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Boogiez
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Posted - 2007.02.26 11:57:00 -
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Well Seems to its all About Jita 4-4 Personally myself i dont like to sit in jita and think i have close to 0 kill there there is alot of other good place to be ..
I dont get why people fly there then they know the risk and afterwards sitting and whining about it here ...
Its simple awoid Jita if you not willing to take the risk
Its Lovely there still are consequences in things People do in eve ...
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APT BANK
Amarr Alpha Production Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: APT BANK
Which alliance would that be? Can't see any corp or alliance ticker under your portrait.
/Ki
I hadnt intended to post on this char, it must ahve defaulted after reformatitng my hdd... at any rate, iv fixed the settings to show corp/alliance.
My intention wasnt to call everyone in empire noobs btw, but most of the alliance Privateers war decs, have their pvpers fighting in 0.0, while the noobs of those alliances are trying to find their feet in empire. I cant recruit noobs because they get shot down by privateers.
You want me to train my guys in 0.0? 1 day old noob killing a battleship? hell even cruisers would *****them, you tell me how logical it is to train noobs in 0.0, if thats the place to train and empire is the place to pvp, why dont ccp reverse the sec standings? lets make 0.0 carebear land and empire the place to be for pvp.....
fact is, empire war decs are to greif mission runners and miners. nothing more. if this isnt true, why war dec random corps, who frankly dont want to pvp? and i recon there are alot of these corps who will agree that they are not pvpers and there is no reason for privateers to war dec them except to grief.
my MAIN is Shuriath if you would like to know....
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thoth foc
Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: JMcClane
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: JMcClane
My experience and perception of the majority of PVP in 0.0 is that fleets move the markers. In order to participate in 0.0 you are required to do your part of this (which is more than fair)... I don't fancy this.. It doesn't give me any satiscation what so ever!
tbh, that is prolly were your experience is lacking..
It may be so, though I've tried flying as scout, battleship, support, carrier support and as part of the 'Dreadnaught, let's nuke that POS" squad... Neither of this gives me a hard on besides the fact that it's billions of isk being put on the line... It is however... to me... boring!
I've done that all too, that has it's place in 0.0 (a major place ofc), but so does solo/small group combat.. the difference in 0.0 is the risk is greater, the work needed is greater.. you dont get to run and hide in the local station..
If you've not experienced this type of PVP.. then your in no position to claim PA is anything more than lazy griefers tbh..
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:08:00 -
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tbh im envious, they must have alot of fun with as many wars as this.
they are doing what they want to do, i actually find empire more of a challenge to fight in than 0.0, where the blob rules and its very rare to see gangs of less than 50.
one thing though, they need to stop complaing when they get ganked, they do exactly the same thing to their war targets and need to accept it as part of the job.
eve is a game of bait and ganks.
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xHomicide
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
1. Everyone in Empire isn't a noob.
Not everyone, at any given time there are 4 to 5 decent pilots passing through empire on their way back to big boy land.
Originally by: Ki An
They are playing with the "big boys", but they chose to do so in Empire and not in 0.0. Is that hard to understand or something?
No, they really arn't. Is that hard to understand or somthing?
There is no doubt, having endless targets in empire provides endless hours of mindnumbing entertainment. I'm sure they do get some decent fights.
Nevertheless, the station-gank battles which consumes most empire wars are pathetic in comparison to organized 0.0 battles. Point being, the majority of empire based player would get creamed if they attempted to bring it to 0.0.
Not just in numbers and capital, but mainly in experiance and organization. --- http://www.razor-eve.org/killboard/?a=kills Your Signature exceeds max allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels. Mail us if you have any questions -Eldo |
Ki An
Gallente The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: xHomicide
Originally by: Ki An
1. Everyone in Empire isn't a noob.
Not everyone, at any given time there are 4 to 5 decent pilots passing through empire on their way back to big boy land.
I am very sorry, but that has to be one of the most arrogant lines I've read in this overly arrogant forum. Please, for your own sake, get off your high horse before you fall off.
Originally by: xHomicide
Originally by: Ki An
They are playing with the "big boys", but they chose to do so in Empire and not in 0.0. Is that hard to understand or something?
