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panman
The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.18 18:19:00 -
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IM ON MY WAY TO RIT-A7 TO CLOAK AFK FOR THE NEXT MONTH, THAT IS WHAT YOU GET FOR CRYING ON EVE-O FORUMS
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.18 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: panman IM ON MY WAY TO RIT-A7 TO CLOAK AFK FOR THE NEXT MONTH, THAT IS WHAT YOU GET FOR CRYING ON EVE-O FORUMS
pwned ----------
IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! No such thing as griefing in Eve |
Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.18 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: panman IM ON MY WAY TO RIT-A7 TO CLOAK AFK FOR THE NEXT MONTH, THAT IS WHAT YOU GET FOR CRYING ON EVE-O FORUMS
I'll send a few of me along. Full region cover that way.
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.18 22:49:00 -
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The way I see it, afk cloakers can be a problem. I confess I have done this myself from time to time.
I can think of a couple of solutions.
1) Make it possible to probe cloaked ships. And make cloaks reduce your sig radius by a factor of 99%, making it much harder to scan down than normal ships. However, a cloaked recon ship with a pair of 10% speed rigs can move at over 300m/s while cloaked. If someone did manage to probe him down, it would take more than 7 seconds to warp to his location. So when you arrived, the arazu would be more than 2000m away and you wouldn't break his cloak.
2) Hide cloakers from local. This way, the local population won't get all paranoid that there's a red in local. This is my preferred solution . --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.02.18 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Fantome Little story.. : One arazu and one abbadon were playing that game in one of our system : both cloacked, waiting a target in belt or afk. During 2 days they got some peeps, third days we successuly traped them with a nice Bait, arazu was pod killed, abbadon got some luck and escaped : we never saw them coming back.
So, you can get them if you take the time to organize your peeps, if you want only safe/carebear stuff : go to safe empire.
And that's a wrap on this thread. Next?
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Crimson Tides
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Posted - 2007.02.19 04:00:00 -
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I've had my share of experience dealing with cloakers, be them afk or currently active. There is not a way of knowing which (Other then seeing one actively moving around). I've only lost one ship (Covetor) to a cloaker who caught me off guard, and since then have learnt my lesson to be prepared. If leaving the system is not an option figure out ways around being caught, i did. I can happily mine on my own in 0.0 without having to worry about anything but rats. However, it is nice to be able to do some mining and ratting without being constantly on guard, so i propose this.
Would it be possible to flag players in local who have not initiated any kind of commands say after a 30 minute period or so. That way if people want to stay online all day cloaked outside a station they can, but other players can know they haven't done anything in a while.
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.19 04:11:00 -
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im not going to read anything in this thread, except, like, local goes both ways.
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Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.19 05:32:00 -
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Somthing's got to be done. Our gaming time is too precious to have it wasted by cowards who wont bring a fight to our roaming gang, and can just sit AFK in an outpost they built! They run NO RISK and NO CHANCE OF INTERCEPTION while we have to hang outside and look at the lights on their ugly station. This basically gives them a license to carebear in an entire area of space!
Just about everyone agrees this has got to stop.
<suggestion to implement a stupidly ridiculous idea, like docking queues so that the carebears in system can be blown up while waiting to dock>
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Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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matty01
Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.19 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist Somthing's got to be done. Our gaming time is too precious to have it wasted by cowards who wont bring a fight to our roaming gang, and can just sit AFK in an outpost they built! They run NO RISK and NO CHANCE OF INTERCEPTION while we have to hang outside and look at the lights on their ugly station. This basically gives them a license to carebear in an entire area of space!
Just about everyone agrees this has got to stop.
<suggestion to implement a stupidly ridiculous idea, like docking queues so that the carebears in system can be blown up while waiting to dock>
hahahaha __________________________
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.19 05:40:00 -
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AFK cloakers annoy the sh!t out of me. Its like those kids that buzz around you and touch you and then you say "stop touching me"
Then then buzz around you almost touching you whilst saying "I'm not touching you"
Let us find the idle cloaker dammit
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Jr Grae
Gallente House 0f Shadows
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Posted - 2007.02.19 05:58:00 -
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I'd just like to point out that in four pages of replies, the OP is no where to be found.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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GO MaZ
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.02.19 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist Somthing's got to be done. Our gaming time is too precious to have it wasted by cowards who wont bring a fight to our roaming gang, and can just sit AFK in an outpost they built! They run NO RISK and NO CHANCE OF INTERCEPTION while we have to hang outside and look at the lights on their ugly station. This basically gives them a license to carebear in an entire area of space!
