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Count Rayken
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:08:00 -
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Yeah, I saw 6 of em in BS camping Agil today. We had a gang not but 6 jumps away willing to fight them and they: Ran. *gasp*
unbelievable rite?
No. They will only engage when its 2:1 their odds. Its not rumor. Its fact.
Dotn get me wrong though, because I would do almost the same thing you do, except use Dif tactics. For example, the wardec everyone while they are dukeing it out in 0.0 in the biggest war ever fought: was a good idea. If I were an Empire dweller i would do that too.
Its just your tactics during the war I disagree ith.
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Mochalatte
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:08:00 -
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 Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
IS this post needed?
You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death.
It's not a mystery as to what you do....
And one could say that you hug a POS 23/7. Or that D2 means "Docked till downtime".
Or would that be an uncharitable statement for an alliance that got camped in a station the whole of Sunday while billions of ISK worth of POS's got blown up?
The OP made a good post, it's his unbiased take on what they do. The game allows for different playstyles, he explained what theirs is.
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
btw..the Britney Spears hair do is so last week 
Don't mock the hair!
SHE copied me. My lawyers will be in touch
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Harrana
Evil Proctologists
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:11:00 -
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Up until the last few days I've been in a 0.0 corp or alliance for nearly my whole time in Eve and perhaps not coincidentally up until recently I thought the Privateer Alliance was a pretty sorry excuse for an organisation (I'm sure my sentiments would have echoed many of those expressed above). Recently, however, my corp disbanded and a few of us have formed the corp I am currently in and already we have been war decced by Imperial Order (much love to STFU, been great fun fighting you guys, hope you've enjoyed it too). The past few days are the most fun I've had in Eve in a long time: regular fun engagements; sustainable loss rate and no travelling huge distances and waiting for hours only to get blown up in 5 seconds while still loading the grid. In short I've been enjoying Eve.
It seems that 0.0 wars and politics are becoming increasingly bitter and unsatisfying for those involved. The course of events are controlled by a few huge entities that are lead by egotistical power trippers (at least that is how they come across on the forums). When was the last time you read about a good fun fight in 0.0 where everyone went home having enjoyed themselves? Very rarely I should imagine, most posts in COAD regarding 0.0 seem to rapidly descend into bitter, acrimonious, flame fests very quickly. As such my respect for the ideas behind privateers has grown hugely... I really do think they may be onto something as they seem to have got away from all this.
Incidentally I find it funny, Goonswarm a while ago seemed to take great pride in portraying themselves as the antithesis of BoB... they aren't, they are just the same, even down to the style of the leaderships posts (read the mittani's, or whatever he's called, posts on scrapheap-challenge if you don't believe me). The true antithesis to BoB and all the other 0.0 alliances - Privateers.
Oh and as an added bonus - when you fight in empire it doesn't matter how big your enemies cap fleet is or how many titans they've got as you're never going to run into them 
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: JMcClane
If we notice gangs of 15 moving through our 4 man camp, we do choose to wait it out, that's true! You are so right.
"Gangs with a fighting chance..." They usually get their fighting chance!!! From our ppl at least.
Ok...later I will go back to Jita and fraps your ganking outside 4-4. On average, it is a 6 v 1 gank. After I post it in this thread, you can then tell me how good your "challenge" is
Sounds like you, JMcClane ar flying in a different alliance. 
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Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:17:00 -
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Why is it so hard for some people accept that different people have fun in different ways?
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
IS this post needed?
You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death.
It's not a mystery as to what you do....
Retards like you are why we need the above post.
/emote rolls around the floor laughing very hard
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Honestly - at least watch some Privateer videos before you say this. These guys got some good fight in them. I, for one, respect what they do: they bring the fight, and have fun doing it.
Afterall, isn't "FUN" what this game is about?
err..why would I watch a carefully edited video, when I can fly to Jita and seem them ganking lone targets every day.
Fun...I'm sure it wasn't fun the por guy undocking in a lag fest, and those guys that pressed F1-F4 must have had a great time
No I haven't been ganked by PA, and I'm not bitter...tbh I give BOB more respect than PA. Especially DICE. They fight hard. And yes I am at war with the buggers, but at least I know a decent enemy when I see one.
And no...I am not an arm chair general...chk killboards...you will see me both killing and dying. ( am sorting out fraps now..laters  )
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Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Honestly - at least watch some Privateer videos before you say this. These guys got some good fight in them. I, for one, respect what they do: they bring the fight, and have fun doing it.
