun and challenging. Without it I'd prefer to go play WOW tbh. Discuss. /signed one VERY unhappy tiller. Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Cain Bloodlust	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:01:00 - [2] I agree. I have been shopping around for some other game that sports non-consentual pvp, in case it gets removed from eve.
aP0Gee Gallente Crest Tech Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:02:00 - [3] /Signed This could be the end of PVP'ing forever in my eyes.
RIddIC Implant Liberation Front	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:04:00 - [4] /Signed
LittleTerror Caldari Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:05:00 - [5] /signed ___________________________________________________ I want your stuff
Altai Saker Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:05:00 - [6] I disagree, I think those things were removed long ago, I haven't fought an actual target (read non noob) in over a year that didn't have a full set of insta's for their region including stations (as I'm guessing you do). All this does is level the playing field for newer members of the game and reduce lag. That being said I do agree that instadocks are pretty much impossible to counter especially given the large size of stations these days.
Chaz Pounder Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:06:00 - [7] /Signed 400x120@24000 bytes , Max. -Capsicum
Nagissa Kaworu Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:07:00 - [8] /signed and signed again. Nag.
Kaynard Stormwalker Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:10:00 - [9] Well gatecamping in 0.1 and up will be extinct, but maybe that should populate some of the really empty 0.0 systems and that way we will see more bubble camps. :P Which might actually be bad, because once you cant travel around when you need to it gets annoying. But really, most people that get pwned in gate camps are usually noobs or lazy people that lack instas. I dont think we shall see a huge loss. Now maybe they should boost smartbombs and we'll see lots of smarbombs camps ?Heh. Its a pretty big change, but I think it will be considered and is not final I guess. We can only hope ;x
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Altai Saker I disagree, I think those things were removed long ago, I haven't fought an actual target (read non noob) in over a year that didn't have a full set of insta's for their region including stations (as I'm guessing you do). All this does is level the playing field for newer members of the game and reduce lag. That being said I do agree that instadocks are pretty much impossible to counter especially given the large size of stations these days. QFT It's apparent all the "signed" posts are coming from people whose chosen form of pvp is having noobs warp into them at 15km in defenseless ships
ivan rumanov	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:12:00 - [11] signed So.....The nerf bat has risen again. I agree this is one nerf to far, But what do i matter i only pay a sub each month like the rest of us. ( take note ccp we pay ur bills )
Sanka Cofie Amarr Ministry of Silly Walks	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:14:00 - [12] Sprinting to a gate in low sec was one the first exciting moments I had in EvE. Sometimes you make it. Sometimes you don't. Eventually you learn to scan. I don't see why CCP is doing this. It guts the game.
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Pestillence Originally by: Altai Saker I disagree, I think those things were removed long ago, I haven't fought an actual target (read non noob) in over a year that didn't have a full set of insta's for their region including stations (as I'm guessing you do). All this does is level the playing field for newer members of the game and reduce lag. That being said I do agree that instadocks are pretty much impossible to counter especially given the large size of stations these days. QFT It's apparent all the "signed" posts are coming from people whose chosen form of pvp is having noobs warp into them at 15km in defenseless ships This thread is not to discuss 'noobs' and their inability to defend themselves in dangerous space after being given a warning about jumping in. Thanks Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
NightmareX Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:15:00 - [14] I totaly agree with tiller in this case
Dehok Implant Liberation Front	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:15:00 - [15] Originally by: Pestillence Originally by: Altai Saker I disagree, I think those things were removed long ago, I haven't fought an actual target (read non noob) in over a year that didn't have a full set of insta's for their region including stations (as I'm guessing you do). All this does is level the playing field for newer members of the game and reduce lag. That being said I do agree that instadocks are pretty much impossible to counter especially given the large size of stations these days. QFT It's apparent all the "signed" posts are coming from people whose chosen form of pvp is having noobs warp into them at 15km in defenseless ships Here come the bears
Boris Panasku	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:17:00 - [16] If things go this way i dont think ill continue to pay for playing this game. What the hell do they want to nerft pvp on EVE??? this is what its all about. signed
T'Renn Vale Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:19:00 - [17] signed and signed again for good measure. -- If by some chance I managed to kill you, I can assure you it was purely luck.
Nagissa Kaworu Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:23:00 - [18] Edited by: Nagissa Kaworu on 05/11/2006 17:32:03 Originally by: Boris Panasku If things go this way i dont think ill continue to pay for playing this game. What the hell do they want to nerft pvp on EVE??? this is what its all about. signed I totally agree, pvp is what makes EVE such a great game in whatever form it comes, be it fleet pvp or gate camping. This nerf is just one gate to far Nag.
