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Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7439	Posted - 2016.03.29 10:14:13 - [271] - Quote Zappity wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Why does it not surprise me that you need a sippy cup? You are being very nasty in this thread. Were I of similar ilk I would point out that CO2 just figured out how to reduce sov timers. :) I wouldn't really call that nasty. And sure they have, by opting out of defending them by joining a different coalition. Do you seriously not see a problem with mechanics that are best played by avoiding playing with them? The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Zappity Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 2783	Posted - 2016.03.29 11:06:10 - [272] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Zappity wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Why does it not surprise me that you need a sippy cup? You are being very nasty in this thread. Were I of similar ilk I would point out that CO2 just figured out how to reduce sov timers. :) I wouldn't really call that nasty. And sure they have, by opting out of defending them by joining a different coalition. Do you seriously not see a problem with mechanics that are best played by avoiding playing with them? Really? I thought the fact that they wanted to stay and defend their space was the reason they left. Unlike the other rapidly retreating alliances. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7439	Posted - 2016.03.29 11:14:40 - [273] - Quote Zappity wrote: Really? I thought the fact that they wanted to stay and defend their space was the reason they left. Unlike the other rapidly retreating alliances. Sorry, I was under the impression you actually knew what the situation was. Their space was being defended, it was the new front line hence the huge push from other Imperium alliances to defend their space. They've chosen to swap sides specifically to avoid having to defend their space. I'm really not sure who you think they would now need to defend against considering they're going blue with the only group likely to attack them. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33485	Posted - 2016.03.29 11:33:51 - [274] - Quote Zappity please lay off the ph koolaid. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33485	Posted - 2016.03.29 11:41:09 - [275] - Quote Quote: Someone who doesn't care a fig for WHO you think you are..... But totally enjoying the irony. My sippy cup of tears brims over So far you've only been difficult. I'm divorced and know what it feels like when someone has made up their mind to be that way. I'm pretty sure the only way to make you agreeable is to concede that I'm a completely dejected goon and otherwise victimize myself. But I'm not and I won't, and you hate it. The reason I care who you are (and I still don't know) is that I might gain some insight as to what is motivating your hateboner. If there is a discussion to be had with you, I'm still open to the possibility. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Aiwha Infinite Point Violence of Action. 1008	Posted - 2016.03.29 12:15:58 - [276] - Quote Don't worry zap, they're just bitter that the biggest contributor to their war effort was welcomed back into civilized space with open arms. The new sov system has actually been working surprisingly well in splitting up fleets and spreading conflicts across multiple grids and systems, while still occasionally focusing everything into massive OHGODWHY tidi furballs. Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 12:29:07 - [277] - Quote You wish. Coalition space is no longer a Y and I'm pretty sure we'll get closer to a 1:1 ratio of alliance per region. I'll admit that's probably the more responsible way to sov, and entosis might have some part in that. It's only due to the pressure of this war, though. Groups will return to equilibrium and end up occupying the space they have the organization, management, motivation, infrastructure, and manpower for... ...in relation to each other. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 12:31:43 - [278] - Quote Politics is far too impersonal for me to be bitter. I am thoroughly amused by the turn of events. It's better than Oprah. If you think that's who you're talking to, someone bitter that is, we will never see eye to eye. But I get that you want it to be true. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7440	Posted - 2016.03.29 12:38:13 - [279] - Quote Rain, obviously you are unaware of this, but any response you have is tears. You're a bitter, salty gewn, and nothing you say will change that. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 12:51:46 - [280] - Quote lol. The propaganda war is spilling over. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

Sol epoch Addicted To Chaos Archetype. 283	Posted - 2016.03.29 13:22:51 - [281] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: lol. The propaganda war is spilling over. More like Spin and fire control!
