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Nytemaster Mega-Deth	Posted - 2006.11.17 15:45:00 - [151] Originally by: Nate D I wouldn't mind them adding 84ó - $1 a month to the subscription costs... I havn't heard anyone gripe about the idea and it's been suggested several times. And that way people paying with GTCs could use voice comms as well. I wonder what the general concensus would be? -NateÖ They could go even lower considering a few things. - Most people aren't going to use it anyway so bandwidth isn't going to be used on 30k players at one time, something much less, but yes much more than if you individualized - They would be getting $.80 more out of 100,000 players rather than $.80 on 10k players (an estimate of 10% of the community paying for this feature was used) --- Nytemaster If you think that jump ques are lame, sign the jump que petition.
Nate D New Applied Technological Endeavours	Posted - 2006.11.17 17:00:00 - [152] Edited by: Nate D on 17/11/2006 17:01:57 Originally by: Nytemaster Originally by: Nate D I wouldn't mind them adding 84ó - $1 a month to the subscription costs... I havn't heard anyone gripe about the idea and it's been suggested several times. And that way people paying with GTCs could use voice comms as well. I wonder what the general concensus would be? -NateÖ They could go even lower considering a few things. - Most people aren't going to use it anyway so bandwidth isn't going to be used on 30k players at one time, something much less, but yes much more than if you individualized - They would be getting $.80 more out of 100,000 players rather than $.80 on 10k players (an estimate of 10% of the community paying for this feature was used) What bases do you believe that if everyone had this feature that they wouldn't use it? Anyways... here's How to: Split audio for USB headset users! You can play voice chat back separately from the rest of the game audio (i.e., you can use a USB headset to hear chat while you hear the rest of the game audio on the main speakers). To do this first make sure the EVE application is not running and that all sound devices are properly plugged in, and then: 1. Open the Sounds and Audio Devices function within your Windows Control Panel. 2. In the Audio tab select the primary input and output audio devices from the drop down list. If you are using a USB audio device make sure it has been recognized by Windows and shows in the drop down list. 3. Open the Volume tab and make sure that the Mute box is not checked and Device volume is set where you want it. 4. In the Audio tab uncheck the ôUse only default audio devicesö check box. 5. In the Voice tab configure ôVoice playbackö and ôVoice recordingö to point to the secondary audio device. 6. (Optional) In the Voice tab select ôTest hardwareö to open the Sound Hardware Test Wizard and use the wizard to further tune voice playback and recording. 7. Finally, go to the Sounds tab and play the system sounds to make sure you can still hear them through the main speakers. Note standard EVE system notifications like ôDocking requestedö will also be played back through this secondary device. Also on Quality: In terms of codec quality there are many factors sampling rate of the codec, compression ratio, frequency spread which all determine the quality under lab settings. Things like mic quality, sound card, ambient noise and data noise (generated through packet loss, 60 hz feedback from bad ground loops etc.) all impact voice on the net. In general any codec that is 32 kbs or better will give relatively the same audio quality to the vast majority of listeners. Vivox uses a high bitrate and low compression which puts less stress on your processor and that's why it performs so well under client lag. -NateÖ --- Voice Chat/Vivox [New Tutorial] Still waiting for CCP to hire me...! Don't worry... SoonÖ
ChronoLynx Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2006.11.17 17:28:00 - [153] Originally by: Khetchi I keep hearing people complain that vent/TS is better/cheaper than the proposed embedded voice channels... You're missing the point. Here's a point-by-point comparason between the three: Cost - The proposed in-game system is on a per-user basis and costs about 80 cents per user per month. Vent and TS require a single person to rent a site at a cost of about 40 cents per person. Assuming you have a modest account of 100 people, that's $480 per year one person will have to pay to keep the vent/TS cahnnel open. Compare this to the $10 per year for Vivox. People seem to be under the false impression that vent/TS are free... as someone who has a 250-slot account on both vent and TS, I can assure $2000/year isn't the same as "free". Ease of use - This is perhaps the biggest thing Vivox has going for it. You don't have to constantly swap between your game and the vent/TS window to see what's going on. Everything is on the game screen. [rant] Firstly, you can host your own Teamspeak server for free if you have DSL (I use to host one). Secondly you can download a nifty little Teamspeak addon called Teamspeak Overlay or setup a ingame website to work with Teamspeak. Teamspeak overlay works almost exatly like frapz working with the DX engine and sticking the images over the game. [/rant]
