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Comboduck
TURN LEFT
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Posted - 2011.12.05 09:31:00 -
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It's be pretty awesome if remote assistance showed up on killmails, and lossmails.
For instance, if I remote rep a sleipnir killing another sleipnir, I will show up on the dead sleipnirs lossmail. Also, if the other sleipnir happens to win, I will show up in a seperate column on my gangmates lossmail with how much I repped him.
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XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
136
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Posted - 2011.12.05 09:43:00 -
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Sure thing, just as soon as they fix the problem of you guys not inheriting aggression session penalties and being able to dock and jump through gates while assisting people rendering logi nearly invincible on gate and station.
The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.
One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear. |
Comboduck
TURN LEFT
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Posted - 2011.12.05 09:47:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:Sure thing, just as soon as they fix the problem of you guys not inheriting aggression session penalties and being able to dock and jump through gates while assisting people rendering logi nearly invincible on gate and station.
COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC YOU NEED TO FOCUS
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2011.12.05 09:54:00 -
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That is why logis come with drones so they can killmail ***** with the best of them. |
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
136
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:02:00 -
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Comboduck wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:Sure thing, just as soon as they fix the problem of you guys not inheriting aggression session penalties and being able to dock and jump through gates while assisting people rendering logi nearly invincible on gate and station. COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC YOU NEED TO FOCUS
It's on topic, you can have lazy access to killmails if they fix the inherent problems with them. In order to get on a killmail currently they need to perform an act of aggression which is completely fair, it's also really easy to put a small arty or use a flight of light drones to get on it my friends do this all the time.
If you want kills for reps they should fix the ships and give inherited aggression for reps on ships shooting other ships as well. Fair is fair.
The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.
One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:04:00 -
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Comboduck wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:Sure thing, just as soon as they fix the problem of you guys not inheriting aggression session penalties and being able to dock and jump through gates while assisting people rendering logi nearly invincible on gate and station. COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC YOU NEED TO FOCUS
I like his idea more.
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Comboduck
TURN LEFT
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:08:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:Comboduck wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:Sure thing, just as soon as they fix the problem of you guys not inheriting aggression session penalties and being able to dock and jump through gates while assisting people rendering logi nearly invincible on gate and station. COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC YOU NEED TO FOCUS It's on topic, you can have lazy access to killmails if they fix the inherent problems with them. In order to get on a killmail currently they need to perform an act of aggression which is completely fair, it's also really easy to put a small arty or use a flight of light drones to get on it my friends do this all the time. If you want kills for reps they should fix the ships and give inherited aggression for reps on ships shooting other ships as well. Fair is fair.
m8m8m8 there is NOTHING lazy about flying a logistics m8 and it should be rewarded!!11111
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XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
136
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:13:00 -
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Comboduck wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:Comboduck wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:Sure thing, just as soon as they fix the problem of you guys not inheriting aggression session penalties and being able to dock and jump through gates while assisting people rendering logi nearly invincible on gate and station. COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC YOU NEED TO FOCUS It's on topic, you can have lazy access to killmails if they fix the inherent problems with them. In order to get on a killmail currently they need to perform an act of aggression which is completely fair, it's also really easy to put a small arty or use a flight of light drones to get on it my friends do this all the time. If you want kills for reps they should fix the ships and give inherited aggression for reps on ships shooting other ships as well. Fair is fair. m8m8m8 there is NOTHING lazy about flying a logistics m8 and it should be rewarded!!11111
Your apathy towards broken mechanics should not be rewarded, logis have needed session mechanics addressed for ages. If a logi want's to rep a ship engaged in combat it should not be effectively invincible on stations and gates.
I know that takes a steaming dump on the 1337 legions of highsec warriors and people afraid to commit but none the less it's a loophole that's long overdue in being addressed.
The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.
One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:17:00 -
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Comboduck wrote:
m8m8m8 there is NOTHING lazy about flying a logistics m8 and it should be rewarded!!11111
Oh please you think you have it bad?