Lo3d3R Implant Liberation Front Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:23:00 - [19] /signed - your paying subcription for a few years perfectly strikes you with a different game - ___________________ Eating Chopped Bear:
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:31:00 - [20] The vast majority have instas already or you catch them jumping in. It won't change snigg gate camps much, mabe an extra 5% will get away but probably wouldn't of been worth much anyway. And as for belt piracy, i can't really see how it changes it much. Hopefully it will reduce my jump in lag so i can start searching for my targets quicker. ----
Scoundrelus Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:32:00 - [21] Edited by: Scoundrelus on 05/11/2006 17:35:48 Have you guys completely forgotten how to pirate? I RARELY kill people at gates. I lose more to stabs, and now that will change. Furthermore if you want to kill people nothing it stopping you from killing them when they jump through a gate. They will still be 15km from the gate when they jump through. Frankly I see the people who are bothered by this the most as the least skilled of PvPers. If you are that scared to engage people on planets and belts then perhaps you SHOULD go play WoW. Furthermore, with the ability to jump 0km to the gate, more people will have the courage to actually go to low sec. Thus populating low sec more. As I said in a previous thread, the #1 reason I hear from people for not going to low sec is "I don't have instas". If you really want to gate camp that badly then go to 0.0 with an interdictor. Frankly I think you just want to kill people with no challange. Fine, thats your choice to make in EVE, but don't complain when they make it harder for you. EDIT: Oh and don't forget that if a person aggresses you and then jumps to the station/gate at 0km they still won't be able to jump through or dock. =============================================== We are Watching You.
PCaBoo Caldari Newbies On Xstacy Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:34:00 - [22] /signed I'm already very upset about other coming changes to the game... this one alone would make me move on to something else.
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:34:00 - [23] Originally by: Dehok Originally by: Pestillence Originally by: Altai Saker I disagree, I think those things were removed long ago, I haven't fought an actual target (read non noob) in over a year that didn't have a full set of insta's for their region including stations (as I'm guessing you do). All this does is level the playing field for newer members of the game and reduce lag. That being said I do agree that instadocks are pretty much impossible to counter especially given the large size of stations these days. QFT It's apparent all the "signed" posts are coming from people whose chosen form of pvp is having noobs warp into them at 15km in defenseless ships Here come the bears You know, I've probably killed more people than you who are capable, willing and able to fight back. I dont pvp from outside sentry range aligned with a cov ops scout in the next system in case of a threat. In fact I've come after a certain person from your corp once before with equal numbers and he docked and smacked. Seems thats all you and yours are good for. I live in Murethand by the way. Thats lowsec. If I'm such a carebear then why dont you move in there and come and kill me? Fact is, the post I quoted was right. I'm glad it nerfs your play"style". Want a tissue? / Cry me a river / Boo hoo.
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:35:00 - [24] Originally by: Narciss Sevar The vast majority have instas already or you catch them jumping in. It won't change snigg gate camps much, mabe an extra 5% will get away but probably wouldn't of been worth much anyway. And as for belt piracy, i can't really see how it changes it much. Hopefully it will reduce my jump in lag so i can start searching for my targets quicker. I think the other problem is there is now never a occasion you can trap someone in a system. Denial of movement is a big part of eve currently, removing that bites off another large chunk of gameplay. Never again will you chase a target around a system. He can just leave or dock... Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:35:00 - [25] its mostly empire gate campers thats getting nerfed... people that roam alot wont feel it that much
Mr Filth Shadow League	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:43:00 - [26] They might aswell make lowsec 0.0 space, just with the security-hit as the only difference. Think they should go with "warp to 10" or maybe even "warp to 5" but to make it "warp to 0" will simply remove gate piracy in lowsec and remove the dangers/fun of travelling there. Tbh CCP, wake the F*** up and put away your 0.0-alliance-blob-warfare-fetish and focus on the other aspects of the game. Making the game worthwhile for everyone.
Dehok Implant Liberation Front	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:44:00 - [27] Originally by: Pestillence Originally by: Dehok Originally by: Pestillence Originally by: Altai Saker I disagree, I think those things were removed long ago, I haven't fought an actual target (read non noob) in over a year that didn't have a full set of insta's for their region including stations (as I'm guessing you do). All this does is level the playing field for newer members of the game and reduce lag. That being said I do agree that instadocks are pretty much impossible to counter especially given the large size of stations these days. QFT It's apparent all the "signed" posts are coming from people whose chosen form of pvp is having noobs warp into them at 15km in defenseless ships Here come the bears You know, I've probably killed more people than you who are capable, willing and able to fight back. I dont pvp from outside sentry range aligned with a cov ops scout in the next system in case of a threat. In fact I've come after a certain person from your corp once before with equal numbers and he docked and smacked. Seems thats all you and yours are good for. I live in Murethand by the way. Thats lowsec. If I'm such a carebear then why dont you move in there and come and kill me? Fact is, the post I quoted was right. I'm glad it nerfs your play"style". Want a tissue? / Cry me a river / Boo hoo. Touchy Touchy, i sence alot of anger in you sure i would love to meet up with ya, shall i bring a hauler aswell? mining i hear pays well. back on topic, i will not sign something i have yet to try.
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:46:00 - [28] Originally by: Dehok Touchy Touchy, i sence alot of anger in you I'm pathalogically against being pidgeonholed
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:46:00 - [29] Originally by: Gallant Nose /signed Warp to 0km is an obsurd idea. It takes away loads of pvp scenarios. Pirating is already hard enough without it being nerfed some more. If you go in to low sec its your risk, allowing 0km warp in makes most of the concept of low sec pointless. It's meant to be dangerous, that's why it allows pirates tbh. If you want to go in to low sec you shouldnt be moaning about 15km warp in. Exactly, low sec should make you shake and sweat abit, it's apart or the unique experience that eve has to offer. A frig now wandering into 'uncharted' space now has nothing to ever fear. Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Sean Dillon Caldari Privateers	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:47:00 - [30] /Signed CCP is killing 75% of the pvp with this.

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