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Remington
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Posted - 2003.12.18 00:31:00 -
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Whose idea was it to make the game impossible? I HAD a bs, now it's gone and prices have gone up incredibly overnight. Replacing a bs is impossible now!!!npc's are impossible for the small corp or loner. Ccp has effectively killed off small corps, and everyone will need to join the large megacorps if they ever want to do anything other than mine in this game. Madness and fish!!!
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Dontius Tarris
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Posted - 2003.12.18 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dontius Tarris on 18/12/2003 00:37:56
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CCP agrees that the distrabution was not working correct but they are not replacing ships killed by the NPC over spawn/distrabution problem. The mounting problems have been stated allrdy above ie: not being able to mine the ore needed to build ships ect ect. CCP you pretty much killed game play IMHO . It wont be long before people quit! CCP should do a roll back and fix the NPC thing asap.
Cancled one of my accounts allrdy since it was up for billing in 2 days . other 2 accounts have about a week or so before re-billing. As I see it ill let ccp run there game how they want but without my $38.85 per month 
Wanted to Say so long to my buddies. Take it easy =) catch ya on the next RPG!
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Cuisinart
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Posted - 2003.12.18 00:44:00 -
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I hate Castor, plain and simple. Other than the introduction of T2. I don't like any of the changes made. (I wouldn't mind the npc spawn changes if there was a middle ground)
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.12.18 00:53:00 -
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2) NPC BSs are riduculous from what I've heard (no personal experience cause I"m too scared now). At a 150k bounty and BSs that are far superior to player BSs, it is nowhere near worth it to hunt large npcs...you would need a fleet of BSs to do so (see #1).
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a 150k pirate would be a weak battleship, if its even a BS. Battleship pirates with bounties up to 1 million ISK have been reported, and 500k bounties are common.
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Deadzone
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:29:00 -
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In addition to my previous post about changing the NPC spawn rate, it also came to my attentio having the ability warp to an object @ 75km and then 100km. This would help out people some with the new spawns if they remained the same.
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Deadzone
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Deadzone on 18/12/2003 01:30:55
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Vice-Admiral
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Military Command
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Tassadar Beta
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:33:00 -
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I love this game well I did, I have been here throughout the beta, put up with computer crashes every 5minutes but nothing compares to how wrong CCP got it with this Patch.
NPCs were fine pre-patch all that was needed was a sprinkling of tougher cruisers and battleship npcs in 0.0 in addition to the spawns we already had.
The NPC spawns could be done solo but now unless your tanked up with half your corp dont even think about it.
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Capn Blood
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:34:00 -
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I'd like to see what sort of story they try to concoct to shoehorn all this lot into!!
Or have we just given up on story?
May as well just delete all the background stuff and have Red team, Blue team, green team and yellow team.
Can't have a persistent world that changes so drastically overnight...certainly not a believable one.
The sooner Warhammer Online Beta starts the better....shame cos this game looked like something a bit different and promising 6 months ago 
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NITE Hawk
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:36:00 -
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I hate the Patch.!! It was slow enough, and Minner's drain Cap. Go get new MWD & at half the speed.
GO GET A NEW GAME!!!! 0 monthly fee
bye
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 18/12/2003 01:47:22
I CANT PLAY THE GAME NEATHER EVER SINCE THAT PATCH
THAT PATCH IS NOT A PATCH ITS A VIRUS THAT MAKE PEOPLE SCURE UP THERE COMPUTERS AND THE GAME, SO CCP IF U ARE LISTANING TO THIS PLEASE FIX THIS PROBLUM BEFORE TRYING TO FIX OTHER PROBLUMS THAT ARE IN THE GAME SO WE CAN ATLEAST GET ON THE GAME AND FLY OUR SHIPS OK, THATS ALL WE ASK.
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Booky
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:50:00 -
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Yeah, they admitted that there is a problem but they are not going to do a rollback because we should have had insurance.
So let me ask another question, would I get reimbursed for my rare modules and insurance money if I was insured?
