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capt robn0id2 Amarr Igneus Auctorita	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:18:00 - [631] Well, bod ran like a joke from the ragoon war. They were clearly getting crushed out here. They run home and cheat out a titan. I dont see that much has changed. As soon as the coalition is done with LV they'll be coming for BoD. It wouldnt surprise me if D2 had another 3 titans on the cooker back in their space. I love how dianabolic referred to bob home space as the hornets nest. Looks like a bit of the goon mentality is rubbing off on her. Enjoy a few little battles till the rapetrain comes. choo choo
NAFnist Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:24:00 - [632] gull you ***** me up mate lol - Regards NAFnist
laotse shangdi	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:27:00 - [633] yeah it isnt easy fighting cheaters and dev,s it dont mather wat bob do it will alway,s stink !! 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Sirius A Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:28:00 - [634] exploit "I am expendable"
DiuxDium Casting Shadows	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:31:00 - [635] Originally by: laotse yeah it isnt easy fighting cheaters and dev,s it dont mather wat bob do it will alway,s stink !! I'm sure your opinion of them matters a lot. You should eve mail shrike telling him how little you think of him. I'm sure he gives a damn.
Yuki Li Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:36:00 - [636] Originally by: Portios Smith Dont you see it, the "downhill" side of the game is when proven cheaters like BoB are not only allowed to continue playing, but stretch the mechanics of the game far beyond their intended use soon after the factual cheating incident. I certainly see the downside of letting people without the vaguest idea what's going on post on the forums. That's you, so you don't get confused and swallow your tongue, or trip over your feet trying to work it out. Website / Recruiting
laotse shangdi	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:37:00 - [637] and you are the smart one of the fam 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Arlenna Molatov Caldari The 59th Parallel	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:40:00 - [638] Originally by: Machanara Edited by: Machanara on 17/02/2007 01:03:49 Originally by: Portios Smith Originally by: Edde Bebbi Originally by: Portios Smith So let me get this straight, I am playing a game where the best way to win at PvP is to manipulate game mechanics so that I can pwn n00bs once they are offline. May be we should change the name to EVE Offline CCP this is laughable. /me shopping for a new game where the fighting is done online Sorry mate, Im a bit mixed up, are you talking about BoB killing D2's Titan or NCA and friends killing LV's one in production? OH WAIT.... Dear BoD alt, Is quite different to storm a system with everyting you got hoping for a an epic fight and the darn game just beeing unable to handle it, to purposely plan the attack of an offline player by abusing game mechanics. We wanted a fight. BoD wanted a cheap titan kill. Excuse the F*K ,.,.....wha?? And you DIDNT know, knowing how the game mechanics work, that jumping and loggin in 1000 PEOPLE wouldn't crash the node?? You're fuking kidding me, right?? You knew DAMN well what would happen and you used it to your FULL advantage. So dont give us the ....oh...its not our fault we had 1000 people.. excuse...because anyone that has been in large battles knows damn well its gonna crash. Period. No need to think twice. The people here that are whining more than a crying baby are fking pathetic sore loosers. Its amazing you can call yourselves adults...it really is. I haven't heard 1/100th the whining, *ing, crying...and everything else you want to throw into that catagory from ALL my 9 nieces and 8 nephews in their ENTIRE lives than I have heard in this one thread. FKING PATHETIC Go get a real life people. If you dont like it, then leave Eve. Noone is forcing you to play and not like it. We could use all you leaving to help reduce all the damn lag!! Keeps resetting on me..so I'll quote it again, if you like it or not...I dont give a $hit. But I have no reason to talk smack or lie abotu anything...becasue what I say here is the truth. And anyone who is of the human species knows they dont want to hear the truth...becasue it never portrays them in a good light. You people are a joke. And the crying, whining, screaming, temper-tantrums, kicking...screaming, throwing toys all over the room responses from about 2/3rds of the people here only prove my point.
Kadarin Wolfenrecon	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:45:00 - [639] Pure cheese on BoB's part. No respect.
