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Alystra Swift
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Posted - 2007.04.08 17:05:00 -
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Well done Joerd.
You asked for it, here is my take on the new one. :)
Your statements are in bold here. My suggetions are after each one.
Sorry if some have already been pointed out, too lazy to read all the suggestions after your post.
Astrometric Triangulation reduces the scan deviation of your probes, making them more accurate
Astrometric Pinpointing increases the strength of your probes, making them more likely to find something in the first place
You have these flipped.
- Scan Probe Launcher I, with a base analysis time of 600s (10 minutes)
Later you use SPL 1, might be a good idea to add "(SPL 1)" after the name here so it doesn't confuse people.
Three of the four races have a T1 frigate with the same bonus as Covert Ops ships, but at 5% per level rather than 10%. This isn't ideal, but it's much easier to train Frigate V than Covert Ops V. There is no Amarr ship in this role though (due to the lack of a 6th frigate), so if you're Amarr, it's either Covert Ops or crosstrain to another race for this bonus.
You may want to add the fact that to better the scan time of the T1 frig with a cov ops ship you need cov ops skill at 3.
- One Multispectral Probe for every system you want to explore
And extras for sanity checks between sets of quest probes.
Multispectral Probes are used to do the initial analysis of a system. They'll tell you, with 100% accuracy, what there is to find in the system (if anything)
May want to rephrase this to indicate they are qualitative (just show the sigs that are in the system) not quantitative (do not show how many of each are in the system).
Using Multispectral Probes
You may want to include that multi's will cover the entire system no matter where you place them.
If you think a system's taking too long, then by all means go elsewhere, but the site is there to find, somewhere. If it's hard to find it's generally also very valuable/hard, so it's up to you whether or not to keep trying.
Difficulty in finding a site does not equate to value from loot in the case of magnetometric and radar sites. Gravimetric sites do have better amounts/types of ore in them if they are harder to find.
Signal Strength can tell you a lot, if you know what you're looking for. For example, an exceptionally low number probably suggests that you've found the wrong type of site.
This would only be true if you were not looking for a site like a mag/radar/grav... all of these sites can have "exceptionally low" signal strengths in the result, they can also have rather high ones too.
Also, it would be nice if you include the fact that the sig str you see in the result is not the actual signal strength of the site itself.
Types Of Site
May want to include the ore in mining sites does not respawn at downtime.
Cans in arc/sal and hack sites can be info'd to see what mod you need to use on them.
Can find the journal entry for escalations in the expeditions tab.
Warping out of an expedition step without finishing it will end the expedition.
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.04.09 12:26:00 -
[332]
Cheers Alystra :D Will integrate all of that when I sort out the final version :)
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Drizden D'Urden
Minmatar
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.09 18:52:00 -
[333]
So just to confirm, signatures are located between 1 AU and 4 AU of a planet only? There will not be signatures out in space between planets? Thanks!
Awesome guide, keep up the good work :)
Drizden D'Urden member of Polaris Project |
Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.04.11 16:32:00 -
[334]
All signs point to "yes"
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Sir Scorpion
Caldari
Black Banners
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Posted - 2007.04.13 05:26:00 -
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any got a grav 0.05 yet? i got in 0.0 and have been lookin for that dor ever prolly need better support skills, btw how do u know if the signal is gravmatci or radar?
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.14 16:49:00 -
[336]
i have read and digested :)
just a quick couple of questions
Skills btw (atm) astrometrics lvl4 astro pinpointing lvl2 astro triangulation lvl2 covert ops lvl3 signal aquisition lvl2 (lvl3 in 20 hrs) 2 grav rigs fitted
i have done the b/m thing so the middle planets are covered 2 planets on outer rings so covered
we got a grav sig my corp mate got a result under 400k warped to that point did a sift probe scan and it came up neg no matter how many times he tried question is this usual ????
also i had a hit in a system last nite but could do nothing about it so this morning went back out did the multi scan and got nothing found is this also usual ????
