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Grenadyr Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:12:00 - [721] Edited by: Grenadyr on 17/02/2007 00:11:29 Edited by: Grenadyr on 17/02/2007 00:10:57 Great Job guys! Wish Id been there!!!
Grenadyr Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:12:00 - [722] Edited by: Grenadyr on 17/02/2007 00:11:29 Edited by: Grenadyr on 17/02/2007 00:10:57 Great Job guys! Wish Id been there!!!
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:14:00 - [723] Originally by: Tunajuice This definitely puts a damper on the rabble rabble coalition... Does it now. I'll still be in your spaces, shootin your nooblets...
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:14:00 - [724] Originally by: Tunajuice This definitely puts a damper on the rabble rabble coalition... Does it now. I'll still be in your spaces, shootin your nooblets...
vile56 Nubs. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:16:00 - [725] this sounds alot like counter strike to me, with all the omghax crys. seems they can hax better than d2 so they win regardless
vile56 Nubs. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:16:00 - [726] this sounds alot like counter strike to me, with all the omghax crys. seems they can hax better than d2 so they win regardless
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:18:00 - [727] Hmm, must bug people for high-res fraps. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:18:00 - [728] Hmm, must bug people for high-res fraps. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:22:00 - [729] Originally by: Edde Bebbi Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 16/02/2007 23:21:21 Originally by: Sorja BoB don't need underhanded tactics to win, do they? Thats the quote of the game. Bob DO NOT need these tactics as they were most of the time better than any other alliance in this game. I dont know why they need it. And thats why i was questioning the real BoB progress in this game and what they really achieved. By real means nothing. But they could have so much w/o any of the above. Because you have organised a 30:1 alliance against them and killing your figurehead in the first weak of the war is a massive win however you try and spin it. If this had been Goon killing LVs titan or D2 killing BoBs, Every one of you flamers would be calling it awesome tactics and skill and shouting at CCP not to reimburse. Honestly, try and claim otherwise. Funny how these things work. I am also talking of the past, where G eg. was HEAVILY outnumbered by everyone. But i see from ur post that ur a nublet. 30 to 1 LOOOOOOL! Its carneval here, thanks for the gift, desperado --------------------------------
Edde Bebbi Amarr The Griffin	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:24:00 - [730] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Edde Bebbi Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 16/02/2007 23:21:21 Originally by: Sorja BoB don't need underhanded tactics to win, do they? Thats the quote of the game. Bob DO NOT need these tactics as they were most of the time better than any other alliance in this game. I dont know why they need it. And thats why i was questioning the real BoB progress in this game and what they really achieved. By real means nothing. But they could have so much w/o any of the above. Because you have organised a 30:1 alliance against them and killing your figurehead in the first weak of the war is a massive win however you try and spin it. If this had been Goon killing LVs titan or D2 killing BoBs, Every one of you flamers would be calling it awesome tactics and skill and shouting at CCP not to reimburse. Honestly, try and claim otherwise. Funny how these things work. I am also talking of the past, where G eg. was HEAVILY outnumbered by everyone. But i see from ur post that ur a nublet. 30 to 1 LOOOOOOL! Its carneval here, thanks for the gift, desperado Do you really want me to add up the players in all the alliances you are Napped with? It wont be 30:1 but itll be a hell of a lot more than 5:1
Dinamita Tona Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:25:00 - [731] Originally by: Superbus Maximus Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 16/02/2007 23:23:30 Originally by: Sorja Originally by: Lorth If the pilot was logged out, the smartbomb wouldn't have restarted anouther aggro timer. You may be right, I'm not sure about that. On the other hand, I'm sure that BoB always has the latest in highly specialized metagaming tactics. They must be geniuses to find all that by themselves, props for that Yes you must be a genius to think about using a smartbomb or ECM burst to aggress someone, if you don't want to or can't target him ... also to do it with a spy. Btw if everything happened out of the pos-shield, the kill seems ligit. If you want fair play, try to spread the message in your unholy coalition like the fofo-guys or the people, who try to kill BoB, LV and everyone else by causing our ears and brains to bleed with their never ending pathetic accusations, dev-smack and dev-whineage. k, only speaking for myself, have a nice day. Accusations huh? Well the titan kill was defantly legit, but what is this