Just about everyone agrees this has got to stop.
<suggestion to implement a stupidly ridiculous idea, like docking queues so that the carebears in system can be blown up while waiting to dock>
/agree
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.19 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: Sadist Somthing's got to be done. Our gaming time is too precious to have it wasted by cowards who wont bring a fight to our roaming gang, and can just sit AFK in an outpost they built! They run NO RISK and NO CHANCE OF INTERCEPTION while we have to hang outside and look at the lights on their ugly station. This basically gives them a license to carebear in an entire area of space!
Just about everyone agrees this has got to stop.
<suggestion to implement a stupidly ridiculous idea, like docking queues so that the carebears in system can be blown up while waiting to dock>
/agree
i agree with this guy, even though it may or may not go against my previous post, because i like his name.
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Drosssk
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.19 07:18:00 -
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please stop the whining.
If you are the kind of person who can't bear to carry on your Eve existence when anyone is in local watching you, then go back to empire. If the person is cloaked afk in your system, either stay docked forever or carry on. __________________
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Kadreal
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Posted - 2007.02.19 07:22:00 -
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Oh no it's a threat! I find that's what makes this game appealing, anything and everything can be a threat, you never know when a fleet of battleships will warp in on you, or when local will jump by 40. Keeps you on your toes and keeps me on an adrenal high, I like it. It'd be a very boring place without any possibility of threats... it'd be like.. like empire in an npc corp! GASP!
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.19 07:43:00 -
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AFK cloakers are the only weapon pirates have against people who INSTANTLY log out whenever any non-blue enters their system.
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Jenavian Charto
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Posted - 2007.02.19 08:34:00 -
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Why worry about AFK players? It's the non-AFK players that I worry about. They're the real blight that should be dealt with.
Permaban all non-AFK players now!!! You know it makes sense.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.02.19 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: panman IM ON MY WAY TO RIT-A7 TO CLOAK AFK FOR THE NEXT MONTH, THAT IS WHAT YOU GET FOR CRYING ON EVE-O FORUMS
Caps lock is cruise control for cool. http://jamesbanks.org/pyconduct%20copy.jpg
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Devie Viviem
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.02.20 02:17:00 -
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I think I missed the post where BoB/Dev's say..."it's OK, your our pet...we'll take care of you"
Quit your complaining and have a quick reaction group that sit and wait.....or move the hell out of 0.0
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Aegirhawk
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Posted - 2007.02.20 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: vipeer I nominate this thread the EVE-O whine thread of the year
Why?
1. Let's face it. The OP is complaining about one pilot against his whole alliance 2. The alliance in question has more than one pilot so they should be able to fend off a lone cov ops. 3. He is whining that people are there to kill him and his mates. Duh. It's 0.0 space so that's kinda the point of the space itself 4. RISE did NOTHING to gain the area of space they occupy now. 5. They are a soft target and griefers should look for easy targets in RIT triangle because there are a LOT. 6. He pays the rent to his slave masters which in turn promised to protect him but they lied so now he's crying a river here instead of taking his complaint to the people to whom he gives his isk. 7. They are funding BOD wars.
I am sure someone can add t the list. I for one gotta run now. RL calling.
I so agree
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.20 02:56:00 -
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I've lost count the number of times I've been petitioned while flying my covert and I'm hardly ever afk for more than 10 minutes at a time.
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2007.02.20 04:07:00 -
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Perfect example of how carebear 0.0 space has become. People are so used to knowing the pipe is camped and they can safely do what ever they want with out risk, so much that they whine when 1 cloaked ship is possibly watching them potentially being a threat of attack...
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MuthaTrucka
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.02.20 04:22:00 -
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I'm Not AFK I am ignoring you. Big Difference
--------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
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Logan Weavend
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 08:30:00 -
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I'm sure there are plenty of people who would gladly occupy the space without complaint if all they have to do to get it is deal with a few cloakers. I think the simplest solution for the OPs problem is for him and his buddies to just leave. --------------- So what, I popped a few pirate pods; so what I have a bad security status? Pirates deserve to be podded you fools, sometimes you have to play dirty to beat 'em! Rock on state! |
Raneru
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 09:04:00 -
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Props to the CLS guys, it sounds like your campaign is having an effect.
