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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.12.18 13:29:00 -
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This thread is pure comedy. 
If ignorance was sunlight, we'd all have skincancer by now.
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LargeNuts
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Posted - 2003.12.18 13:36:00 -
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New MWD's SUCK. So, playablity = BAD. Can't get motivated to play. Thumbs WAY down.
Also, who's bright idea was it to cut security ratings in half? Now we have some of the worst people rats free to roam empire. Another stupid decision by CCP. I hope they just shut off the servers for good.
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Bilabong
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Posted - 2003.12.18 13:40:00 -
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Plz nerf the 0.0 spawns 
I took about 5 BS to kill one off last night?..... then they respawned in bout 30 sec....
How are we ever gonna mine bist without a 20BS fleet?
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Tipsy
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Posted - 2003.12.18 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tipsy on 18/12/2003 13:53:18
I don't mind the MWDs too much and I like the use of agents (and I'm certainly excited by the prospect of new tech, thank you devs  )... but I don't really like having all these BS pirates everywhere. I'd really prefer it if something along the lines of one BS and two cruisers spawned every 10 minutes in the farest away regions of 0.0, or perhaps only in the areas where reasonable quantites of Arkonor are to be found.
Trying to push people into <0.5 by making life in 0.0 very difficult isn't really the way to do it, even if it is exceedingly profitable for those who venture out there successfully.
This talk of "very very difficult" NPCs...fair enough. If you want to make indidvual NPCs very tough, like a tech2 megathron which is 50% more difficult to take down than a player megathron, okay. Having a couple of them spawn with 5 cruisers or similar (and perhaps even worse in higher security systems like 10 or more frigates) is just silly.
As a whole I like this patch, but I think it's important that the devs realise that NPC difficulty is absolutely joined with their distribution. "very very very" hard shouldn't mean "tough NPCs...and ten of them". While there are a fair few people who have said "I warped into a 0.0 belt and made 15 mil in an hour!" there are far more who've gone "you've broken mining!"...and for this once I'm going to have to side with the majority.
Please fix this - is one or two systems per 0.0 constellation with these "very very very difficult" spawns totally unreasonable?
I like this game, I won't quit, I just want it so it's a challenge without being completely evil 
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Tsaya
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Posted - 2003.12.18 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Tsaya on 18/12/2003 14:06:22
Why do so manz ppl still whine about the rat BSs?
The devs already admitted that it is a failure\bug, and that theyll change it, so you can stop that.
If you think you should whine about the current state as if it were intended, which part of: "And as with large patches, expect a bumpy ride the next couple of days - so be careful out there ;-)" didnt you understand? (Quote from news)
Cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.18 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tsaya on 18/12/2003 14:06:22
Why do so manz ppl still whine about the rat BSs?
The devs already admitted that it is a failure\bug, and that theyll change it, so you can stop that.
If you think you should whine about the current state as if it were intended, which part of: "And as with large patches, expect a bumpy ride the next couple of days - so be careful out there ;-)" didnt you understand? (Quote from news)
Cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it.
Quoted for emphasis.
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Semjasa
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Posted - 2003.12.18 14:26:00 -
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If this is what CCP call an upgrade it h8 to see one of there **** ups.
Not that this will mean anything to anyone but if it stays as it is im canceling all my accounts.
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sloop
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Posted - 2003.12.18 14:29:00 -
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WTS 35 bestowers owned by my corp
nuff said bunch of ****
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.18 14:36:00 -
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WTS 35 bestowers owned by my corp
nuff said bunch of ****
can you fly them to new caldari? I'll pick 'em up there.
If it's not too much trouble, could you pack all your stuff in them first?
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Nirces Y'Tuk
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Posted - 2003.12.18 14:38:00 -
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its a joke. I joined this game because of manufacturing options and the continuing developement of these, but what do we have
Agent missions to get research skills
Agent Missions to get research Tools
Agent Missions to get Blueprints
Agent Missions to get Required Componets
I DID NOT JOIN UP TO DO AGENT MISSIONs
Not that i even can, so far today i've do my first 4 agent missions and gained a total of 0.01% standing, meaning i'm looking at 400! missions just to get to 5% (which is wiped out every week) I did some agent missiosn before with my other account and got 0.05 per mission, rather than 0.00296, i only play for a couple of hours a day, i don;t have tiome for this crap
Can;t use my other account full stop, can;t mine or kill, npcs just eat me alive, the corp i play in i have very other other peep online at the same time, but i have a deep level of trust i cannot trnasfer to another corp, even if i wanted to. My play time matchs the lowest amount of players online anyway.
