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Amarazo	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:22:00 - [1] Edited by: Amarazo on 03/03/2007 18:22:26 Trying to repost again Posted - 2007.03.03 18:12:24 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hey guys! This have now been troubling me for a long time (2days) and I think it is about time to bring this out to the general public here in EvE. The other day I was in a Pretty decent number taking the 9cg Station. It was pretty amazing I was so happy as I for the first time got my computer to be able to run in large fleets without no lag what so ever. I were sitting at a POS though wondering what to do, as I been taking lots of screenshots during these days I asked to go and take screenshots from the group shooting at the stations. A Nice FC said that this is not a problem, so I went to the station happy with my finger ready to take some shots ;) I was trying to get the perfect angle looking at the other ships.. found a really nice with a Naglefar in the background and the sun slightly to the side.. hehe Now all hell breaks loose, I get hit by a LAG spike but as I am so used to it from before i dont think to much about it... the intr part is though as soon as the LAG (frozed screen) goes away I see that my ship is in warp to a 9-4POS... This is a POS I NEVER EVER been to. It was also from the direction I came so it was in my back... This is a BoB POS. I NEVER initiated my warp, I have played the game enough knowing NOT to jump to moons unless you are aware of what is there.. as I did have the friendly POS bookmarked there were no reason even if I wanted to go to the POS I would use bm and not hit it from overview. Ofcourde I drop out of warp at a perfect range from the BoB pos which is in reinforced... I try and warp out, but ofcourse I am scrambled. Not going to give up that easy I start to MWD away. I managed to travel 52km before my t2 fitted Tempest goes to the battleship heaven. I was a bit angry, thinking that well I must have made something in the lag, a few min later though I got more ppl reporting their client starting initiation warp to the same 9-4POS thank god they managed to stop their warps and no more ships was lost. I started to talk to CCP and you all know the word that I get back: "We hope that you will recover soon from any loss in this matter. If you require any further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again." I now got into a new fleet and sat in 3-F on the EFA gate when hear to my amazement that again ships are starting to initiate warp on their own AGAIN to moons in the system. I have now had enough of the bull and want GMs or who ever is in charge to really look into this, I can agree to loose ship in battles that is "fun" but to what ever you call this It is NOT acceptable. Pls if anyone else got more info about similar situation pls let me and who ever it might concern know so we can fix this "bug/exploit" Best regards to all of you that make EvE fun! Amarazo P.s couldnt be bothered reading through it again so there will be bad gramma and bad english but I hope you will understand.
Rivers Kelak Fatalix Inc. Schism.	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:26:00 - [2] It could simply be that your Fleet Commander Accidently gang-warped you guys there... It's happened before...
Amarazo	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:27:00 - [3] Originally by: Rivers Kelak It could simply be that your Fleet Commander Accidently gang-warped you guys there... It's happened before...
Amarazo	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:28:00 - [4] Originally by: Rivers Kelak It could simply be that your Fleet Commander Accidently gang-warped you guys there... It's happened before... My fleet commander and squad commander were both idling at the friendly POS waiting for calls to do anything. They were just taking a nice little rest.
Sigos ORIGIN SYSTEMS Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:29:00 - [5] Edited by: Sigos on 03/03/2007 18:27:39 Are you sure it was not a fleet commander/wing commander/squad commander/boss that was warping you? It is possible that one of them accidentally misclicked or, and I should hope not, is a spy. EDIT: Sorry, had the window open for a little bit before I submitted. If there was not someone else who could have warped you, then it should be looked into.
Amarazo Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:29:00 - [6] Edited by: Amarazo on 03/03/2007 18:26:36 Originally by: Sigos Are you sure it was not a fleet commander/wing commander/squad commander/boss that was warping you? It is possible that one of them accidentally misclicked or, and I should hope not, is a spy. I forgot to say that in the first initial warp I were the ONLY ship that initiade warp, just one single ship out of a 100man fleet. No more... It was just 1 ship every time never more then one at a time.
