And mate, the mechanics will get changed. CCP have already declared entosis to be such a terrible mechanic that it's been rejected from citadels, and I imagine when citadels roll round and sov structure get merged in they will be based on the newer damage mitigation mechanics.

it's human nature you cant remove boredoom without making artifical figths. if you have something i want i can chose to fight you or not. if you have something to harras i can or chose to not. when deffending you have to deffend or chose to recapture it latter. it's just the nature of the sandbox moons are an example of this somethimes people fight over them sometimes they reinforce it anfd blueball.

You don't like the sov system? Don't live in sov. There is NPC null, low-sec FW, non-fw lowsec, highsec, wormholes, thera, a lot of different places for you to go.

Now if you WANT to play in sov null, then stop complaining like a little ***** about sov null. It's this way or the highway.

So whats your point with the post?

BTW, no one here does any attempt to understand the other.

Personally, I would love to be the attacker (i've have been a few times) and the defender (defender sounds better, no need to gimp fits, guaranteed action, instant reship if i lose) on this entosis thing.
Problem with ns would be showing to the big fights...

FYI you're posting on a character in an industry corp with two lowsec Nighthawk losses, w/ pods.

It's times like this I pretend you're a dev. There's something about a smug forum retort that just feels different.

So I start to investigate. Your corp has 8 characters, and three of them were born within a day of each other, from 2014/03/27 to 2014/03/28.

Devs are also given three accounts to play for free, for "gameplay experience." Take one CCP character from the possible 9, and there's your 8 character corp.

Now let's look at that date 2014/03/27 and compare it to the list of CCP characters and their born dates. What are the odds that Sequestor Risalo is born, say, within 24 hours of a CCP.

I figure the time difference is accounted for by an artist at CCP taking that first day to model the CCP character after the new CCP person. Because there's no way each and every CCP is so skilled at making their character in their likeness.

Going down my list of birth dates I see that there is, in fact, a CCP born date that falls within my criteria.

What are the odds?

I was not there during siege fleet for example. I get your feeling tho. I really wish more people would recognize it was just as stupid back then.

The current fun/hours battle is probably WAY in horde and co's favor and they will probably milk it for all they can because it's how people EVE. You never know when you will be on the receiving end of it.

The memorable event of EVE didn't happen on night were blueballing was going on. Nothing really great happened in EVE while one side was docked while the other side did a clean-up operation while thinking why they even logged to this boring game of rep the tower, rep the station, burn the SBU and other stuff like that.

The point is that right now it's pretty awful and stopgap measure would be good. It's like if your tap comes off and you have water spraying all over the ceiling, you don;t just say "oh well the plumber is coming in a few weeks, so we'll leave it till then".

You certainly don't get guaranteed action as a defender, unless watching numbers tick by is what you call action.

It seems that SMA is holding too much space for their (mostly PvE) members to defend. Ideally, they would be able to turtle up around their capital system with sov mechanics allowing systems to be meaningfully upgraded around a central constellation. But that should penalise the rest of the region.

Also, sov should be attractive enough, or necessary enough, that powerful entities reach the conclusion that they need it. I really dislike the current style of nomadic alliances freely attacking anyone around the map with few important assets at risk. It disincentives those who DO want to hold sov to buy cheap laughs for those who do not.

We might see a bit of a shift in this direction when supers need to be stored at citadels (when POS disappear) but that would only be a start.

We are still missing an answer to the fundamental question of why anyone should bother to hold sov.

Agreed that there needs to be more benefit to owning and holding sov, but nomadic alliances won't go anywhere. It's a lot of fun and most groups like PL that do it are wealthy enough on a player level that there aren't really mechanic changes that would force us to settle down in null. It's just not our thing.

And maybe the biggest part is that you are in war (losing some say) and being negatively affected by the mechanic, your opinion is bound to be skewed against it. I'll encourage you to do this post when you are a clear winner of the use of the mechanic.

classic lucas kell posting lies, misinformation and/or strawmen to make his nullbabby life as easy as possible

It seems that SMA is holding too much space for their (mostly PvE) members to defend.

If that were true, we'd have lost our space.

or go back to Sov always being vulnerable... never made sense to me to only have windows of vulnerability

just a bunch of nobodies crying that they couldn't defeat their enemies

You're far too busy trying to get you're little insults in to look at the actual quality of gameplay here, but it's dire.

There never was an aura of invincibility, just a bunch of nobodies crying that they couldn't defeat their enemies while refusing to cooperate with other players. Now they've formed up their own coalition they are getting a foot off the ground at least. But that;s not what the complaint is. I don;t really care if we lose all of our space as long as it's entertaining while it's happening. We play games to be entertained not endlessly watch numbers tick down while one dude mines a structure.

You're far too busy trying to get your little insults in to look at the actual quality of gameplay here, but it's dire. We all know this and the only reason some people like it is because of the advantage it gives them.

Yeah I feel like calling it guerrilla tactics lends it more credibility than it deserves.

I like how anyone who isn't stupid enough to think that cooperating is as easy as saying "OK let's cooperate" is a nobody. We had the balls to stand on our own, we got our **** kicked, and now we're growing and getting better than we used to be.

Don't be jealous fam, you can do it too, it just requires hard work and effort.

I will add my voice to the many. Please, please reduce the number of sov vulnerability timers. Every day we log in, that's all we do is defend space. There's no time for anything else. I work and have a family life to enjoy.

At least with a paying job you get two days off. Take these vulnerability timers down to 3 days a week.

You'd developers must think there are hundreds of thousands of people playing this game. That or that we're all unemployed with nothing better to do. Reduce the timers for goodness sake.

Thanks

What the hell are you complaining about?