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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.15 19:14:50 -
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Hello everyone! As we announced first at Fanfest, we are running a test server playtest of the new sovereignty capture system so that players can get a chance to try it out before it hits TQ, and so that we can get lots of testing to prevent bugs and issues before they reach the live server.
We accepted signups via EVEMail for a few months, and we've now sent response EVEMails to all the interested alliance executors to give them all the details. If your alliance signed up to participate, poke your executors and make sure they've checked their EVEMails.
Current expected schedule is for the server to open up for people to start preparing sometime this weekend, and for the competition to begin next week, Tuesday at the earliest.
This will also serve as a general purpose thread for questions and comments about the Duality playtest.
Alliances that have signed up (with their starting constellations):
- Affirmative. (04-H4M)
- Brave Collective (G2E-RJ)
- Darkness. (ZQ2-CF)
- Fidelas Constans (I9B-8X)
- I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth (Q-6LG1)
- Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork (H-KW4A)
- Nemesis Enterprises (FDR-EQ)
- No Not Believing (AZBG-H)
- Pandemic Legion (HS7W-T)
- Praetorian Directorate (NNLX-K)
- Q Alliance-á(UD-ZJ3)
- Spectre Fleet (XV7L-S)
- Stella Nova (P6N8-J)
- Suddenly Spaceships (5-88B9)
Spectre Fleet will be forming an alliance on Duality and has asked us to let people know that they will be accepting characters into their alliance. So if you are interested in joining this test but aren't a member of a participating alliance feel free to give them a shout.
Quote:Rules:All rules and dates are subject to change. The primary purpose of this event is testing of new Sovereignty features. CCP staff reserves the right to penalize or disqualify alliances if they act in a manner which interferes with the goal of testing. The server simulation is taken as is, and we guarantee no reimbursement or compensation for any losses on Duality. The server may go down unexpectedly, and in extreme cases there may be database resets required. It's a test server running fresh features so a bunch of **** is probably going to break, make peace with that reality. The Duality server is expected to open up for you all this weekend (approximately June 12th), with the competition beginning early next week (approximately June 15th) and ending on July 6th. These dates are all subject to change, but if we do change them we'll give you as much notice as possible. A mass test will likely take place at some point during this time period, which may disrupt the competition temporarily. Alliances are welcome to accept members on Duality even if those players aren't members on TQ. If you would like CCP to help advertise your Duality recruitment for this playtest, let us know and weGÇÖll help as much as we can. We do not currently plan on restricting access to the Duality server during this competition, so pilots who are not involved with any of the competing alliance are welcome to show up and interact with the ongoing competition. This competition will take place in the entirety of Providence and three constellations in Catch (NNLX-K, T-HHHT, and FDR-EQ). Players are not restricted to this area and are welcome to use nearby areas for movement and to base in nearby NPC stations to launch counterinvasions if they lose their space. However be aware that outside of the competition zones server performance will likely be significantly poorer. Important: There will be some characters on the Duality server with the tag "PTW" in their name, as well as ISD bug hunters and CCP characters. These are QA professionals working on systematically testing the new features. They will generally be in completely different regions than the playtest, but if you do encounter them you are not allowed to shoot them or otherwise interfere with them. If you Entosis their **** we'll smite you with the banhammer. Each alliance will begin the competition with sovereignty over one constellation (assigned by CCP) in the competition area. Any remaining constellations will be claimed by a set of neutral placeholder alliances. The neutral placeholder alliances will not make any serious efforts to defend their space during this playtest (I may or may not show up in a Maulus to mess with you). Each system will begin the competition with a TCU and an IHUB, and most systems have stations (because Providence). The objective of the competition is to have as many of the three core sovereignty structures (TCU, IHUB, Station) belonging to your alliance online in the competition area as possible at the time when the competition ends. Alliances are welcome to make agreements with each other, support each other, and generally scheme however they want. Each TCU, IHUB and Station in the competition area will be worth one point. The prizes (more details below) include special honour for the alliance with the most points, as well as some prizes that are drawn randomly with each point providing the alliance with one "ticket" to the draw. This means that even if you do not expect to be able to come 1st it is still worthwhile to hold as many systems as possible by the end of the competition. Each constellation will have a market seeded system, and players are welcome to bring their own equipment from the TQ mirror as well. Please bug report any issues you find, and if you find a clear exploit please report it and then refrain from abusing it. Prizes:The names of every alliance that participates in this testing event (by capturing at least one system within the competition area) will be listed in the description of the Entosis Link I blueprint, in order from the highest points to lowest points. The identity of the first place alliance will be incorporated prominently into the lore surrounding the Entosis Link. We will also be naming four meta variations of the Entosis Link after four of the alliances in this playtest. The meta naming alliances will be drawn in a raffle, with each point counting as one raffle ticket for that alliance. Of the four randomly selected alliances, we will first allow the one with the highest point value to choose which meta variation they prefer to bear their name, and then the next highest and so on. For instance, if I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth get drawn in the raffle, people could be looting the blueprint for the "J4LP Modified Compact Entosis Link" for decades to come. Thank you all very much for participating in this playtest, and we hope you'll have a great time...
Game Designer | Team Five-0
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.15 19:15:02 -
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Game Designer | Team Five-0
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.15 19:15:19 -
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CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.15 19:25:14 -
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CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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Ryno Caval
House of Praetor Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.06.15 20:55:44 -
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I don't know if anyone else is having this issue but when I attempt to log onto Duality I am being prompted that my account has been disabled. Is this a known problem or am I not doing something right. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
12955