No, they really arn't. Is that hard to understand or somthing?
They are shooting the major alliances. The major alliances are at fault for not protecting their empire dwellers and those who like to afk travel through "safe" space. So, they are playing with the "big boys", but the "big boys" don't like to play.
Originally by: xHomicide
There is no doubt, having endless targets in empire provides endless hours of mindnumbing entertainment. I'm sure they do get some decent fights.
Nevertheless, the station-gank battles which consumes most empire wars are pathetic in comparison to organized 0.0 battles. Point being, the majority of empire based player would get creamed if they attempted to bring it to 0.0.
And it is my opinion that 0.0 blob warfare is utterly mindnumbingly boring and that it can in no way compare to the thrilling fun of empire small scale warfare. Do you see how this works? We like two different aspects of the game.
Originally by: xHomicide
Not just in numbers and capital, but mainly in experiance and organization.
But mainly in numbers and capital.
/Ki
Haven't got one yet? Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
JMcClane
Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: JMcClane
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: JMcClane
My experience and perception of the majority of PVP in 0.0 is that fleets move the markers. In order to participate in 0.0 you are required to do your part of this (which is more than fair)... I don't fancy this.. It doesn't give me any satiscation what so ever!
tbh, that is prolly were your experience is lacking..
It may be so, though I've tried flying as scout, battleship, support, carrier support and as part of the 'Dreadnaught, let's nuke that POS" squad... Neither of this gives me a hard on besides the fact that it's billions of isk being put on the line... It is however... to me... boring!
I've done that all too, that has it's place in 0.0 (a major place ofc), but so does solo/small group combat.. the difference in 0.0 is the risk is greater, the work needed is greater.. you dont get to run and hide in the local station..
If you've not experienced this type of PVP.. then your in no position to claim PA is anything more than lazy griefers tbh..
I've spend the majority of my eve time being an underdog in 0.0 working as a pirate! I know smaller gang tactics in 0.0 as well... It's a lot like what we do in empire right now, just less targets to shoot!
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xHomicide
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:44:00 -
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Ki An:
You act like 0.0 combat is nothing but blobs... Believe it or not small gang combat is allowed in 0.0; its just missing the extra 400 neutrals floating around, random people taking your loot, the ability to station hump in every system, the lag, the random concord death, and the lame ganks as people black-screen out of stations.
0.0 is like free empire wars...minus all the lame.
Most combat oriented players realize this and move, the carebears stay in empire. This is why empire wars are lame, by war deccing an alliance you are affectively declaring war on their 'carebears'. The PvP driven players could care less, they have the lame-free combat they desire in 0.0 space, why would they travel into the lameness to fight the lamers? --- http://www.razor-eve.org/killboard/?a=kills Your Signature exceeds max allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels. Mail us if you have any questions -Eldo |
Yakti
Hedion University
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:52:00 -
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So, in response to the people who don't like empire wars (D2, AAA, CA and all the others), it is ok to bandwagon together and get 5 to 1 numbers in 0.0, but it is not ok to do some empire wars, even for ganking?
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Templer Relleg
x13 Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Templer Relleg You guys dont get it.
I joined privateers less then a week ago. And i have REAL fun. ...
And seeing that empire is so much more fun...
Maybe the reason for all that 'fun' is because there are no real opponents fighting back? Easy fights, easy kills? No risk of getting spanked if you mess up with the wrong people? Sure you can do all that, but in my eyes it is nothing to be proud of. And I can't see the fun there either.
No risk no fun
You didnt quote the whole post, and didnt read all i said. People DO fight back, and theres 1 certain alliance who are in empire atm, just to gank US.
There is alot of risk in empire. Its basically 0.0 with too many stations(I would love to see them removed)
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xHomicide
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: xHomicide on 26/02/2007 12:58:54
Originally by: Yakti So, in response to the people who don't like empire wars (D2, AAA, CA and all the others), it is ok to bandwagon together and get 5 to 1 numbers in 0.0, but it is not ok to do some empire wars, even for ganking?