Afterall, isn't "FUN" what this game is about?
err..why would I watch a carefully edited video, when I can fly to Jita and seem them ganking lone targets every day.
Fun...I'm sure it wasn't fun the por guy undocking in a lag fest, and those guys that pressed F1-F4 must have had a great time
No I haven't been ganked by PA, and I'm not bitter...tbh I give BOB more respect than PA. Especially DICE. They fight hard. And yes I am at war with the buggers, but at least I know a decent enemy when I see one.
And no...I am not an arm chair general...chk killboards...you will see me both killing and dying. ( am sorting out fraps now..laters )
That's all well and good - of course I know as well as you do that there is just as much lagfest+f1-f8 in 0.0, too. You do what you do for fun. They do what they do for fun. They make money by killing people. Nothing wrong with that. It's part of the game, mate!
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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Troubadour
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:35:00 -
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You know, I've heard a lot of people *****ing about how privateers are just some kind of nuisence or empire hauler and shuttle gankers but I've been hesitant to believe it as I understand what it's about. Not everyone plays the game to build up some massive 0.0 alliance and hold space and all that other crap. That is good for some, but others just want to fight. No politics, no real logistics to worry about, no bullsh**. I get it. Probably because SL used to do the same kind of stuff in empire until empire wars stopped being what they used to be. We used to randomly wardec people just looking for some good fights. Sure there are a lot of ganks going on, but that happens just as much in 0.0, if not more.
It's just a shame that you have to wardec so many corps/alliances to keep up the supply of good fights. It's a testament to just how much empire wars suck now. Industry and carebear alliances that live in empire used to have pvpers among their ranks and would fight back, now they all just dock and hide and hope that you get bored and go away in a week. All of the big decent PvP alliances/corps are operating in 0.0 as that is where all of the action is.
Hopefully the flux of new players coming in will create some empire monster-corps/alliances again and make empire a fun place for pvp again, even for the people that don't want to have 123412321312 wardecs.
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Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Troubadour
You know, I've heard a lot of people *****ing about how privateers are just some kind of nuisence or empire hauler and shuttle gankers but I've been hesitant to believe it as I understand what it's about. Not everyone plays the game to build up some massive 0.0 alliance and hold space and all that other crap. That is good for some, but others just want to fight. No politics, no real logistics to worry about, no bullsh**. I get it.
That's what's so cool about it, yeah. I'm fed up with politics, I just want to get together with some mates and blow **** up.
Honestly, the "respect" I have for the privateers comes from the fact that they have found how to PLAY the GAME for FUN rather than treating it like a bloody job like so many people do these days. THAT is respectable, IMO. If you're not having fun, WHY PLAY?
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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Captain Hudson
Caldari
Rogue Arrow Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Honestly - at least watch some Privateer videos before you say this. These guys got some good fight in them. I, for one, respect what they do: they bring the fight, and have fun doing it.
Afterall, isn't "FUN" what this game is about?
err..why would I watch a carefully edited video, when I can fly to Jita and seem them ganking lone targets every day.
Fun...I'm sure it wasn't fun the por guy undocking in a lag fest, and those guys that pressed F1-F4 must have had a great time
No I haven't been ganked by PA, and I'm not bitter...tbh I give BOB more respect than PA. Especially DICE. They fight hard. And yes I am at war with the buggers, but at least I know a decent enemy when I see one.
And no...I am not an arm chair general...chk killboards...you will see me both killing and dying. ( am sorting out fraps now..laters )
That's all well and good - of course I know as well as you do that there is just as much lagfest+f1-f8 in 0.0, too. You do what you do for fun. They do what they do for fun. They make money by killing people. Nothing wrong with that. It's part of the game, mate!
the actions of ugluuk and his merry band of pwners dont represent that of privs as a whole.
Originally by: SPQRMocton
We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
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Mochalatte
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
btw..the Britney Spears hair do is so last week
Don't mock the hair!
SHE copied me. My lawyers will be in touch
POST WITH YOUR BOB MAIN!!!!!!!
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Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Hudson
the actions of ugluuk and his merry band of pwners dont represent that of privs as a whole.
OK, so they blow up haulers for cash.
Uhmm... how is that any different from what goes on anywhere else? They wouldn't be the first pirates to blow up haulers for cash in empire, let alone low sec or 0.0...
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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pylons38
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: JMcClane
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
IS this post needed?
You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death.
It's not a mystery as to what you do....
