Would you mind if I explained what we're doing to you in plain english

lol CCP is parading this war like it will save EVE so I don't know what you're talking about.

Concurrent player numbers are up, new account creation is up...the only thing that seems to be dropping is player counts for the *remaining* CFC alliances.

Probably because being told to blueball, ignore your allies and watch your sov burn is boring as hell for your linemembers.

lol CCP is parading this war like it will save EVE so I don't know what you're talking about.

In a glorious turn of events this thread has become a testament to our best weapon in this war.

The irony is just epic.

Xeno this is a miniature manifesto of what has been said publicly by Mittens. This is also my interpretation so you know, evaluate it on your own for accuracy and truth.

It is very clear that you value the goodfight gameplay. As a coalition we have made up our minds to deny you those fights. This aligns with our secondary goal of denying CCP their war.

We want to place nothing but entosis nodes in front of you, and also leave CCP struggling for proof that a war is happening. The only unprecedented metrics we want them to see is the amount of stront used in entosis links, and the number of entosis minutes forced upon players.

As far as I'm concerned this is the Un-War.

I never said anything about numbers except let it climb.

lol

Certainly not more than half. The only space SMA has abandoned is space we had no intention of living in.

The sov mechanic system can only really be used ageist you if you care about sov. A lot of people seem to care about sov while others donGÇÖt if people dint care about sov and the defenders do it will always be in the attackerGÇÖs favor.

The question will always come down to what is the greater power. The power to create and build or the power to destroy. What do people want to do in this game and how do they want to play.

Fozzie sov seemed to desire to make a city state type of null sec where lots of groups owned and held sov. The old system meant only a few powerful groups could hold sov. What will happen when everything settles who knows. Will it go back to the way it was before with the Imperium owning half of sov null. Will Anyone hold sov, or will lots of groups hold sov? I donGÇÖt have an answer to that.

Probably time to update that statement after your SOTA.

Wait, so you're telling me situations change? Honestly I'm surprised!

Let me ask you this. If you achieve what you want and we move to invulnerable NPC stations then continue to play exactly as we always have from the safety of NPC space, what are you going to do then? Because you won't have your inherent advantage and supposedly you don't want to be blue with 40,000 people forever, but this war won't end just because a few of us have to relocate. You guys are way ahead of yourselves patting yourselves on the back lol

And you don't see the problem with this? The sov system is supposed to be about people who want sov deciding who gets it. Since it best used by simply not wanting sov there's no point in sov existing.

IF there's no point it it exsisting then let it die. And I disagree with you there sov is supposed to be about people creating a castle and defending it. I don;lt want to have it or need to have it to attack your castle.. SHould I have to fight and strugle for it sure but to lay sige to it I dont need to want it just have the desire to attack it.

Except it clearly doesn't, since like you've just said the attacker has the advantage by not caring about sov, thus they don't actually need to be more powerful.

Strange if i don;t need to be more stronger or more orginized why didn't you leave sov until everyone joined the fight. you guys could have left when it was just Tshu, horde, and waffles but since we couldn't fight all of you at once you held on till a greater force was assembled.

But that's not going to happen, what it's going to create is a place where it's irrelevant who holds sov since anyone can just roll in trigger all your timers, waste your time and inevitably destroy your space. It's a sov system that gives and overwhelming advantage to non-sov holders, which is probably the dumbest way for the mechanic to be. The only reason you like that is that you are the non-sov holder lol. As usual, players benefiting from the broken mechanic think it's fine.

You claim that the only reason I like this is because IGÇÖm not a sov holder. That fact is untrue I like the system because you need to occupy all your space and maintain high indexes or the small guy can take a bit of it for however long they can hold onto it.

If they want proper occupancy sov they should just scrap entosis, scrap the structures and make it pure occupancy based, then the only way to take as well as hold a system is to actually live in it rather than this timer based crap.

I think the Russians are over extended as well but that is beside the point.

Except this isn't true, since all it takes is flying in and triggering timers forcing the defender to respond until the windows get wide enough that they can't stop them all.