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Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
BoD arent cheats? how come they admitted to it then?
CHEATS - FACT
lol? Proof please?
"All allegations mentioned above are untrue, except one. Sadly enough, the allegation regarding unlawfully obtained blueprints are, in my case, true. IÆm here, laying out the facts of what happened in June 2006 so this whole issue -- which jeopardized my colleagues, my company and our community -- can be put behind us, I hope for the better"
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=424
cheats - fact
A) He was not in BoB when he cheated. He arrived in Bob WITH the BPs
B) His char was removed from BoB when he was unveiled
C) That very quote specifically says that no NON-DEV member of BoB was involved.
So you are wrong.
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:26:00 -
[572]
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
CHEATS - Thats not the opinion of my corp, that's FACT
We have seen extensive screenshots showing you are wrong. Nice FACT.
Who cares about logic when it comes to ranting mindlessly.
Time and time again we saw proof that this was an extremely well thought out, and completely brilliant plan, and completely within the rules of the game mechanics.
I mean : OMFG HAX!
Tanking Survivability Calculator
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sb404
Caldari Tarnak inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:27:00 -
[573]
Originally by: Masooma
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=424 cheats - fact
I see 1 cheat not an alliance of cheats..
Guilty by association I guess. Knowing and not saying anything is just the same tbh. ------------------------------------------------- I never wrote this -Eris
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:27:00 -
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Thats some pretty devious planning -----
$Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++; |
Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:27:00 -
[575]
Originally by: Swift Wind
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Portios Smith So let me get this straight, I am playing a game where the best way to win at PvP is to manipulate game mechanics so that I can pwn n00bs once they are offline.
May be we should change the name to EVE Offline
CCP this is laughable.
/me shopping for a new game where the fighting is done online
Sorry mate, Im a bit mixed up, are you talking about BoB killing D2's Titan or NCA and friends killing LV's one in production? OH WAIT....
NCA killed a pilotless flying titan, using game mechanics? Really?
Yes. They enterred an impossibly well defended (450 people, 40 cap ships, 200 fighters, 15 large bubbles all on one gate) using t1 ships in huge quantities to crash the node then jumped in before those who had crashed could re log on.
Anyone who knows anything about node crashes knows that those jumping in have the advantage by a HUGE amount.
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Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:28:00 -
[576]
Originally by: sb404
Originally by: Masooma
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=424 cheats - fact
I see 1 cheat not an alliance of cheats..
Guilty by association I guess. Knowing and not saying anything is just the same tbh.
The Dev blog states that there is no evidence that anyone knew.
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Masooma
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:28:00 -
[577]
Originally by: sb404
Originally by: Masooma
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=424 cheats - fact
I see 1 cheat not an alliance of cheats..
Guilty by association I guess. Knowing and not saying anything is just the same tbh.
I point you to this part:
Quote: I wish to make it clear that I acted alone and my co-workers and corp/alliance mates have been cleared of any alleged wrongdoing.
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Stesha Andreev
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:28:00 -
[578]
I have a question, in the Second screen we see a bubble but it doesn't look like a POS more like a dictor bubble. Look at the edges of the bubble. The question is why is there a dictor bubble dropped on a Titan when is immune to electronic warfare? (the sphere launcher is found under EW so I assume it to EW) Was it used to hold the Titan there or was the aggro timer used to keep the offline pilot locked down?
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kamikaze Loco So d2 did a big mistake and underestimate their enemy. Impressed by BoB! This is communist style intel! BoB might even be worth of a spot in AAA if they continue like this.
do u realy thing we are stupid enough to underestimate an enemie that some of us know longer then 3 years
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Nedolzna Ovcica
Mindstar Brigade
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:29:00 -
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what can i say, there was no exploit, yes it was a dirty thing to do using a spy w/ smartbomb to tag the erebus, but all is fair in war and love right?
a very brilliant plant indeed and well executed as well. shows who the real masters of the game are. respekta to BOB.
and sorry for your loss D2. i am sure u'll get another one into battle soon, and this won't be a big "downer" for u. Just keep fighting, that's what EvE is about :)
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:30:00 -
[581]
Originally by: Stesha Andreev I have a question, in the Second screen we see a bubble but it doesn't look like a POS more like a dictor bubble. Look at the edges of the bubble. The question is why is there a dictor bubble dropped on a Titan when is immune to electronic warfare? (the sphere launcher is found under EW so I assume it to EW) Was it used to hold the Titan there or was the aggro timer used to keep the offline pilot locked down?