Look me up on our killboard mate... Check how many kills I've made in Jita.... You judge us all by the action of a few. As I explained above. We are not alike, though our alliance ticker may be the same!
Hey I remember you. You had railguns on your crow .... lol
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Darken Two
Gallente
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:02:00 -
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Edited by: Darken Two on 26/02/2007 03:59:02
Alright mate I'm a little confused here. From what you say, you seem to be implying that you wardec alliances, gank their haulers in empire, and then don't fight their gangs unless they bring an exactly even sized gang.
It seems you are justifying your desire to gank alliance haulers in empire by claiming desire for combat.
As much as posting on the forums to state your intentions might have made you feel better about what you do, it cannot hide what you actually do either.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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easei
Caldari
Energy.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:07:00 -
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So acording to everyone here (less JMC) People who haven't spent one minute in the alliance already know how it functions and try and correct JMC's post?
Is it really that suprising when 600 "INDIVIDUALS" <- clearly key word that voids any sweeping generalizations you all make.
The truth is major alliance members are puppets to their cause. The priviteers only help you by weeding out the people who carebear in empire and aren't in 0.0 and fighting along side you, yes?
Anyway all of you can laugh about priviteers (and most likly still will upon conclusion of reading this post) but if it didn't work and wasn't successful (or more importantly fun) then ask yourselves why do they continue to dish out billions week after week in wardecs.
go download ugluuks video http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=474700
It might be midly enlightening to the pyromaniacs in this thread. (and not because half the time his ship is on fire)
Originally by: Count Rayken
Just you wait Privy squad...just you wait.
It wouldnt take a corp of more than 30 organized PvPers to kick your ass much less every alliance in the game.
When this war is over, i'll lead ops yo ucatch your ass myself.
You are wrong, you can't fight them with organized tactics. How many others have said and actully done that? The answer is many, and they may get to gank a few here and there but a 30 man blob is only effective in 1 system at a time. 600 individuals is effective in 600 systems at any time.
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Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: easei
stuff
She gets it. o7
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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Exortius Amarrus
The Clearwater Society
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:17:00 -
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Oreh Anavrin
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:27:00 -
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If what you do is right/fun/righteous/whatveer and you aren't just "hauler gankers", why do you feel the need to come here and spam everyone telling us how you aren't hauler gankers?
Sounds like you are just trying to convince yourselves to be honest.
Never had anything against privateers, sounds like fun, but also sounds like you are trying to convince yourself more than anyone else.
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Leikeze Mrotserif
coracao ardente
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:52:00 -
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I gank haulers
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:53:00 -
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Ya, I'm sure it has nothing to do with getting haulers, nothing, man they present such a hardcore challenge, them battle-badgers....
Empire is your base because you can't make it in 0.0; it must be hard fighting lone guys on star-gates that don't have scramblers fitted eh?
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enjoi
Gallente
Turbulent Subversion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:54:00 -
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F***ing good post, tbh.
TBSV is a small (5-10 man gangs) PvP entity who has won 98% of it's fights and empires in war. We were considering joining privateers and had a chat with some of the CEO's.
One of the CEO's is a guy From Mentl, and his corp is about our size, and f***ing pro, and the other, from the Privateers corp itself.
They both told us the exact same thing as the guy in the OP himself; don't think of privateers as an Alliance entity, but as a collection of corps, uniting only in a common goal; to fight anything and everything that moves in Empire.
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
You hang around Jita and gank people undocking from station 4-4, when they are lagged by black screen of death.
Yes, it is retards like you why they need this thread. You think that people arent going to check a hub Station in a hub System every now and then? When you have 600+ people all scattered across EvE, seperately hunting for targets, yes you are going to get people going to the hubs. Tbh I doubt any one group stays there too long though, due to what's known as counter-response. Try checking the various corps killboards and I'm 100% sure that most of their kills won't be in actual hub Systems themselves.
Attacking a constructive and informative OP because of personal bias is lame. If you don't have anything to say other then flames, then noone in this thread wants to hear it, I'm sure.
And to all those saying thing's like
Originally by: Count Rayken
It wouldnt take a corp of more than 30 organized PvPers to kick your ass much less every alliance in the game
No, you're wrong. Because again you're making the assumption that the privateers is a united alliance. Which it isn't. It's just a loose federation of corps in it for the same goal. They are scattered across the entire of eve. You could never be in the same area as 30% of the Privateers at any given time.
