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Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2015.10.18 14:46:09 -
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The Power Broker wrote:Another example of the vocal few having a tantrum over something that will assist with keeping new players and possibly bringing more people into the game (like Incana). So you're saying this change, will be the great success Incarna was?
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Mia Snow
TurboBrioche
0
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Posted - 2015.10.18 14:46:18 -
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Can i haz....
Your skilpoint? |
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
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Posted - 2015.10.18 14:59:10 -
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Freelancer117 wrote:Power to the Costumers, Vote with your Wallet Quote:There is only one boss. The customer. And he can fire everybody in the company from the chairman on down, simply by spending his money somewhere else.
Sam Walton source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Walton
They say: The customer is king.
If you ever had to deal with customers you know that it's partly true: customers can be royal a-holes.
The thing is you properly escalate before you go nuclear. Usually you start with discussing and bringing well thought out arguments to the table.
Rioting or quitting should be a last resort.
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Erin Crawford
489
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:03:28 -
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Zappity wrote:I think the proposed change is a good idea. I would think otherwise if the character bazaar were not already a thing. But it is, so bring it on.
Exactly!
"Those who talk donGÇÖt know. Those who know donGÇÖt talk. "
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Erin Crawford
489
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:04:48 -
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Leonardo Adami wrote:This is dumb, the proposal is amazing and I hope they go through with it cause it's long overdue. People who stifle progress or attempt to like yourself are a large portion of what's wrong with this game. Yup.
"Those who talk donGÇÖt know. Those who know donGÇÖt talk. "
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Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
61
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:40:48 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Top Guac wrote:Lol. Protest by logging in and playing the game.
That's not the way to protest.
If you are serious about protesting and want to send a real message to CCP, then the only way to protest is to back up your words by unsubscribing all accounts and not logging in.
Maybe keep one account active to keep your main training, but don't log in.
That's the only way to send CCP a clear, simple message that you don't agree with their direction. Tell them and then back that up with action that produces much more meaningful statistics. I have done just that. I QUIT DURING INCARNIA. QUIT. SPACEBARBIES AND GREED IS GOOD CAN GO TO HELL FOR REAL. I set a long skill queue with several cruiser 5s and some other good 5s. SEE YOU IN A WHILE CCP IF YOU EVER GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES. ILL BE FREAKING PLAYING WORLD OF WARSHIPS FOR THE TWITCH-PVP-NO-1-SEC-SERVER-TICK-TWOTCHY PVP GOT 5MONTHS LEFT ON SUB. ILL PLAY WARSHIPS TIL XMAS THEN CHECK BACK TO SEE HOW PAY2WIN HAS RUINED GAME AND IM SICK OF YOU CODDLING CAREBEARS AND NERFING CONTENT CREATORS. (DO NOT WORRY EVE-O JUST CUZ PLAYING WORLD OF WARSHIPS AND SKILLQUEUE ONLINE I WILL STILL LONG IN TO POST ON FORUMS)
Funny.
Instead of ramming a feature down our throats (Like Incarna) CCP is:
1) Putting a concept. (Read this word again: CONCEPT) on the table.
2) Asking for feedback on the concept, and ideas on how to flesh it out before implementation.
But out of habit, some of you just can't stop yourselves from flipping your shtz.
You know what would be a great feature to cram down our throats?
You need a paid sub to post.
It would be a nice way to cull the forums of the arm chair quarterbacking trolls who whine about a game they don't even play anymore.
Eve is a game designed to thwart pay to win.
I know,
god knows I've tried.
10 million skill points in drones, missiles or gunnery is not going to make you a better PVP pilot.
it's going to make you kill mail fodder. Unless...................you are a seasoned vet and want a change of character skills.
Y'know.....LIKE A SERVICE THE CHARACTER BAZAAR ALREADY OFFERS.
Getting upset over this proposal is a great gauge for your reading comprehension.
Now point on the doll where the bad CCP touched you, CAM.
