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Einheriar Ulrich Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:17:00 - [751] Originally by: Rangar This was the 3rd (if you count the unfinished also) titan in the game lost due to cheat/exploit/bug. Seems to be the only way, how titans are killed in EVE. And a GM congratulating BoB in local for killing a titan due to such a lame tactics shows, that CCP has not the slightest clue, that the game is going downhill very fast. Maybe its going downhill, because of all your conspiracy theories and whine whine whine.
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:21:00 - [752] Edited by: HankMurphy on 17/02/2007 01:17:37 Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich Originally by: Rangar This was the 3rd (if you count the unfinished also) titan in the game lost due to cheat/exploit/bug. Seems to be the only way, how titans are killed in EVE. And a GM congratulating BoB in local for killing a titan due to such a lame tactics shows, that CCP has not the slightest clue, that the game is going downhill very fast. Maybe its going downhill, because of all your conspiracy theories and whine whine whine. QFFT, i've never seen anything so PATHETIC as these last few days of whining in almost 3 years of eve. Its one thing to smack a bit, be a little arrogent/cocky, but for gods sakes, if they would just listen to themselves before they posted...... christ, if its THAT BAD in your eye's guys, go play WoW! The coalition, or bandwagon, or whatever really showing what they made of on the forums, thats for sure.
Demoria Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:23:00 - [753] i lub isszz ------------------------------------------ i am the flying moo ham edd
Weatherman Gallente Xoth Inc	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:35:00 - [754] In reality, if you've got a titan logged in and a substantial amount of alliance members engaged in combat, the titan ought to be aggressed because you are no doubt working closely with people who are engaged in combat. Simply being logged in with a titan during fleet ops could be conceived to be an act of agression. You don't log in with a titan to check prices in jita, after all. Logging in with one is a very deliberate act and people should know that if they do not do so carefully then they are likely to lose it. If you use game mechanics to kill someone who was very likely to attack you if given the chance, I don't see the problem with that.
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:40:00 - [755]
Fitz Regal Invictus Unbowed	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:44:00 - [756] Originally by: Jin Entres "All warfare is based on dodgy game mechanics." "Attack him where he is logged off." -Sun Tzu, Art Of EvE War I updated it for you :)
Logi3 EVE Corporation 1631	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:45:00 - [757] Edited by: Logi3 on 17/02/2007 01:44:15 So many nobodies or or wannbies posting in these war threads.... bugger off and stop talking crap... Anyway.. Trouble is what BoB did i think should be deemed exploit. But, CCP have not classed it as an exploit so its fair game. And although i think it was lame, fair do's for pulling it off. Its actions like this that can win a war, although this war is far from over. Reformed Pirate
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:46:00 - [758] I think this is the final time for CCP to decide what sort of gameplay they want. Some nice pew pew or metagaming and stretching rules to their maximum and beyond. What do we want?
Fitz Regal Invictus Unbowed	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:50:00 - [759] Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich Originally by: Rangar This was the 3rd (if you count the unfinished also) titan in the game lost due to cheat/exploit/bug. Seems to be the only way, how titans are killed in EVE. And a GM congratulating BoB in local for killing a titan due to such a lame tactics shows, that CCP has not the slightest clue, that the game is going downhill very fast. Maybe its going downhill, because of all your conspiracy theories and whine whine whine. Maybe, but I know two guys quitting the game right now because they have lost all faith in ccp and eve, and these are not guys directly involved in this conflict but are long standing players, with many accounts between them, one of whom even travelled to the fan fest last year, i.e. hardcore eve players and fans that have just lost all faith in the game. You see this as a good thing? People "whine" (though everyone who posts the opposite view to someone else is seen by that person as a whiner) because they are frustrated, are not getting answers, almost every major loss seems to be more about lag and sploiting game mechanics than it does about playing the game straight.
