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JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:44:00 - [1] I have for some time now flown with my trusted gang in Privateer Alliance. After reading these forums it has become clear to me, that a great part of the community have little insight in what Privateer Alliance actually is, and how it functions. First off, I would like to make clear that this is my personal view of the alliance after the experiences we've had in the first month. Every corporation joining the Privateer alliance pay 50 million per week in fees. These fees go towards war declarations on alliances, large or even small corporaions. The more corporations which are in the alliance, the more war decs will run simultaneously, and logically, the more targets to shoot at for everyone in the alliance. The alliance hold, and have no intentions of (to my knowledge), holding any 0.0 space, stations, pos's or the like. We do not stribe towards building titans or capital fleets. What do bring us together is our common interest in smaller gang/fleet engagements. We do not fancy 150 man gangs and everything this brings (mostly lag, bugs, client drops, irretation and last but not least politics). It's all about the thrill and the fun. What we do fancy is fast, fun and thrilling engagements. We like the challenge that all the war targets and alliances bring. We like the fact that your mission runners and haulers make a profitable business for us, and that us killing them will eventually lead to you sending pvp gangs to fight us. In short, we like a challenge. We like action. And we dislike the lagfests and long waits that 0.0 fleet combat brings. Other than the large corporations, Privateers consists of many smaller well functioning pvp corporations, with a lot of experienced and dedicated pilots that work well together as a unit. Do not underestimate the skills of these pilots, units or their leaders. One common mistake made by many of our enemies is that they see Privateer alliance as one unit with around 600 members. A better understanding would be to see x number of corporations/units working independantly to fight you. Most of the corporations are used to work alone and only use the alliance as mean to get war targets all over the eve universe. This doesn't mean that we can't work together if find a decent carrier to kill. It doesn't mean that we can't give intel to eachother on enemy movement. What it does mean, is that we are not on the same teamspeak and that we are not used to fly as one joint unit. A commonly used phrase on these forums is "Come to 0.0 and fight like real men" or something alike. 0.0 is your base of operation. Empire is ours. You have your 'hardware' in 0.0. We have ours in empire. We have no need to travel to your precious 0.0 regions as there is nothing outhere we crave for or need. You however do need to get to empire. To buy fuel for your pos's. Mods for your ships, implants for your brains and to sell your precious high end minerals and faction loot. In short. Your advantages are in 0.0. You can outblob us, entrap us and change ships as you need. This makes it close to impossible for us to send a equally large fleet to your space. Instead our advantages lie in empire. Where we have our forces. Where we (most of the time) outnumber you. And where we have our 'hardware', ready to fight. This doesn't mean we can't fly in faster moving gangs throughout your space, assaulting your npc'ers and miners... You see, it is a challenge, for us, to make it 80 jumps through hostile territory. It's a test of your defenses and our skills to survive with the odds against us (no intel, no docking possibility, no support). We are looking forward to constructive and decent replies to this thread, which is mainly ment to be informative and to clarify what Privateers is all about. We are looking forward to seeing your corporation or alliance on the battlefield in the near future. Signed JMcClane, a member in Righteous Choirboys, Privateer Alliance
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:49:00 - [2] IS this post needed? You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death. It's not a mystery as to what you do.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:50:00 - [3] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar IS this post needed? You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death. It's not a mystery as to what you do.... Retards like you are why we need the above post. --- Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
Sentar Manar Amarr NailorTech Industries Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:52:00 - [4] Edited by: Sentar Manar on 26/02/2007 01:51:27 Edited by: Sentar Manar on 26/02/2007 01:48:46 #Translation# #1: We like to PVP. #2: We don't like fair fights. #3: We like money. #4: We don't like working. #5: We don't want to risk anything. #6: We do want your stuff. #Solution# We will stay in Empire, Wardeck you and let your money flow to us how crafty of us. #Problem# When the Wars over the Alliances are going to come to empire to stomp you. :End Transmition:
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:52:00 - [5] Originally by: Marquis Dean Retards like you are why we need the above post. Retard is a personal attack You think I havent seen you do it... Grow a set...useless thread http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466
Ty'derian ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:53:00 - [6] Edited by: Ty''derian on 26/02/2007 01:50:14 i dont know why are you posting this JMcClane. its simply, if you have fun with that what are you doing, do it : ) **** (edit <- popo) on the others : )
Samiloth Justinian AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:53:00 - [7] The idea behind it actually sounds fun, but I must give station camping in Jita two thumbs down :P
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar IS this post needed? You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death. It's not a mystery as to what you do.... Look me up on our killboard mate... Check how many kills I've made in Jita.... You judge us all by the action of a few. As I explained above. We are not alike, though our alliance ticker may be the same!