Funny how they admit to a problem but are going to do nothing to help those of us that got bit by it.
I don't want a rollback, I just want my stuff back. Fact is theya re not going to give it back, so i doubt I will renew my subscription. I can't play the game unless I disband my corp and join a megacorp, which I am not willing to do. Solo, and small corp, play is gone.
Oh and to all those that say its not a solo game, its a multiplayer online game. I agree, thats why I used to hunt player pirates, but now I can't even support my own corp because we can't even mine the jaspet(best ore here where there used to be Dark) in this 0.0 system becasue of the insane rats.
Another quick note, I wouldn't have lost my Raven if warp worked right anyway. Hellmar or someone said that a statis web reduces your max speed so you only need 50% of the max speed. Well wtf did my raven not warp when perfectly aligned and going 90m/s when webbed? My top speed is 160m/s, so at 80m/s I should have warped but Nooooo I was still sitting there like a retard at 90m/s.
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BlackPlague
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:54:00 -
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It blows. <---thats a period
Why the Sec Hit? (Hurt me...but helped...wonder who..... )
The MWD/AB Nerf is terrible.
Travel time SUCKS
Can't mine anymore and sell off the trit/pye and haul the others to hiway system....
What's left to do? Agent missions?
Glad to find out that if i cancel my account they keep it around for 6 months. I have about 10 days left on my account(S) then im done.
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StarLord
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Posted - 2003.12.18 02:00:00 -
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its a catch 22 we can't fight new ships without new ships and we can't get new ships because new ships are protecting minerals we need.
Shouldn't the npc pirates increase in difficulty as they Develop tech II as all the players have to. And, wouldn't it be better to have varied spawns in diff systems? Getting harder the further out you go.
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alphacheezeman
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Posted - 2003.12.18 02:16:00 -
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overall the patch is good but it changes too many things like someof the items that went to low slot i find to be a problem...
also if this is your idea to remove a lot of battleships owned by players from the game its working and i dont think most of them will have the will power to earn enough for another one...im not whining i have mine but i see people around me leaving and i dont like it really
there is no middle ground for spawns i went a "newb" 0.0 spot and it pwoned me and my freinds apoc...i made it out alive trying to defend his from a swarm of microwarping cruisers and stupid little fighters and my god damn targeting is painfully slow...
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Nalias
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Posted - 2003.12.18 02:31:00 -
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I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet so I will.
Lots of folks have mentioned the lack of the high-end ores where they used to be, but what's killing me as a new player is the removal of Omber from 0.8 and Kernite from 0.6 space.
These ores were not plentiful as it was, and were hard to mine (not much per cycle for me) but when I had the time to mine them they were a nice, small and much needed income boost.
So, while I agree that 0.0 ore distribution and access has gone to hell let's not overlook the fact that mid-range ore distribution and access has gone to hell, too.
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.18 02:33:00 -
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Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 17/12/2003 23:49:20
Let me see if I can follow the Developers' logic with the introducion of Castor:
Problem stated by Hellmar:
Not enough incentive to venture far out into 0.0.
Solution implemented by Castor:
Afterburners and MWDs now require 10x as much energy, powergrid, and accomplish less than they did before.
NPCs in 0.0 are now virtually unkillable by all but the largest combat fleets.
Rare ores are farther away from stations.
Wow, great idea guys. Way to encourage us to venture into 0.0.
lol i ran to empire for the time being... there is nothing to do, and then found out my lvl3's got screwed up and juts waiting around for the agents to get fixed at least..