Sphears aprently hold caps ships down they arnt realy ew per say more of a natural phenomen around them, its like when you log in a bubbel
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Shikome Alluin
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Shikome Alluin on 17/02/2007 00:28:46 Edited by: Shikome Alluin on 17/02/2007 00:26:45 wow... Just an amazing plan BoB! I must say that. >
It sucks that it was an exploitive one...
/I was drunk, it was dark and it was delicius
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Zeveron
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Franga Not that I condone BOD for their tactic, but ...
Also - we're forgetting how friggin' rich D2 is. You guys ever heard of TRUST? If not I shall explain:
It is half of the t2 and capital economy.
There ... I think that explains everything. I feel for your loss, D2. And I hope that BOD eats it. Also - I love you Tyraxx. Will you have my children?
rofl I thought TRUST was never alt corp of G and D2 :-) ----------------------------------
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Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Edde Bebbi on 17/02/2007 00:26:57
Originally by: Stesha Andreev I have a question, in the Second screen we see a bubble but it doesn't look like a POS more like a dictor bubble. Look at the edges of the bubble. The question is why is there a dictor bubble dropped on a Titan when is immune to electronic warfare? (the sphere launcher is found under EW so I assume it to EW) Was it used to hold the Titan there or was the aggro timer used to keep the offline pilot locked down?
Nothing is immune to dictor/Mobile warp disruptors. Not even titans and motherships.
Even if they were; the pod isnt!
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Szprinkoth Sponsz
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:30:00 -
[585]
Originally by: Stesha Andreev I have a question, in the Second screen we see a bubble but it doesn't look like a POS more like a dictor bubble. Look at the edges of the bubble. The question is why is there a dictor bubble dropped on a Titan when is immune to electronic warfare? (the sphere launcher is found under EW so I assume it to EW) Was it used to hold the Titan there or was the aggro timer used to keep the offline pilot locked down?
Bubbles do work on supercapitals.
It was probably there to keep him from warping off if he logged back on.
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Swift Wind
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:30:00 -
[586]
Edited by: Swift Wind on 17/02/2007 00:28:20
Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
CHEATS - Thats not the opinion of my corp, that's FACT
We have seen extensive screenshots showing you are wrong. Nice FACT.
Who cares about logic when it comes to ranting mindlessly.
Time and time again we saw proof that this was an extremely well thought out, and completely brilliant plan, and completely within the rules of the game mechanics.
I mean : OMFG HAX!
What i don't get is for an Uber PvP alliance, why not PvP? Why not drop one with force? For a titan to fall to gamemechanics is lame, Is it a cheat? That's debatable. Is it cheap? That's not....
For the mightiest ship in the game they sure go down without a fight....
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Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:31:00 -
[587]
Originally by: Swift Wind
Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
CHEATS - Thats not the opinion of my corp, that's FACT
We have seen extensive screenshots showing you are wrong. Nice FACT.
Who cares about logic when it comes to ranting mindlessly.
Time and time again we saw proof that this was an extremely well thought out, and completely brilliant plan, and completely within the rules of the game mechanics.
I mean : OMFG HAX!
What i don't get is for an Uber PvP alliance, why not PvP? Why not drop one with force? For a titan to fall to gamemechanics is lame, Is it a cheat? That's debateable. Is it xheap, that's not....
For the mightiest ship in the game they sure go down without a fight....
And the LV one your allies killed in production using node crashes to get past the defending force (there was NO FIGHTING AT ALL)
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Portios Smith
Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:32:00 -
[588]
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Portios Smith So let me get this straight, I am playing a game where the best way to win at PvP is to manipulate game mechanics so that I can pwn n00bs once they are offline.
May be we should change the name to EVE Offline
CCP this is laughable.
/me shopping for a new game where the fighting is done online
Sorry mate, Im a bit mixed up, are you talking about BoB killing D2's Titan or NCA and friends killing LV's one in production? OH WAIT....