Nate D New Applied Technological Endeavours	Posted - 2006.11.17 17:31:00 - [154] Originally by: ChronoLynx Originally by: Khetchi I keep hearing people complain that vent/TS is better/cheaper than the proposed embedded voice channels... You're missing the point. Here's a point-by-point comparason between the three: Cost - The proposed in-game system is on a per-user basis and costs about 80 cents per user per month. Vent and TS require a single person to rent a site at a cost of about 40 cents per person. Assuming you have a modest account of 100 people, that's $480 per year one person will have to pay to keep the vent/TS cahnnel open. Compare this to the $10 per year for Vivox. People seem to be under the false impression that vent/TS are free... as someone who has a 250-slot account on both vent and TS, I can assure $2000/year isn't the same as "free". Ease of use - This is perhaps the biggest thing Vivox has going for it. You don't have to constantly swap between your game and the vent/TS window to see what's going on. Everything is on the game screen. [rant] Firstly, you can host your own Teamspeak server for free if you have DSL (I use to host one). Secondly you can download a nifty little Teamspeak addon called Teamspeak Overlay or setup a ingame website to work with Teamspeak. Teamspeak overlay works almost exatly like frapz working with the DX engine and sticking the images over the game. [/rant] TS Overlay sometimes disapears after you alt tab... kind of annoying. I'd like the "who's talking" indicator to be just like TS Overlay though it's very nice. -NateÖ --- Voice Chat/Vivox [USB Headset? Split Audio] Still waiting for CCP to hire me...! Don't worry... SoonÖ
Daniel Jackson Caldari Black Force	Posted - 2006.11.17 18:53:00 - [155] Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 17/11/2006 18:56:41 who cares if u have a USB head sets most players dont even use them, hell u cvant even find them in stores were i live, and well thers no point in every player be payign subscription, thers nothen that free services fior other voice comes can do differntly. all its really good for s so u can see whos talking, whitch i like that feature alkot causse the teamspweak overlay never works for me and i tryed meny people suggestions they didet woek, but its f**** stupid for everey *** player to ** pay to just to *** talk on their ***** services. just so you can see the person whos talking. ___________________
Barkel	Posted - 2006.11.17 21:06:00 - [156] Originally by: ChronoLynx Firstly, you can host your own Teamspeak server for free if you have DSL (I use to host one). Secondly you can download a nifty little Teamspeak addon called Teamspeak Overlay or setup a ingame website to work with Teamspeak. Teamspeak overlay works almost exatly like frapz working with the DX engine and sticking the images over the game. Aren't you still paying for the server though and the bandwidth? Yeah I could set up a server but I'm not sure my 3mbps DSL bandwidth could reliably support a 100+ Teamspeak/Ventrillo gang.

Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:01:00 - [157] altho it's not in your client yet, it is possible on the internal client to set the mouse button as the "pust to talk" button. just thought i would let you know Spank You later

Nate D New Applied Technological Endeavours	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:06:00 - [158] Originally by: Daniel Jackson Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 17/11/2006 18:56:41 who cares if u have a USB head sets most players dont even use them, hell u cvant even find them in stores were i live, and well thers no point in every player be payign subscription, thers nothen that free services fior other voice comes can do differntly. all its really good for s so u can see whos talking, whitch i like that feature alkot causse the teamspweak overlay never works for me and i tryed meny people suggestions they didet woek, but its f**** stupid for everey *** player to ** pay to just to *** talk on their ***** services. just so you can see the person whos talking. You're Angry that I changed the title? On what bases of facts are you assuming that most eve players don't use USB headsets? I have changed the title to deal with USB headsets and Splitting Audio due to the fact that people were talking about it earlier (Page 2) in this thread which you claim to have read. There's a lot of things that integrated voice comms can do that out of game voice comms can't but if you don't see them by reading the OP then I won't bother trying to explain. You seem to have Tourette's... I'm sorry that must suck. Seriously though... You are paying to use a service. It's just like the service that allows you to play eve which if I may remind you... you also pay for... -NateÖ P.S. I'm BEGGING you to read at least some of this thread including the OP before you continue with your rant. That way we might be able to have a debate rather than a... nevermind you're probably not reading this anyways... --- Voice Chat/Vivox [USB Headset? Split Audio] Still waiting for CCP to hire me...! Don't worry... SoonÖ
Nate D New Applied Technological Endeavours	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:07:00 - [159] Originally by: Sharkbait altho it's not in your client yet, it is possible on the internal client to set the mouse button as the "pust to talk" button. just thought i would let you know THANK YOU SHARKBAIT!!! -NateÖ --- Voice Chat/Vivox [USB Headset? Split Audio] Still waiting for CCP to hire me...! Don't worry... SoonÖ