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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:05:19 -
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Ryno Caval wrote:I don't know if anyone else is having this issue but when I attempt to log onto Duality I am being prompted that my account has been disabled. Is this a known problem or am I not doing something right.
I've reactivated you. For anyone else with the same problem, post in this thread.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie
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Onslaughtor
Occult National Security Phoenix Naval Systems
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:13:31 -
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For curiosities sake. If a alliance that didn't sign up for the play test were to take systems, would they be added to the listing? And how would that be handled? |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
12955

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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:42:02 -
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Onslaughtor wrote:For curiosities sake. If a alliance that didn't sign up for the play test were to take systems, would they be added to the listing? And how would that be handled? I can't make any promises, but if you take space in the competition zone we'll try to incorporate you into the lore somehow if possible.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie
http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
12955

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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:44:08 -
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Since this build doesn't allow station capture yet and station services can only be repaired by the station owning alliance, we've transferred the stations in the seeded systems to their respective alliances. The rest of the structures will be set up for you all right before we start the competition.
No Not Believing and Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork alliances both closed on this mirror, so you'll need to reform your alliances before we start the competition.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
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Gabriel Karade
Noir. No Not Believing
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:46:39 -
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Found a pretty critical bug on duality - can I pm someone?
War Machine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=386293
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:56:39 -
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Gabriel Karade wrote:Found a pretty critical bug on duality - can I pm someone?
(assuming I can't use normal petition route as it is Duality...) You can send me a mail if you wish, but the best strategy would be to report the bug in client (F12 -> Report Bug), or failing that, through our website: https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports/
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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Gabriel Karade
Noir. No Not Believing
256
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Posted - 2015.06.15 22:22:16 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:Gabriel Karade wrote:Found a pretty critical bug on duality - can I pm someone?
(assuming I can't use normal petition route as it is Duality...) You can send me a mail if you wish, but the best strategy would be to report the bug in client (F12 -> Report Bug), or failing that, through our website: https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports/
I've submitted it through the client, didn't realise it logs automatically - neat feature.
Quite an amusing 'bug' (if it is one - might just be me, will try logging in tomorrow); would cause all sorts of fun and mayhem on TQ.... 
War Machine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=386293
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Blue Ice
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.06.15 23:08:19 -
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Please seed Deadspace/faction items.
Most importantly - armor hardeners, eanms, shield hardeners, remote reppers, points, webs, prop mods, weapon upgrades. |

Feetzor
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2015.06.15 23:33:04 -
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Agreed please seed Deadspace/faction items. And remove at least some of the special edition ships from the market, seeing full fleets of them would be bad! Many doctrines are designed around deadspace/faction and may not fit using t2 modules. |

Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.06.16 03:37:55 -
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im gonna make a wild geuss and assume /boostsov is disabled as well |

kiu Nakamura
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.06.16 04:17:14 -
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Bug report I
https://gist.github.com/kiu/4ee1060a0174d6915343 |

Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
421
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Posted - 2015.06.16 04:36:28 -
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Please DONT seed deadspace/faction. It's ridiculous enough as it is with limited issue ships like etanas/cambions/whiptails and HG pirate sets but what's done is done. Might as well keep whatever's left of the resemblance to the real server intact |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.16 08:28:30 -
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Rowells wrote:im gonna make a wild geuss and assume /boostsov is disabled as well
Your wild guess is correct. No magical sov boost, except at the start of the test by us. 
CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock
Bug reporting | Mass Testing
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utec asmo
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.16 09:24:50 -
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Blue Ice wrote:Please seed Deadspace/faction items.
Most importantly - armor hardeners, eanms, shield hardeners, remote reppers, points, webs, prop mods, weapon upgrades.
No.
Stay poor. |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
1357

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Posted - 2015.06.16 10:18:08 -
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Gabriel Karade wrote:CCP Lebowski wrote:Gabriel Karade wrote:Found a pretty critical bug on duality - can I pm someone?
(assuming I can't use normal petition route as it is Duality...) You can send me a mail if you wish, but the best strategy would be to report the bug in client (F12 -> Report Bug), or failing that, through our website: https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports/
I've submitted it through the client, didn't realise it logs automatically - neat feature. Quite an amusing 'bug' (if it is one - might just be me, will try logging in tomorrow); would cause all sorts of fun and mayhem on TQ.... 
Thank you for your report. It seems like you managed to find a very rare edge-case with ships containing drones, which are several years old. I assume that this would also be reproducible on Singularity.
CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock
Bug reporting | Mass Testing
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Lisselle Rotsuda
SN Holdings Stella Nova
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Posted - 2015.06.16 12:41:18 -
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Just to be clear you will set up sov structures? You dont want us to drop TCU's and IHub's? And the current Duality sov constellation will populate the Alliance sov window before the test starts? |