Dan
Honey Never Sleeps.
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armymp327
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:46:42 -
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I think this new skillpoint idea is a great idea and good start to bringing new players or old players back to the game |
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
420
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:57:16 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Portmanteau wrote:The Power Broker wrote:It should bring more players into Eve and or retain them...... Check It may keep players away when it gets around that in EvE, not only do you need to pay a subscription up front, but you need to buy X quantity of skillpoints for X amount of RL cash before you can do anything worthwhile. This will be the new perception of many new players if this goes live. So much for the NPE. How about this message for new players: SP are quite useful, but not that important. Don't get all excited about SP and take your time. Because if you're willing to progress slower than usual, after the first 2 months you can play for free for just a couple 100 million ISK a month. Go shoot people in Faction Warfare!Because one of the possibilities of the new system will be trading SP for ISK for PLEX... Yes, after 5M SP newbros can sell SP too.
What Portmanteau is getting to is that some outsiders / new players already have this false notion that they are competing solely on the SP and ISK level with older players. They think that they can buy the ISK, but will alway stay 12 years worth of skilltraining behind the highest SP characters.
They don't know or don't accept that the competition as far as SP go is always only within a certain number of skills which all are hard-capped at level 5.
So far PLEX and the character bazaar exist, to allow players who want to spend real money to increase SP and ISK to do so. The character bazaar is not very easy to use and thereby limits the number of players using it.
The proposed changes are good as far as making it easieer to obtain SP without the downsides of the character bazaar.
The question is, how will it affect the perception about EvE in the general public ? We already deal with perceptions such as "I would play EvE if you didn't have to be online every day" or "EvE is just spreadsheets in space".
We also know that many corps have minimum SP requirements.
I think it is not completely impossible that new players will get the feeling of having to procure ISK and SP in the fastest way possible (spending real money) right off the bat. If that happens we might have to deal with EvE getting a pay2win stigma on top.
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
10087
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:58:15 -
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armymp327 wrote:I think this new skillpoint idea is a great idea and good start to bringing new players or old players back to the game
You are overrating this. We will see only threads where new players will be complaining on the prices of skillpoints.
Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
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Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope Gallente Federation
481
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Posted - 2015.10.18 16:00:49 -
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Dan Seavey Allier wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Top Guac wrote:Lol. Protest by logging in and playing the game.
That's not the way to protest.
If you are serious about protesting and want to send a real message to CCP, then the only way to protest is to back up your words by unsubscribing all accounts and not logging in.
Maybe keep one account active to keep your main training, but don't log in.
That's the only way to send CCP a clear, simple message that you don't agree with their direction. Tell them and then back that up with action that produces much more meaningful statistics. I have done just that. I QUIT DURING INCARNIA. QUIT. SPACEBARBIES AND GREED IS GOOD CAN GO TO HELL FOR REAL. I set a long skill queue with several cruiser 5s and some other good 5s. SEE YOU IN A WHILE CCP IF YOU EVER GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES. ILL BE FREAKING PLAYING WORLD OF WARSHIPS FOR THE TWITCH-PVP-NO-1-SEC-SERVER-TICK-TWOTCHY PVP GOT 5MONTHS LEFT ON SUB. ILL PLAY WARSHIPS TIL XMAS THEN CHECK BACK TO SEE HOW PAY2WIN HAS RUINED GAME AND IM SICK OF YOU CODDLING CAREBEARS AND NERFING CONTENT CREATORS. (DO NOT WORRY EVE-O JUST CUZ PLAYING WORLD OF WARSHIPS AND SKILLQUEUE ONLINE I WILL STILL LONG IN TO POST ON FORUMS) Funny. Instead of ramming a feature down our throats (Like Incarna) CCP is: 1) Putting a concept. (Read this word again: CONCEPT) on the table. 2) Asking for feedback on the concept, and ideas on how to flesh it out before implementation. But out of habit, some of you just can't stop yourselves from flipping your shtz. You know what would be a great feature to cram down our throats? You need a paid sub to post. It would be a nice way to cull the forums of the arm chair quarterbacking trolls who whine about a game they don't even play anymore. Eve is a game designed to thwart pay to win. I know, god knows I've tried. 10 million skill points in drones, missiles or gunnery is not going to make you a better PVP pilot. it's going to make you kill mail fodder. Unless...................you are a seasoned vet and want a change of character skills. Y'know.....LIKE A SERVICE THE CHARACTER BAZAAR ALREADY OFFERS. Getting upset over this proposal is a great gauge for your reading comprehension. Now point on the doll where the bad CCP touched you, CAM. Dan Hey ignorant. You DO NEED an active sub to post of forums (eelse you stuck posting in New Citizens)
Ccp Rise even stated the difference pf Bazarr and SP buying in original devblog and pointed out 2 main differences mr. Ignorant.