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:56:00 - [9] Originally by: JMcClane Look me up on our killboard mate... Check how many kills I've made in Jita.... You judge us all by the action of a few. As I explained above. We are not alike, though our alliance ticker may be the same! Well if that is what you are trying to explain, then maybe you should stop inviting just about everyone into your alliance. Yesterday, I flew my alt down to Jita...and sat and watched. So dont call me retard. Its pathetic at best what they do there http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 01:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Sentar Manar Edited by: Sentar Manar on 26/02/2007 01:51:27 Edited by: Sentar Manar on 26/02/2007 01:48:46 #Translation# #1: We like to PVP. #2: We don't like fair fights. #3: We like money. #4: We don't like working. #5: We don't want to risk anything. #6: We do want your stuff. #Solution# We will stay in Empire, Wardeck you and let your money flow to us how crafty of us. #Problem# When the Wars over the Alliances are going to come to empire to stomp you. #Response to Problem# It's not a problem. It's what we want. A challenge... As to your points. 1. Yes 2. Yes we do, with all the war targets and the larger gang movements due to the war, we actually see a while lot of fights which are up hill for us. 3. Don't we all (Although virtual) 4. We work hard on intel and are very dedicated in tracking you down, tackling you, and pursuing you as your 8 warp core stab apoc travel through empire. You might not know, but it requires a bit of coordination to stop such a ship without interdictors and bubbles. 5. We risk plenty. No place in empire nor 0.0 is safe for us. 6. So very true :) As off your #problem#... As I've stated in the post. We love a challenge... We'll be looking forward to it!

JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:01:00 - [11] Edited by: JMcClane on 26/02/2007 01:58:19 Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: JMcClane Look me up on our killboard mate... Check how many kills I've made in Jita.... You judge us all by the action of a few. As I explained above. We are not alike, though our alliance ticker may be the same! Well if that is what you are trying to explain, then maybe you should stop inviting just about everyone into your alliance. Yesterday, I flew my alt down to Jita...and sat and watched. So dont call me retard. Its pathetic at best what they do there I'm not inviting anyone into our alliance. I'm not trying to tell you that Privateers is guts and glory. I'm trying to tell you that we are not all dishonerable pilots which gank outside 4-4. Some of us work hard to earn our kills! And for the record... I did not call you a retard, and anyone else who feel like flaming, or name calling should go elsewhere... this is a discussions forum. Discuss!!!
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar IS this post needed? You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death. It's not a mystery as to what you do.... And one could say that you hug a POS 23/7. Or that D2 means "Docked till downtime". Or would that be an uncharitable statement for an alliance that got camped in a station the whole of Sunday while billions of ISK worth of POS's got blown up? The OP made a good post, it's his unbiased take on what they do. The game allows for different playstyles, he explained what theirs is.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:07:00 - [13] Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch And one could say that you hug a POS 23/7. Or that D2 means "Docked till downtime". Or would that be an uncharitable statement for an alliance that got camped in a station the whole of Sunday while billions of ISK worth of POS's got blown up? The OP made a good post, it's his unbiased take on what they do. The game allows for different playstyles, he explained what theirs is. Hello Troll...this is a PA thread, but I guess you couldn't resist How many POS got blown up? go do the math, and if we are docked all the time why is our killboard littered with BOB battleships...hmm. btw..the Britney Spears hair do is so last week http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:11:00 - [14] i suspect once the big wars are over and most the pvpers arent needed so much in 0.0 that the repercussions for any corp who has been in privateers is going to be devastating. the tables will turn and you will all get burned ------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to.