Not sure what the OP is worried about (apart from paying the monthly tax). You guys have traps set for the cloakers and YOUR OWN recons setting them. That seems pretty fair to me.
btw, dont complain the recons never leave when you have the only exit gate for the constellation bubbled with 5 bubbles 24/7 ;)
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Ishmael Hansen
No Quarter. C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:21:00 -
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My only problem with cloakers is that they all wussie to engage anything that can shoot back, and pilgrims are way overpowered. Rather then that I'm ok, and don't make cloaked ships probable, that will ruin the entire purpose of a cloak.
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Mymh Heretache
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Posted - 2007.03.19 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: Mymh Heretache on 19/03/2007 00:51:03 Edited by: Mymh Heretache on 19/03/2007 00:49:58
Originally by: Ishmael Hansen My only problem with cloakers is that they all wussie to engage anything that can shoot back, and pilgrims are way overpowered. Rather then that I'm ok, and don't make cloaked ships probable, that will ruin the entire purpose of a cloak.
So you suggest they'd be for intel only?
Agree that stealth bombers used to be overpowered 1.5 years+ ago but that was taken care of. I see alot of weaknesses in my recons, as well as strengths. Same goes with other races' recons. Personally I find Rapier much more annoying than the Pilgrim, but neither of them is that hard to beat with a semi-simple strat (bait-/traps works wonder).
I love how you call it wusstactics. I see recons going up solo against battleships. And I also know about recons that is pimped way past the billion mark fitted, would love to hear why you think that ship should risk attacking anything but easy prey, and why it shouldn't be able to pop something. Wussie2; My Pilgrim is using drones for damage, it's good to use with nos and target disruptors. You say "wussie to engage anything that can shoot back". Well, think I'd send in this ship vs a missile/drone boat with a non-cap-dependant ship like a Raven? Of course I pick my target and go for a turret based ship that my drones/nosses own. Of course you will feel owned. Because I am cloaked an can chose my target, that's the whole idea.. I can't fight everyone.
My Pilgrim is fairly cheap fitted, still the cloak + ship + fitting combined make it cost about the double from a Zealot + fitting. If it'd only be useful for scouting I'd be pretty ****ed tbh. I like to pop frigs/cruisers in it. Annoys my victims, and give me a giggle.
Another aspect is regarding the people here posting about AFK-cloaking being 'exploits' as well as 'harrassment'. Well, ever considered that it might be a strategy? We have 2-3 hostiles in my home territory that fly stealth bombers and recons. They're online about 12/24, camping the same systems, daily. Guess how often they attack? But when they do, they succeed. As well as they give intel to our enemies. I fail to see any exploit or harrassment for spending hours just to get a kill. If anything, it's a nice waste of time and quite possibly stupid, but it's still a tactic.
I love my recons but honestly I get very few kills from them. They are way too expensive and quite vulnerable so I have to pick my target, as well as spend alot of time just waiting/jumping, so mostly I rather go around in t1 frigs/cruisers.
Just learn to mine/rat with friends nearby to support you if you get attacked. Simple as that. Every 0.0 corp/alliance has some basic kind of defence, if you fail already there then you won't stay in 0.0 for long.
Bah, too long, just happen to wish me spending almost half my skillpoints to perfect 2 ships (Pilgrim, Curse), and alot of my isk on them, wasn't a waste.
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flaming phantom
Minmatar Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.03.19 01:25:00 -
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i say keep it as it is
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Trev Kachanov
STK Scientific INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.19 11:21:00 -
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It's a legitimate tactic. during the BoB ASCN war there was like 1 guy with a rapier and arazu that camped near lx5 24/7 he single handidly stopped all ratting and mining in lower paragon, it's a legitimate tactic. It sucks, deal with it bait them kill them, support your mops with combat ships, get your ratters to gang together to assist each other in trouble... 5 ratting ravens are deadly =)
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Ogul
Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Trev Kachanov It's a legitimate tactic.
I don't think that a single pilot who is not even in front of his client should be able to make mining/ratting that much more difficult. (Risk vs. reward anyone?)
What's next, gatecamp-macros?
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