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Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp Chao3 Alliance
278
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Posted - 2015.08.01 06:35:18 -
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UAxDEATH wrote: Solution: reduction of beacons (nodes) , to about 1-3 per system, which are located next to a contested structure. ... Solution: a new type of status - defended. If the nodes are not being captured by any attackers during contested campaign for a period of time dependent of defence index, then structures change from contested to defended.
Yes to reducing the number of nodes if they are left uncontested. No to regroup them next to a contested structure. ... Yes, even have them automatically revert to the defender if left untouched for a while.
UAxDEATH wrote: Solution: reduce the amount of tactics that create invulnerable situations, which are currently based on shipGÇÖs speed. Entosis module should reduce speed dramatically, up to 0 m/s.
Yes, speed reduction is a must for entosis ships, and make sure entosis forces a value commitment to the action, and not be done with worthless hulls (like the ridiculousness of rookie cyno ships).
UAxDEATH wrote: Solution: introduction of a new sov window, similar to watchlist, that displays information about structures/nodes that are being defended or attacked using entosis module, with pilot's nickname, solar system, structure id and progress.
Absolutely not. Local intel/activity and scouting must be a thing and not being spoon-fed information.
UAxDEATH wrote: Solution: remove vulnerability from such structures at the the end of the vulnerability period, but allow owners to entosis structure back up. If structure was partially attacked, it should be clearly visible.
Makes sense.
UAxDEATH wrote: Solution: allow executor corporations to transfer remotely structures via listed sov structures context menu, similar in the way it is now with the customs offices.
+1
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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Felicia D'Arch
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.08.01 06:41:18 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Tappits wrote:UAxDEATH wrote:Alliances signed petition
- Alexander Leros, leader Hard Alliance
- Fafer, leader Tr0pa de elite., curator Brothers of Tangra
- Frosch Koenig, leader Synergy of Steel
- Garst Tyrell, leader Triumvirate.
- I Sam, leader Solar Fleet
- Lorianna Lee, leader Dream Fleet
- NullParseException, leader Soviet-Union
- titanokiller, leader Infinity Space.
- tru drksniper, leader Advent of Fate
- UAxDEATH, leader Legion of xXDEATHXx
- Unionn, leader The Afterlife.
- Redwyne Vyruk, manager of BOT and manager of XWX Shadow_of_xXDEATHXx
What wars have any of these people done with the new sov system that lets them make informed ideas on how to fix a sov system thatGÇÖs just over two weeks old that will affect every single person in null sec? What has any one done in the new sov system other than get some unused systems attacked? None of these people speak for me. None whatsoever. Furthermore, Garst Tyrell has signed this RMT rental whine without any kind of mandate from the alliance, and he is acting here as a single player, and as such his personal opinions in no way represent the official stance of Triumvirate alliance.
...Didn't you guys have like 350 nodes to contest just the other day? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16781
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Posted - 2015.08.01 06:51:16 -
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Emma Kado wrote:"It Is Not the Strongest of the Species that Survives But the Most Adaptable to change" - Charles Darwin.
Any change to any system within EVE will come with those who win from the changes and those who will lose from the changes. I would like to point out that all the signatories to this post are the powers of old, those who adapted to the dominion sov system and built their empires using the tactics and strategies that worked for that system and those times. They are obviously the ones losing out on the new system, but does that make fozziesov a bad system?
I would ike to offer a counter perspective as a new alliance taking sov in nullsec for the first time.
We (The CORVOS) were determined that we would not become a part of a coalition when we made the move to sov null. Many of our leadership had been involved in sov before but we wanted to own our space in our own right. Ours to hold or lose on our own merits. We made some allies, but no supercoalitions with blues for 30 jumps. So far we have been able to hold off much larger groups with better ship comps and numerical advantage by adapting to fozziesov. Small teams (2-3 pilots) have been able to effectivley stop the enemy gaining any control whatsoever. sure we havent won every fight but we have been able to maintain our sov without simply being forced to face the enemy head on. We can fight hit and run gurella style, deny the enemy pilots their F1 pressing sessions while giving our own pilots invaluable small gang experince as we destory entosis ships and their escorts. Fozziesov has allowed us, as well as many other smaller independant groups to compete in the sov game.
Of course it is no wonder the empires of olde are unhappy, they lose out on this. Their weaknesses of old are now gaping holes in their battle plans. Their pilots and FCs will need to change if their alliances are to be able to survive.