Dear BoD alt, Is quite different to storm a system with everyting you got hoping for a an epic fight and the darn game just beeing unable to handle it, to purposely plan the attack of an offline player by abusing game mechanics.
We wanted a fight. BoD wanted a cheap titan kill.
I want the truth
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sb404
Caldari Tarnak inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:32:00 -
[589]
Originally by: Masooma
Originally by: sb404
Originally by: Masooma
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=424 cheats - fact
I see 1 cheat not an alliance of cheats..
Guilty by association I guess. Knowing and not saying anything is just the same tbh.
I point you to this part:
Quote: I wish to make it clear that I acted alone and my co-workers and corp/alliance mates have been cleared of any alleged wrongdoing.
cleared by the same instigators that wanted to keep it under wraps. If you're not doing anything this weekend, watch Arlington Road it has a very nice theory on people "that are working alone"
I guess we'll have to believe the coin has two sides.
------------------------------------------------- I never wrote this -Eris
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Imode
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:33:00 -
[590]
Originally by: Stesha Andreev I have a question, in the Second screen we see a bubble but it doesn't look like a POS more like a dictor bubble. Look at the edges of the bubble. The question is why is there a dictor bubble dropped on a Titan when is immune to electronic warfare? (the sphere launcher is found under EW so I assume it to EW) Was it used to hold the Titan there or was the aggro timer used to keep the offline pilot locked down?
Dictor bubbles and Mobile Warp Disruptors hold Titans and Motherships. They are the only things that are able to scramble these ships which is why they fit officer smartbombs to neutralize the threat of bubbles. _________________________________ Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24,000 bytes.Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip |
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Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:33:00 -
[591]
Originally by: sb404
Originally by: Masooma
Originally by: sb404
Originally by: Masooma
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=424 cheats - fact
I see 1 cheat not an alliance of cheats..
Guilty by association I guess. Knowing and not saying anything is just the same tbh.
I point you to this part:
Quote: I wish to make it clear that I acted alone and my co-workers and corp/alliance mates have been cleared of any alleged wrongdoing.
cleared by the same instigators that wanted to keep it under wraps. If you're not doing anything this weekend, watch Arlington Road it has a very nice theory on people "that are working alone"
I guess we'll have to believe the coin has two sides.
"Its a crime. The police and government say its not a crime, the police watchdogs say they are right, the suspects say its not a crime, all the evidence points to it not being a crime, but I, personally, know they are all lying as a FACT."
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Swift Wind
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Swift Wind on 17/02/2007 00:31:47 Edde, Umm, I am a loner Boss.
Totally unaffiliated.
Still lame, as stated, bringing a force and using MECHANICS are wholly diffrent, no?
From the outside, your alliance looks quite underhanded. With everything that has gone on lately, did you expect diffrently?
When you absolutly NEED to know... |
RedCodeX
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:35:00 -
[593]
Edited by: RedCodeX on 17/02/2007 00:31:49
Originally by: Grimeh Edited by: Grimeh on 17/02/2007 00:19:13
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Supay
Next time, for all those D2 saying how lame BoB were, maybe consider what its like when it happens to you. I've seen dirty trick after dirty trick pulled throughout this war so far and noone in any of the alliances involved is innocent, so just stop crying like little girls and live with it, as you are as dirty as the rest of them.
Point me to a similar lame event caused by d2.
Memory is extremely selective.
using non D2 forums on an official eve fan site to gain ip address to match IPs on D2 forums and TS....
We already identified the spy but didn't want to start a witchhunt if he was innocent, so only one specific IP was compared one time and this will not be possible in the future. happy?
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Masooma
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:36:00 -
[594]
Originally by: sb404
Originally by: Masooma
Originally by: sb404
Originally by: Masooma
Originally by: Gull De'Kuntos
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=424 cheats - fact
I see 1 cheat not an alliance of cheats..
Guilty by association I guess. Knowing and not saying anything is just the same tbh.
I point you to this part:
Quote: I wish to make it clear that I acted alone and my co-workers and corp/alliance mates have been cleared of any alleged wrongdoing.
cleared by the same instigators that wanted to keep it under wraps. If you're not doing anything this weekend, watch Arlington Road it has a very nice theory on people "that are working alone"
I guess we'll have to believe the coin has two sides.