Daniel Jackson Caldari Black Force	Posted - 2006.11.18 07:32:00 - [160] Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 18/11/2006 07:32:40 Originally by: Nate D Originally by: Daniel Jackson Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 17/11/2006 18:56:41 who cares if u have a USB head sets most players dont even use them, hell u cvant even find them in stores were i live, and well thers no point in every player be payign subscription, thers nothen that free services fior other voice comes can do differntly. all its really good for s so u can see whos talking, whitch i like that feature alkot causse the teamspweak overlay never works for me and i tryed meny people suggestions they didet woek, but its f**** stupid for everey *** player to ** pay to just to *** talk on their ***** services. just so you can see the person whos talking. You're Angry that I changed the title? On what bases of facts are you assuming that most eve players don't use USB headsets? I have changed the title to deal with USB headsets and Splitting Audio due to the fact that people were talking about it earlier (Page 2) in this thread which you claim to have read. There's a lot of things that integrated voice comms can do that out of game voice comms can't but if you don't see them by reading the OP then I won't bother trying to explain. You seem to have Tourette's... I'm sorry that must suck. Seriously though... You are paying to use a service. It's just like the service that allows you to play eve which if I may remind you... you also pay for... -NateÖ P.S. I'm BEGGING you to read at least some of this thread including the OP before you continue with your rant. That way we might be able to have a debate rather than a... nevermind you're probably not reading this anyways... u,mm befor u go rampaling and stuff, i did reaad the opening, i always do befor posting, how u know i found oabout the pay thing?, well it was on the op but not cleary said at all, it should ssay it DIRECTLY, as right atm it could mean mwny things, ansd ive read as much fourm as poossable some i just skiped xcause i cant be bother to keepo readiong other peoples post on info that isent related to what im looking for. and ill just be fine usign mmy pown home hosted free ventrilo servicce ___________________

Helison Gallente Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.18 11:05:00 - [161] Tried to follow the guide by Nate D, but "join audio" doesn¦t do anything at all. But nevermind, i¦ll stay with TS (no sense paying 10$ for this crap).
Nelix Trist Caldari Nostromo Industries	Posted - 2006.11.18 11:47:00 - [162] As stated before, this "integration" of a product, will be one of the best ever added. I know there are people out there that really donÆt like the way things are going with this but, there are many people that do. Shouting mouths off about who donÆt like it, wonÆt get anyone no where. All it does is clutter up this thread with post that really donÆt help <- Now yes they are your opinion, and some maybe fact, but for the people like me, that cant get onto the test server Hint Hint, Wink Wink The bad posts really donÆt give a good idea. At this moment in time, I am going to get this just for the fact, I can talk to people that I might not normally talk to. Player created channels such as "Eve-radio" and "EveTv" - Can you just think of what I would be like to chat with Voice other than type in these channels. Would be great! Anyway on another note, could someone please activate my account on Sisi? I'm dieing to test this thing. Emm?"Cant touch this" den der der dum, der dum der dum KILLING THE BUG'S, BEFORE THEY KILL YOU Un-nerfing you sig is bad mmmmkay - Xorus RAWRRR!111 - Immy-Poos
Daniel Jackson Caldari Black Force	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:40:00 - [163] Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 18/11/2006 16:40:26 Originally by: Nelix Trist As stated before, this "integration" of a product, will be one of the best ever added. I know there are people out there that really donÆt like the way things are going with this but, there are many people that do. Shouting mouths off about who donÆt like it, wonÆt get anyone no where. All it does is clutter up this thread with post that really donÆt help <- Now yes they are your opinion, and some maybe fact, but for the people like me, that cant get onto the test server Hint Hint, Wink Wink The bad posts really donÆt give a good idea. At this moment in time, I am going to get this just for the fact, I can talk to people that I might not normally talk to. Player created channels such as "Eve-radio" and "EveTv" - Can you just think of what I would be like to chat with Voice other than type in these channels. Would be great! Anyway on another note, could someone please activate my account on Sisi? I'm dieing to test this thing. i think u need to pay for it on sisi, as well, cause i was on there and i setted my own key, and was in voice test chan, and well followed all durections but coudent get the thing to work. ___________________
BustyBounty Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:19:00 - [164] Edited by: BustyBounty on 18/11/2006 17:27:06 anyone on windows 2000 have vivox working? i get an error in windows as soon as i login to eve , then if i try and right click any channels i get the error pop up again Application popup: EVE: ExeFile.exe - Entry Point Not Found : The procedure entry point WTSUnRegisterSessionNotification could not be located in the dynamic link library WTSAPI32.dll. does vivox support win2k (pro)? some google searchs suggest anyone who has ever had this error with any programs is because they dont support win2k only xp eve is dropping win2k support to? ------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance I belong to.
