Can you explain wtf
the
Siren Warp Disruptor
Cenobite Neutralizer
and all of those modules actually are?
I haven't been on SiSi if they are their and
I understand SiSi is quite buggy.

Can you explain?

List of bonuses that are more interesting than 2.5% dmg/level:

5% dmg/lvl
7.5(10)% interceptor squadron damage bonus/lvl
5(7.5, 10)% interceptor squadron speed
5(10, 15)% reduced capacitor need for mwd/lvl
5% speed/lvl
10% shield boost amount/lvl
10% reduced capacitor need for capital armor repairers/lvl




If you got ideas, expand it!

So we're going to need to get back to hisec to purchase the book before being able to use the stuff we can already fly? I thought that was something that you guys specifically always tried to avoid?

I don't mind the training time too much as long as there's an additional benefit to it, but I do mind two days of jump cloning and the added expense to continue flying something we already use.

What about people living in carriers built in W-space, for example?

Maybe look into injecting the skill at rank 0 for people who have fighters trained?

yes i was referring towards PvP... not that they got used much before either in all honesty

So the fighter damage is still as low as it was before, and there still is this huge imbalance between fighters, meaning firbolgs are the best and everything else is crap if you do not rely on a certain damage type.

Look at Navigation Computer vs Damage Amplfier for example. 30% velocity Bonus and 20.5 % damage increase for the TII variant. And usually you fit more DDA than navs.
So why should it be fair if for example Firbolgs do 22% more damage then Einhejri and Einherji are 22% faster? Or that Firbolgs have 16% more damage than Templar, and Templar are 16% faster? Damage is more valueable, you should cut the difference in damage in half.


And as already mentioned in the last thread, fighters do significantly less damage than on tranq. Now carriers lost the support ability and also get a dps nerf? That still doesnt make much sense.

the nid has become an amazing tackle capital and you wont understand just how valuable that speed bnonuse to fighters is untill you see how limited fighter range really is

also why can you only launch two combat squads all carriers can launch 3

What was the reasoning for lowering the thanatos dps bonus (from 5 to 2.5%)
Why not up the dps to 4% per level same as the resist bonus on archon and chimera, then you wouldnt have to choose between 20% more resists or 150-300 dps more.

I don't think that 3 fighters will withstand a lot of pressure.

What do you mean

Yes. The books have been seeded on Sisi for a month now though...so you have plenty of time :)

I mean that i don't think that some small **** with 15k EHP will last long if it's far away from the safety of a hangar.
Your tackle squadrons will get shot down in no-time.

why would you give a bonus to range and not a bonus to strength? unless this takes you out of smartbomb range, which im pretty sure none of these orbit in smart bomb range to begin with, this bonus is worthless?

the only worthwhile one is MAYBE the point range from the thannatos.
25% extra range on jams or webs or neuts really means nothing. a bonus to strength would actually give you a reason to fly these particular support fighters with their racial carrier, as it stands now, this range bonus does nothing to encourage you to use your races support fighter.

lol a lot of ppl seem to think the point drones are worth anything

your in a capital your support fleet should have plenty of long points not a single E-war drone is worth the hanger space and giving up 1/3 of your DPS except in a select few cases.

in short all the e-war fighters are about as useful as the e-war drones

Except you have 2 dedicated DPS fighter tubes and 1 dedicated support fighter tube.

You can't use 3 DPS wings at the same time.

Except you have 2 dedicated DPS fighter tubes and 1 dedicated support fighter tube.

You can't use 3 DPS wings at the same time.

This has been debunked already.
You can use 3 DPS Squadrons at the same time.


On the Nid:
Yeah, no, you're not going to go 2km/s anymore.
The "old", as in: the current, Nidhoggur gets up to 1800m/s hot with HG snakes and double Nano pre links.
It's basespeed is getting nerfed significantly, this alone will cut 300m/s. It's mass is getting increased significantly, this will put it down by probably another 100m/s or so. So, with skirmish links, you'll probably go 1700 or so HOT, and we all know how fast heated propmods burn out, especially if you have to cycle it three times in a row just to actually get to topspeed...

Take a second to look at stats past bonuses before giving your 2 cents


The nid and the than have much larger done bays and can each get well over 1mill ehp

These ships are no longer built to contend in capital fights so the extra tank on the archon and chimera don't mean much as they don't need to tank capital dps and you can kill all of their fighters b4 you kill them. That 2.5 damage bonus is also a 2.5speed/tank making your fighters much harder to kill



As it is Archons ate almost useless and chimera ate not much better when it comes to filling the anti sub cap role (Tbh they all suck) but at least the than and nid have a chance to get some semblance of dps

This has been debunked already.
You can use 3 DPS Squadrons at the same time.

Unless the math I've seen is wrong, the archon will both outdamage AND outtank a thanny/nid.

I like the fact that you're taking away literally every reason there is to fly a carrier for those that can afford supercarriers.

There's nothing distinctive or better about carriers in this patch except that they're somewhat cheaper and proportionally crappier and oh here's a bonus to ewar effects on fighters that will get within range anyway and make the bonus pointless.

Dear CCP Larrikin,

..
The Archon can get the Thanny's tank using only 5 slots, if the Thanny uses all 6. This leaves the Archon with either 2 DDAs, which will be significantly stronger than the measly 12.5% the Thanny gets as skillbonus, or it simply fits more tank. A lot more.