I like to fly scout but even though its me that finds the targets, me that gets the warp ins and me that will end up in a bubble deathtrap first I get to shoot even less than you logi pilots. It comes with the job. |
Comboduck
TURN LEFT
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:17:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:Comboduck wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:Comboduck wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:Sure thing, just as soon as they fix the problem of you guys not inheriting aggression session penalties and being able to dock and jump through gates while assisting people rendering logi nearly invincible on gate and station. COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC YOU NEED TO FOCUS It's on topic, you can have lazy access to killmails if they fix the inherent problems with them. In order to get on a killmail currently they need to perform an act of aggression which is completely fair, it's also really easy to put a small arty or use a flight of light drones to get on it my friends do this all the time. If you want kills for reps they should fix the ships and give inherited aggression for reps on ships shooting other ships as well. Fair is fair. m8m8m8 there is NOTHING lazy about flying a logistics m8 and it should be rewarded!!11111 Your apathy towards broken mechanics should not be rewarded, logis have needed session mechanics addressed for ages. If a logi want's to rep a ship engaged in combat it should not be effectively invincible on stations and gates. I know that takes a steaming dump on the 1337 legions of highsec warriors and people afraid to commit but none the less it's a loophole that's long overdue in being addressed.
butbut look at all my logistics losses I shou+¦dn't be punished for sploiters ist's not fair
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Valei Khurelem
Khurelem Corporation
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Posted - 2011.12.05 11:00:00 -
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I think this is a great idea, put kill mails on logistics so we can see who the suicide gankers and industrial griefers are. |
Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2011.12.05 11:34:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:Comboduck wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:Sure thing, just as soon as they fix the problem of you guys not inheriting aggression session penalties and being able to dock and jump through gates while assisting people rendering logi nearly invincible on gate and station. COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC YOU NEED TO FOCUS It's on topic, you can have lazy access to killmails if they fix the inherent problems with them. In order to get on a killmail currently they need to perform an act of aggression which is completely fair, it's also really easy to put a small arty or use a flight of light drones to get on it my friends do this all the time. If you want kills for reps they should fix the ships and give inherited aggression for reps on ships shooting other ships as well. Fair is fair.
Funny how a doctor bubble causes aggression but half the time doesn't show up.
Killmails should be overhauled into a combat report including all parties involved in the action.
Logistics can have a separate area with zero damage or on the friendly mail with HP given. And yes, repping a player should transfer aggression. |
Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises
Unprovoked Aggression
144
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Posted - 2011.12.05 11:42:00 -
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"you shouldnt play for killmails anyway"
I don't really care what you think i should play for. I'd like my scimi on the killmail please =D |
Comboduck
TURN LEFT
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Posted - 2011.12.05 11:49:00 -
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Personally I don't care much for killmails - I want a more accurate representation of the gangs in the battle reports to be possible. Links should be represented somehow as well I think. |
Soma Khan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.05 13:26:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:
Killmails should be overhauled into a combat report including all parties involved in the action.
Logistics can have a separate area with zero damage or on the friendly mail with HP given. And yes, repping a player should transfer aggression.
this really. however the empire neut logi problem should be fixed concurrently |
Keyanu
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2011.12.05 14:43:00 -
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Your argument isn't vaild.
If you're not willing to aggress, you don't deserve to be on a killmail. The changes you're proposing is for you to have some sort of 'safe' wimp out-ish PvP where you can jump or dock at any time. This will certainly reduce the amount of losses you are taking!
You need to think things through before posting. |
Xtover
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.12.05 14:45:00 -
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Keyanu wrote:Your argument isn't vaild.
If you're not willing to aggress, you don't deserve to be on a killmail. The changes you're proposing is for you to have some sort of 'safe' wimp out-ish PvP where you can jump or dock at any time. This will certainly reduce the amount of losses you are taking!
You need to think things through before posting.
You should read a thread before posting.
It's been agreed that such a thing would require the spread of agression to a repping player. With or without a killmail change it should be done. |
Keyanu
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2011.12.05 14:50:00 -
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Xtover wrote:Keyanu wrote:Your argument isn't vaild.
If you're not willing to aggress, you don't deserve to be on a killmail. The changes you're proposing is for you to have some sort of 'safe' wimp out-ish PvP where you can jump or dock at any time. This will certainly reduce the amount of losses you are taking!
You need to think things through before posting. You should read a thread before posting. It's been agreed that such a thing would require the spread of agression to a repping player. With or without a killmail change it should be done.
I wasn't responding to the thread but to the post which I specifically wrote. I was unaware the thread agreed to anything, enlighten me? |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.05 14:57:00 -
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Comboduck wrote:It's be pretty awesome if remote assistance showed up on killmails, and lossmails.