And i hate the character bazarr lol I bet if it never existed and ccp tried to inplement it today without ever exosting, We WOULD RAGE
And ccp touched me in a bad way in the following places (plus others cant be bothered to list all)
INCARNIA WORLD OF DARKNESS VAMP MMO DUST514 PS3 ONLY LEGION CANFLIPPING NERF AWOX REMOVAL SWOTCH MINING BARGE EHP BUFF GANK NERF AFTER GANK NERF INSURANCE REMOVAL FOR GANKS CRIMEWATCH BASICALLY DELETING NINJA SALVAGING AS VIABLE CAREER FOR NOOBS VIRYUAL REALITLY HIMLIAR THOUSAND DOLLAR JEANS 2 THOUSAND DPLLAR MAGNEY NYXES HINLAIR GREED IS GOOD
GREED IS GOOD
Edit: ccp "asked for feedback" to csm and basically all said HELL NO ARE YOU STUPID? We gave them feedback from failfozzoesov... took over 6months and still aont fixed. You are a lemming and ignorant and niave, ccp dont want/listen to feedback until its been almost half a year-an entire year of rage |
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
420
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Posted - 2015.10.18 16:03:13 -
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Dan Seavey Allier wrote: You know what would be a great feature to cram down our throats?
You need a paid sub to post.
It would be a nice way to cull the forums of the arm chair quarterbacking trolls who whine about a game they don't even play anymore.
Dan
That's already a thing. Can't post without a paid sub.
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
110
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Posted - 2015.10.18 16:10:15 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Dan Seavey Allier wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Top Guac wrote:Lol. Protest by logging in and playing the game.
That's not the way to protest.
If you are serious about protesting and want to send a real message to CCP, then the only way to protest is to back up your words by unsubscribing all accounts and not logging in.
Maybe keep one account active to keep your main training, but don't log in.
That's the only way to send CCP a clear, simple message that you don't agree with their direction. Tell them and then back that up with action that produces much more meaningful statistics. I have done just that. I QUIT DURING INCARNIA. QUIT. SPACEBARBIES AND GREED IS GOOD CAN GO TO HELL FOR REAL. I set a long skill queue with several cruiser 5s and some other good 5s. SEE YOU IN A WHILE CCP IF YOU EVER GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES. ILL BE FREAKING PLAYING WORLD OF WARSHIPS FOR THE TWITCH-PVP-NO-1-SEC-SERVER-TICK-TWOTCHY PVP GOT 5MONTHS LEFT ON SUB. ILL PLAY WARSHIPS TIL XMAS THEN CHECK BACK TO SEE HOW PAY2WIN HAS RUINED GAME AND IM SICK OF YOU CODDLING CAREBEARS AND NERFING CONTENT CREATORS. (DO NOT WORRY EVE-O JUST CUZ PLAYING WORLD OF WARSHIPS AND SKILLQUEUE ONLINE I WILL STILL LONG IN TO POST ON FORUMS) Funny. Instead of ramming a feature down our throats (Like Incarna) CCP is: 1) Putting a concept. (Read this word again: CONCEPT) on the table. 2) Asking for feedback on the concept, and ideas on how to flesh it out before implementation. But out of habit, some of you just can't stop yourselves from flipping your shtz. You know what would be a great feature to cram down our throats? You need a paid sub to post. It would be a nice way to cull the forums of the arm chair quarterbacking trolls who whine about a game they don't even play anymore. Eve is a game designed to thwart pay to win. I know, god knows I've tried. 