Ominus Decre The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:47:00 - [165] Originally by: ChronoLynx Originally by: Khetchi I keep hearing people complain that vent/TS is better/cheaper than the proposed embedded voice channels... You're missing the point. Here's a point-by-point comparason between the three: Cost - The proposed in-game system is on a per-user basis and costs about 80 cents per user per month. Vent and TS require a single person to rent a site at a cost of about 40 cents per person. Assuming you have a modest account of 100 people, that's $480 per year one person will have to pay to keep the vent/TS cahnnel open. Compare this to the $10 per year for Vivox. People seem to be under the false impression that vent/TS are free... as someone who has a 250-slot account on both vent and TS, I can assure $2000/year isn't the same as "free". Ease of use - This is perhaps the biggest thing Vivox has going for it. You don't have to constantly swap between your game and the vent/TS window to see what's going on. Everything is on the game screen. [rant] Firstly, you can host your own Teamspeak server for free if you have DSL (I use to host one). Secondly you can download a nifty little Teamspeak addon called Teamspeak Overlay or setup a ingame website to work with Teamspeak. Teamspeak overlay works almost exatly like frapz working with the DX engine and sticking the images over the game. [/rant] Perversion:
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:57:00 - [166] Originally by: Sharkbait altho it's not in your client yet, it is possible on the internal client to set the mouse button as the "pust to talk" button. just thought i would let you know Is that 'any' mouse button? Forsch Defender of the empire It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Nate D New Applied Technological Endeavours	Posted - 2006.11.18 23:28:00 - [167] Silence... Your mind clears... As you look around all you can see is the desolate moon below. The vastness of space surrounds you, it's dark. Your scanner is empty and you feel safe. For once you've found a haven where no one knows of your existence. A glimmer of sunlight stretches over the cratered moon. The feeling of seclusion fades as the warmth of your sun flows over your ship. You close your eyes and imagine being back home... at last... Suddenly your comms ***le, you hear a faint voice. You turn on your long range scanners and probe for other ships in the area. As you search you come across a distress beacon not too far from your current location. There is a sign of life by the beacon. You set your ship to warp. Your ship enters warp... As the walls of the warp tunnel collapse around you, flames from a wreckage catch your eye. A light on your control panel starts blinking as if someone is trying to contact you. You open a comm channel... Silence... The sun is now in full view and the light is blinding. You hear a frightening sound from your open comms channel. It sounds as if someone is gasping for air, as if someone is dying. "Hello... is anyone there?" As you finish your question you hear a moan. "Are you ok?" You ask. A cough is heard and a rattling voice shouts out "They come from the Sun!" Your comms shut off and whoever was there before doesn't seem to be there now... As your ship sits stagnant in space you look towards the sun pondering what you just heard. Squinting in the brightness of the sun you make out an object. It seems to be a very large object and it's getting closer. Another voice comm channel opens. The voice on the other end is deep and dreadful sounding. "May God's almighty light clean your disease ridden kind from the face of existence!" A blinding light fills every corner and every void of darkness that was there before. You feel your heart beating as you look down to find that there is only blinding light from where the moon once was... You have nothing to do now but wait... And now your heart beats no more... (At least you know how you died) Voice Comms are Coming** The new Era has begun. -NateÖ --- Voice Chat/Vivox [Better Quality? New Info] Still waiting for CCP to hire me...! Don't worry... SoonÖ
sidious1 Wu-Tang Financial Mordus Angels	Posted - 2006.11.19 01:56:00 - [168] I dont know if this has been mentioned. But I found that you can turn the master volume all the way down in the esc. menu and the voice lvl up and still hear people talk. All you get rid of is in game sounds, ie.. warping/docking etc... This is very nice for those who use multiple characters and for people who dont want to hear in game explosions, but rather hear the FC or whatever...