Has nothing to do with it, the issue is, why not just bring it to 0.0 so we can fight without the bull**** of empire?
Every other PvPer in the universe of eve figured it out.
Unless you're mainly seeking to gank haulers? --- http://www.razor-eve.org/killboard/?a=kills Your Signature exceeds max allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels. Mail us if you have any questions -Eldo |
Templer Relleg
x13 Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Templer Relleg on 26/02/2007 13:02:02 And if us privateers are so bad, how about you take a PvP 101(NOT just how to shoot at pos, or blob a gate), and come and beat us?
You talk like we are crap at pvp. Prove it, come and fight us. Im sure we will both enjoy it!
This ofc. is my own opinien.
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Ki An
Gallente The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: xHomicide Ki An:
You act like 0.0 combat is nothing but blobs... Believe it or not small gang combat is allowed in 0.0; its just missing the extra 400 neutrals floating around, random people taking your loot, the ability to station hump in every system, the lag, the random concord death, and the lame ganks as people black-screen out of stations.
I am well aware of this. Problem is, you seem to regard empire warfare as nothing more than station camping, which is far from the truth as well. I have had fun fleet fights, but I have more fun in small scale engagements, and the things you see as lame I appreciate. The lag is not heavy if you stay away from the hubs. Concord don't shoot random people. Some people actually use the stations as part of their tactics (wether you feel it's lame or not). We do not, however, have LAME stuff such as interdictor bubbles and sit around a gate all day long ganking noobs like 0.0 corps do
Originally by: xHomicide
0.0 is like free empire wars...minus all the lame.
Empire isn't free, but it's very fun, and you don't have to worry about politics or finding a place to dock for the night. So, in short, it's like 0.0 minus all the lame. Again
Originally by: xHomicide
Most combat oriented players realize this and move, the carebears stay in empire.
Some combat oriented players - such as myself - tried 0.0, didn't enjoy it much, and went back to empire. If that makes me lame, then I guess I am. I am having fun though. I hope you are too.
Originally by: xHomicide
This is why empire wars are lame, by war deccing an alliance you are affectively declaring war on their 'carebears'. The PvP driven players could care less, they have the lame-free combat they desire in 0.0 space, why would they travel into the lameness to fight the lamers?
So you're saying that the Privateers are lame for deccing every major alliance in EVE, because those alliances can't protect their carebears in empire (wtf???)? Wouldn't that make you lame, 'cause you can't be arsed to jump into empire to protect your alliance mates, so you whine about it on the forums instead?
Not really trying to flame, it just comes out of it's own. I just feel this whole argument is so silly it's almost untrue.
/Ki
Haven't got one yet? Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
kill0rbunny
Chimera Intelligence Agency
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: xHomicide Nevertheless, the station-gank battles which consumes most empire wars are pathetic in comparison to organized 0.0 battles. Point being, the majority of empire based player would get creamed if they attempted to bring it to 0.0. Not just in numbers and capital, but mainly in experiance and organization.
Hmm, Blobbing one shuttle with 30 Gatecampers is indeed very risky and intelligent. Or are you talking about the recent great fun of cyno-doomsday, which everybody whines about? I wonder why they all whine that those great battles don't happen anymore when in your mind obviously the do happen. -
I got a portrait now, wheeeee! \o/
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thoth foc
Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: JMcClane I've spend the majority of my eve time being an underdog in 0.0 working as a pirate! I know smaller gang tactics in 0.0 as well... It's a lot like what we do in empire right now, just less targets to shoot!
yes, well that's exactly why i believe that the wardec limit should be re introduced. I dont believe that meaningless PVP should be easier to find in empire than in 0.0 _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB) |
Kather
Amarr Evil Proctologists
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:21:00 -
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so, from what i can work out here, if u live in 0.0, you are an uber pvp'r, and if u dont, u're not. ok, i spent almost a year living (and fighting) in 0.0. i guess then, that during that time, i was an awesome pvp'r!! wow brilliant. now however, i live and do a fair chunk of my pvp in empire. i can actually FEEL that my skills at pew pewing have decreased.