Lisselle Rotsuda
SN Holdings Stella Nova
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Posted - 2015.06.16 12:43:16 -
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Also... as Dotlan won't show the sov ownership and changes, obviously, how can we follow whats happening and also know what is friendly or not territory once the test starts? |

Alan Artemisa
The Dysfunctionals Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.06.16 12:51:10 -
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Lisselle Rotsuda wrote:Also... as Dotlan won't show the sov ownership and changes, obviously, how can we follow whats happening and also know what is friendly or not territory once the test starts?
Lots and lots of scouting I assume. I decided to take a look at the API to see if Duality has an API, but unfortunately it doesn't look like it does, otherwise some crafty person could probably make an auto-updated map of the battlezone. |

Agent Unknown
Night Theifs incendia equus
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Posted - 2015.06.16 12:54:05 -
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Lisselle Rotsuda wrote:Also... as Dotlan won't show the sov ownership and changes, obviously, how can we follow whats happening and also know what is friendly or not territory once the test starts?
There's a sov dashboard that will be available on Duality that tells you everything you need to know. There's a couple devblogs detailing that.
As far as I know, Duality doesn't expose API data like Singularity does, but that could change if CCP wants developers to start making changes to their apps (like dotlan). |

Lauresh Thellere
Discipuli Diaboli Test Alliance Please Ignore
50
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Posted - 2015.06.16 15:21:07 -
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Hi Fozzie can I please get magicked into Affirmative. |

SilverBack Rotineque
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.06.16 15:45:37 -
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7o,
Having trouble logging into Duality. I followed all the instructions and can get the client open (http://imgur.com/s8Kiw65). I type in my login information and the character screen doesn't pop up. I noticed that after typing in my login information, a bar that says checking status (http://imgur.com/LhtI2hS) pops up next to the login info where it usually says the server, status, and number of players, but it never goes to the character screen. I wait for a bit, then click login again and this (http://imgur.com/My1bA1W) pops up telling me I need to close and restart the client. I have tried clearing my settings, cache, starting from the launcher, deleting the folder and reinstalling Duality, nothing has worked. Is there anything else I can do to get logged in?
Thanks, Silverback |

SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.06.16 16:58:09 -
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I must admit I'm not a fan of how the market is. Constantly having alliance tournament ship, faction fit pirate battleships and 100 ISK triage carriers dropping on me left and right doesn't exactly feel realistic. Toss in everyone rocking high grade pirate implants...
*sigh*
No way to curb it down a bit before the thing starts?
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kiu Nakamura
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.06.16 17:09:06 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Constantly having alliance tournament ship, faction fit pirate battleships and 100 ISK triage carriers dropping on me left and right doesn't exactly feel realistic. No way to curb it down a bit before the thing starts?
I think this just levels the playing field a bit. Even if it were real ISK market values, entities like BL could still do the same thing (as they likely have almost unlimited funds) while all the younger alliances participating in the event don't have a huge wallet to begin with.
You can already see how people throw their Titans on field - which should be a very limited resource - not caring about losses because they got enough of them.
A proper test would have been, remove all assets from everyone, give every player x amount of isk, set all prices to a fixed value, disable isk generation (insurance, bounties, etc) and get everyone started.
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Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.16 17:11:09 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:I must admit I'm not a fan of how the market is. Constantly having alliance tournament ship, faction fit pirate battleships and 100 ISK triage carriers dropping on me left and right doesn't exactly feel realistic. Toss in everyone rocking high grade pirate implants...
*sigh*
No way to curb it down a bit before the thing starts?
IDK but it feels pretty normal for PL fleets. We are having to downgrade our fits compared to main server and it makes me feal like a scrub |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
609

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Posted - 2015.06.16 17:11:50 -
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SilverBack Rotineque wrote:7o,
Having trouble logging into Duality. I followed all the instructions and can get the client open (http://imgur.com/s8Kiw65). I type in my login information and the character screen doesn't pop up. I noticed that after typing in my login information, a bar that says checking status (http://imgur.com/LhtI2hS) pops up next to the login info where it usually says the server, status, and number of players, but it never goes to the character screen. I wait for a bit, then click login again and this (http://imgur.com/My1bA1W) pops up telling me I need to close and restart the client. I have tried clearing my settings, cache, starting from the launcher, deleting the folder and reinstalling Duality, nothing has worked. Is there anything else I can do to get logged in?
Thanks, Silverback Thanks for reporting this Silverback,
Unfortunately I'm not sure what to suggest as you seem to tried all the normal options for troubleshooting such an issue. Id ask you to make sure you are manually deleting the relevant cache files from your appdata folder (Normally found here: C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE)
If this still does not work, please use CTRL+ALT+M to bring up the engine tools window, select log viewer and save the current logs. Then go to our online bug reporting tool (https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports) and report a bug, providing as much information as you can and attaching that log file.
Hope this helps!
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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