Pylse Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:33:00 - [7] Edited by: Pylse on 03/03/2007 18:30:37 Edited by: Pylse on 03/03/2007 18:30:09 He accidentally gang warped them there twice? =P Gang warping could of course be the answer, allthough the log would clearly say that you are "following (initiater) in warp" and thus could easily be discovered. It sounds like a Gangwarp however, allthough that would suggest a corrupt FC / Squad / Wing / Gang commander and I would never say such a thing on a public forum! I would like to play this card as a suggested explanation. Edit: Btw, add your corp / alliance names under forum settings of the mods will play a totally different card that involves locking on your thread ;) Edit: You just did, or I was blind, nvm =P
Condolesco Caldari Brotherhood of Whiners	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:38:00 - [8] It's this new structure bob is allowed to online in their pos. It's called a magnet. It will randomly draw 10 ships an hour to their pos as long as their standings are negative or neutral. If there are no neutrals or negs in system it will teleport random people from jita at a rate of 3 per 10 minutes until requirements are met. Also their pos' can pod you now... permanently... It deletes your character.
Arto Nupponen Caldari Rosvosektori	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:53:00 - [9] Originally by: Amarazo Ofcourde I drop out of warp at a perfect range from the BoB pos which is in reinforced... I try and warp out, but ofcourse I am scrambled. Not going to give up that easy I start to MWD away. I managed to travel 52km before my t2 fitted Tempest goes to the battleship heaven. What scrambled you anyway? You do know that when POS goes in reinforced all the systems requiring cpu go offline? Guess it's better not even commenting rest of the things...
Dhan Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:54:00 - [10] Sounds like you got gangwarped

Formosus Funus Nexus Legion NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:54:00 - [11] I got the same problem one or two times as well. I had a spot at 300~400K of the Torrinos gate in EC to escape from bubbles and check the gate. Tri (which you'll know I guess ) was camping there. I was alligned though and as well trying to use an angle to zoom in to check if there's a bubble. At once I see 'WARP DRIVE ACTIVE' and there I went! You can imagine that my ship didn't liked that, petitioned but same kind of answer. That warp problem happened a little while after that as well, but I managed to stop warp fast enough. Both situtations I was solo and Im 100% sure I never clicked 'warp to'. Quite strange, but never happened again, other things replaced it .
mergblue KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Condolesco It's this new structure bob is allowed to online in their pos. It's called a magnet. It will randomly draw 10 ships an hour to their pos as long as their standings are negative or neutral. If there are no neutrals or negs in system it will teleport random people from jita at a rate of 3 per 10 minutes until requirements are met. Also their pos' can pod you now... permanently... It deletes your character. I thought alt posts weren't allowed in this section of the forum.
dirtystockbird The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:02:00 - [13] Edited by: dirtystockbird on 03/03/2007 19:01:42 Originally by: Amarazo Edited by: Amarazo on 03/03/2007 18:22:26 Trying to repost again Posted - 2007.03.03 18:12:24 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hey guys! This have now been troubling me for a long time (2days) and I think it is about time to bring this out to the general public here in EvE. The other day I was in a Pretty decent number taking the 9cg Station. It was pretty amazing I was so happy as I for the first time got my computer to be able to run in large fleets without no lag what so ever. I were sitting at a POS though wondering what to do, as I been taking lots of screenshots during these days I asked to go and take screenshots from the group shooting at the stations. A Nice FC said that this is not a problem, so I went to the station happy with my finger ready to take some shots ;) I was trying to get the perfect angle looking at the other ships.. found a really nice with a Naglefar in the background and the sun slightly to the side.. hehe Now all hell breaks loose, I get hit by a LAG spike but as I am so used to it from before i dont think to much about it... the intr part is though as soon as the LAG (frozed screen) goes away I see that my ship is in warp to a 9-4POS... This is a POS I NEVER EVER been to. It was also from the direction I came so