For instance, if I remote rep a sleipnir killing another sleipnir, I will show up on the dead sleipnirs lossmail. Also, if the other sleipnir happens to win, I will show up in a seperate column on my gangmates lossmail with how much I repped him.
ANY THOTS
Thing is that the majority of players are just KM hunters, not being on KM's means you're "not" at "x" op for example, doesn't brings you benefits on your personal KB, and it's such annoying has play paladin in wow...
The moment the logistics is in the fleet he should be visible on any KM just like Bob1 shooting a ship and not killing him for the first time, once the guy gets reps and gets killed by Bob2, the first Bob can be in Jita and the second in Rens but both will be on the KM, this looks like stupid heh?
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Ur235
Mind Games.
0ccupational Hazzard
3
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Posted - 2011.12.05 15:34:00 -
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Im a regular logi user and I jost tend to put small drones in my drone bay set them to assist someone i know whos good and put the drones on defensive only so then my drones only ever attack what my gang mate and not fly around and attack every neut on the overview therefore most of the time the drones are always attacking whatever the primary is
Obviosly for something like an Oneiros or a Scimmy as you say you dont really get that luxury and you are generally burning away from the fight and your drone range most of the time is only 45km max so yeh i can see your problem. It would be nice and would probably get alot more people flying Logi ships aswell
[url]http://occupational-hazzard.net/?a=home[/url] |
Goose99
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
273
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:04:00 -
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km should be removed. Problem solved. |
FR3D DURST
LIMP BI2KIT
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:35:00 -
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ANOTHER HIGHSEC 1337 PRO PVPER WHINE.
LET ME GUESS, YOU HONOR 1 V 1'S AS WELL???
NOT SUPPORTED.
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Vigdis Thorisdottir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.05 17:53:00 -
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I support this. It would make it easier to know what to expect when going after '1337 pvpers'.
Also, it would give a way to tell the difference between real pvpers and chickenshit pvpers just by checking out their killboard. |
Comboduck
TURN LEFT
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Posted - 2011.12.05 17:58:00 -
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Keyanu wrote:Your argument isn't vaild.
If you're not willing to aggress, you don't deserve to be on a killmail. The changes you're proposing is for you to have some sort of 'safe' wimp out-ish PvP where you can jump or dock at any time. This will certainly reduce the amount of losses you are taking!
You need to think things through before posting.
My post pretty clearly speaks about remote assistance, and a fair amount of logi fits does not have anything to agress with anyway. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
136
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:08:00 -
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I will RR people fighting on stations in my 200k EHP RR BS to farm killmails.
Massive battleclinic stats here I come! |
Sin Meng
Creative Assembly
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:09:00 -
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I would really like to see this be part of a wide-reaching overhaul of the "battle metrics" system. I think this is something that would be more at home in a kind of built-in battle report generation method. Like some kind of synopsis of everything that happened during a period of time that the game would consider a battle between any number of ships. It would hopefully not only highlight player breakdowns but also statistics such as total damage dealt, total damage repaired, shots fired, etc.
Basically make the battle reports compiled by many killboards an official game feature. Maybe even have these reports mailed to certain role-bearing members of corporations and alliances involved for analysis and ridicule.
Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either. |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
88
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:14:00 -
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Booster ships should show up on killmails as well.
If a dram kills you with the assistance of a scimitar and a loki the killmail should show that he killed you with assistance of a a scimitar and loki. Its really pretty simple.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
4
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:15:00 -
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since killmails are an unseparable part of EVE PVP, If implemented in the right way, this would lead to:
1. significantly more accurate mail-based battle reports.
2. much-deserved recognition to logistics pilots.
.. so if there are no major technical issues restricting such a change, everyone wins pretty much.
(well, everyone besides the dishonourable few who explicitly lie about not using logistics in their adventures)
that being said, there's a reason why "balefire" launchers exist and the ~* true elite logi pilots *~ know this. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
136
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:18:00 -
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The Implants of the people on the killmail should show up too so that when you get killed and the other guy had a slave/snake/crystal set you can blame it on that. Everyone within 10km of the destroyed ship should show up on the mail so bump ships get included also it should show the total SP of all involved parties.
Actually just include a full API of everyone in system at the time and we can assume that they were all conspiring together. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:22:00 -
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why ?
Does "I <3 logis" in fleet channels is not enough of recognition  |
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