I am a semi solo, casual player who is looking at crap right now, i'm putting alot of it down to bugs/mistakes thats going to be corrected, but if its not, you just lost another player, shame i really think this game has alot of potention, but i have found myself unable to play at this time
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Ivana Killya
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Posted - 2003.12.18 15:12:00 -
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OMG pychian vanervi you are such a tit ! this post is 4 people who are not happy with the castor so why dont you stop these PATHITIC POSTS **** off to i love castor u bleep ! let people have a say. thank god they are not all as snip as you show yourself to be grow up u muppet
removed the n0rty bits -Eris Discordia
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Gandy
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Posted - 2003.12.18 15:14:00 -
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This patch has killed the game for me and me 7 man corp, the one thing I like about this game was the way u picked what u wanted to do I my self was mining, working really hard to get me BS then get out in .0 system to mine and it was never a bed of roses, there was a few times I nearlly lost me BS but I was ok with that, the game showed me U don't have to be a megacorp to make money, before this patch we were busy mining to make 2 tempest of other corp members we had most of the mins bar the mega which we were going to but and would have cost us around 60mill ish for both ships now with the ptch it's costin just under 120mill for it  ur corp is going to die I can see it coming were as before we r now been forced to do other trades, this Game was about do what the hell u like pick what u want to do and train for it. Not no more, Pychian flame me as much as u like but to me CCP have snip the game for small corps. I'm all for changes but this is silly.
removed n0rty bit -Eris Discordia
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Casca
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Posted - 2003.12.18 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Casca on 18/12/2003 15:55:48
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To all you fools who now hate Eve and all the new Castor stuff, would you prefer they gave you everything on a platter?
I mean you want super fast, super strong ships of all types that can insta jump, lock in a second and kill rats all day with your eyes closed. You want BP's given to you on your first agent mission, all roids with top end minerals within 2 jumps of a station with 2 10k rats defending. Add to that you want to be able to sell it for 20k but buy it if needed for 5k!!!!
You want to be a jack of all trades specialised in all, completely self sufficient and never need to use another's skills. You want to never have to leave the pilot seat of you uber BS and use a frigate to make the 10 jumps to get a new skill.
Basically I with all that it sounds like you guys want a game that you just win win everytime, and even if you lose your insurance more than covers the cost.
I was going to say about not giving a f**k what you narrow minded people think but I would be lying. I fear all the ranting you are doing is not only putting off current player but possibly helping to stop and new players joining.
Keep going and you will all have your way, but until that final day comes I will be here and having fun!!!!
No that is not what I want but I also don't like that fact that I logged on when I got home to look a castor took my ship outfitted for pure combat and went a belt. 2 days before with a third of what I had on the ship I could have stayed out there all day I stayed out from the belts some. The first spawn was not to bad but good thing I had out fitted my ship for combat no problem. The next spawn there were 4 85k and out of a total 20 pirates none were less than 55k and they spawn on top of me. I throught that the pirates had been to easy but my ship lasted about 30 seconds it was a fully equiped apoc and if this sounds like I'm crying your probably right but it took me months to get the BB and I had been careful not to get into situation I could not handle to come on after the patch and loose my ship that fast sorry the pirates did not get a little harder they were not even what I would have called alot harder they were insane personely some where about half way in between would have been just about right but it goes back to what i have said earlier make small changes not these huge changes because there is no way to have an idea how to set up for them. but to go from being able to set out there all day and yes that was far to easy to dieing in 30 seconds with no chance is wrong. And why wait months to make changes make a few along that would more follow life. and would give people a chance to adjust then if you lost your ship totally your fault but there were so many changes there was no way to adjust unless you were one of the lucky ones that had time to play on the test server.
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kolobos
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Posted - 2003.12.18 15:50:00 -
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the npcs are a big problem:
1... there are too many of them
2... if you are going to put in cruiser pirates, get it right. just wondering if any1 else noticed that the sancha maller rats fire missiles? is it just me, but the last time i checked, mallers didnt have missile turret slots.( this fact led to the destruction of my bs :( )
rool back would be the smartest move ccp make to date id say.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:05:00 -
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A good thread to read on patch forums, with an answer from Papa Smurf is here.
Thank you
-Eris Discordia
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:07:00 -
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but there were so many changes there was no way to adjust unless you were one of the lucky ones that had time to play on the test server.
..or one of the lucky ones that read the news when they logged in and recieved the warning about the NPC's being a lot tougher.