Nate D New Applied Technological Endeavours	Posted - 2006.11.19 02:39:00 - [169] Originally by: sidious1 I dont know if this has been mentioned. But I found that you can turn the master volume all the way down in the esc. menu and the voice lvl up and still hear people talk. All you get rid of is in game sounds, ie.. warping/docking etc... This is very nice for those who use multiple characters and for people who dont want to hear in game explosions, but rather hear the FC or whatever... The ingame "Voice" sound control refers to Aurora's voice. Thw EVE sound controls don't affect the sound level of voice chat. -NateÖ --- Voice Comms are Coming ...SoonÖ [Click]
Squidrim Farge	Posted - 2006.11.19 12:01:00 - [170] im having some issues. followed the guide set up the binds did the audio config . and i've relogged several times over the last couple of days but when i click "join audio" it just sits there and does nothing. i dont see the vioce icon of other people that have joined it either. i'll wait for the next patch and if it still dosent work i'll get down to a bugreport

Skeltek Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.20 00:32:00 - [171] Originally by: BustyBounty Edited by: BustyBounty on 18/11/2006 17:27:06 anyone on windows 2000 have vivox working? i get an error in windows as soon as i login to eve , then if i try and right click any channels i get the error pop up again Application popup: EVE: ExeFile.exe - Entry Point Not Found : The procedure entry point WTSUnRegisterSessionNotification could not be located in the dynamic link library WTSAPI32.dll. does vivox support win2k (pro)? some google searchs suggest anyone who has ever had this error with any programs is because they dont support win2k only xp eve is dropping win2k support to? got exactly the same error message. It is also generated when right-clicking on most channelnames(except local channel). -Local channel works fine when right clicking. -Corp, alliance and public alliance channels generate an errormessage like the above. The error message is immediately put in front of the game screen(I play fullscreenmode), when clicking it away, the game continues. this one is special: -TESTVIVOX channel generates the same errormessage as above, but the errormessage is not displayed on top of everything else, but is running in the background. The game totaly freezes up, taskswitching does not work at all. Only opening the taskmanager will make desktop, taskmanager and errormessage appear, making it clickable. After clicking away the errormessage, the game unfreezes and the game continues.
BustyBounty Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.20 01:30:00 - [172] Edited by: BustyBounty on 20/11/2006 01:33:53 skeltek are you on windows 2000 aswell? i made a thread about it HERE but so far only me and 1 other guy seem to use windows 2000 out of everyone who has tested kali or the rest are keeping quiet i bug reported it to just to make sure the devs are aware vivox doesnt apear to support windows 2000 even though eve is meant to. i hope they dont break windows 2000 support just for voice chat that alot of people didnt want anyway. btw local channel works fine for right clicking the tab because VIVOX isnt active for local , when you right click a channel tab your meant to get an option to join in voice chat for that channel ------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance I belong to.
Celesta Croft Caldari Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.20 20:08:00 - [173] Originally by: Pepperami It totally needs to be able to work for local chat... Only if it comes equiped with a temp and perma mute key. I dont feel like listening to folks with permanent open mic's and or obnoxious brats blasting thier music over an open chan.
JForce The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:54:00 - [174] I support this feature, but with a few thoughts, most of which have already been voiced, but I thought I'd compile them: Pricing Add $1 to the monthly sub fee, and make it available for all. This makes it available for all, as well as infinitely easier for players to arrange subscriptions etc Make it possible for a corp to pay for a "bulk" account for their members. This I think is CRUCIAL Remove the ability to have an open mike. It's just not necessary. I've never heard anyone use it successfully, or well. Fix/move the who's talking indicator Make it possible to adjust sounds independently. Most players run with sound off. I don't want to have to turn on the lag-inducing Eve sounds just to use chat.