10 million skill points in drones, missiles or gunnery is not going to make you a better PVP pilot. it's going to make you kill mail fodder. Unless...................you are a seasoned vet and want a change of character skills. Y'know.....LIKE A SERVICE THE CHARACTER BAZAAR ALREADY OFFERS. Getting upset over this proposal is a great gauge for your reading comprehension. Now point on the doll where the bad CCP touched you, CAM. Dan Hey ignorant. You DO NEED an active sub to post of forums (eelse you stuck posting in New Citizens) Ccp Rise even stated the difference pf Bazarr and SP buying in original devblog and pointed out 2 main differences mr. Ignorant. And i hate the character bazarr lol I bet if it never existed and ccp tried to inplement it today without ever exosting, We WOULD RAGE And ccp touched me in a bad way in the following places (plus others cant be bothered to list all) INCARNIA WORLD OF DARKNESS VAMP MMO DUST514 PS3 ONLY LEGION CANFLIPPING NERF AWOX REMOVAL SWOTCH MINING BARGE EHP BUFF GANK NERF AFTER GANK NERF INSURANCE REMOVAL FOR GANKS CRIMEWATCH BASICALLY DELETING NINJA SALVAGING AS VIABLE CAREER FOR NOOBS VIRYUAL REALITLY HIMLIAR THOUSAND DOLLAR JEANS 2 THOUSAND DPLLAR MAGNEY NYXES HINLAIR GREED IS GOOD GREED IS GOOD Edit: ccp "asked for feedback" to csm and basically all said HELL NO ARE YOU STUPID? We gave them feedback from failfozzoesov... took over 6months and still aont fixed. You are a lemming and ignorant and niave, ccp dont want/listen to feedback until its been almost half a year-an entire year of rage
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
420
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Posted - 2015.10.18 16:21:45 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: And ccp touched me in a bad way in the following places (plus others cant be bothered to list all)
INCARNIA WORLD OF DARKNESS VAMP MMO DUST514 PS3 ONLY LEGION CANFLIPPING NERF AWOX REMOVAL SWOTCH MINING BARGE EHP BUFF GANK NERF AFTER GANK NERF INSURANCE REMOVAL FOR GANKS CRIMEWATCH BASICALLY DELETING NINJA SALVAGING AS VIABLE CAREER FOR NOOBS VIRYUAL REALITLY HIMLIAR THOUSAND DOLLAR JEANS 2 THOUSAND DPLLAR MAGNEY NYXES HINLAIR GREED IS GOOD
GREED IS GOOD
Edit: ccp "asked for feedback" to csm and basically all said HELL NO ARE YOU STUPID? We gave them feedback from failfozzoesov... took over 6months and still aont fixed. You are a lemming and ignorant and niave, ccp dont want/listen to feedback until its been almost half a year-an entire year of rage
Dear CAM,
word of advice, from one professional troll to another.
There are two types of trolls:
- trolls who seek to antagonize or rile up an entire community to feel better about themselves or at least entertain themselves
- trolls who, while using a similar toolset, are looking to entertain parts of the community while antagonising a minority that is already disliked by the community or by actually being witty without the need to antagonize.
If you wish to convey reasonable arguments to the community at large, you shouldn't intersperse your posts with comments that clearly aim for the first type of trolling. You should also avoid to be known as sh--poster, because that decreases the number of people taking you seriously. Either separate your smart posts from your trolling posts or limit the trolling to witty comments that aim at getting a chuckle.