WTF! I would like to hear from the d2 thanatos pilot who was being shot while he was in the pos shields. You know if u take time to learn game mechanic u might realize that a Carrier, person A standing on point X in front of POS shield and being shot by person B and person C and persons X in front (OUTSIDE) POS shield is all fair and square. Then Person A moves inside of the shield. Person B and C and X lose lock regardless of passive targeters or anything they might have fitted on their ships. But Torpedoes, like, i heared was case with D2 carrier, WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE TOWARD TARGET EVEN IF TARGET IS INSIDE OF SHIELD AND EVEN IF PERSONS B AND C AND X LOST LOCK. Last round fired of torpedoes went into shield and hited carrier ie person A who in all his fear and dumbness and not knowing game mechanics panicked (Insert: OMFG HAXORZ THEY SHOOT IN POS XPLOITS IM GONNA DIE) and foolishly warped to a planet where he was LEGIT killed by BoB. kthxby
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:25:00 - [732] Originally by: Superbus Maximus Accusations huh? Well the titan kill was defantly legit, but what is this WTF! I would like to hear from the d2 thanatos pilot who was being shot while he was in the pos shields. If you target someone whose outside of the shield the lock wont break when he enters it. Other then that theres not supposed to be a way to lock someone inside a shield. ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:26:00 - [733] Originally by: Edde Bebbi Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Edde Bebbi Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 16/02/2007 23:21:21 Originally by: Sorja BoB don't need underhanded tactics to win, do they? Thats the quote of the game. Bob DO NOT need these tactics as they were most of the time better than any other alliance in this game. I dont know why they need it. And thats why i was questioning the real BoB progress in this game and what they really achieved. By real means nothing. But they could have so much w/o any of the above. Because you have organised a 30:1 alliance against them and killing your figurehead in the first weak of the war is a massive win however you try and spin it. If this had been Goon killing LVs titan or D2 killing BoBs, Every one of you flamers would be calling it awesome tactics and skill and shouting at CCP not to reimburse. Honestly, try and claim otherwise. Funny how these things work. I am also talking of the past, where G eg. was HEAVILY outnumbered by everyone. But i see from ur post that ur a nublet. 30 to 1 LOOOOOOL! Its carneval here, thanks for the gift, desperado Do you really want me to add up the players in all the alliances you are Napped with? It wont be 30:1 but itll be a hell of a lot more than 5:1 yes plz, mr. mathematics and i want to be kewl on teh forums! tell me the REAL TRUTH! But dont forget bob allies. --------------------------------
Charly Quickfire Mindless Destruction	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:27:00 - [734] Interesting times. Originally by: Bellon The way I heard it, BoB killed the D2 titan as a direct response to Shin Ra's post. See, forums kill stuff.
Chuck Dawg Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:27:00 - [735] I'll put down 1bil isk that D2 get it back due to exploit.
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:28:00 - [736] Originally by: Chuck Dawg I'll put down 1bil isk that D2 get it back due to exploit. If they dont i am takeing you up on that. Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Edde Bebbi Amarr The Griffin	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:29:00 - [737] Originally by: bulabuba Originally by: Aries Acheron Well. This seems to be the case. This screenshot I got from another thread shows how it was done. http://shadowforce.wiredhub.net/bob/2007.02.16.17.58.48.jpg Apparently, a member of the Titan's own gang in a covert ops waited for the Titan to go outside of the shield, then smartbombed it with a micro, giving it aggro as it logged. The Titan zoomed off, and BoB probed. There's no passive targetter there, and given that the titan was POSed up, wreck aggro doesn't look like it's involved. A painful blow and one reason why I hate spies in any sense, but it seems 'legit' as far as claims of hacking or bugs go. If it's legit morally.. well. It's effectively the same thing as what happened to Cyvok's it seems... That's an exploit. In other words, the game is not intended to work that way, and taking advantage of the fact that it does, rather than reporting the error, is exploiting. When you close the window, you're done. You should not be aggro-able at that instant if you aren't already. You are out of the game. The fact that your ship warps off is only there as a measure to take you out of harm's way in case of a crash. The aggro timer is only there to ensure that you can't save yourself by closing the window ONCE YOU ALREADY HAVE AGGRO. If that's how it was done, the man deserves his ship back, and CCP needs to fix the bug after admonishing some folks that exploiting bugs rather than reporting them is a no-no. He was aggrod before logging off. Eve IS intended to work this way.