It's all beside the point though. The devs are aware of the monster spawns, and are fixing it.
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Michel Licari
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:08:00 -
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Travel time has increased incredibly.
'To fight when others fold, pursue while others retreat. conquer while others quit and make right when all else is wrong' |
Emily
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:21:00 -
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When Castor initially took place, I was ready to quit and cancel all my accounts. Then I thought that the majority probably wouldn't like it and voice that dislike and the dev's would take notice. What I find is that the Dev's might take notice but probably will tweek the game. I don't like Castor simply because the changes made trashed almost everything accomplished to date. Skills, ships, building a corp up, manufacturing, and moving into less secure areas to accomplish more.
The way the posts in the pro castor thread read is "run and gun, shoot em up I want to kill stuff" type of players love this patch. The posts in the negative castor seem to be the long haul building type players who found everything they've build substantially changed and there's no way to reclaim it.
Hopefully CCP dev will find a middle ground
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Newg Runecasting
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:27:00 -
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As Per Polaris (locked the other thread)....
Here is my rant...
It's about CTD's when Pirates (NPC) attack and losing drones/almost losing ships in .7 space (wondering what happens when in lower space and NPC Pirates cause CTD's)
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Anima1
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:31:00 -
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Devs could you pls block pychian vanervi from entering flames on the post versus players voicing THEIR views on this thread which this was created for. It was not created to voice and get ridiculed for what you think. He has a thread to go to if he likes it.
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Frolow
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:31:00 -
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I have tried to remain as objective as possible in accepting the new changes but as a member of a small corp I find it difficult to see the overall positive changes castor has to offer for small corporations. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Most of what I have to say has already been said. For the first time in months I am at a loss as to what I can do on eve other than agent missions or joining a large corp and becoming someones *****.
Thanks eve dev team for giving me a good reason to get back to the real world.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:35:00 -
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OMG pychian vanervi you are such a tit ! this post is 4 people who are not happy with the castor so why dont you stop these PATHITIC POSTS **** off to i love castor u bleep ! let people have a say. thank god they are not all as snip as you show yourself to be grow up u muppet
removed the n0rty bits -Eris Discordia
So what you going to defend the I hate the new patch aswell and help to let Eve drop out of existance.
I just want to make sure where ever there is hate I can show some love.
Nobody has given it a chance so should I give them a chance, as far as I am concerned I stick with my posts. And as for the I am cancelling posts, they will forever be FOOLS!!
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:47:00 -
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My biggest beef is the Tech 1 Looted Webbers.
These things now reduce the speed of a ship by 99.5%!
All the other changes i will adapt to, and am having fun with, but this seems extreme at the least.
What will tech 2 webbers be like?
Sorry if this has been mentioned, dont wanna trawl thru 13 pages
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Hodokie Seek
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Posted - 2003.12.18 17:23:00 -
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Though I have not been to 0.0 since the patch, I do like the ballancing of shps, it does bring back cruisers and frigates as viable combat platforms in a fleet.
Warping into belts is a little screwy as you enter into the belt bouncing around roids, least that's what's been happening with me.
The spead changes I don't mind as much and can remain the same.
Love the fact that Armor Repairers use low slots now and maybe there are some EW stuff that can use high slots.
Other then that, think we are on the write track.
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[07:11:41] Hodokie Seek > k, will probably go in my Tristan.
[07:12:18] xxxx > tristan? is it a hazardous area?
[07:12:27] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:34] xxxx > nuts
[07:12:37] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:52] xxxx > wouldn't be so bad, but i'd hate to lose my implants
[07:13:06] xxxx > i'll go in my omen
/emote Hodokie Seek <---- No implants and no brains.
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Terrek
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Posted - 2003.12.18 17:24:00 -
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100% Dissapointed with this patch. The excessive time it takes to travel anywhere is unacceptable. Even with the new MWD / AB's it is nothing compared to how it used to be. I have become more disapointed with CCP's game development after every patch. EVE used to be a "FUN" game to play, after each patch the "FUN Factor" has gone down considerably. The players of EVE are asking for a "CONTENT" patch not a "REMOVAL of CONTENT" patch. I mean not only are the MWD's / AB's nerfed but various other things are just not acceptable.
1. MWD's / AB's Nerf
2. Mining Lasers drain capacity?!?!?!?
3. NPC Demand or market is virtually non-exsistent
I understand CCP believes people were making to much money before hand, but now making money has become more like "WORK" than "FUN"
If a game isn't "FUN" to play then the player basis for that game will diminish. Personally I am getting tired of paying for a game that has been all to slow to introduce content and then when they do they change the whole dynamics of the game. I have been training my character for months with a specific direction in mind. Now I must change that direction entirely as the old direction I was heading is no longer profitable. Please listen to your player basis before you lose it.