Aiwha Infinite Point Violence of Action. 1009	Posted - 2016.03.29 13:29:16 - [282] - Quote Groups will certainly stabilize again, the question is, how many are going to be loyal to her martini when it happens? CFC members have to be asking themselves what THEY get out of this "loyalty" thing. Apparently its not having your space defended. Or your titans protected. I guess you get to read Mittani's ego pings right away rather than waiting for somebody to post them to reddit, but is that really worth expending your time and assets protecting his assets? Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 13:30:45 - [283] - Quote Do you call us the CFC because you still have the last war's axe to grind? You have it backwards, btw. I was paid 900 Million ISK after losing two Oneiroses yesterday. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7442	Posted - 2016.03.29 13:44:55 - [284] - Quote Aiwha, Even if we ignore the fact that we make isk when losing ships, you're effectively asking why we expend time and effort to shoot at and get shot in spaceships in a spaceship video game. The time it's hardest to maintain loyalty to the Imperium is when nothing is happening. When there's constant content it's a no-brainer. Rain, he calls us the CFC because he like many others is so mad at the Imperium that even the tiniest thing we do - even something so simple as changing a name - is super important. Whenever someone calls us the CFC I get a little bit more smug that I helped contribute, even if only a tiny amount, to giving that person something to hate that much. And if nothing else it helps out separate the pants on head guys from relevant enemies. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Xeno Szenn Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 28	Posted - 2016.03.29 14:37:32 - [285] - Quote Honestly beside the op i havn;t seen any tears in here just discussion. I hope we can keep having a dialog about the mecahnics becuse at the end of the day were all just people playing a game and sharing a hobby we enjoy.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 14:53:08 - [286] - Quote After that entosis multibox op, I also decided to pick a system and live in it to rat for ADMs. Living in sov you own should come naturally for a lot of people but I don't rat, so it's a bit of a chore for me. I hate the entosis grind but I gave in and realized the best way to go forward was building up ADMs to prevent entosis whack-a-mole from happening so often. In the meantime, entosis node gameplay is completely detached and needs some UI improvements: The three-character node identifier is at the end of the name field when it should be at the beginning so you don't have to stretch overview twice as far. Coordinating node hacks by chat window is freaking impossible. There should be a constellation node dashboard for all to see, so that in order to command entosis gangs across a constellation, an FC doesn't need an alt per system. This dashboard should show the current node timer of all nodes per system, or by TCU / Ihub. There should be a projected completion percentage showing the progress that will result from currently running entosis hacks. We're constantly having to tally how many nodes are being hacked to stop short of hacking extra nodes. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 14:59:07 - [287] - Quote I don't understand why nodes have to spawn all over a constellation. It would be more conducive to the large single-grid battles everyone enjoys if it was just that structure (Ihub or TCU) that needed X number of entosis miinutes applied to it. If you require players travel all over a constellation, you can potentially have a standoffish node hacking race that actually isn't satisfying. Get rid of whack-a-mole. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 15:00:45 - [288] - Quote "who's doing the hacking? Primary is that guy." is actually a great addition to grid warfare. It used to be suicide triage repping a structure. With entosis everyone can get in on it who can fit the module. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Aiwha Infinite Point Violence of Action. 1010	Posted - 2016.03.29 16:58:52 - [289] - Quote I thought the imperium thing died with the book. Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Eli Apol Definitely a nullsec alt 541	Posted - 2016.03.29 17:27:35 - [290] - Quote CFC was a name that summed up the culture of no fucks given. Imperium was where Mittens just monetised you all and your safe ratting space as you became invested in the game that you originally sought to ruin for all of us...I really wouldn't be feeling smug about that Lucas. but what would I know, I'm just a salvager

Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7443	Posted - 2016.03.29 19:21:16 - [291] - Quote Eli Apol wrote: CFC was a name that summed up the culture of no fucks given. Imperium was where Mittens just monetised you all and your safe ratting space as you became invested in the game that you originally sought to ruin for all of us...I really wouldn't be feeling smug about that Lucas. Imperium was just a natural evolution, there's only so long that a name that makes 14 year old r/eve poster chuckle is suitable, and that had to be replaced with a name that was more socially acceptable. The fact that the name changed doesn't make me smug, the fact that some people are so mad that they sit around stamping their feet and refusing to call the Imperium by their actual name, that carries a bit of smug with it. When someone attempt to attack you by acting like a child, yo know you've really hit them deep. It may be that you actually know this, but just in case you are being deadly serious I'll explain it. The phrase is "We're not here to ruin the game, we're here to ruin YOUR game". Imperium members love eve, that's why they put in so much time and effort playing it, so noone has any interest it destroying EVE. The phrase is a taunt, that's all it is. Just like how in any other game players who play to win will do so by any means within the mechanics, even if they are considered cheap (like when people repeatedly use the same move in a fighting game). EVE just has a more flexible set of mechanics and ways to really annoy enemies. Play any competitive online game and the situation will be the same. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Seven Koskanaiken FinFleet Northern Coalition. 1708	Posted - 2016.03.29 20:58:22 - [292] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: I don't understand why nodes have to spawn all over a constellation. It would be more conducive to the large single-grid battles everyone enjoys if it was just that structure (Ihub or TCU) that needed X number of entosis miinutes applied to it. If you require players travel all over a constellation, you can potentially have a standoffish node hacking race that actually isn't satisfying. Get rid of whack-a-mole. We used to have single grid fights but then someone lost 300 dreadnoughts in HED-GP before they even loaded grid, then claimed the game "forced them to do it since that's the thing that works best", then many cried and made a racket on the forums and threatened to unsub unless CCP fixed it so that the optimal strategy wasn't to jump 300 dreadnoughts into a single grid. So that's what CCP did.