Weatherman Gallente Xoth Inc	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:51:00 - [760] Quote: Anyway.. Trouble is what BoB did i think should be deemed exploit. how is it an exploit to attack someone before they log off? Should corps be able to keep titans always at the ready and just log them off whenever the situation looks bad?
Fitz Regal Invictus Unbowed	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:53:00 - [761] Originally by: Weatherman Quote: Anyway.. Trouble is what BoB did i think should be deemed exploit. how is it an exploit to attack someone before they log off? Should corps be able to keep titans always at the ready and just log them off whenever the situation looks bad? If they dont have a (genuine) aggression timer then yes ofc they should. its a game ffs - people have lives beyond it.
Shamus Kain	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:10:00 - [762] Originally by: Kozak CCP really has their heads up their asses to allow a Titan to get destroyed like this. Very poor show again CCP. Your right. The real way to kill a titan is to get 600 people in a system, crash it for 3 hours straight, and then kill the titan with 600 in 'local' and about 50 active ships logged in and responsive from both sides.
A Ma Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:14:00 - [763] D2's Titan, now IAC's Mothership, when will this carnage end ???? Carnage - Nyx - At least I have an opinion ....
Kylania Gallente Phoenix Industries	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:15:00 - [764] Originally by: Weatherman Quote: Anyway.. Trouble is what BoB did i think should be deemed exploit. how is it an exploit to attack someone before they log off? Should corps be able to keep titans always at the ready and just log them off whenever the situation looks bad? No one "attacked" him, a corp mate and gang mate hit him with friendly fire in order to abuse a game mechanic in order to allow BoB to kill a logged off titan, again. That's cheesy at best even though it might not technically be an "exploit". I'm quite sure that CCP didn't intended the ability to fire on corp mates as the method of killing a titan. Having a spy that close to a titan was genious on BoBs part. Had they waited till a fleet was somewhere and popped a cyno to fly in BoB's fleet, that would have been ballsy and well done. Had the spy been called main cyno for the titan and snuck off to a different area then called it safe and had the titan jump into a BoB camp, that too would have been class. But exploiting friendly fire to get an aggro timer so they could risk free kill a logged off titan? That's pure lame on BoB's part. While it might be a valid kill, it was way low class of BoB to resort to that kind of thing to kill another titan. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| How to Build from a BPO
Kay Han Caldari Stardust Heavy Industries Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:25:00 - [765] Edited by: Kay Han on 17/02/2007 02:22:21 from what i heared. Lucentis (DigitalCommunist) smartbombed the titan or shot at him, when WOTAN was about to log off to get an aggrotimer. Dunno if WOTAN already closed the game or not. if this kill is legit or not, its not my decision. Seconds after the titan was killed, a ccp employee logged into yz- and posted bull**** in local. Tinfoil any1? but if CCP want to see EvE going this way, with all this Crap happening, i¦m sure they can rename the game to BoB online. all opinions stated in the post above are my own and do NOT represent my alliance or Corp ___________________________________________ A wise man said once: 'Violence is the escape of the mentaly poor guys.'
Han Horensii Res Publica R i s e	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:28:00 - [766] Mmmm i just say shame on guys that blame Bob now that we know how exactly this happened. And ultimate shame on those who blame CCP, guys you'b better stop playing rather than trolling like that. This was a brilliant move BoB, very smart one !! Happy to be on their side...
DiuxDium Casting Shadows	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:30:00 - [767] Originally by: Kay Han Edited by: Kay Han on 17/02/2007 02:22:21 from what i heared. Lucentis (DigitalCommunist) smartbombed the titan or shot at him, when WOTAN was about to log off to get an aggrotimer. Dunno if WOTAN already closed the game or not. if this kill is legit or not, its not my decision. Seconds after the titan was killed, a ccp employee logged into yz- and posted bull**** in local. Tinfoil any1? but if CCP want to see EvE going this way, with all this Crap happening, i¦m sure they can rename the game to BoB online. all opinions stated in the post above are my own and do NOT represent my alliance or Corp you should wipe the tears out of your eyes if you're going to have a sig like that.