100% agree. I spend many time for becoming a good skilled trader and now anything is not worth anymore 
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Stuart Ward
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Posted - 2003.12.18 17:32:00 -
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Things i don't like :
1)Travel time is too slow ( i now tend to spend half my time Alt/Tabbing reading forums more than playing the game.
2) Scanner is screwed, you can see which station you are jumping too, especially if two have similar names.
3) MWD takes up far too much cap, travelling more than 20k wipes it out meaning that you enter an area unable to defend yourself.
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Lockheed
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Posted - 2003.12.18 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lockheed on 18/12/2003 17:48:13
Ok, it took me 2 hours to get to my alliance lastnight from civ space. Problem: 2km distance from gate b4 you can jump.
I had friends in trouble with a spawn I had to beef up shields on my scorp to make sure I was gonna survive, took me ages moving at 139 for 18km to jump.
YES IT IS CONFIRMED THAT PIRATES ARE HAVING A FIELD DAY AND MAKING TRIPPLE THE AMOUNT OF ISK THEY USUALLY MAKE. Everyone that comes in the choke points are imediately locked webbed and scrambled by a frigate b4 they can move. Rest assured that your loss is their gain. Funny thing is.. the choke points will be non-existant if you guys never bring stuff through fd. With the current rate of mining ore in 0.0 the pirates may dry up down there. Keep attackin them, never bring valuables through there, and they will leave. If you keep shipping mega/zyd in a bs and think you can get through.. try it... but I dont think you'll make it.
While the people that travel have to suffer at the gate squatters expense of their beautiful and enticing whines about not making 100mill each week.
Well carebears (myself included) we did not voice our opinions early enough so we have to put up with waiting til they tune this right. Acceleration is doomed and wont come back unless you all voice that it should. Dual mwds on the bs was our only escape from being locked/webbed/scrambled b4 you can even turn your ship. That was our only defense and ccp has taken it away.
People say a bs should not be able to take off fast or move quickly. heh in bigger cars, they have 8-12 cylinders and can handle just as well if not better than a pepped up rice rocket 4 banger. So due to this i would say the bigger the ship the bigger the engines... equal amount of acceleration/duration. I mean no volkswagen 4cyl stock is gonna out perform a pontiac 6 cyl, no 6 cyl stock is gonna out perform an 8 cyl mustang... etc.
See where im commin from?
The use of continual power to maintain speed in eve is not great either, you should have to expend just as much thrust to stop as you used to get you to that speed. You dont just stop in space. --- so that is for all you "its more realistic" people.
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Phayph
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Posted - 2003.12.18 17:46:00 -
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Well solo Rat hunting in 0.0 space is all but dead, for those of us that liked the work of the Lone Freelancers hunting npc pirates in deep space you can now forget it.What I would like to know will these Npc Rat be tweaked down or is this the future as not everyone likes to play as large gangs or corps, and this seams to be the only option now????
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awebon
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Posted - 2003.12.18 18:04:00 -
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Ok, CCP have done a marvelous job sofar up until they decieded to NERF THE WHOLE GAME. I agree making pirates harder should be done but to make them stupidlky hard is unaccpectable really. , how is any meant to make isk, build ship without losing as many ships as they can build. 5-6 bs's are needed to go and mine the rare ores: Bistot, Crokite etc, i dont think CCP have taken into account that there are smaller corps in eve which jus cant do this. they are jus gona lose more ships and they are going to be harder to replace with ship prices goin through the roof, not to mention the prices of the rare minerals needed to make them.
Come on guys (CCP) make it fairer to the smaller corps in the game that dont stand a chance with what u've done. And jus think u may lose cutomers if things carry on the way ur going cos they jus wont b able to compete with big corps, alliances.
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Fencer
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Posted - 2003.12.18 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Fencer on 18/12/2003 19:02:09
has some good features, but overall has ruined gameplay; as is more bad features than good
am also gonna add comment's: that if this was done to force smaller corps and loners into joining larger corps than that is simply a terrible mistake. as most who play as freelance/loners, and like smaller corps will simply leave.
I think you, CCP, will also find that there are more people playing the loner/small corp roles than you will find in your larger mega corps.
if you had wished for mega corps only you should have forced each race type to join 1 faction/corp, instead allowing everybody chance to make thier own way
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