Yours sincerely,
Jill.
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Erin Crawford
489
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Posted - 2015.10.18 16:53:34 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: And i hate the character bazarr lol I bet if it never existed and ccp tried to inplement it today without ever exosting, We WOULD RAGE
And yet the character bazaar exists and you have so far continued to play!
You know what? This is what will happen in the not so distant future - some new troll called Moss-Anne Carrie will post some rubbish like:
Quote: And i hate skill trading lol I bet if it never existed and ccp tried to inplement it today without ever exosting, We WOULD RAGE
And yet skill trading would then have excited for some time and players would have adapted and continue to play...
etc,..
"Those who talk donGÇÖt know. Those who know donGÇÖt talk. "
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
10089
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Posted - 2015.10.18 17:00:42 -
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Its Hilmar. Your post qualifies to be removed.
Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
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Epic Name
The Scope Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2015.10.18 17:06:25 -
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Can't wait for this new feature it will be good for the game |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5671
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Posted - 2015.10.18 17:07:47 -
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I've made my position clear on this elsewhere.
However, That said, fairness demands that I do clear something up:
CCP did talk with the CSM about this, before all of you saw this. The posting of the devblog didn't blind side us about it.
I won't say 'The CSM is against this'. Because if you go looking, a negative reaction isn't unanimous. But some of us did react negatively, and told CCP that we thought it was a bad idea. And then, because we went with the adult reaction, we didn't throw our toys out the pram and refuse to talk further. 'This is a bad idea. This is how you make it a less bad idea. But it's still a bad idea'.
Discuss doesn't equal 'give a veto to'.
To clarify on my own reaction: I'm not a fan, because it leads to the feeling that people 'must' buy skill points to keep their character competitive. Yes, people could always go and buy a character off the Bazaar. But their connection to a character like that is less. Also, it's a significantly higher outlay, so it's not a 'normal' option for people to take. With a lower initial cost, the pressure is higher. And I think that's a bad idea.
(Will it kill Eve? Nope. I just don't think it'll be good for it)
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
4191
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Posted - 2015.10.18 17:43:08 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:To clarify on my own reaction: I'm not a fan, because it leads to the feeling that people 'must' buy skill points to keep their character competitive. This I don't really understand, Steve.
Experienced players will buy SP only if they need it (for a specific purpose) and sell the SP they don't need.
Newer players will know that the option exists, and that it's relatively expensive. The normal reaction I'd expect is 'hmmm ok, that's a lot of ISK... do I really need this?' answer: 'not necessarily, it depends, it's your choice to make. for 12 years players got by without it!' 'ok, I'll learn a little bit more about the game first. nice that we at least have the option now'.
Or something along those lines.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Bobb Bobbington
The Cult of the Rare Pepes
74
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Posted - 2015.10.18 17:44:10 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:I've made my position clear on this elsewhere.
However, That said, fairness demands that I do clear something up:
CCP did talk with the CSM about this, before all of you saw this. The posting of the devblog didn't blind side us about it.
I won't say 'The CSM is against this'. Because if you go looking, a negative reaction isn't unanimous. But some of us did react negatively, and told CCP that we thought it was a bad idea. And then, because we went with the adult reaction, we didn't throw our toys out the pram and refuse to talk further. 'This is a bad idea. This is how you make it a less bad idea. But it's still a bad idea'.
Discuss doesn't equal 'give a veto to'.
To clarify on my own reaction: I'm not a fan, because it leads to the feeling that people 'must' buy skill points to keep their character competitive. Yes, people could always go and buy a character off the Bazaar. But their connection to a character like that is less. Also, it's a significantly higher outlay, so it's not a 'normal' option for people to take. With a lower initial cost, the pressure is higher. And I think that's a bad idea.
(Will it kill Eve? Nope. I just don't think it'll be good for it)
I suppose the million dollar question is if CCP can afford to miss the opportunity cost of so much money if they go without these skill packets. |
Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc. Phoebe Freeport Republic
703
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Posted - 2015.10.18 18:38:40 -
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I think we should campaign a movement that states:
Any CSM who did not openly support this change is not worthy of being re-elected ever again.