Originally by: Count Rayken
No. They will only engage when its 2:1 their odds. Its not rumour. Its fact.
I'll give you all the money I own if you can find a Mentl gang that will run against even odds. No f***ing joke.
Originally by: Count Rayken
Its just your tactics during the war I disagree ith
I don't think you're seeing this right. All there is to it; War dec a Corp/Alliance, roam looking for targets. Lots of Alliances = lots of targets. Hub systems = lots of targets. It all boils down to targets.
These guys don't play in the same style as you in 00.
TBSV operates exactly the same as these guys [Only didn't join because some people in our corp didn't want to take the same kind of crap people are giving this thread]. We don't fancy 50+ J's in a lagfleet just so we can shoot at a huge 50+ man hostile fleet then go home. We like to log on, not knowing if our current wartargets are nextdoor, and we like to actively hunt for targets all over the eve universe. Most of the time, yes, we outnumber out victims; by pure circumstance. Having a gang of like 5 is a must if you're going to be fighting anyone who has an active memberbase of at least 5. If you get caught on your own, its your own fault. Against as many Alliance's and Corp's as the Privateers are fighting, sure they roll in numbers. But I bet when they get in an even fight, they love it. As anyone does.
Pretty much all I have to say.
The Privateers Alliance; The idea is great. Acess to 60% of EvE as a War-Target. The Members of Privateers; not all good but certainly not all bad. Don't discount them all because of some random from Priv's camping 4-4.
'joi
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Seana Elria
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Why is it so hard for some people accept that different people have fun in different ways?
Its more than likely due to the fact that those that operate out of 0.0 where all one has to protect them is simply contained within one's own ship and not provided by sentry guns and concord feel those entities operating within the comfort of empire (where dictor bubbles won't work) and only wardec those they choose and/or are paid to wardec (thus disallowing some other alliances from lending aid to those wardec'd since they themselves haven't been) are somehow lacking in confidence to face them in a place where there are no "strings attached" perse that are holding back any one side. Granted, for a corporation that is slightly smaller in terms of numbers/allies than those operating in 0.0, it could be suicide to attempt to face one's enemy out in 0.0, so I understand where PA's strategy is coming from, and its somewhat legitimate in my mind since those operating in 0.0 do have certain empire logistics to contend with that PA is targetting head on.
In short though, slight boo to PA for not joining the 0.0 fights but at the same time, props for making empire interesting and not having to travel too far for someone to shoot at (since to me personally, the more targets the better even if in empire).
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Calistro
Gallente
RABBLE-RABBLE
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Posted - 2007.02.26 05:09:00 -
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Instead our advantages lie in empire. Where we have our forces. Where we (most of the time) outnumber you. And where we have our 'hardware', ready to fight.
[ 2007.02.25 02:29:35 ] JMcClane > I have a dread guristas bc in the belt... can't break it's tank can you assist pleaseWe share loot?
*sends alt warping cloaked towards JMcClane at 100km*
Ohhh, a POS in low-sec. How surprising. The might of the Privateer alliance. "When you can't take em down, get a POS to do the job".
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Jonis Sinmaker
Valiant Logistics Inc.
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: enjoi
Attacking a constructive and informative OP because of personal bias is lame. If you don't have anything to say other then flames, then noone in this thread wants to hear it, I'm sure.
Enjoi...you are my life hero
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/me humps enjoi's face......twice.
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Talen Reaper
AUS Corporation
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 05:13:00 -
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we have been war decked by privateer haven't had the pleasure of an encounter as of yet but with them in jita & amarr & agil and camping gates on the main trade routs I am sure we will ...until then 
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Opium
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Posted - 2007.02.26 05:15:00 -
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shrug's alls good.. a targets a target...shootin somebody in the head is still shootin somebody in the head, the ppl who try to make more of that or less havnt seen someone shot in the head.there's no right or wrongway or a reason that matters,, only the bullet in the head matters.
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Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Seana Elria
In short though, slight boo to PA for not joining the 0.0 fights but at the same time,
Do you mean the current "world war" anti-bob bandwagon? If so... well, why boo them? It would appear that they are avoiding politics, which is probably something they set out to do.
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props for making empire interesting and not having to travel too far for someone to shoot at (since to me personally, the more targets the better even if in empire).
\o/
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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enjoi
Gallente
Turbulent Subversion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jonis Sinmaker
Enjoi...you are my life hero
♥
/me humps enjoi's face......twice.
/me ... likes it o_O
<3 Jonis
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