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Nuyan Zahedi
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:23:00 -
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Bruno Capri
Minmatar The Scarecrows
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:16:00 -
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Is what PA doing much different to what most other alliances do when they operate in 0.0 territory? I mean if I came out to your area in 0.0, you would most probably gank me as soon as you saw me, right? This is just roles reversed; most 0.0 alliances are content to hold their space, make lots of isk from rare ores, pirate loot & complexes and kill all who do not fly under their flag. And still feel safe when they venture back to empire; well not anymore...
Ok, so that was kinda pro PA, but there are some things that I think are a little unbalanced. Most of the corps in PA (with the exception of Privateers Corp, BYDI, and a few others) seem to join & leave PA on a regular basis. Now this may be for various reasons but it means these corps choose when to fight and when not to. Corps within 0.0 alliances probably don't have such luxuries. You could argue that if an individual wants to go back to empire then they can leave the corp but isn't this against the rules or frowned upon?
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moumou78
JASDIP
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:30:00 -
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My understanding is that Privateers are a mercenary alliance. They are hired by some entity to distrub and harass the empire flow and operations of their targets. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Its a nuissance and thats how its meant to be. As for their tactics they are nothing short of typical empire piracy.Not all pirates are gutless corwardly **** heads. As any pvper, it makes perfect sense to keep good odds in your favour.
I was shot at by members of privateer in the past and shot back. Though no hard feelings its all a game
Peace out
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Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 26/02/2007 13:02:02 And if us privateers are so bad, how about you take a PvP 101(NOT just how to shoot at pos, or blob a gate), and come and beat us?
You talk like we are crap at pvp. Prove it, come and fight us. Im sure we will both enjoy it!
This ofc. is my own opinien.
Thats hard to do. Im sure there are some..like your corp that fight. But the other 400+ log, or dock as soon as more than one person in a pvp alliance shows up in anything other than a hauler or a mission raven. This ofc is my opinion.
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:36:00 -
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can I join?
Dark-Rising
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Lilyeth
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 26/02/2007 01:56:31
Originally by: JMcClane Look me up on our killboard mate... Check how many kills I've made in Jita.... You judge us all by the action of a few. As I explained above. We are not alike, though our alliance ticker may be the same!
Well if that is what you are trying to explain, then maybe you should stop inviting just about everyone into your alliance.
Yesterday, I flew my alt down to Jita...and sat and watched. So dont call me retard. Its pathetic at best what they do there
Edit..next time I'm there, I will screen shot the can in front of docking port. its hard enough to undock from Jita without cheap tricks like that. btw..my alt is the sexy chick in a rifter
You are one hell of a stupid guy, arent you?
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin i wasnt arguing that your t2 frigs are a wrong tactic... i understand that you need fast lock... but i find it annoying that the risks privateers take are miniscule in comparison to those we have to take... and lets face it... the majority of PA does not fly terribly expencive ships into pvp on regular engagements... on several occasions infact you just see a swarm of t1 frigs destroyers and cruisers... so preaching that you do take risks is a load of crap.
Because I don't fly T2 ships I don't take risks? That is the dumbest friggen reason for dumping crap on the Privateers I have read on the forums so far. This just makes me want to stop training up to fly the T2 ships I have my eye on just to tweek your friggen nose.
What is that saying I always read on the forums? Oh right, it's "Only fly what you can afford to lose". Are you telling me I should place all my hard earned isk (from all those hauler ganks I have done) and buy the most expensive ship I can, load it up with millions of isk in guns and modules, then fly it out and get it blown up and have no isk left to replace it? If that is the case then I don't give a rats ass about ever having your respect in this game.
The only people that have given me crap in Empire are jackasses who come in from 0.0 expecting an easy ride through Empire cause they don't know what the hell they are doing. The ones I respect are the so-called carebears who at least learn from their mistakes. A majority of the so-called carebears in Empire that I have helped blast into space dust have not smacked us in local. The Alliance carebears in Empire should leave these broke **** 0.0 Alliances because they can't even tell em how to set up the overview to help avoid the Privateers. I have no respect for a majority of the 0.0 Alliances due to the fact that they can't even be bothered to protect their Empire brothers and sisters.