No longer are fights decided on one single massive engagement. Individual pilot skill matters. A small team of commited and experienced pilots can hold off or at least delay a larger force. Big F1 pressing fests are not what every player wants. I want to be able to, mid fight, take command of a small detachment of a larger fleet and hit enemy positions and eliminate enemy entosis ships and their escorts.
If you cannot adapt to the new system you will die. And those who can adapt and survive will take your place at the top of the food chain. You will not be able to have massive afk empires that noone can ever threaten.
Welcome to fozziesov boys.
This isnt to say its perfect. UAXDeath does make some good points, such as not having to clean up uncontested nodes. But with CCPs new release cycle they will be able to monitor and change the system as it needs. But the system as a whole is great, if the powers of old are complaining its an indication that fozziesov is working.
And to CCP: Keep up the good work.
Well said and bravo to your alliance, good sir
Keep on Doing It Right.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5146
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Posted - 2015.08.01 07:01:34 -
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Felicia D'Arch wrote:...Didn't you guys have like 350 nodes to contest just the other day? ... or they could have just prevented the reinforcement in the first place and have 0 nodes to deal with.
And if they couldn't be bothered to do that, then why would they bother to deal with the nodes!
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Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
1609
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Posted - 2015.08.01 08:38:47 -
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Literally a rogues gallery of RMT. |
Virus ll
Death Magnetic. Legion of xXDEATHXx
0
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Posted - 2015.08.01 09:00:02 -
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+1 thoughtful and true post!!! |
Nituspar
Shiva Nulli Secunda
25
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Posted - 2015.08.01 09:15:07 -
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Shonion wrote:Nituspar wrote:As an FC that's currently abusing all of these mechanics to our advantage, I fully agree with the need for all these changes and points that Uaxdeath brings up.
Being able to set entire regions on fire and making defenders have to deal with thousands of nodes due to 20-50 trollceptors sent from several regions away, without any intention or commitment to taking the sov we're attacking, is horrible gameplay for everyone involved. It just happens to be 5-10 times more horrible for the defender than it is for the attacker.
The system is currently extremely broken, and the current consensus between a lot of groups seems to be that the best way to deal with Fozziesov in its current state is to not care about it at all. You wouldn't be able to do that if they live there. Its works as intend. You can say its not sweet, but still work as planned from my view. Just try to entosis some CFC systems where ppl live around, you will see the difference comparing with the south rus empty space.
Occupancy bonuses are something I've always been advocating for, just beacuse that's a facet of the current system doesn't mean the system itself isn't utterly flawed and designed for one side of any sov conflict to bore the other one to tears without any kind of meaningful fleet engagements ever happening, which is honestly the biggest problem with Fozziesov's design.
There's also quite a difference between having decent defensive bonuses tied to occupancy and using your space, and any systems you don't mine or rat in for a few weeks to be able to be burned down by a handful of people in trollceptors at almost any given time. |
Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
590
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Posted - 2015.08.01 09:31:52 -
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Can you please rationalise why proper discussion of EVE is done better on a 3rd party site rather than the official General Discussion forum?
You can't.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
69
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Posted - 2015.08.01 09:41:22 -
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Oh look, another nullsec group who enjoys telling everyone to HTFU when change happens to highsec and lowsec.
And now a balanced -BALANCED- nullsec change occurs and?
Out come the giant alligator tears and cries of 'this sucks'. This is AIDS. This is ruining game play.
No, it's made it so groups like yours can't own HUNDREDS of nullsec systems that sit empty and unused. CCP wants you to defend your land. Can't? Figure out how. Still can't? Your problem.
HTFU. Only keep what you can defend.
Adapt or leave null. Simple as that. |
Konrad Kane
136
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Posted - 2015.08.01 09:49:55 -
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I love the fact rental alliances have signed this. |
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
981
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Posted - 2015.08.01 10:42:21 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:Slight alteration:
Make entosis link reduce speed to under 100m/s for ALL ships. Can you please justify gimping "legit" combat fits with entosis link even when it is only specific denying fits that is the problem?
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
5
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Posted - 2015.08.01 11:05:48 -
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Wow claim discrimination against null sec. That joke right?