Eli Apol Definitely a nullsec alt 542	Posted - 2016.03.29 21:15:29 - [293] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: snip I just prefer typing three letters instead of eight... And imp isn't nearly malevolent enough to sum you up. but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
Seven Koskanaiken FinFleet Northern Coalition. 1708	Posted - 2016.03.29 21:19:44 - [294] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: the fact that some people are so mad that they sit around stamping their feet and refusing to call the Imperium by their actual name, that carries a bit of smug with it. When someone attempt to attack you by acting like a child, yo know you've really hit them deep.. ncdock lololololol black fleegion lolololol dockness lololol kadeshit lolololol CFC omg don't be so childish call us by our proper name!!
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 21:49:24 - [295] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: Rain6637 wrote: I don't understand why nodes have to spawn all over a constellation. It would be more conducive to the large single-grid battles everyone enjoys if it was just that structure (Ihub or TCU) that needed X number of entosis miinutes applied to it. If you require players travel all over a constellation, you can potentially have a standoffish node hacking race that actually isn't satisfying. Get rid of whack-a-mole. Because someone lost 300 dreadnoughts in HED-GP before they even loaded grid by jumping them all in at once, then claimed the game "forced them to do it since that's the thing that works best", then many cried and made a racket on the forums and threatened to unsub unless CCP fixed it so that the optimal strategy wasn't to jump 1000 ships into a single grid. So that's what CCP did. I doubt it. When we ask for node reinforcement, apparently only one system (not the whole constellation) gets reinforced, like what happened yesterday with M-O and the neighboring systems. I had two clients open in J-GAMP and one was a minute ahead of the other. Also jump fatigue. They would have to assume we'd still cyno ourselves around a constellation despite fatigue to make such a big decision based on cynos. It's unlikely. I think it has more to do with wanting to force everyone through repeated chokepoints to make sure the fighting is down to the last person standing. It's a nice thought on paper and I agree with the idea, the problem is it makes gameplay worse and tedious and detached (people don't know wtf is going on). Players are very clear about wanting single-point confrontations and I think in this case they're right about knowing what they want. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 21:50:59 - [296] - Quote I will say CFC is the type of name that lowers expectations, which I like. I'm a low expectations kind of guy. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 21:52:02 - [297] - Quote Not everyone understands the psychological value of that, though. In contrast, Imperium is a blowhard name. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 7443	Posted - 2016.03.29 22:00:54 - [298] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: the fact that some people are so mad that they sit around stamping their feet and refusing to call the Imperium by their actual name, that carries a bit of smug with it. When someone attempt to attack you by acting like a child, yo know you've really hit them deep.. ncdock lololololol black fleegion lolololol dockness lololol kadeshit lolololol CFC omg don't be so childish* call us by our proper name* Except that wouldn't be it, since those are plays on the names, so the Imperium version you would be looking for is "Emporium". People refusing to let go of CFC aren't using a play on the name, they are actively showing how salty they are that a group they hate dared to change it's name, and it's funny as ****. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33487	Posted - 2016.03.29 22:19:31 - [299] - Quote The difference is the CFC is an enemy that can never change because it is in the past and unmoving. Unlesssss you want to rewrite history. Could that be the case? Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Seven Koskanaiken FinFleet Northern Coalition. 1709	Posted - 2016.03.29 22:24:53 - [300] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Seven Koskanaiken wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: the fact that some people are so mad that they sit around stamping their feet and refusing to call the Imperium by their actual name, that carries a bit of smug with it. When someone attempt to attack you by acting like a child, yo know you've really hit them deep.. ncdock lololololol black fleegion lolololol dockness lololol kadeshit lolololol CFC omg don't be so childish* call us by our proper name* Except that wouldn't be it, since those are plays on the names, so the Imperium version you would be looking for is "Emporium". People refusing to let go of CFC aren't using a play on the name, they are actively showing how salty they are that a group they hate dared to change it's name, and it's funny as ****. Oh so calling them kadeshit was actually a display of wit and not "attempting to attack by acting like a child". Well, thanks for that clarification.



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