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:11:00 - [15] So you're a bunch of fresh water pirates, wanabee pvpers playing in a sandbox and you do not plan to do anything more than indus ganking in the future. Thanks for the informative post.
MetalZero Minmatar Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar IS this post needed? You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death. quote] That is the way that your project works JMcClane..... nothing more , nothing less ....so save us time and no post bs pls ___________ ThunderCats
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:20:00 - [17] Originally by: Amerame So you're a bunch of fresh water pirates, wanabee pvpers playing in a sandbox and you do not plan to do anything more than indus ganking in the future. Thanks for the informative post. I shoot whichever war target I can in empire... I don't favorize one over the other. And most importantly... I'm not the one who choose to fly a hauler in empire in war time. I believe only the pilot himself choose what ship he put his behind in!
Mortharian Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:21:00 - [18] Privateers = Pirates. Opportunistic pirates. 'Nuff said. (And no, they've never killed me, so no, I don't say this because I'm just bitter.) Next thread plz. __________________________________________________
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:26:00 - [19] Originally by: MetalZero Originally by: Flinx Evenstar IS this post needed? You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death. quote] That is the way that your project works JMcClane..... nothing more , nothing less ....so save us time and no post bs pls Again... Look my up on the killboards... Count my kills in Jita.... I believe they can almost be counted on one hand. Same goes for many many others in Privateers... I see scams on contracts by RAZOR members as well.. Do I judge you by their actions??? Would you like me to?
Gurgling CEO Gurgleblaster Industries	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:27:00 - [20] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui i suspect once the big wars are over and most the pvpers arent needed so much in 0.0 that the repercussions for any corp who has been in privateers is going to be devastating. the tables will turn and you will all get burned I dont think so. If they notice theres gang around that actually has a fighting chance, they endlessly sit on stations until enemies get bored and then continue on their merry way (ie: blowing up newbs who are not prepared to fight them). Only thing that puts end to this useless alliance it to increase cost of wardecs. Like this.

Sionn Klorgh Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:31:00 - [21] Quote: The alliance hold, and have no intentions of (to my knowledge), holding any 0.0 space, stations, pos's or the like. We do not stribe towards building titans or capital fleets. What do bring us together is our common interest in smaller gang/fleet engagements. We do not fancy 150 man gangs and everything this brings (mostly lag, bugs, client drops, irretation and last but not least politics). It's all about the thrill and the fun. What we do fancy is fast, fun and thrilling engagements. TRANSLATION: 0.0 is too hard, we rather war dec everyone and gank their empire carebears. This makes sense since many 0.0 entities don't run fleets in empire and that usually gives us good gank odds. On a personal note, I live in 0.0, so your 'fun' is irrelevant to me.
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:36:00 - [22] NPC corp Hauler alt > Privateers
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:39:00 - [23] Originally by: Gurgling CEO Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui i suspect once the big wars are over and most the pvpers arent needed so much in 0.0 that the repercussions for any corp who has been in privateers is going to be devastating. the tables will turn and you will all get burned I dont think so. If they notice theres gang around that actually has a fighting chance, they endlessly sit on stations until enemies get bored and then continue on their merry way (ie: blowing up newbs who are not prepared to fight them). Only thing that puts end to this useless alliance it to increase cost of wardecs. Like this. If we notice gangs of 15 moving through our 4 man camp, we do choose to wait it out, that's true! You are so right. "Gangs with a fighting chance..." They usually get their fighting chance!!! From our ppl at least. Again. Privateers is a not an organized alliance where the stars in local equal the size of the opposing force. The opposing force may be 2-3 smaller gangs, NOT working together. This is our weakness, and this may make us look inferior in numbers when we are actually not!