it was in my back... This is a BoB POS. I NEVER initiated my warp, I have played the game enough knowing NOT to jump to moons unless you are aware of what is there.. as I did have the friendly POS bookmarked there were no reason even if I wanted to go to the POS I would use bm and not hit it from overview. Ofcourde I drop out of warp at a perfect range from the BoB pos which is in reinforced... I try and warp out, but ofcourse I am scrambled. Not going to give up that easy I start to MWD away. I managed to travel 52km before my t2 fitted Tempest goes to the battleship heaven. I was a bit angry, thinking that well I must have made something in the lag, a few min later though I got more ppl reporting their client starting initiation warp to the same 9-4POS thank god they managed to stop their warps and no more ships was lost. I started to talk to CCP and you all know the word that I get back: "We hope that you will recover soon from any loss in this matter. If you require any further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again." I now got into a new fleet and sat in 3-F on the EFA gate when hear to my amazement that again ships are starting to initiate warp on their own AGAIN to moons in the system. I have now had enough of the bull and want GMs or who ever is in charge to really look into this, I can agree to loose ship in battles that is "fun" but to what ever you call this It is NOT acceptable. Pls if anyone else got more info about similar situation pls let me and who ever it might concern know so we can fix this "bug/exploit" Best regards to all of you that make EvE fun! Amarazo P.s couldnt be bothered reading through it again so there will be bad gramma and bad english but I hope you will understand. I heard you guys had a lot of friendly fire incidents in 3-f as well . So you guys had an FC gang warping your own people to hostile pos's (it does happen from time to time) and your first thought (as is typical in these forums), OMG, BOB DEV H4X, THE SKY IS FALLING, OMG OMG !!!!ELEVENTY-ONE!!!!! It's amazing how people ignore the obvious and jump to ridiculous conclusions rather then admit stupid mistakes (whether it's your own your someone elses in your gang). BOB could you please disconnect your "backdoor" access into the servers and stop warping hostile gangs to your pos to get obliterated? mmkay thanks!
joefishy S.A.S Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:03:00 - [14] Id just like to point out, you state you were Warp scrambled by the pos, while in re-enforced mode. This cannot happen as when a pos is in re-enforced mode all cpu modules get turned off. thus either you didn't press warp :\| or the pos wasn't in re-enforced mode. so i guess you could get your ship back from a gm. *********************************************** SAS - The un-official isk sink of the game.
The Jok3r Hookers From Mars	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:04:00 - [15] The old "tractorbeam them to the POS" trick is well known BoB exploit "Dont speak english... Ctrl Q Ctrl Q "
Serrano Balthar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:07:00 - [16] it append to me too, my ship warp to a moon wihtout raison. and my ship change direction ... ----------- Igvar Thorn arn !
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:09:00 - [17] Originally by: Rivers Kelak It could simply be that your Fleet Commander Accidently gang-warped you guys there... It's happened before... Or maybe they 'accidentally' did it? /me dons lead hat, as we all know tinfoil makes it easier to read your mind. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Rivers Kelak It could simply be that your Fleet Commander Accidently gang-warped you guys there... It's happened before... Or maybe they 'accidentally' did it? /me dons lead hat, as we all know tinfoil makes it easier to read your mind. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Red Gabba RennTech The Guardian Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:10:00 - [19] This happened during the I-N siege, however we did get a message saying that someone initiated the warp, however he claims he pressed nothing and i would agree with him because we warped again this time no one initiated it. However i don't think this is a exploit but a bug that can happen during lag.
Red Gabba RennTech The Guardian Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:10:00 - [20] This happened during the I-N siege, however we did get a message saying that someone initiated the warp, however he claims he pressed nothing and i would agree with him because we warped again this time no one initiated it. However i don't think this is a exploit but a bug that can happen during lag.