The above are my opinions and has nothing to do with the Privateer Alliance. ---------------------- Boom goes the ship! Squish goes the pilot!
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Talen Reaper
AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:49:00 -
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this Sunday I thought I would make me some miner alts for mining in empire as my mains are in oo and fighting in the war ..
I made 3 alts all Frenches ..better mining starter stats (drones) on the way to were I was planning to put them there is a .4 on my way through with my 5 min old chars what do I find but 2 privateer`s gate camping in a domi & a cepter and a bunch of dead noob`s ..they didn't get me they tried like hell but for some reason couldn't hit my noob ship ...
if this is the type of risks you take then tanking a gate gun & nosing noobs while the cepter takes them down then I applaud you ...cause this must be great fun
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Monkey Spankah
coracao ardente Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Monkey Spankah on 26/02/2007 16:16:58
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif I gank haulers
/signed
EDIT: Plus 0.0 is not the big boy land. I've spent a good 3 quarters of my time in eve in 0.0 and all i can say is BORING. sure GNW was fun EWW will be fun. but when its all over it goes back to NAP land. I much prefer fighting with you guys in empire. sure we win some we lose some but its better then crashing a node in deep 0.0, i know our small 4 on 4s are 5 times as much fun as the mega blobs happening right now and im sure if you ask the alliance members who have been involved in these small fair skirmashes they will agree, Meh all i have to say enjoy the mega blob and primarys ill be having real fun.
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Kai page
coracao ardente Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Kai page on 26/02/2007 16:31:49
Originally by: darth solo tbh im envious, they must have alot of fun with as many wars as this.
they are doing what they want to do, i actually find empire more of a challenge to fight in than 0.0, where the blob rules and its very rare to see gangs of less than 50.
one thing though, they need to stop complaing when they get ganked, they do exactly the same thing to their war targets and need to accept it as part of the job.
eve is a game of bait and ganks.
d solo.
d solo has got it we have fun. 0.0 blobs and ganks just as much as empire does. There are some decent pvpers and some bad ones in privateers, like all alliances. Small scale even figths are hard to find these days but we get a few. insurgency have come to empire looking for figths and have got a lot of kills out of it, so props for them for brining the fight to privateers. Decadance did this aswell yesterday and privateers brought out a gang and it was all "gf" in local afterwards. Sure privateers gank alot of people but so do 0.0 alliances aswell.
edit: spelling
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Omerph
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:44:00 -
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Most of these post sound like folks that are upset they can't fly safe through Empire. This is the whole point about the Pirvateers, we are here to make sure Empire is no longer safe for you to AFK your Freighter. With the policy for allowing members into the corp and Alliance, sure you might find some that will dock or use stupid tactics, but this might be because they are alts of your Alliance mates looking to have some fun.
I've spent me entire Eve life living in 0.0 or pirating in low sec. I can say this has been the most fun I've had in a long time and a lot of my former corp mates feel the same since they've joined in the fun.
You may call us cowards or other things, but in reality we are all pirates that have finally figured out that the really good loot is in Empire. Keep flying those Faction Battleships full of tech 2 gear, it helps pay the bills.
And yes I will fight you if I see you, because I have no problem using tech 2 ships.
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Templer Relleg
x13 Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kai page
edit: spelling
Couldnt care about the spelling. But your sig rocks!!
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JMcClane
Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: JMcClane on 26/02/2007 17:07:48
Originally by: Mitch Taylor can I join?
Contact me ingame (after you unblock me) and I'm sure we can work something out :)
Nice gang you guys threw after us when we decced you btw... Unfortunetely... I was the only one online at the time and didn't feel a greater urge to test neither my crow nor my dominix against your 20-25 man large cruiser gang :)
Hope we can even the odds a bit on a later date and get a decent fight!
BTW... My best to all those who spend their time in Paragon Soul. May you live in safety and prosper.
PS. I miss you lot!
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Mr Filth
Xenophobes
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:45:00 -
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I think The Privateer alliance is an excellent idea. I do however fail to see the correlation between a challenge and wardeccing a "n00b" corp.
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