Can't have CSMs who are so out of touch with reality that they'll let eve die so they can preserve their own self serving advantages such as skill points. |
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5673
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Posted - 2015.10.18 18:57:59 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:To clarify on my own reaction: I'm not a fan, because it leads to the feeling that people 'must' buy skill points to keep their character competitive. This I don't really understand, Steve. Experienced players will buy SP only if they need it (for a specific purpose) and sell the SP they don't need. Newer players will know that the option exists, and that it's relatively expensive. The normal reaction I'd expect is 'hmmm ok, that's a lot of ISK... do I really need this?' answer: 'not necessarily, it depends, it's your choice to make. for 12 years players got by without it!' 'ok, I'll learn a little bit more about the game first. nice that we at least have the option now'. Or something along those lines.
'They expect me to pay how much to catch up?' is the reaction I have concerns about
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
4195
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Posted - 2015.10.18 19:02:48 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:To clarify on my own reaction: I'm not a fan, because it leads to the feeling that people 'must' buy skill points to keep their character competitive. This I don't really understand, Steve. Experienced players will buy SP only if they need it (for a specific purpose) and sell the SP they don't need. Newer players will know that the option exists, and that it's relatively expensive. The normal reaction I'd expect is 'hmmm ok, that's a lot of ISK... do I really need this?' answer: 'not necessarily, it depends, it's your choice to make. for 12 years players got by without it!' 'ok, I'll learn a little bit more about the game first. nice that we at least have the option now'. Or something along those lines. 'They expect me to pay how much to catch up?' is the reaction I have concerns about I see your point, but the answer 'roughly as much as the others paid to accumulate those SP in the first place' would feel reasonable, no? And some of us are playing with numbers/predictions, it could even cost a bit less...
And aren't we all always trying to make newbros understand that 'catching up' isn't very important after all?
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
1289
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Posted - 2015.10.18 19:17:27 -
[83] - Quote
aww the drama, ccp does not do what I want... you pussy
Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
115
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Posted - 2015.10.18 19:29:02 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:
'They expect me to pay how much to catch up?' is the reaction I have concerns about
That's my main issue with it too, couldn't give a toss about other players should go through what I did blah blah, it's the new guys feeling fleeced by CCP that concerns me.
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Amber Starview
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2015.10.18 20:10:48 -
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Nobody will feel fleeced and this is a good thing for ccp to be raising income in tough times ,even though I'm not sold on the way sp is being sold I shall wait and see and shall be not "rioting" but gl =ƒÿü |
Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
365
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Posted - 2015.10.18 20:53:18 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:If you are looking for support in this endeavor, I'm afraid it won't be coming from me. Mr Epeen Well said... He always saids well. Ibid.
Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain -
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Wendrika Hydreiga
529
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Posted - 2015.10.18 21:27:37 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:'They expect me to pay how much to catch up?' is the reaction I have concerns about
A parallel could be made with what we have currently:
'They expect me to wait for how long to catch up?'
The common consensus for people that have this reaction often boils down to HTFU. And that's terrible.
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
449
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Posted - 2015.10.18 22:33:52 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:'They expect me to pay how much to catch up?' is the reaction I have concerns about A parallel could be made with what we have currently: 'They expect me to wait for how long to catch up?' The common consensus for people that have this reaction often boils down to HTFU. And that's terrible. So you should start imedialty with 100M skill points cus someone has that many. What about isk. I mean some people have billions of isk. should new accounts start with billions.
If you keep following this logic all the way, you get a very boring game indeed. One where nothing is special and nothing matters because everyone has everything.
AKA the scientist.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1274
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Posted - 2015.10.18 22:40:08 -
[89] - Quote
I have removed a rant/troll/off-topic post and those quoting them.
Quote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
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