Amarazo Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:18:00 - [21] Ok I was scrambed and webbed by the POS I repeatadle tried to get away.. I mwd for 50km and and tried to warp nonstop. And I have been talking to GMs they saw a gang warp by fc but that was 20min before so this was NOT a FC nor SQUAD COMMANDER warp. about the reinforced mode thing, didnt know that talking to GMs about it, but I am pretty sure about the name of the answer;) Anyhow seems to be ALOT of ppl already that have suffered from the similar incidents. keep the thread going
Amarazo Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:18:00 - [22] Ok I was scrambed and webbed by the POS I repeatadle tried to get away.. I mwd for 50km and and tried to warp nonstop. And I have been talking to GMs they saw a gang warp by fc but that was 20min before so this was NOT a FC nor SQUAD COMMANDER warp. about the reinforced mode thing, didnt know that talking to GMs about it, but I am pretty sure about the name of the answer;) Anyhow seems to be ALOT of ppl already that have suffered from the similar incidents. keep the thread going
Tarace CEO Caldari ME15	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:39:00 - [23] If you're saying the truth and not trying revive the "BoD" concept, it's obviously a bug imo. I can't see the point of making "Amarazo taking beautiful screenshot from his God class tempest" warp to a POS for a insigniant kill/loss :)
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:42:00 - [24] Just to add a bit. If it was a gang warp, you would see the message "following xxx in warp" The message is only displayed for a very short time, but I would be suprised if you missed it..unless you had ctrl+F9 while taking screenshots You signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
dirtystockbird The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Just to add a bit. If it was a gang warp, you would see the message "following xxx in warp" The message is only displayed for a very short time, but I would be suprised if you missed it..unless you had ctrl+F9 while taking screenshots OOOR, tinfoil hat time, unless he had messages turned off like most people do in fleet battles. But you guys are right, they probably hacked the servers, paid off CCP and warped your fleet to the POS. Given that information you can never win this game soooo, can I have your stuff?
Amarazo Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:53:00 - [26] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Just to add a bit. If it was a gang warp, you would see the message "following xxx in warp" The message is only displayed for a very short time, but I would be suprised if you missed it..unless you had ctrl+F9 while taking screenshots I say again I did not do any kind of gang warp.. GMs did find a gang warp but that was 20min prior to my Loss and that was from the gate to the friendly POS. 2123 or something for the warps that gms could find and I died at the POS at 2142 or something like that so they dont got any log that any FC or so gangwarped me. already cleared everyone in the gang... Via GMs
Maltere Gallente Inversion Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:59:00 - [27] this also happened to me in 9cg, i was at the station with other people who were not in my gang, next thing i know im warping. strange thing was, other people arrived there too, yet our FC/WC were both at our pos. This was over a week ago
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:00:00 - [28] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 03/03/2007 19:59:45 Originally by: dirtystockbird OOOR, tinfoil hat time, unless he had messages turned off like most people do in fleet battles. But you guys are right, they probably hacked the servers, paid off CCP and warped your fleet to the POS. Given that information you can never win this game soooo, can I have your stuff? I am not suggesting that at all. It would be far simpler just to get a spy in gang as squad commander anyway Btw..I keep messages on, I like to see what ammo does what damage. And it doesnt reduce lag...it improves client performance. These are two different things. My PC runs at 30Fps in fleet battle (zoomed out ofc), so I can live with messages on You signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Narrative Freshfood	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:01:00 - [29] Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 03/03/2007 19:59:34 Never happened to me, when I didn't click anything. But some weeks ago, I jumped into system, initiated warp to another gate to regroup, but landed at a moon with a pos. I had luck and got away with my BS. I couldn't explain it, but thought it was somehow my mistake. Next day, same system, similar situation, our gang is told to jump in and warp manually to that gate again, but I land again at the same moon like the day before. Turned out that it was not my mistake, 3 gang members landed there, too. I have still no idea, what it was. ( Maybe the moon was behind the overview so that I selected it accidently, but how likely is it that it also happens to 3 other guys ? )