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:46:00 - [640] BOD you are a piece of crap and this is my own view only, I've always hated your spying / alt / social grooming / dev breeding tactics. You couldn't win a stand up fight with D2 if you're life depended on it. Vorsprung over Bobnick
BlackDog Rackh'am Minmatar Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:48:00 - [641] Well, it's really a borderline tactic. If non-intented use of a game mechanic is indeed classed as an exploit by the EULA/Terms of Service, then i guess D2 might be able to get it back. From what i can gather, the PvP timer was implemented to prevent people from logging in combat. It was not implemented to force a player to stay logged in indefinitely, especially when the player takes precautions in accordance with the PvP timer rules. I bet that this micro smartbomb made barely a dent on the guy's shields, if he had his effects and damage logs disabled to help minimise lag there's a very small possibility to see what's going on. In any case, what's done is done. Now i think though is the best time for people to request a visible aggression timer countdown for 0.0 just like the one we have in lowsec. Finally, about the kill itself. Clever thinking, cheap kill. I wish to congratulate BoB, not for killing the titan, but for doing everything in their power to ensure an AFK-kill. I suppose when you guys say you are after a challenge you actually mean the challenge of achieving a goal whichever way possible and not the challenge as in "hmmm, i might lose but it will be a fun fight". Don't take this as a flame, if this is what you like then well done on being effective in your chosen field. Furthermore, i wish to congratulate D2 as well for remaining calm about it, managing to put it in the correct perspective and handling themselves with a dignity that's approaching total apathy and indifference. I just have to ask Woody if it's maybe time to cross the line he was talking about. The opposition does, so why not? Originally by: Eloryan Persago, Goonfleet I welcome you to the coalition of people with user access to EvE
Crass Spektakel Amarr Coreward Technologies	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:50:00 - [642] Edited by: Crass Spektakel on 17/02/2007 01:47:57 Pure and simple: Band of Developers, Glitchers and kids which can't play the game the way it is meant to be. I have never seen Bob win a fight by fair means. Shoting through POS-fields, instascanning long before scanprobes were in the game, blocking Starbase-Fire by silly plays. Glitching, Glitching, Glitching. Never playing the game. This game starts stinking. You suck, totally and awesome. Crass Spektakel life is short and in most cases it ends with death but my tombstone will carry the hiscore
Nastratu Minmatar Serefon Creatin	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:01:00 - [643] Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT Originally by: Eron Lygera Do you believe that yourself? First, why would a game developing company favor a certain player alliance over others? What could they possible gain from this? Second... step away from the PC, look in mirror and repeat 10 times "its just a game". From a empire dveller to all you 0.0 jockies - what is wrong with you? I believe the admission on what a DEV apologised for! and CCP have mentioned time and time again that they approve of the alliance and how it is run, and this alliance is BoB...with the above admission of this DEV and with the lack of action from CCP errr I think alot of players seem undone too. So walk away from the comp ya self and drink some coffee and wake TFU There is a difference between "favor" and "approve", mmmk? If you're not sure what this difference is and use these words interchangeably, may I suggest looking them up in a dictionary? Also here is an IQ logics test for you. Given the following two premises: 1. One member of BoB was accused of abusing his power to illegally obtain BPOs (even before he was in BoB). 2. Abusing your powers in game makes you a cheat and spoils the game for everyone else. Determine if the following statement is true or false: This means that all of BoB are cheats and spoil the game for everyone else. If you answered True to the above statement, congratulations, you just scored 62 on the IQ logics test which places you among the 0.1% of EVE population still whining about how all BoB accounts should be banned for it here on the forums.
Vensa Heckler Clarf Inc	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:11:00 - [644] Originally by: Crass Spektakel Edited by: Crass Spektakel on 17/02/2007 01:47:57 Pure and simple: Band of Developers, Glitchers and kids which can't play the game the way it is meant to be. I have never seen Bob win a fight by fair means. Shoting through POS-fields, instascanning long before scanprobes were in the game, blocking Starbase-Fire by silly plays. Glitching, Glitching, Glitching. Never playing the game. This game starts stinking. You suck, totally and awesome. ahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha (thats a joke right, no one could really be that stupid (read:bitter and scared) surely?) - Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:13:00 - [645] Surely this just means all titan pilots will now be more careful about who they tell where/when they are logging .... Would probably have been wise to keep that info on the need to know anyway with the current climate of mass espionage there is in eve. (on all sides)
Auri Hella The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:17:00 - [646] I'm not sure if I should applaud this inventive plan or moan about underhanded tactics. Clever, yes, but so so low.
Shuriken Ertai Princeps Corp	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:19:00 - [647] Edited by: Shuriken Ertai on 17/02/2007 02:15:41 Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am From what i can gather, the PvP timer was implemented to prevent people from logging in combat. It was not implemented to force a player to stay logged in indefinitely, especially when the player takes precautions in accordance with the PvP timer rules. Well said. And friendly fire shouldnt flag u.
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:19:00 - [648] Originally by: Monkey Spankah For every one saying that he aggroed the titan in the POS bubble he didnt Look at the picture http://shadowforce.wiredhub.net/bob/2007.02.16.17.58.48.jpg clearly outside the bubble. Well, technically that picture only shows a titan outside a POS bubble and and cov ops with a smartbomb on cooldown. It does not show the damage text of said cov ops hitting the titan. It is at best only circumstancal proof. Note: I am not saying anyone is lying. Just that that pic is not a clear proof. They thing which I really do not understand is: Why in gods name would you log out the titan outside the POS bubble? I simply do not see any logical reason for that. Has D2 confirmed that they logged it out outside their POS?
