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Daikaze
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Posted - 2007.01.17 19:55:00 -
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EvE PVP is as real as it gets.
There are countries with warring groups. War isn't consensual and as long as it doesn't affect the other groups they don't usually care.
In this case Concord ignores the fighting because it has nothing to do with them and it will ultimately cost them money. They protect their citizens like any corp protects their members. I suppose someone will counter-argue this (I can think of a few things to argue this already).
Essentially you just need to do what is done in reality: You ask for help :) Odds are there is going to be a corp/alliance that frowns on people that pick on the weak corps. Allies are important in this game, you need to make plenty of them to avoid this sort of thing... of course then you only have to deal with the big alliances that want to war with your alliance ;)
This isn't a solo game, it is about politics and alliances. Anyone that isn't a friend is an enemy, there is no neutral in EVE 
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Kirmok
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Posted - 2007.01.17 20:50:00 -
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I must add my 2 cents. I think that in high security empire space...as long as you have neutral or better faction standing...the local military should protect you...concord stays out of it. That makes sense to me...
The empires should seemingly want to maintain order within its borders in high second space. Esp if you have positive standings with them.
Other than that I stick to my npc corp and have fun. Uninvited pvp is not my thing.
I don't pay 15 a month to help some loser who is upset with his/her real life get their rocks off.
Just my 2 cents.
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Xavier Raines
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Posted - 2007.01.17 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kirmok I must add my 2 cents. I think that in high security empire space...as long as you have neutral or better faction standing...the local military should protect you...concord stays out of it. That makes sense to me...
The empires should seemingly want to maintain order within its borders in high second space. Esp if you have positive standings with them.
Other than that I stick to my npc corp and have fun. Uninvited pvp is not my thing.
I don't pay 15 a month to help some loser who is upset with his/her real life get their rocks off.
Just my 2 cents.
Huh? You are saying that people who enjoy PvP {or at least pvp that involves you} are losers who hate their lives?
People with your mindset are half the reason why these pirates go out of their way to go after carebear corps. They read this trash on the forums and come after you and your kind because you don't know when to shut up.
Just my two cents. 
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Kirmok
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Posted - 2007.01.17 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xavier Raines
Originally by: Kirmok I must add my 2 cents. I think that in high security empire space...as long as you have neutral or better faction standing...the local military should protect you...concord stays out of it. That makes sense to me...
The empires should seemingly want to maintain order within its borders in high second space. Esp if you have positive standings with them.
Other than that I stick to my npc corp and have fun. Uninvited pvp is not my thing.
I don't pay 15 a month to help some loser who is upset with his/her real life get their rocks off.
Just my 2 cents.
Huh? You are saying that people who enjoy PvP {or at least pvp that involves you} are losers who hate their lives?
People with your mindset are half the reason why these pirates go out of their way to go after carebear corps. They read this trash on the forums and come after you and your kind because you don't know when to shut up.
Just my two cents. 
Such hostility... I was talking about the people who kill just do the hell of it...no economic need, no teritorial conflict, just the people who go after people minding their own business who are in the wrong place at the wrong time.
What satisfaction does one derive from playing a game where you can pick on players weaker than you who offer no challenge?
Maybe you can explain it to me because I don't understand it
That's who I am talking about...
I think is quite funny how you ignore the entire content of the quoted post and comment only on the last sentence! lol
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Kirmok
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Posted - 2007.01.17 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Kirmok on 17/01/2007 22:22:22 Dbl post sorry
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Teinyhr
Minmatar United Systems Navy
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Posted - 2007.01.17 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd Besides, specialization is for insects.
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Chimu Quien
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Posted - 2007.01.17 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kirmok
Such hostility... I was talking about the people who kill just do the hell of it...no economic need, no teritorial conflict, just the people who go after people minding their own business who are in the wrong place at the wrong time.
What satisfaction does one derive from playing a game where you can pick on players weaker than you who offer no challenge?
Maybe you can explain it to me because I don't understand it
Yes, as I say, the pvp/piracy/war system in Eve doesn't make much sense. There's no logic behind most of the combat. It's nothing more than 'I wanna blow stuff up, d00d!!!'
There's no reason, really, for those of us who are in Eve simply for the fun of it to join a player corp.
I would rather stay in an NPC corp where I can, effectively, play the game solo.
Let those who want to accumulate the biggest ships and the most ISK and fight each other go right on ahead and do so.
There is room in Eve for everybody.
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Chimu Quien
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Posted - 2007.01.17 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy TenKreds The game mechanics you dislike are in place and will remain in place for as long as Eve remains a competitive game.
Who said I don't like the game mechanics? I could not possibly care less what the game mechanics are, because they already allow me to play the game as I see fit to play it.
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
I don't care, provided they don't come on here to whine that the game needs to be fixed 'cause they got their **** blown up.
Well, friend, the fact that they pay the same subscription you do gives them the right to come here and 'whine,' as you put it. There is nothing at all that you can do about it, unless you work for CCP.
The intensity of your anger about this whole issue shows that perhaps you are taking all of this a bit too seriously.
In the end, it's just a game.
Eve is meant to be fun. I hope that you can somehow find some fun in this wonderful game.
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Portios Smith
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.17 23:04:00 -
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Is going to take a truck full of bleach to get all the whine off this poor thread. EVE is fine, it has been fine for over 3 years, if anything NPC corps need nerfing.
If EVE lets people hide from risk while making tons of ISK this game will degenerate in to a clone MMORPG like EQII and WoW. EVE is different and the day that changes EVE is dead.
If you dont want to PvP the only real solution is to talk to some one into doing it for you or hire mercs, cause the moment you undock in your rookie ship for the first time you are at risk of getting blown up. Some people love this!
Oh and cry all you want, it won't help 
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2007.01.18 00:01:00 -
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Edited by: Malcanis on 17/01/2007 23:58:49 I'm just thinking of those poor Poles in 1939: "OMG HEYDRICH GANG-EXPLOIT GANKED US: NERF PANZERS!"
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Romeda
Minmatar Trojan industries
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Posted - 2007.01.18 00:04:00 -
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Ok let me spell this out to you all...
First EVE is not a PvP only game, simply because most of the player base can't look passed blowing things up to see the balance of EVE's content, so no, EVE is a balanced game.
And the game mechanics of EVE allow for corps to declare war on other corps, this has always been so. Privateers are not exploiting the war-decing mechanics but in my opinion they are pushing things a little near the line and turning EVE into something like Counter Strike.
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