What needs to change here is way of thinking. They need to stop claiming sov on those systems that they dont use. This will drastically reduce the entosing. Example the big populated systems in CFC have had no attempt to entosis(besides some obvious attempt to get you to fight). You wonder why? Cos they are heavelly populated. If you look at the systems that are been attacked, they are systems that have either no people or very few people in it. So example CFC needs to stop claiming those systems they dont use and therefore cant defend cos of the absurd amount of timers. This will cause much much less entosis timers. Mittani tried to counter this not by releasing systems but instead they tried to fill them up with renters. It has not worked. The new sov system was created to give greater chance for smaller entities to gain space and force the large ones to realease those systems they dont really use.
Stop blaiming fozzy sov or ships or other mechanics for your inability to hold a system which you obviously cant defend cos its stretches you alliance activities(entosis defence) way too much. Pull back and release those system for other entities the same way that the new sov was meant to be utilised. Dont and suffer the consequences!
Prior this, I want to ask how many big fight happened in the last year? Not much cos most of these entitties did not really fight each other. One coult speculate cos they got some kind of agreement and the blue donut was born. The big fight will happen no matter what. I seriosly think it will cause a lot more animosity cos now you will have to relase systems you cant really control. Now who gets those systems and what will they do with them? Very interesting stuff.
Big battle will certainly happen when important systems will be contested. Sov is still new and everyone is learnign from mistakes and succescess of others and themselves. Everyone is watching. |
Baki Yuku
Boob Heads Black Legion.
34
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Posted - 2015.08.01 11:53:53 -
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Eli Stan wrote:
Your goal should be preventing anything from being reinforced in the first place. If you cannot do that, you do not effectively hold Sov of that system and you deserve to lose it, or get burned out trying to win the capture events. You should stop fighting over those systems you can't hold on to. Getting burned out is your punishment for trying to operate in the Dominion Sov paradigm.
Dunno what dream you are dreaming but keep dreaming while you dream that dream my alliance is holding an entire region and we have nowhere near enough dudes to be active in every system. Yet outside of "The Imperium", NC. & PL you cannot take it from us. Sure as hell you can RF some systems and even take some but can you actually life there? No you cannot we'd probably even let your ****** alliance number 1209 take a station wait for you to get settled and once you do we'd crush you with a hammer. The new sov system does not change the fact that power is power. Just because you can take sov does not mean it is viable. The mare presence of a superior capital and super capital force is more than enough to keep full control of a region.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
2150
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Posted - 2015.08.01 12:06:06 -
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Throwing the gold apple in, "You don't use it for mining and ratting, so you are not using it and deserve to lose it. This makes it easy for small alliances to get some space," seems to be the general counter argument.
1) Said many times, there is more than those two ways to use systems. 2) Easy into space, easy out. These systems are honey traps and make delicious snacks for the huge estabilished alliances to farm and feed upon.
This is not some amazing equality mechanics, it is annoying for defenders who are griefed and it is devastatingly crushing for the naive.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Jeanne Tivianne
100
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Posted - 2015.08.01 12:24:12 -
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*Straps into her seat and slaps a helmet on, popcorn in hand*
Oh ho ho, this thread is going places, and I am ready for the ride. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
493
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Posted - 2015.08.01 12:28:56 -
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Jeeez, learn 2 think, it not too hard to get the solution: From Rental to Extortion... and just get a bigger coalition than your neighbour > problem solved
"Relativity equals time plus momentum: if it can be erased by a single click on a button, would it be worth spending your time?"
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16785
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Posted - 2015.08.01 12:31:29 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Jeeez, learn 2 think, it not too hard to get the solution: From Rental to Extortion... and just get a bigger coalition than your neighbour > problem solved
That would require being able to make credible threats.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Glasgow Dunlop
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
276
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Posted - 2015.08.01 12:37:15 -
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1) where is popcorn?
2) do you have salted caramel popcorn?
3) I <3 new sov.
@glasgowdunlop #tweetfleet
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Glasgow / Edinbvrgh Meet Organiser
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Baki Yuku
Boob Heads Black Legion.
34
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Posted - 2015.08.01 12:46:51 -
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Glasgow Dunlop wrote: 3) I <3 new sov.
Because you don't care about it thats why you love it. For people who don't care about it and all they care about is griefing potential the new system sure is amazing no denying that. Now if that makes a good system thats a different question entirely. |
Silvia Heart
Black Aces I N F A M O U S
1
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Posted - 2015.08.01 12:50:26 -
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Shonion wrote:It is working as intend.