i did manage to kill a 8+ thorax's with a corp mate but then when 20 spawned i didnt stick around... then saw the other insane things... and said there is nothing here to do so went to try agents yet to find i got screwed on my first mission and lost a lot of corp and agent faction 
i was also confused as to how this would motivate people to come to 0.0 space when the majority are running away
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Klaatu Verrato
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Posted - 2003.12.18 03:15:00 -
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I'm CEO of a small corp. I'm an experienced player, but most my members aren't, at least not to my skill/pilot level. What effects me with Castor: I dont mind tougher NPC's. It's a welcome change, and overdue in my mind as far as hunting goes. As such, I don't often mine in low sec space, primarily we mine on 0.3 to 0.6 space, due to the abundance of common ore. Now, Omber and Kernite are no longer available in Empire space (0.5 and above). As a manufactorer, it is now rather difficult and hazardous to be able to get Isogen. Not only is it a key ingredient in most BP's, it WAS also a staple source of money. I got by for Zydrine and Megacyte, by small mining excursions, recycling pirate loot, and the market. Do I have to do that with Isogen now?
Agent Missions=WTF? I've been playing for about 7 months now. I quit the agent missions when I first joined a corp, about 6 1/2 months now. They weren't worth the time or effort. I have to go do them now in order to get skills, techs I cant get elsewhere? Oh, and dont mention my corp's area of operation is 24 jumps from my nearest agent. Thanks!
Other features of Castor I like, but it suddenly, and dramatically thrusted an entire shift of strategy for success. A shift that does not bode well for smaller Corps.
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swisher
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Posted - 2003.12.18 03:22:00 -
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Edited by: swisher on 18/12/2003 03:46:00
Edited by: swisher on 18/12/2003 03:44:42
Edited by: swisher on 18/12/2003 03:41:28
.1 - 0.0
NPC's massive problems even in gang.
Also "nice" touch with the employment char sheet...remind me to pod Castor if I see him"
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CCP/Game Master..Please review these comments well for most of the poster's have been with eve since the beginning..back when there wasnt any shuttles and when there use to be PVP pirates in 0.0 space...now its not other PVP pirates in 0.0 space that scare the crap out of me its the NPC's random spawns..ready to eat your lunch...
Keep in mind not all of us..Live on the internet...there is a RL that we have..in order to ...yes pay you.
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Crypt
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Posted - 2003.12.18 03:35:00 -
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Castor definitely needs to be tweaked. As it stands right now its not playable to me and will eventually be cause for my account cancellation.
I don't want to be part of a mega corp and from what I read on the box when I bought the game, having to be in a mega corp wasn't one of the requirements! I hang out with a group of 3 friends and we mine or hunt in 0.0 space, since the patch two people in our group have lost ships they worked very hard to get. It was a bad day yesterday...hopefully it gets better soon.
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Wolfman
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Posted - 2003.12.18 03:46:00 -
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CCP While I appreciate your attempt to make the game better you have destroyed this game. Prior to this the game was playable. Now you have NPC's that are overwhelming. People are loosing ships left and right. Agent missions are horribly long and tedius. Why in the heck did you have to make it so now we have to have tons of new skills just to mine the new ore.
People have been telling you for months how to improve the game and once again you have plugged your ears with cotton. For me this game is almost dead and i know others feel exactly the same way. For once listen to what people are saying, and don't just do whatever you want. By ignoring your player base you will cause your players to ignore your game.I will give this game 1 week and then I will be leaving also. I have played this game since release and have loved it until now. PLEASE FOR HEAVENS SAKE LISTEN TO WHAT EVERYONE here is saying.
Dust to Dust Ashes to Ashes
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2003.12.18 03:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ukiah on 18/12/2003 04:07:35
Odd how things can turn on a dime with Eve. I've gone from being an ardent supporter, hungry for the development and evolution of Eve, to an intermediary state of disappointment because corpmates were cancelling their accounts because updates were continually labelled as 'soon' (even tho I kept my account active because I still enjoyed the game) to a current state of thinking very seriously about cancelling my account.
I don't mean to be overly critical of CCP. To be honest, I sincerely think they are trying.
But with all the testing that was going on on Chaos, this is what we've been handed?
Don't get me wrong, there's some GOOD stuff in here. I like the new JIP/Warp to options. I LOVE the new look/function UI. I'm esctatic about cruisers and frigates being useful/necessary again. However....
I'm seriously sitting here trying to 1) motivate myself to play and 2) trying to rationalize NOT cancelling my account.