Han Horensii Res Publica R i s e	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:33:00 - [768] Originally by: Sorja If the the screenshot is legit, why would the cov ops pilot fire his smartbomb if he wasn't 100% sure Wotank was not in front of his keyboard anymore? Whether it was genuine infiltration or a bought character, having a 'spy' able to be in the same gang as the flagship of D2 was HIGHLY valuable. Firing his smartbomb and being noticed would have resulted in his immediate removal from his corp/alliance and BoB would have lost a master piece. So I'm convinced he only fired his smartie when he was sure the Titan was not under pilot control anymore. Whatever, this is clearly abusing game mechanics and should result in the ship replacement. BoB don't need underhanded tactics to win, do they? erm, if you turn off damage shown and if the bob spy used a micro smart bomb as it is now know, seriously, even if the titan pilot was online he would NEVER have noticed that on its hp status. Man you do know what is a titan hp??????
Kay Han Caldari Stardust Heavy Industries Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:34:00 - [769] Edited by: Kay Han on 17/02/2007 02:30:52 Originally by: DiuxDium you should wipe the tears out of your eyes if you're going to have a sig like that. i don¦t cry. after all a titan is only a ship. and ships can be replaced POINT. It¦s the circumstances. It¦s simply fact that bob acn¦t kill a titan in a fair fight. Sure it was a briliant move. perfectly planned. and we konw that it worked out Perfect. But maybe someday bob grow some balls and they will make a real titan kill. ___________________________________________ A wise man said once: 'Violence is the escape of the mentaly poor guys.'
Fenderson OLE Mining Corp Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:40:00 - [770] the game mechanics that allow bob to kill a titan in that way are no more "dodgy" or "exploity" than the game mechanics that allow titans to log off safely. you should be glad that they even allow titans do disappear in space when the pilot logs without agro timer. in my opinion, titan pilots should be forced to store their precious titan in a POS when they are offline so that they are voulnerable at all times. isnt that the whole point of disallowing them from docking at stations? got new corp, need new sig. mail me ingame.
Vesspasiano	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:46:00 - [771] Originally by: Kylania But exploiting friendly fire to get an aggro timer so they could risk free kill a logged off titan? That's pure lame on BoB's part. While it might be a valid kill, it was way low class of BoB to resort to that kind of thing to kill another titan. 100% agree
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:48:00 - [772] Originally by: Vesspasiano Originally by: Kylania But exploiting friendly fire to get an aggro timer so they could risk free kill a logged off titan? That's pure lame on BoB's part. While it might be a valid kill, it was way low class of BoB to resort to that kind of thing to kill another titan. 100% agree Same, its grounds to wipe the alliance off the map and run the leaders form EVE. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
NightmareX Caldari Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 03:02:00 - [773] Originally by: Vesspasiano Originally by: Kylania But exploiting friendly fire to get an aggro timer so they could risk free kill a logged off titan? That's pure lame on BoB's part. While it might be a valid kill, it was way low class of BoB to resort to that kind of thing to kill another titan. 100% agree 200% agree on that Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred
DiuxDium Casting Shadows	Posted - 2007.02.17 03:14:00 - [774] Edited by: DiuxDium on 17/02/2007 03:10:56 Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Originally by: Vesspasiano Originally by: Kylania But exploiting friendly fire to get an aggro timer so they could risk free kill a logged off titan? That's pure lame on BoB's part. While it might be a valid kill, it was way low class of BoB to resort to that kind of thing to kill another titan. 100% agree Same, its grounds to wipe the alliance off the map and run the leaders form EVE. You'd achieve quicker if you spent less time on the forums.
Shuriken Ertai Princeps Corp	Posted - 2007.02.17 03:17:00 - [775] The pvp timer was meant to stop people from logging in combat, not to force a pilot to stay in space forever.