Xeliya Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:05:00 - [30] Edited by: Xeliya on 03/03/2007 20:02:06 Probably double click on a moon near the station, what I mean is the moons/planets close to stuff that pretty much where ever you click you click on it. I have had it happen lots of times which explains why other would have had it happen too. ----------

Isaac Orion Dreamscape Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:13:00 - [31] Couple of questions Amarazo: 1. Were you idle at the time you warped? or were your moving around and clicking on things in your overview? 2. Check your logs for the warp initiation. See if it mentions "Following xxx in warp" or something else. Very interesting bug though. -------------------------------------- Recruitment Thread
Huge Ox UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:36:00 - [32] Had similar things happen a couple of times myself set warp to gate landed at a moon. Also been in gangs and fc warped us to a gate we landed at a moon. Fc swore he had warped us to gate xxxx we just thought he's made a mistake reading your post maybee explains it darn now i'll have to say sorry for calling him a noob :). I'd bug report it sounds like a few ppl have had this happen to them. ps systems were quite laggy when this happened so could be related.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:48:00 - [33] Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 03/03/2007 20:02:06 Probably double click on a moon near the station, what I mean is the moons/planets close to stuff that pretty much where ever you click you click on it. I have had it happen lots of times which explains why other would have had it happen too. Double clicking an object doesn't make you warp to it....although...it has happened to me. I thought wtf....I am warping from double click..straight to moon. Luckily it was a low sec POS, and was not set to shoot neutrals You signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
USN CVN72 Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:52:00 - [34] well if this happened in fix space hell i can beleive anything is possible down there... but honestly it sounds like in two different occasions somone within your gang structure is warping people to hostile pos's. only explanation is you have a spy in your gang or your gang leaders were trying verify if they were lagged by clicking on space to see if your able to move then accidently clicking near a moon which so happened to be a hostile pos... its totally possible and it has happened 100 times in this game... USN
Amarazo Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:52:00 - [35] Originally by: Isaac Orion Couple of questions Amarazo: 1. Were you idle at the time you warped? or were your moving around and clicking on things in your overview? 2. Check your logs for the warp initiation. See if it mentions "Following xxx in warp" or something else. Very interesting bug though. 1, I were all IDLE only looked att a naglefar and setting the camera up for a nice shot 2, As I said nothing following no one else
Alizeee Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:58:00 - [36] There are mother***** spies in your mother***** gang!
Jin Steele Fatalix Inc. Schism.	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:01:00 - [37] Happened to me in ED- this morning, i was not in a gang. Aggroed a nanophoon, had 15 guys jump me, so i warped to a planet, planet 6 to be exact. Instead, i ended up at a POS with a small bubble, which was not even near planet 6. Petitioned, no response, but the SS and logs show me warping to planet 6 and ending up at a bubbled POS. -1 Stabber Fatalix IS RECRUITING!
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:02:00 - [38] Is it an exploit?! Is it a bug!? NO! It's SuperBoD! ------- Someone from MC peer-pressured me to smoke pot, now I'm cool.
Galimiy Portret R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:33:00 - [39] Have happened to me numerous times. I rat or tank for my miner alt and then, suddenly, I notice that I am entering warp. Have cost me a few t2 drones and almost a retriever. I hope it's not some trigger happy GM playing games with ppl. ...now in RED
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:34:00 - [40] CCP changed something a few patches ago regarding this, and I've done it loads of times (sometimes with gangs, sometimes on my own). I dont know how to reproduce it (and haven't tried) but it's always because I am accidently clicking a few times on a moon when I am moving the camera.