Edde Bebbi Amarr The Griffin	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:29:00 - [738] Originally by: Chuck Dawg I'll put down 1bil isk that D2 get it back due to exploit. Ill take it. There was no exploit and D2 arnt claiming there was.
vile56 Nubs. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:30:00 - [739] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Edde Bebbi Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Edde Bebbi Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 16/02/2007 23:21:21 Originally by: Sorja BoB don't need underhanded tactics to win, do they? Thats the quote of the game. Bob DO NOT need these tactics as they were most of the time better than any other alliance in this game. I dont know why they need it. And thats why i was questioning the real BoB progress in this game and what they really achieved. By real means nothing. But they could have so much w/o any of the above. Because you have organised a 30:1 alliance against them and killing your figurehead in the first weak of the war is a massive win however you try and spin it. If this had been Goon killing LVs titan or D2 killing BoBs, Every one of you flamers would be calling it awesome tactics and skill and shouting at CCP not to reimburse. Honestly, try and claim otherwise. Funny how these things work. I am also talking of the past, where G eg. was HEAVILY outnumbered by everyone. But i see from ur post that ur a nublet. 30 to 1 LOOOOOOL! Its carneval here, thanks for the gift, desperado Do you really want me to add up the players in all the alliances you are Napped with? It wont be 30:1 but itll be a hell of a lot more than 5:1 yes plz, mr. mathematics and i want to be kewl on teh forums! tell me the REAL TRUTH! But dont forget bob allies. this is very much like counter strike, 12yr old smack and useing k for c
Hennry Fromer Gallente radiated space gerbils	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:31:00 - [740] Originally by: batloard well d2 are saying the titan was sitting in a pos for around 3 hours and was not agressed, he jump bridged some ships to yz and shortly logged off, and bob proceeded to kill him in this state. All it wouldve took was someone to shoot one wreck, or even his own guys shooting him to get him agressed before he logged. A titan is a big target so there is a small chance someone shot at him somewhere. IS the act of jumping a fleet somehow a hostile act - putting them into position to fight?
DiuxDium Casting Shadows	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:32:00 - [741] Originally by: Chuck Dawg I'll put down 1bil isk that D2 get it back due to exploit. Quoting this to remind my self. The bet is on.
Sionn Klorgh Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:33:00 - [742] Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 17/02/2007 00:29:37 Was there not a GM in local that congratulated BOB on the kill? Perhaps he can fill everyone in on the details.
Edde Bebbi Amarr The Griffin	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:34:00 - [743] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 17/02/2007 00:29:37 Was there not a GM in local that congratulated BOB on the kill? Perhaps he can fill everyone in on the details. I love how people just make stuff up (well done to the TCF guy for this one) and then everyone believes it. OMG HAX. We have seen the screenshots that show EXACTLY how the titan was killed. How can there be any more debate?
