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Guys honestly don't even give Tippia a response or ammo, is sole purpose on these forums is to **** people off. The more you respond the more you just play into his hands.

*waiting for witty Tippia retort.....

Well, only two posts (now three) - I am a lurker...

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Well after doing a little research on this poster (Verstal), I don't think they have ever really put much time into EVE, if any at all. Made an account in 07, just returned a week ago. In an NPC corp for years untouched. No standings. Even is linking this thread in bio. Either a total troll (post with your main?), or has been playing something like WoW or LOL all these years and is now here to save us from certain destruction (along with 3mil ragequitters from WoW over flying mounts). I call BS.

Really, OP, you should spend some time playing EVE before making sweeping judgements and wanting EVE to entirely change for you. If your friends from the other game are not interested, maybe it's just that you don't really know how to answer them yet nor know how to guide them into actually experiencing the game as it should be experienced; as you have not really done so yourself. Your game changing ideas are just bad, flat out bad, and maybe you would realize that if you spent time in the game, yourself.

Source? Or are you just making numbers up.... again?

Your idea of FtP would almost have to allow that kind of freedom, an with it wold come a flood of abuse.
I am not the one wanting exploits or whatever....but you are trying to create such an exploit.

I love my sandbox game, and think your idea is garbage...EvE is unique and it is definitely NOT for everyone.

And yeah the other questions your dodging i would love to see you try and answer them.
Right now your credibility is 0, and your understanding of EvE is 0.

But .... but .... but he is a super awesome "Programmer - Artist - Designer - Producer" that has trained other game designers for 15+ years. He told us multiple times how mutch experiance he has and how awesome he is. LISTEN TO HIM! Just look at how skillfull he dodged the questions that poke holes in his ideas and how awesome he mutes people that use solid arguments, causality and logic to deconstruct his visions that will save us all.



Dont bother asking concrete questions. He will ether mute you or come up with a other spontanious and totaly awesome idea that will save EvE once and for all ... by killing it.

This thead should be locked. OP constantly changes topic, randomly mutes people that "do not see the light" and uses this thread to profile himself as the goodfather of game designing. Since im probably getting muted, im out. bb

Open rookie chat and help some new players learn the game? Give it an hour. People that want to learn that are trying to learn are in the process of learning right now. I am sure 1000+ people in rookie chat.

if eve went f2p i would quit, so would my alts which pay subscriptions and i also buy plex for real money. so what is more important, players who stay in the game long term or people like your friends who will play for a few months and move onto some other flavour of the month f2p mmo?

The topic is -- Would it be possible for CCP to make Eve free to play?

Have you contributed any ideas, I cant remember.

So you are saying that a system that has changed a lot over 12 years on how accounts are managed that if it changes in anyway you are going to quit?

You are saying that no system that someone can express in words that could allow new player more time to fall in love with the game is not possible?

I have no ego about the ideas I wrote down I come up a ton of bad ideas all the time.

Are you telling me that you cant think of one thing that could help new players not run away from Eve like its a burning building?

Not one idea. At least try if not go help someone with your knowledge in Rookie Chat, take a new player under your wing, be a good human help your fellow man in a video game or better yet go do it in the real world.

I go into great detail how I softened my stance, and why. If you have constructive feedback and how to keep more the .1% of new player past 3 months then lets hear it or break down each idea on the front page and give an alternative.

The topic is -- Would it be possible for CCP to make Eve free to play?

you seem to have a very limited understanding of EVE and what has happened in the last few years.
this is a worry to hear you are helping new people and perhaps this is one of the reasons new bros are not sticking.
i know if i was new and i happened to be lucky enough to get help from someone like you who has this attitude that you have the answers to everything and refuse point blank to answer simple questions about statements you've made claiming all sorts of nonsense. i'm sure it wouldn't be long before i'd be thinking people in this game are full of shite.
rookie help channel should be moderated in some way. perhaps CCP should vet the vets that want to help and give them a different colour name in the channel letting rookies know this guy has been approved to help me.
you wanted constructive feed back. there ya go

from what i've seen here so far, you should not be helping anyone. you could do with some help yourself.

Its closer to 26 years I started pretty young. :-) I am sure you helped a lot of people today learn Eve so they will get excited about making the commitment to sending a few dollars to CCP so that the servers and sandbox will open to all for another 10 years. If not, please do your part and go help someone.

The topic is -- Would it be possible for CCP to make Eve free to play?

Have you contributed any ideas, I cant remember.

You could say that its my turn to give back to the community. I appreciate your thoughts and contribution to this thread.

I play eve because i like the fact it roots out the stereotypical players who play free to play games, the people who dont want to pay for a game so they dont take it seriously, if it went f2p it would attract the type of people i do not like in the gaming world. subscription model games are for serious gamers, f2p are fisher-price gamers.

Yes I like that about Eve as well the brutality was my favorite part for years, do you think Eve is getting enough new players?

Are you doing the same with every other response you're getting?

so far i'm seeing a huge NO (for very good reason) to your question.

free to play = NO!

take it on the chin and move along.

Yes I like that about Eve as well the brutality was my favorite part for years, do you think Eve is getting enough new players?

Wow. 26 years and your still more naive than I was on my first day.

Have I help new players into this game? Well I intruduced firends to EvE. And contrary to your game designer friends, they are still playing and paying to this day.

Your topic is a question. The question has bin answered multiple times. The answer was NO. So unless you ask a question and ignore all answers that are not the answer you wanted to hear, this thread can be closed now.