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:42:00 - [24] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Quote: The alliance hold, and have no intentions of (to my knowledge), holding any 0.0 space, stations, pos's or the like. We do not stribe towards building titans or capital fleets. What do bring us together is our common interest in smaller gang/fleet engagements. We do not fancy 150 man gangs and everything this brings (mostly lag, bugs, client drops, irretation and last but not least politics). It's all about the thrill and the fun. What we do fancy is fast, fun and thrilling engagements. TRANSLATION: 0.0 is too hard, we rather war dec everyone and gank their empire carebears. This makes sense since many 0.0 entities don't run fleets in empire and that usually gives us good gank odds. On a personal note, I live in 0.0, so your 'fun' is irrelevant to me. REFLECTION: 0.0 is boring and doesn't give me any satisfaction, so I'd rather be at war with everyone so I have a higher chance of actually getting into a fight, even decent ones, as I just like to plainly fight without having to worry about politics. Good gank odds? I don't know about that.... Does your home region in 0.0 not give you pretty good gank odds when I come there? How is this different?
USN CVN72 Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.26 02:47:00 - [25] Privateer Alliance members have been seen near FDZ in 0.0. Today i ganked one of them scouting in a stabber... You guys r making yourselves be the #1 target after the big war is over... Keep it up and soont Empire will be hunting your alliance everyday... Come to 0.0 and i guarantee u you will be flying to empire in pods... You can take that to the bank USN personally is observing your members in empire and in 0.0 and your now going to be hunted.. God Speed!
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 03:00:00 - [26] Originally by: USN CVN72 Edited by: USN CVN72 on 26/02/2007 02:47:48 Privateer Alliance members have been seen near FDZ in 0.0. Today i ganked one of them scouting in a stabber... You guys r making yourselves be the #1 target after the big war is over... Keep it up and soon Empire will be hunting your alliance everyday... Come to 0.0 and i guarantee u you will be flying to empire in pods... You can take that to the bank USN and my 4 alts and RK pvpers are now personally observing your members in empire and in 0.0 and your effectively going to be hunted... God Speed! lol. Wave that e-peen. --- Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
Count Rayken Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.26 03:00:00 - [27] Just you wait Privy squad...just you wait. It wouldnt take a corp of more than 30 organized PvPers to kick your ass much less every alliance in the game. When this war is over, i'll lead ops yo ucatch your ass myself. I iS tEh win
Xori Ruscuv SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.26 03:03:00 - [28] Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 26/02/2007 03:00:47 Originally by: Flinx Evenstar IS this post needed? You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death. It's not a mystery as to what you do.... Honestly - at least watch some Privateer videos before you say this. These guys got some good fight in them. I, for one, respect what they do: they bring the fight, and have fun doing it. Afterall, isn't "FUN" what this game is about? It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
Sentar Manar Amarr NailorTech Industries Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 03:04:00 - [29] Well I surly can respect the motives even if I don't quite feel the methods are right. Win some loss some and all though you may annoy me I can take in stide since I live in 0.0 Space and money flows to me like water. I actuly can see this as funny. An Alliance in Empire that does nothing but take potshots at people. This could be very funny. :End Transmition:
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.26 03:06:00 - [30] Originally by: JMcClane We are looking forward to hiding in a station, ganking defenseless haulers and making more retarded posts on the forums, because we actually someone, somewhere actually gives a **** about us.... Signed JMcClane, a member in Righteous Choirboys, Privateer A[/quote=JMcClane] fixed.. Some people I've heard giggle when the name Agony Unleashed comes up, but you know what? Those boys will come out and fight, in 0.0, nonetheless, they have earned quite a bt of respect.. You guys on the other hand are nothing more then a pathetic breed of pirate, who have none of the skills and only half of the good smack. Go get bent :) I is Goca



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