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:37:00 - [744] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Was there not a GM in local that congratulated BOB on the kill? Perhaps he can fill everyone in on the details. No, the GM talked in BoB alliance chat (sorry, couldn't resist, have no clue hehe)
mccoolexe	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:42:00 - [745] sorry about the titan loss D2 Mcc
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:53:00 - [746] Originally by: vile56 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Edde Bebbi Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Edde Bebbi Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 16/02/2007 23:21:21 Originally by: Sorja BoB don't need underhanded tactics to win, do they? Thats the quote of the game. Bob DO NOT need these tactics as they were most of the time better than any other alliance in this game. I dont know why they need it. And thats why i was questioning the real BoB progress in this game and what they really achieved. By real means nothing. But they could have so much w/o any of the above. Because you have organised a 30:1 alliance against them and killing your figurehead in the first weak of the war is a massive win however you try and spin it. If this had been Goon killing LVs titan or D2 killing BoBs, Every one of you flamers would be calling it awesome tactics and skill and shouting at CCP not to reimburse. Honestly, try and claim otherwise. Funny how these things work. I am also talking of the past, where G eg. was HEAVILY outnumbered by everyone. But i see from ur post that ur a nublet. 30 to 1 LOOOOOOL! Its carneval here, thanks for the gift, desperado Do you really want me to add up the players in all the alliances you are Napped with? It wont be 30:1 but itll be a hell of a lot more than 5:1 yes plz, mr. mathematics and i want to be kewl on teh forums! tell me the REAL TRUTH! But dont forget bob allies. this is very much like counter strike, 12yr old smack and useing k for c And what do you have to contribute? --------------------------------
Boci The Legion.	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:54:00 - [747] Originally by: Hennry Fromer Originally by: batloard well d2 are saying the titan was sitting in a pos for around 3 hours and was not agressed, he jump bridged some ships to yz and shortly logged off, and bob proceeded to kill him in this state. All it wouldve took was someone to shoot one wreck, or even his own guys shooting him to get him agressed before he logged. A titan is a big target so there is a small chance someone shot at him somewhere. IS the act of jumping a fleet somehow a hostile act - putting them into position to fight? Did everyone somehow miss the post, from D2, saying that there was nothing "shady" used to cause the kill? Or the screenshot of the micro smartbomb hitting the titan in the first place? Get over it. BoB thought ahead and had scouts/spies in probable escape locations ready for the titan to jump. It paid off, get used to it.
Man1ac Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:55:00 - [748] Originally by: Dinamita Tona ... If you want fair play, try to spread the message in your unholy coalition like the fofo-guys or the people, who try to kill BoB, LV and everyone else by causing our ears and brains to bleed with their never ending pathetic accusations, dev-smack and dev-whineage. k, only speaking for myself, have a nice day. Accusations huh? Well the titan kill was defantly legit, but what is this WTF! I would like to hear from the d2 thanatos pilot who was being shot while he was in the pos shields. You know if u take time to learn game mechanic u might realize that a Carrier, person A standing on point X in front of POS shield and being shot by person B and person C and persons X in front (OUTSIDE) POS shield is all fair and square. Then Person A moves inside of the shield. Person B and C and X lose lock regardless of passive targeters or anything they might have fitted on their ships. But Torpedoes, like, i heared was case with D2 carrier, WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE TOWARD TARGET EVEN IF TARGET IS INSIDE OF SHIELD AND EVEN IF PERSONS B AND C AND X LOST LOCK. Last round fired of torpedoes went into shield and hited carrier ie person A who in all his fear and dumbness and not knowing game mechanics panicked (Insert: OMFG HAXORZ THEY SHOOT IN POS XPLOITS IM GONNA DIE) and foolishly warped to a planet where he was LEGIT killed by BoB. kthxby If you look at the vid, you see that carrier is not moving. Capital ships take long time to move and to stop, so he might be standing there for a LONG time fairly away from the shield border. I can speak only of my personal feelings regarding that. And those feeling are full of Disappointment. It's ok if from now on I will take everything BoB's and Boblets say with a huge grain of salt?
Rangar Gallente The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:02:00 - [749] This was the 3rd (if you count the unfinished also) titan in the game lost due to cheat/exploit/bug. Seems to be the only way, how titans are killed in EVE. And a GM congratulating BoB in local for killing a titan due to such a lame tactics shows, that CCP has not the slightest clue, that the game is going downhill very fast.
Flying DogbearRatcat Cornerstone Unlimited The Foundation.	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:16:00 - [750] i can see why the mechanics work like this but it is still very lame. BOB appears to like to be seen as a good pvp organisation yet surely far more respect would be gained if they waited and killed one in combat rather than because a game mechanic regarding logoff. Regarding the LV titan, i think that is different. Both the attacking force and the defending force had to deal with the lag didnt they?, so it was kinda even in a way, though i may be wrong.

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