I'm simply, stunned that this could have gone this wrong. I was hyper-excited about Castor's release. Several people have pointed out how they didn't do agent missions when Eve was released because of how b0rked they are. Well, we're back to square one in that regard. I understand that they never intended BS's to be so common, but to 'farm' them out of the game in this manner is a bit, well, underhanded...
I understood Hellmar's disappointment with how easy it was to make isk by mining in Empire Space, I gave him the benefit of the doubt on his indication that it was this mining that was responsible for megacyte shortage (even though countless other subscribers pointed to the baby roid issue as the culprit). However, how is the current roid placement and the NPC strength in 0.0 the solution? Either it was horribly conceived or an ineptly implemented solution.
Everything is a contradiction now. How is making megacyte harder to get going to help the price?
This has nothing to do with PVP or PC pirates. I'll take my chances with those guys. They can be beat or avoided. They spice up the game.
As someone else said, I think you got too ambitious. You're expecting your customer base to accept TOO many changes that were instituted TOO arbitrarily and were TOO poorly thought out and coded.
I'm going away for the holidays, won't have access to Eve for the next week. I don't want to totally give up, because, again, I think CCP is trying. But, if I feel the same way and things haven't changed or normalized.....
P.S. Yes, if I leave, you can have my stuff.
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2003.12.18 04:03:00 -
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Oh, one other thing, a rhetorical question...
If all the complaints, valid or otherwise, are arbitrarily forced to be in one thread, and none of the admins ever reads the thread, is it still considered 'carebear whining'?
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Casca
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Posted - 2003.12.18 04:05:00 -
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This is the game that I wanted to play but with caster I will be quitting this game in one week if something is not done you did not improve the game. It is a new game now, that is not playable I will not pay to play this game. This game was not patched for balance but patched to make it a new game. Small changes are fine lots of small changes are OK to balance a game, but not all at one time this is the second time that I have said this from a engineering stand point you are committing suicide, it is a known fact that any change will effect many things so a few changes at a time for balance is all you can do. What you have done is rewrite the program it should now be in beta not in play. I will not pay for a game that is being beta tested which is what we are doing. You took a game that was having some troubles but playable and have made it unplayable for most.
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Granimal
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Posted - 2003.12.18 04:21:00 -
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ok after reading for an hour while I sit here at work tonightand the play time I had last night I have to say that this patch has been a total disappointment so fare every avenue I could use to make isk is gone!!!!MINING IS DEAD!!! RAT HUNTING IS DEAD!!!!! TRAVELLING IS DEAD!!!!! All my named items turned to worthless things. I am sure alot of you know what I am saying you spend 5 mill on something then overnight it turns into an item worth 5k not right to say the least. CCP I feel has gone above and beyond the call for the nerf bat swing on this 1 must have used a nerf mac truck!
Already my corp has lost a few members who have cancelled there account and these were people I found very enjoyable to play with. CCP has made this game for the mega corps or alliances that can have a large group go out or the pirate corps that camp gates all day forget about ever running a blockade unless you wanna frig around the universe which is absolutely pointless paint a big TARGET on the side of my indy cause thats what it is now to slow to do a damn thing.And I have noticed piles of people running for dear life back to empire space but I think ccp's goal was to kill off BS's and make ships in general harder to obtain they have accomplished this in such a manner that the game is all but unplayable except to a few that have been herre for ever and I feel bad about telling some of my friends to check out the game now cause I know if I am having these probs for them as noobs it is impossible!!!!
Won't see my BS out of station for some time heck scared to take a cruiser out for the fear of loosing it cause I am so poor at the moment. I am generaly on in a off peak time for my corp and can't get more than 2 people together at a time so this game has been ruined for me I will stop my rant for now but I am giving 2 weeks of patience and SWG here I come!!!!! Quote:
I hope you all suck hot DEATH!!!!