There are no sov wars ongoing in EVE or just some small scale local fights for not much important systems or taking space undefended. Almost 3 weeks spent in the new system, and its visilbe, that if you not live in your space, your defense multiplier will be close to 1 and you can easily lost the system. You shouldn't own regions without manpower and ppl living out there. Thats the point.
As someone already mentioned earlier, the new system prefer the preventing defense, so if you live there, your defens multiplier is high then troll ceptors will need 60 mins for reinforce anything in a 3 hour window and your primary interest to defend yous space preventively, so kill that damn ceptor.
Well if you not live there, you deserve to lose that space... the old style renter empires are over. Goons already adapting instead of typing wall of text on forum.
This is funny coming from someone who has no sov and does nothing but fly troll ceptors. We've tried fighting nulli, all we've found is they run away even faster then darkeshi.
I have nothing really against the idea of fozzie sov but its just so broken and lopsided.
My suggestions for fixing it (everyone who has sov has some). -Hard cap the speed of etosis ships, T1 1000m/s T2 1500m/s -If no nodes are being attacked the defender gets 5% back ever hour.
Done fixed, maybe then we'll get some fights out of this joke instead of experiencing world of cowards. |
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Erick Asmock
Patriotic Tendencies Executive Outcomes
3
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Posted - 2015.08.01 12:56:02 -
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I love FozzieSOV!
It's so good we should allow it to affect all stations and structures in all of New Eden. At the very minimum LS and NPC NS....
I mean it's great right? Everyone should be given the opportunity to love FozzieSOV in game by promulgating it everywhere.
In all seriousness...it's boring. FozzieSOV is boring to defend and it is boring to attack.
Fozzie (and his team) have replaced one type of grind with a more horrible type of grind.
CCP has allowed the rise of a juvenile level of play with FozzieSOV that in the end will cause major power blocks to become bigger and stronger.
CCP continues to ignore and understand the human condition and how it affects the sandbox. Making Game Mechanics that run counter to that tide only destroy a game.
The best quote I have heard from a member of an entosis fleet, "This is worse than mining"
That said...I think everyone should be given the opportunity to "Adapt" to a horrible and boring mechanic.
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Vol Arm'OOO
Bagel and Lox
701
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Posted - 2015.08.01 12:58:47 -
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IMO fozziesov is awful and basically undercuts alot of what was unique to eve. It shouldnt have been implemented and it should be rolled back.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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TiMeZeRo225
Bulls and Cows Red Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.08.01 13:18:34 -
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To those who say that "you should not claim more than you can actually occupy" - i can hardly see any changes regarding the number of sov holding alliances after the fozziesov. In other words - the sov change was intended to make people actually go and capture 0.0 space, but someone had forgotten that it's actually held by big nullsec alliances that will protect it. And it actually does't matter if someone will claim some god forgotten system anywhere in space - those guys won't be able to live there cause the same big sov holding alliance will sit in it 24\7 and\or just pop any incoming ships. I think the correct term is "power projection". That's why we have what we have, and such changes as fozziesov will never change it.
CCP has to understand 1 simple thing - people come to 0.0 for blob warfare, so the only thing they have to change is to create something worthy to fight for. Currenly, sov itself brings no such benefits (r64 moons, for example, are not sov-dependent at all).
So i would like to support the OP and ask CCP to respect the hours that nullsec players had spent capturing all that they have and stop that crap with entosis-inties. (been there, done that. 20 minutes to RF a station in a lone intie ! really ?) At least make the same as siege mechanics (speed 0, PG \ CPU depentent, BC \ BS size, etc etc).
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
12020
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Posted - 2015.08.01 13:27:59 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Zappity wrote:It seems to be promoting skirmishes but not battles. I would be concerned about the missing half of the equation if I was CCP. Battles will happen when people stop trolling and make a serious push at actually capturing a new area of space. Of course battles don't happen if all you are doing is trolling around the edges of someone's sov.
So it takes "some getting serious". If so that demonstrates the flawed base of this system. I know everyone hated DominonSov, I didn't like it either, but in that system and the "POS SPAM" system before if, you HAD to come in "serious" in the 1st place if you wanted to do anything with sov.
The 'focus' of this sov system is off, and one of the side effects is that it does produce boring cat and mouse skirmishes rather than encouraging people to actually fight.. This gives big groups the ability to wear smaller groups down even easier than in dominion Sov, already I'm finding it harder and harder to join up with a fleet because I kow it's going to be a hour or two of chasing/killing ceptors and fighting Slippery pete Tengus or hit and run "but not serious about sov" Tornado or T3D gangs.