Ascend Alt eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:22:00 - [649] Originally by: Doddy Surely this just means all titan pilots will now be more careful about who they tell where/when they are logging .... Would probably have been wise to keep that info on the need to know anyway with the current climate of mass espionage there is in eve. (on all sides) Or we could all, you know, just play this game as a simple game where we all have some fun and not treat it as some massive epeen contest where we have to win at all costs and must demonise our enemies so that any and all tactics become acceptable, even necessary so as to secure that win?
FookYou	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:28:00 - [650] Idiots killing idiots its what make's the universe go around......And to all the BoB homers 8---- bob on this
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:30:00 - [651] -Titan sitting outside a POS alone, with little to no support in system -BoB fleet, including cap ships and cynos at the ready -They choose to wait for it to log and kill it while defenseless than grow a pair and attack it when they had a great opportunity to do it properly That's why it's a lame kill. They probably could have taken it down legitimately before it logged, but they chose to do it in their usual underhanded way.
S'Beech Minmatar	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:40:00 - [652] What an incredibly lame thing to do.No credit for this kill at all.
Han Horensii Res Publica R i s e	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:46:00 - [653] Originally by: Yuki Li Originally by: Portios Smith Dont you see it, the "downhill" side of the game is when proven cheaters like BoB are not only allowed to continue playing, but stretch the mechanics of the game far beyond their intended use soon after the factual cheating incident. I certainly see the downside of letting people without the vaguest idea what's going on post on the forums. That's you, so you don't get confused and swallow your tongue, or trip over your feet trying to work it out. +1 Yuki Big respect Bob
Sinister Death Minmatar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:48:00 - [654] Edited by: Sinister Death on 17/02/2007 02:45:06 Originally by: Drachenlord Originally by: Khorian Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Ovaron Shortly before the Pilot was going to log off, he uncloaked and used a Passive Targeter to lock the Erebus and fired a single shot on him. Seconds after this, the Titan pilot logged. Isnt this an exploit if titan was inside forcefield? No, the targetter was a D2 and also INSIDE the bubble. He used the passive targetter so that the Titan pilot wouldnt notice anything. Nice try though... Are you a freaking idiot or did you not see the smart bomb? LoL don't need a passive targeter... and you can do that inside the sheilds lol... Except that last time I was in my POS shield, I couldnt target my corpmates that were also inside the shield, so my friend, it is indeed an exploit since you are not supposed to be able to target ANYTHING from inside the force field. . . The opinions expressed above are mine, and mine alone. They don't represent my corp, alliance or family.
NightmareX Caldari Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:49:00 - [655] Originally by: Han Horensii Big respect Bob LOL, respect to BoD for killing a Titan while the pilot was offline?, yadda yadda, much respect in that Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred
Sinister Death Minmatar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:50:00 - [656] Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Han Horensii Big respect Bob LOL, respect to BoD for killing a Titan while the pilot was offline?, yadda yadda, much respect in that You've never killed a logger? Then you are new or never played PVP... it sucks when people log off to avoid combat. . . The opinions expressed above are mine, and mine alone. They don't represent my corp, alliance or family.
qvacky AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:51:00 - [657] Pathetic exploitation of broken game mechanics. Really not at all surprising from BoB come to think of it...
NightmareX Caldari Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:56:00 - [658] Edited by: NightmareX on 17/02/2007 02:53:03 Originally by: Sinister Death Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Han Horensii Big respect Bob LOL, respect to BoD for killing a Titan while the pilot was offline?, yadda yadda, much respect in that You've never killed a logger? Then you are new or never played PVP... it sucks when people log off to avoid combat. It's not about killing a logger, it's about BoD had to kill the Titan WHILE the Titan pilot was logged off, if the Titan pilot had stayed logged on, would this happen then? And i have played this game for 2 years and like 6-7 months in total, so nope, i'm not new to EVE and PVP. Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred
Nathaniel Hull Caldari Finis Lumen	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:57:00 - [659] Im sorry. At the bigging of this war BoB explained its actions by saying they wanted a challenge. We now can all see this is not the case. BoB simply wants to win and will even use exploits and in the past dev help in some way to do so. Its unfortunate that BoB members and leadership dont understand ....this is a game. If you are all so high strung that you have to cheat then hey guys take a step back grab a brew and relax. Get a girl and go join a corp that doesn't make your request time off to break from the game. I mean really who was the guy who thought up well we gotta hax the titan otherwise we are too afraid to do ops of our own. -No repsect -No Honor -Maybe even No kill
Han Horensii Res Publica R i s e	Posted - 2007.02.17 03:02:00 - [660] Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Han Horensii Big respect Bob LOL, respect to BoD for killing a Titan while the pilot was offline?, yadda yadda, much respect in that that's game mechanics maten dont tell me you never probed someone that hit ctrl+Q with aggro timer.... They did a brilliant move with their spy, this is what i respect

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