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swisher
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Posted - 2003.12.18 04:22:00 -
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This is the game that I wanted to play but with caster I will be quitting this game in one week if something is not done you did not improve the game. It is a new game now, that is not playable I will not pay to play this game. This game was not patched for balance but patched to make it a new game. Small changes are fine lots of small changes are OK to balance a game, but not all at one time this is the second time that I have said this from a engineering stand point you are committing suicide, it is a known fact that any change will effect many things so a few changes at a time for balance is all you can do. What you have done is rewrite the program it should now be in beta not in play. I will not pay for a game that is being beta tested which is what we are doing. You took a game that was having some troubles but playable and have made it unplayable for most.
CCP...you need more people that have the focus like this...But then again ...
Who cares you dont listen..to your customers you dont know jack about making a game that will stand out and that will get "massive" online players. So for what it is worth to you [finger] enjoy your money that you have now..bank it fast for your cash will only last for a while until your see.not a smile on your old castor's file.
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Weazel
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Posted - 2003.12.18 05:27:00 -
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Buncha good ideas poor implamented; making the only end result, poorer players get jew'd now that they have to re-equip their ships and have to relocate cause they can mine in places they used to. Fun? It's hardly fun to drag a slow ass indy across the godforsaken galaxy cause your afterburners now only work on frigates.....
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Iznogud
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Posted - 2003.12.18 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: Iznogud on 18/12/2003 05:56:27
I find Castor very unfair for us who PAY for this game...
1st i log on to make Agent missions ... do 2 for seperates agent at the same time ... get 2 faction hits loose the abillity to make lvl 3 agent stuff.... get answer from GM to stay away from agents they are buggy.
OK then i move out to my corps base ...yes we are a 0.0 corp or was cause since pastor the highest number online was 2 not 5 ot 6 as im used to.
there i where hunting in my STABBER b4 castor so i was thinking i grab my 1 and only Tempest, head out to make a kill choose warp in and when i checking what npc there are in AB i get warp scramblet and pounded by 7 yes SEVEN NPC 2 Commander 1 centurion and 4 scouts
resulting in loosing my BS .... and i will use the weekend to REALLY consider if i wanna pay for this any longer
THANKS FOR DESTROYING A GOOD GAME
Izno~
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Chade Malloy
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Posted - 2003.12.18 05:58:00 -
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Well, i expected a "bumpy ride"...but this is a joke...
I will not log in again till markets are fixed, crazy nightmare npc¦s are fixed, and after some SERIOUS balancing.
CCP, get some sleep after this murderous update, hell, shut the whole thing DOWN for a day and FIX / update / balance it properly, i think noone has a problem with logging in a day later and find himself in a better balanced world.
Glad i decided to buy this megathron in my first minutes in castor for only 90M... i think it will cost double that next week...
Devs, DO something! 
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Crypt
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Posted - 2003.12.18 06:56:00 -
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Edited by: Crypt on 18/12/2003 07:00:01
Gave away everything I had accrued over the 8 months I played tonight. Got a little more clean-up to do tomorrow and then I will be logging and cancelling my subscription.
Two other friends are doing the same...by the end of the day saturday that'll be 3 less playing eve. We were going to wait for things to change but instead we have decided Halo or even starwars is a better bet.
GREAT JOB CCP. Merry Christmas to you and yours...do they have foodstamps in Iceland? I hope so for your childrens sakes.
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Thalen Mort
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Posted - 2003.12.18 07:00:00 -
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I like some of the feature of the patch...but the bad outweigh the good.
The game has not been "Patched". It has been re-written. No amount of roleplaying can cover what has been done.
Where there were rare ores and countless hours and resources spent in securing and setting up operations there is nothing but death at the hand of Insane npc spawns.
Would be like buying a nice vacation house after working for years and find that in one day the lake is gone, the mountain veiw is gone cause the mountian is no longer there.
Agent missions are not working.
Sec status/faction has been halved (not a big factor for me, but huge to some players).
Due to no feasable way to mine higher end ores manufacturing is no longer an option.
PVP will be scarce as no one will be able to replace any ship losses....
What is left?
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