SinBin Gallente HARDC0RE	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:36:00 - [41] Go here in ya eve install check the logs for that time or day, should be from last jump or dock eve\capture\Gamelogs I think iv seen another bug since the new gang interface & i seen others say it also but most assume a mist click & ignor it. I been warping myself & gangs for yaers yet recent iv found my gang arriveing at planets on the path of the gate. Yet in gang command mode i have gates on overview & click it there not even in space. Im also well aware the items behind the overview can click instead so im very carfull. Your does sound a little more spy like tho check them logs for best info. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Assur Minmatar Stronghold corp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:40:00 - [42] Edited by: Assur on 03/03/2007 21:37:14 Gang warp... hands down Devil touched me in my sig space :'(
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:31:00 - [43] OMG, BOB DEV H4X, THE SKY IS FALLING, OMG OMG !!!!ELEVENTY-ONE!!!!! It's amazing how people ignore the obvious and jump to ridiculous conclusions rather then admit stupid mistakes (whether it's your own or someone elses in your gang). BOB could you please disconnect your "backdoor" access into the servers and stop warping hostile gangs to your pos to get obliterated? mmkay thanks! Its really funny that the fiorst person to bring BoB into this conversation is one of their friends. I dont see where the OP was blaming anyone. He was simpily asking for an explanation... Methinks he doth protest too much!
The Dokter 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:39:00 - [44] The first time it happend with me a thought I was beeing a complet noob and pressed warp some where. But after two, three times I noticed that sometimes if you click somewhere in space you start warping to the nearest moon. Very strange and rather enoying, I had it when we where up north so I think it's a general bug actually. "It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you."
Ranger 1 Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:54:00 - [45] I have noticed this as well, fortunately the hostile POS had no weapons active. Definately a bug, and probably warping you to the nearest moon, as suggested above.
Shinoobie	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:56:00 - [46] I petitioned this and bug reported it about 2 months ago. Ofc the petitions came back "We are not aware of any bug concerning this....." I tried to enforce that I was not making it up and please check the logs. Happened twice. Once I was idling in system in a covertops. NOT in any gang at all. Friendly gang jumps into system, lag spike hits, BAM I am warped to a moon. Luckily I was in the covert and cloaked. Checked and double checked my logs. GM's wouldn't even look using their tools. Second time it happened, WAS in a gang in ED-. I was the WC myself, no FC in gang. Used the right click menu, pointed at stargates, selected 3-F, clicked warp to 0km. I alligned and just as I was about to warp I noticed that it reported that I was warping to a moon. Too late, I was in warp. This time I could foresee now possible outcome other than dying, so I logged off. Petitioned it to a GM, and he said that I initiated the warp to a moon. Now as anyone know in ED- FIX have all the moons POSed. Well they did at the time. So you never ever select going to a moon. I really couldn't even see how I could make a mistake from.... Right Click > Stargates > 3-F > Warp to 0km to Right Click > Planets > Planet 1 > Moons > Moon 1 > Warp to 0km. There is no possible way I could make this mistake. The bug exists for sure. We just need CCP to admit it. Elite Scouting
USN CVN72 Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:57:00 - [47] Originally by: USN CVN72 well if this happened in fix space hell i can beleive anything is possible down there... but honestly it sounds like in two different occasions somone within your gang structure is warping people to hostile pos's. only explanation is you have a spy in your gang or your gang leaders were trying verify if they were lagged by clicking on space to see if your able to move then accidently clicking near a moon which so happened to be a hostile pos... its totally possible and it has happened 100 times in this game... USN I will Quote my own post to give an update. It just happened to me in P-E with a hauler. exactly what you guys have been complaining about. somtimes when jumping in a system we used to get lagged then insta warp to a safe this i know... But i have just clicked on a gate to insta to ZERO. I find myself at a moon instead... There was lag when i initiated the warp to goto the gate. now this is confusing me ... Just wanted to share my input... thx
Amarazo Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 23:09:00 - [48] This is Awsome guys keep the thread alive maybe GMs will start to realize we got some major issue here.
Sentinel Eeex Caldari Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:17:00 - [49] Originally by: Amarazo This is Awsome guys keep the thread alive maybe GMs will start to realize we got some major issue here. Are you serious? They still haven't managed to give us an answer on 'shooting people inside POS shields' topic I also had random warps initiated by CCP , but I was lucky enough never to end up at hostile POS (but it was always a planet/moon I ended up at). Usually happened when I was trying to rotate/zoom things on the screen. We also had a ganglead initiate gangwarp to next gate, and we ended up on random planet/moon (and obligatory "WTF???" on Teamspeak :)). It is probably a feature. It's like that "by design"
Dilsnik Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:31:00 - [50] During the ec-p8r siege (Ascn/BoB) vs (trust/g/iron/razor) I experienced this bug. System was very laggy from the sheer numbers and bubbles, and then a g fleet jumped into a gate camp from torrinos I believe. E warps galore, Including me ,I e warped straight to a trust death star. So, no tinfoil, it's a lag bug.