cheers in advance Johny
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.14 16:55:00 -
[337]
also is there any way os showing what your coverage of a system is
cheers Johny
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.14 17:01:00 -
[338]
Sorry to be a pain but if you get say a grav sig is it best to just use the cosmic sig in probe options or use as many as you can ( i.e 4 for me )
cheers Johny
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Suittam
Gallente
Enigma Technologies
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Posted - 2007.04.14 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Suittam on 14/04/2007 20:30:11
 Originally by: "johnygoodboytyler"
we got a grav sig my corp mate got a result under 400k warped to that point did a sift probe scan and it came up neg no matter how many times he tried question is this usual ????
I have found the Gravimetric sites to be the hardest of all to find tbh. Check the signal strength of the DS signature. There is a post about it somewhere, i'll try and find it.General rule seems to be the harder the Grav Signal (asteroid belt) is to locate, the better it is.
Originally by: "johnygoodboytyler"
also i had a hit in a system last nite but could do nothing about it so this morning went back out did the multi scan and got nothing found is this also usual ????
This is normal, they move about at will, or if somone else finds it. They can dissapear if you warp out of the DS signature, even for a few seconds.
Originally by: "johnygoodboytyler"
also is there any way os showing what your coverage of a system is
Open the System map, and ctrl click all the probes, they will show coverage at each location you dropped them at
Originally by: "johnygoodboytyler"
Sorry to be a pain but if you get say a grav sig is it best to just use the cosmic sig in probe options or use as many as you can ( i.e 4 for me )
They are all Cosmic Signatures, so yes, you only need to select that.
Hope this helps.
-S-
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.14 21:45:00 -
[340]
thx for that helped a lot
got a mag sig tonite found site was able to open 2 cans 1 with 7 charred mico circuits in 1 with nowt other needed salvage (i have lvl4) so i am assuming lvl5 traing now 12 days eeeeeeeeee*********kk got hacking lvl4 and archaeology lvl3 why dont these cans say what lvl skil u need to open them
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Ragnor Dayton
Amarr
Paxton Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.15 10:06:00 -
[341]
To my knowledge all exploration site cans only require the relavent level 3 skill to open at most. Are you sure you were using the right module?
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.15 15:48:00 -
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i was using analyzier it just said to open this need salvaging skill
cheers JGBT
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.15 17:04:00 -
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i have tryed to do the coverage thing but system map shows nothing do i need to change defaults in map browser ?
cheers JGBT
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.15 17:33:00 -
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right heres a goodie
have got grav sig in system planets are spread thus 1-6 with in 3.6 planet 5 and planet vi being furthest apart got 2 planets n outer rings
did a bookmark to planet v so planet 6 was at 4.0 au giving me coverage of planets 1-6 plus 2 au outside each of them
but after 10 scans still nothing is this normal ?????
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.15 18:41:00 -
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i`m here again sorry
right i have scanned this system 15 times for a grav sig ( no luck) looking at the coverage i have i should have got a hit by now scan time is 270 secs btw anyone got any ideas as i am pulling me hair out on this 1
cheers JGBT
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Francois Feldspar
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Posted - 2007.04.15 20:50:00 -
[346]
So I have four signatures in one system I'm looking at, including an Unknown and a Gravimetric. I'm looking for hidden belts. I've found one deepspace complex, the first room of which just has a bunch of 500 Veldspar roids.
Is this likely the hidden belt, or are hidden belts not inside deadspace complexes?
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Elena Lanfear
Crafty Logistics
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Posted - 2007.04.15 21:38:00 -
[347]
I have found around 50 belts so far and each wasnt inside an Acceleration Gate. I would guess you were lucky with one of your "Unknown" Sigs and got a Plex with roids to mine inside.