Z33ro Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.17 03:37:00 - [776] Originally by: Vesspasiano Originally by: Kylania But exploiting friendly fire to get an aggro timer so they could risk free kill a logged off titan? That's pure lame on BoB's part. While it might be a valid kill, it was way low class of BoB to resort to that kind of thing to kill another titan. 100% agree Interesting, they killed D2 titan using their brains, I dont understand why u should sacrifice tons of ships to kill a titan when u can kill it in a more effic. way? I'm not sure if anyone of u here can think of this plan of killing a titan or even more to realise this plan. You should be able to analize the situation, the changes and so on, it's not that easy as you guys think. Well to play a massive online game is not only to pew pew, you also have to THINK, like a strategy, its not only to lock and f1-f8. You call it dirty and non-valid? well, show me a war (both eve and rl) that is PURE and so-called VALID? Btw, I dont think to seat, create tons of alts and spam anti-BoB propagandas is a good idea, eve is a game, so take it as a game pals, well D2 lose the titan, i'm very sorry for that, I know its a lot of hard works but that's already the past, you cannot bring it back by seating here and crying, swearing or watsoever. Take it as a good lesson not to be repeated anymore in the future, keep playing guys, too much of smacking in forum is not the best way to show the power, u better SHOW it ingame There are always 2 periods: rise and fall, fall and rise - so never give up!
Princess Aricia Gallente Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 03:46:00 - [777] Originally by: Vesspasiano Originally by: Kylania But exploiting friendly fire to get an aggro timer so they could risk free kill a logged off titan? That's pure lame on BoB's part. While it might be a valid kill, it was way low class of BoB to resort to that kind of thing to kill another titan. 100% agree Can BoB do anything that is not pure lame these days? All I see is cheating from those guys... And it's sad to see that GM's back them up. I know spying is a part of the game... It's still lame...
Angeles Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.02.17 03:52:00 - [778] Edited by: Angeles on 17/02/2007 03:50:19 well bob you still amaze me with your tactics that has less balls than a football match, why didnt you aggro him while he was still online? your spy has been unveiled now what difference would it have made, you could have atleast given it a proper fight instead of stabbing someone in the back. who does that? honestly. lame
BobGhengisKhan Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.02.17 03:56:00 - [779] Originally by: HankMurphy Edited by: HankMurphy on 17/02/2007 01:17:37 Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich Originally by: Rangar This was the 3rd (if you count the unfinished also) titan in the game lost due to cheat/exploit/bug. Seems to be the only way, how titans are killed in EVE. And a GM congratulating BoB in local for killing a titan due to such a lame tactics shows, that CCP has not the slightest clue, that the game is going downhill very fast. Maybe its going downhill, because of all your conspiracy theories and whine whine whine. QFFT, i've never seen anything so PATHETIC as these last few days of whining in almost 3 years of eve. Its one thing to smack a bit, be a little arrogent/cocky, but for gods sakes, if they would just listen to themselves before they posted...... christ, if its THAT BAD in your eye's guys, go play WoW! The coalition, or bandwagon, or whatever really showing what they made of on the forums, thats for sure. Again, quoted for emphasis. Welcome to Tards Online.
bulabuba Gallente Klima Galactic	Posted - 2007.02.17 03:58:00 - [780] Originally by: Z33ro Interesting, they killed D2 titan using their brains, I dont understand why u should sacrifice tons of ships to kill a titan when u can kill it in a more effic. way? Nobody has quarrel with them using their brains. The quarrel is with them getting the kill based on exploiting the game mechanics, insted of in a straight-up fight within the game. We should win or lose in the game, not by manipulating how the game is implemented to get an advantage. Frankly, it's really dumb of them to pull something like this right now. Sentiments against them are already incredibly high. This is just adding fuel to the fire. The cheap titan kill wasn't worth it, IMO. ----------------------------------------------- Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No. -DB Preacher[BoB]

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