Zarrika Khan Caldari No Quarter. Academy	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:31:00 - [51] Perhaps it is more like something from the Matrix and you have look at it in context: (scene of the Buddhist kid explaining the spoon to Neo) Try not to think of it as a bug auto warping you to a moon with or without a POS... that would be impossible. (CCP cannot have bugs that serious can they?) Instead try to realize the truth; that there is no bug, then you will realize it is the moon that warps to you. LOL... seriously though.. scarey bug if it is one. Someone needs to have FRAPS on standby... nothing like a video to really get someone's attention.. oh wait.. shooting ships through POS shields.. that was FRAPs'ed and nothing happened because that is a known 'feature' of POS shields... apparently. (note: Still training Advanced Sarcasm to level 3 at the moment.)
scabbsssjr Gallente M'8'S	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:38:00 - [52] IDK why you labeled this thread with the word exploit. Let alone in this area of the forums. I was flying with autopilot on the other day in empire. When I arrived at my destination, I noticed my ships warp drive activate and warp to planet V. Really weird. Espically since I had not touched my keyboard for 10minutes because I was reading a book. --------------------------- Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
Wonder Mike The Sugarhill Gang	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:56:00 - [53] lolzor .. do a bugreport then..
Admiral Hayes Caldari Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.04 01:06:00 - [54] Have had this bug 2 times no poses att moons do ph
Xiaodown Dark-Rising	Posted - 2007.03.04 01:22:00 - [55] Originally by: Sentinel Eeex Originally by: Amarazo This is Awsome guys keep the thread alive maybe GMs will start to realize we got some major issue here. Are you serious? They still haven't managed to give us an answer on 'shooting people inside POS shields' topic Off topic. But, the thread where this was discussed was eventually resolved. The guy who was origionally making the complaint about shooting through POS shields posted the official response from a GM. The official response is that if you have no password set on the POS, people who enter it who are not of the corporation that owns the pos (regardless of their standings, which would have to ofc be positive in order to pass the shields) can be targeted and shot. Undocumented feature. A lot of eve is undocumented. We all wish it wasn't, but... here we are. Now you know. ~Xiao
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.04 01:38:00 - [56] i remember this one time, in band camp, we were fighting and at the time the node went down (used to happen all the time when fighting this one alliance...) i was in a SS (on my own, i.e. a private ss with no gang members near to me) and had been there for some time, and yet when i finally logged back in i was sat on the far gate (not the one i entered from or one i had yet been to) in structure and about to pop, which happened about 2 seconds later.
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.04 01:40:00 - [57] Edited by: Dawn Princess on 04/03/2007 01:36:35 off topic.