Can I ask why do you play and take part in a game if you think it is corrupt and that everbody hired to investigate is also corrupt?
I mean if i believed what you do i wouldn't play a game like that as there would be no point would there?
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ovaron Statement Dusk and Dawn
Today D¦ lost an Erebus class Titan.
Because there are still a lot of questions about these recent events, here are some points from our persepective.
The Erebus pilot had planned to log out as he had things to attend to out of game, in order to do this he jumped back from the front line to a more secure system. He had not been involved in any fights or attacks for the three hours prior to this.
It seems that the Erebus was being scouted by a internal Spy who has since been identified. This character was flying a cloaked Anathema Covert Ops frigate. Shortly before the Pilot was going to log off, he uncloaked and used a Passive Targeter to lock the Erebus and fired a single shot on him. Seconds after this, the Titan pilot logged.
So the aggro timer was increased without our pilot noticing.
Minutes after this it was reported that the Titan had not disappeared, so the pilot attempted to log back in. Unfortunately there was no chance for him to save the Titan, due to a well executed plan by BoB who had jumped in their Capital Fleet and Support.
We always knew it was going to be a dirty war, but once again, Band of Brother prooves, it can always get more dirty.
While that is pretty underhanded, It's not the first or last time a spy has/will cause damage for a group, this damage was just, well, worth about 75 times more ISK than my char has ever had...
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:37:00 -
[596]
Originally by: Portios Smith
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Portios Smith So let me get this straight, I am playing a game where the best way to win at PvP is to manipulate game mechanics so that I can pwn n00bs once they are offline.
May be we should change the name to EVE Offline
CCP this is laughable.
/me shopping for a new game where the fighting is done online
Sorry mate, Im a bit mixed up, are you talking about BoB killing D2's Titan or NCA and friends killing LV's one in production? OH WAIT....
Dear BoD alt, Is quite different to storm a system with everyting you got hoping for a an epic fight and the darn game just beeing unable to handle it, to purposely plan the attack of an offline player by abusing game mechanics.
We wanted a fight. BoD wanted a cheap titan kill.
You didnt want a fight you wanted a nodecrash. If there had been a fight you would have lost heavily. An hour before the main event, 150 Goons jumped into our camp, and managed to kill 4 frigates (one t2) before ALL DYING. If the node hadnt crashed, we would see 800 killmails on the LV boards instead of just 150.
Don't kid yourself you could have won without a node crash, because you couldnt and your commanders were relying on that.
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Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: RedCodeX Edited by: RedCodeX on 17/02/2007 00:31:49
Originally by: Grimeh Edited by: Grimeh on 17/02/2007 00:19:13
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Supay
Next time, for all those D2 saying how lame BoB were, maybe consider what its like when it happens to you. I've seen dirty trick after dirty trick pulled throughout this war so far and noone in any of the alliances involved is innocent, so just stop crying like little girls and live with it, as you are as dirty as the rest of them.
Point me to a similar lame event caused by d2.
Memory is extremely selective.
using non D2 forums on an official eve fan site to gain ip address to match IPs on D2 forums and TS....
We already identified the spy but didn't want to start a witchhunt if he was innocent, so only one specific IP was compared one time and this will not be possible in the future. happy?
Thats not what the internal logs posted by Kugutsumen said. They said it was ongoing and multiple people. Unless he forged them? Oh wait you crucified BoB on the same guys evidence...
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:39:00 -
[598]
Originally by: RedCodeX We already identified the spy but didn't want to start a witchhunt if he was innocent, so only one specific IP was compared one time and this will not be possible in the future. happy?
Its okay because it only happened once? -----
$Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++; |
Supay
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:39:00 -
[599]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: RedCodeX We already identified the spy but didn't want to start a witchhunt if he was innocent, so only one specific IP was compared one time and this will not be possible in the future. happy?
Its okay because it only happened once?
Damn, why don't RL criminals think of that plea in court
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Swift Wind
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 00:40:00 -
[600]
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Thats not what the internal logs posted by Kugutsumen said. They said it was ongoing and multiple people. Unless he forged them? Oh wait you crucified BoB on the same guys evidence...
are you saying ALL his evidence IS true?
When you absolutly NEED to know... |
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