I am sorry sir I dont understand and lost the concept your are trying to express that can help new players learn Eve.

new players? do i really care if the game is getting enough new players, no i dont because i leave my work at 5pm where i have worked for 8 hours to get my company new customers so id rather drop rattlesnakes on some poor cruiser fleet than worry if ccp marketing department are doing their job properly.

so as long as i have daily targets to shoot at i couldnt really care because i pay a subscription to have fun not run a 2nd job for free

Few years ago, I would dismiss OP's ideas as silly and for reasons already described in this thread. But today I see ever-increasing PLEX prices and numbers of active players steadily falling (I am also rather convinced that the number of subscribed accounts hasn't been so low ever since I started playing in 2011, but CCP is no longer willing to give us that information, and after they fired their Ph.D. economist we know less about their business results than ever) and it makes me wary about the future of the game. While I'm still hoping that EVE won't die, some changes are necessary (and I don't mean things that Fozzie is usually responsible for, since most new players don't care about sov or rebalancing changes).

Hopefully most people here will agree with me on these two points:
1) EVE needs new players desperately or it will face a slow death.
2) Subscription-model MMORPGs are outdated and won't attract new audiences.

Therefore it seems necessary for CCP to change subscription model. Turning EVE into a F2P may have its disadvantages, but most of them should have a way to remedy them. Allowing only one F2P account per player, changing trial accounts so their subscription never runs out or giving some limits to F2P accounts (for example, capping their SP/hour to 1800 or less) are some of the ways that could be worth considering.
But I would be satisfied if CCP would just lower subscription and PLEX prices (which is unlikely since with rising PLEX prices, more people are likely to use their credit card to pay their sub instead of their hard-earned ISK). However, if nothing of the above happens, I give EVE maybe 3 more years before CCP decides to shut down TQ for good.

Therefore it seems necessary for CCP to change subscription model. Turning EVE into a F2P may have its disadvantages, but most of them should have a way to remedy them.

Few years ago, I would dismiss OP's ideas as silly and for reasons already described in this thread. But today I see ever-increasing PLEX prices and numbers of active players steadily falling (I am also rather convinced that the number of subscribed accounts hasn't been so low ever since I started playing in 2011, but CCP is no longer willing to give us that information, and after they fired their Ph.D. economist we know less about their business results than ever) and it makes me wary about the future of the game. While I'm still hoping that EVE won't die, some changes are necessary (and I don't mean things that Fozzie is usually responsible for, since most new players don't care about sov or rebalancing changes).

Hopefully most people here will agree with me on these two points:
1) EVE needs new players desperately or it will face a slow death.
2) Subscription-model MMORPGs are outdated and won't attract new audiences.

Therefore it seems necessary for CCP to change subscription model. Turning EVE into a F2P may have its disadvantages, but most of them should have a way to remedy them. Allowing only one F2P account per player, changing trial accounts so their subscription never runs out or giving some limits to F2P accounts (for example, capping their SP/hour to 1800 or less) are some of the ways that could be worth considering.
But I would be satisfied if CCP would just lower subscription and PLEX prices (which is unlikely since with rising PLEX prices, more people are likely to use their credit card to pay their sub instead of their hard-earned ISK). However, if nothing of the above happens, I give EVE maybe 3 more years before CCP decides to shut down TQ for good.

if eve went f2p i would quit, so would my alts which pay subscriptions and i also buy plex for real money. so what is more important, players who stay in the game long term or people like your friends who will play for a few months and move onto some other flavour of the month f2p mmo?

I agree on both points!

I don't think CCP has 3 years, they borrowed money payed it back and went dark, the new products which cannibalize Eve wont make money they will maybe if they are lucky get someone excited enough to buy them. They make about 12-13 mil a year in profit which isn't enough to keep the staff they have or grow at all.

I have stated this a few different times but the WOD 100m disaster left CCP at 10% Hull 0% Armor they are on fire, and this fire is pretty because its driven by new tech that everyone turns off because they zoom the ships out as soon as they can to avoid getting motion sickness from every gate jump with no option to speed it up or slow it down or turn it off.

Yes CCP they understand human perceptions to the point that the golden path to a VR Facebook buyout is all but certain.

I wish CCP was doing a better job I really do but I know better.

Real question is if the large Swiss banking firm will loan CCP money if they do try to go to a free to play models since they have been using sub money to stock the shelves with content have been for years.

I am trying to help CCP survive even themselves, I love Eve that much, I really do.

I agree on both points!

I don't think CCP has 3 years, they borrowed money payed it back and went dark, the new products which cannibalize Eve wont make money they will maybe if they are lucky get someone excited enough to buy them. They make about 12-13 mil a year in profit which isn't enough to keep the staff they have or grow at all.

I have stated this a few different times but the WOD 100m disaster left CCP at 10% Hull 0% Armor they are on fire, and this fire is pretty because its driven by new tech that everyone turns off because they zoom the ships out as soon as they can to avoid getting motion sickness from every gate jump with no option to speed it up or slow it down or turn it off.

Yes CCP they understand human perceptions to the point that the golden path to a VR Facebook buyout is all but certain.

I wish CCP was doing a better job I really do but I know better.

Real question is if the large Swiss banking firm will loan CCP money if they do try to go to a free to play models since they have been using sub money to stock the shelves with content have been for years.

I am trying to help CCP survive even themselves, I love Eve that much, I really do.