It's just not fun at all. I'm amazed at how Fozzie group could take something fairly grindy and boring (dominion sov and it's structure grinding) and make it MORE boring (mininglaserSov).
Fozzie said in an interview that it was between this system and a kind of "sovless Sov". From where I'm sitting, they chose wrong, sovless sov might have been way better than this current experience, CCP "iterating" on this system will simply be the act of polishing a turd. |
Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
983
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Posted - 2015.08.01 13:51:50 -
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Baki Yuku wrote:Dunno what dream you are dreaming but keep dreaming while you dream that dream my alliance is holding an entire region and we have nowhere near enough dudes to be active in every system. Yet outside of "The Imperium", NC. & PL you cannot take it from us. Sure as hell you can RF some systems and even take some but can you actually life there? No you cannot we'd probably even let your ****** alliance number 1209 take a station wait for you to get settled and once you do we'd crush you with a hammer. The new sov system does not change the fact that power is power. Just because you can take sov does not mean it is viable. The mare presence of a superior capital and super capital force is more than enough to keep full control of a region. Sure enough, but why? Ofc you can keep doing what you are doing, but burnout will be real.
That's not to say that current system don't have to be tweaked, but gotta face what we have right now.
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Escobar Slim III
YOLOSWAGHASHTAGDOLLARBILLZSWIMMINGPOOLICECREAMS
139
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Posted - 2015.08.01 13:58:21 -
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I personally believe that some nullsecs are unable to do fozzie sov because some out there in our game don't even have maps and I believe that our education in the new system like such as in Scadling Pass and the Thrium Reach and everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should practice sov when the lowsec and pvp comes to take it, our education over here in the nullsecs should help the nulls., and should help nullsecs understand the need of small fight and not big and should help the future and the Rus renter allices, so we will be able to build up our future for our children play new eve's fozzie sov and make greater battle but smaller.
this is the future where no more big renter blib. and no crying change it and threats not welcomed at all said. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
2151
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Posted - 2015.08.01 14:30:48 -
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Baki Yuku wrote:Glasgow Dunlop wrote: 3) I <3 new sov.
Because you don't care about it thats why you love it. For people who don't care about it and all they care about is griefing potential the new system sure is amazing no denying that. Now if that makes a good system thats a different question entirely. For emphasis. I think this is the motive behind most of the noise supporting Fozzie SOV.
P.S. Glasgow, learn to ASCII. GÖÑ
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
28
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Posted - 2015.08.01 14:54:07 -
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i have nothing to do with sov living in lowsec but you have my axe and my merry band of men |
PromisedOne
Immortals of New Eden DARKNESS.
0
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Posted - 2015.08.01 15:16:18 -
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As a casual pvper I have to say this last month has been the absolute crap experience since the old POS spam days. I would rather have Dominion sov back over this turd. Fozzie has is essence head shotted all of null sec in one patch. Went from finding gangs of roaming T3 cruisers, BCs, and other things in enemy space to only finding interceptors galore and T3 destroyers. All the "good fights" have died out. I think we need to force all the CCP employees to join a new alliance out here in null sec and troll ceptor the **** out of them. |
Hinamori Tsesuda
13th Reserve Squadron
0
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Posted - 2015.08.01 15:27:04 -
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I can understand that people don't like change and that those notifications popping up all the time might be annoying, but hey were you actually using those systems?
Dominion was stagnant, tedious and mostly just a pain. You'd have a target or two, reinforce it or them, wait and then blap it. All very nice if you like reading or have a show you can watch. Not much difference between taking SOV, Stations, POSes or POCOs...
Then comes fozziesov... (Still not finished as far as I can see) Yeah! It needs tweaking, but hey its CCP! Its a race and exausting, but having sov isn't suposed to be "We don't use the system, but cyno in the CAPS!" Hey, if you actually used the system and it is under attack, you would know "who, what and where" Also... Wait for it... It's you SOV, you defend it!
Apologies for ranting slightly, but contiuing on....
Most of the points by OP are mostly mewling that the safety of Dominion SOV is no longer there. They can no longer "sell or buy" systems. Oh, and renters can nab the sov... if they so please, after all its them using not you...
To conclude, I believe that fozziesov is here to stay, though tweaked.
Yours, rambling slightly Anmia Ambraelle |
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