Nate D Naughty Ambitious Temptatious Endeavours	Posted - 2006.11.20 23:24:00 - [175] Edited by: Nate D on 20/11/2006 23:26:18 Originally by: JForce I support this feature, but with a few thoughts, most of which have already been voiced, but I thought I'd compile them: Pricing Add $1 to the monthly sub fee, and make it available for all. This makes it available for all, as well as infinitely easier for players to arrange subscriptions etc Make it possible for a corp to pay for a "bulk" account for their members. This I think is CRUCIAL Remove the ability to have an open mike. It's just not necessary. I've never heard anyone use it successfully, or well. Fix/move the who's talking indicator Make it possible to adjust sounds independently. Most players run with sound off. I don't want to have to turn on the lag-inducing Eve sounds just to use chat. 1. I like the idea of adding $1 to subscription and no one seems to be negative towards it... then again I don't see CCP doing this but I'm sure it's still up in the air. 2. The ability for an open mic was a bug and is now fixed. 3. I was told by the Dev responsible for developing the Voice stuff that he agreed that the talking indicator was hard to see and he'd like to see it more visable. 4. Voice sounds ARE independent from EVE sounds. -NateÖ --- Voice Comms are Coming ...SoonÖ [Click]
Daniel Jackson Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.11.21 02:20:00 - [176] lets make a vote fo the add $1 to our scription for it, cause its alot better then paying for somthign completly differnt threa diffent mthoddss whitcch are the main prob whitch i was argourign about ___________________
Dunpeal Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.11.21 13:07:00 - [177] Originally by: Nate D Pricing Add $1 to the monthly sub fee, and make it available for all. This makes it available for all, as well as infinitely easier for players to arrange subscriptions etc -Nate™ /signed!! it makes no sense at all for an integrated sound system if it's not for EVERYONE to use... that way most won't bother to change from they're current voice system and vivox will just fade away into a minor adition i can see the days where someone enter's a system and broadcasts to the whole system to hear "Your doom has arrived, relinquish you're weapons and you shall be spared your putty life's. Fight and we will take you're putrid remains from the red hot wreckage of your ship!" reading that, and actually HEARING it while you're fleeing away from an enemy fleet has a totally different effect mind games, constantly hearing "come out, come out wherever you are..." "you can run but you can't hide" while being chased upon... i just LOOOVE the idea P.S: i ain't a pirate, but love to hunt them when i get the chance hehe Bow down, and i'll make your death even more painfull! At least die with some dignity Maximum dimensions for signature images are 400w x 120h and 24kb file size. --Jorauk
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.21 13:42:00 - [178] Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 21/11/2006 13:42:29 it doesnt work on windows 2000 only XP , eve is meant to support both lets not force 10% of the eve subcribers or however many still use windows 2000 to pay for something they cant use. Quote: reading that, and actually HEARING it while you're fleeing away from an enemy fleet has a totally different effect Twisted Evil theres no vivox for local so its not going to happen ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own.
Fenderson Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:31:00 - [179] Originally by: JForce Pricing Add $1 to the monthly sub fee, and make it available for all. This makes it available for all, as well as infinitely easier for players to arrange subscriptions etc Remove the ability to have an open mike. It's just not necessary. I've never heard anyone use it successfully, or well. Fix/move the who's talking indicator Make it possible to adjust sounds independently. Most players run with sound off. I don't want to have to turn on the lag-inducing Eve sounds just to use chat. If these suggestions were implemented, vivox would be a vastly preferable solution to using vent or TS. Also the ability to have teired gangs on voice comms will be a huge plus. You can do this with TS currently but i hate the sound quality on TS. But yeah please please please remove any ability to have an open mike. Voice activation never works the way you want it to and i dont need to hear people heavy-breathing in my ear while im trying to pew-pew.
Elaron Minmatar Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:42:00 - [180] Still can't join voice. Another bug report with DXDiag and logserver capture submitted. Elaron It is never too late to correct the mistakes of the past.



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