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Jedateech
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Posted - 2007.04.18 02:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jedateech on 18/04/2007 02:30:40
Originally by: Joerd Toastius
Once you have your 0m result, be very careful with it. Some sites drop you at an empty deadspace gate, some drop you at a gate with passive hostiles near it, and some drop you straight into the line of fire. If you go in with a covops, go cloaked, bookmark quickly and run away again - I've lost I think two covops on SiSi to enemy fire in this way. Also, if you do decide to park your ship and go in with a pod, make sure not to leave your ship too close - once the deadspace pocket spawns, the usual deadspace rules apply and if your ship is too close you won't be able to warp to it until the site expires.
wish id read this earlier. now im boating it 1500km in the direction of my heron :/
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Glaive
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Posted - 2007.04.20 10:51:00 -
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null Originally by: johnygoodboytyler
i`m here again sorry
right i have scanned this system 15 times for a grav sig ( no luck) looking at the coverage i have i should have got a hit by now scan time is 270 secs btw anyone got any ideas as i am pulling me hair out on this 1
cheers JGBT
Guess it's a bit late replying to this now, but hey.
Gravs can be the hardest to find - if you are confident there are no gaps in your coverage then you just have to keep scanning. Took me over 6.5 hours to get a hit with my quests the other day for a grav belt...
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Glaive
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Posted - 2007.04.20 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Francois Feldspar
So I have four signatures in one system I'm looking at, including an Unknown and a Gravimetric. I'm looking for hidden belts. I've found one deepspace complex, the first room of which just has a bunch of 500 Veldspar roids.
Is this likely the hidden belt, or are hidden belts not inside deadspace complexes?
Hidden belts aren't in complexes - you found the unknown. Just check your system map, it will tell you the name of the site
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Vexom
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.21 23:35:00 -
[351]
*starts training astrometrics* 
Great guide :)
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Ares Beck
Blueprint Haus
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 02:44:00 -
[352]
The guide is greatly appreciated. Clear and concise. Thank you!
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Ryo Jang
Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 22:29:00 -
[353]
just did my first hacking complex :D
among other things, i aquired a Occult Data Tuner Interface 2-run bpc. so stoked!
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.25 17:02:00 -
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Hi all been a while since i been here but have improved skills no end found a unknow last nite no rats in room 1 a few in next but the mining was jaspet, hemorphite, omber plagio and quite a bit of it so check the roids in a plex and that was a 0.7 system
cheers jgbt
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.25 17:07:00 -
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right bloody radar i have had 4 of these now in diffrent systems have set me pobs for coverage use probe, scrap, ship, and cosmic and all i get is bloody po`s or stupid miners what the hell is going on and if i just us cosmic i get nothing and that after using 3 lots of probes 
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Ragnor Dayton
Amarr
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.26 12:51:00 -
[356]
Originally by: johnygoodboytyler
right bloody radar i have had 4 of these now in diffrent systems have set me pobs for coverage use probe, scrap, ship, and cosmic and all i get is bloody po`s or stupid miners what the hell is going on and if i just us cosmic i get nothing and that after using 3 lots of probes
I know the feeling. Some of these sites have a really small signal strength, the last couple of Base 4's I have found have had signal strength with Quest of 0.025. These can easily take up to 5 sets of quests with my sub 4 minute scan time to find. Don't give up, you have just been unlucky. And make sure you have plenty of pursuits/combs/sifts handy for when you do get the hit!
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Jonak
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.26 15:04:00 -
[357]
Hello everyone.
I'm just checking in. I'm training up and looking forward to getting into the exploration features of the game. I'll be done with Frigate 5 in a few days and then I'll start on other required skills. I bookmarked the Exploration channel and D'Nightmares guides and sites and stuff. I've still got some gear to collect and skills to get to level 5 (Science, etc..). Then I'll get out there and give a try.
Cya all soon.
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johnygoodboytyler
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Posted - 2007.04.26 15:19:00 -
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Hiya Jonak
welcome to the wierd and woderful world of exploration
convo me in game if you need a hand ( if i can help i will )
cheers JGBT
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Jonak
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.26 15:41:00 -
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Thanks. 
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max bygraves
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Posted - 2007.04.28 00:55:00 -
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When i have emptied a system of sites, do they or any other sites respawn in the system ?
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