Zakon Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.04 01:58:00 - [58] I hade a simular expiriense maybe even more strange then yours. I was traveling with couple off bs¦s for couple off jumps moving in my sniper temp towards ED that was under siege. Couple off jumps before we reached it after warping to gate, huggin it and pressing jump instead off seeing my ship jumping my tempest insta warped towards somewere. I expiriensed some lag while warping still thinking about wtf happened just to see red blinking BoB POS while exiting warp. Lucky for me i bumped as hell from it ending about 150 km away from tower... hitting my mwd aligning slowley becouse off still high speed i managed to warp off on 60% armor. The reason i didnt petition it was the fact i didnt suffer any loss. But after seeing something simular happening to u there must exist some kind off bug. After hitting Jump on gate u sure shouldnt warp to hostile POS.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.04 02:32:00 - [59] Originally by: Xiaodown Originally by: Sentinel Eeex Originally by: Amarazo This is Awsome guys keep the thread alive maybe GMs will start to realize we got some major issue here. Are you serious? They still haven't managed to give us an answer on 'shooting people inside POS shields' topic Off topic. But, the thread where this was discussed was eventually resolved. The guy who was origionally making the complaint about shooting through POS shields posted the official response from a GM. The official response is that if you have no password set on the POS, people who enter it who are not of the corporation that owns the pos (regardless of their standings, which would have to ofc be positive in order to pass the shields) can be targeted and shot. Undocumented feature. A lot of eve is undocumented. We all wish it wasn't, but... here we are. Now you know. ~Xiao Well it was me that got the reply from the GM...someone else posted it from our alliance chat (dam alts ). I had to have it escalated..the 2 GMS disagreed, then a third GM came along in the thread and said that he would look into how the POS was meant to work. Nothing has been posted by a GM since then. So no one is quite sure if this was how a POS was intended to behave or if it was just a bug they forgot to fix. Did I say bug...sorry Anyway..back to freaky warps... CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
Karrimdra FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:17:00 - [60] Originally by: Amarazo Ok I was scrambed and webbed by the POS I repeatadle tried to get away.. I mwd for 50km and and tried to warp nonstop. And I have been talking to GMs they saw a gang warp by fc but that was 20min before so this was NOT a FC nor SQUAD COMMANDER warp. about the reinforced mode thing, didnt know that talking to GMs about it, but I am pretty sure about the name of the answer;) Anyhow seems to be ALOT of ppl already that have suffered from the similar incidents. keep the thread going first of all, this pos had scram/web, but no guns? MWD'ing 50km in a bs while webbed would take you well over 3 minutes (sat 200m/s... and thats being generous for a fleet set tempest). Three minutes of being shot at by a pos in a BS? gimmea break man, it sounds like you made a mistake and are playing the "ZOMG BOB HACKED ME TO LOSE A SHIP" card for something that is completely inconceivable. Not to mention the fact posses cannot warp scram/web while reinforced. Secondly, has a titan weapon been fired in that system before? Sounds retarded I know, but we had some issues in YM- after the DDD went off with a couple of people warping between moons and ending up outside the station (that was fun when it happened to a carrier with 200 hostiles in system, i can tell you.) Sounds similar, however that was a warp initiated by the player, but ending up at the wrong location. BTW that thing about the DD is something ive heard down the grapevine and i have nothing to back up that ddd's move **** round systems by a bit or whatever, but all my bm's were out by a couple of kms after it too. From nothing to something in just one corp!

Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:32:00 - [61] Sure the POS dident have a bubble at it? I know its not soposed to work like this but i've ended up at a bubbled POS before when warping to a planet, fortunateley it was our own POS Don't ask me how, i know bubbles are only soposed to work when on the same grid as - as well as inline of the warp destination, but it has happened before no doubt. -
Ace101 Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:40:00 - [62] i have had this happen, sometimes when controlling ships in manual orbits and you double click in space near a moon. also when i have intitated a warp to a gate i have ended up at a moon, and has happened to out gangs too. it sucks, tbh you should only ever be able to warp to moons by the Planets > moons menu. would save so much crap.
Xiaodown Dark-Rising	Posted - 2007.03.04 04:07:00 - [63] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Xiaodown Originally by: Sentinel Eeex Originally by: Amarazo This is Awsome guys keep the thread alive maybe GMs will start to realize we got some major issue here. Are you serious? They still haven't managed to give us an answer on 'shooting people inside POS shields' topic Off topic. But, the thread where this was discussed was eventually resolved. The guy who was origionally making the complaint about shooting through POS shields posted the official response from a GM. The official response is that if you have no password set on the POS, people who enter it who are not of the corporation that owns the pos (regardless of their standings, which would have to ofc be positive in order to pass the shields) can be targeted and shot. Undocumented feature. A lot of eve is undocumented. We all wish it wasn't, but... here we are. Now you know. ~Xiao Well it was me that got the reply from the GM...someone else posted it from our alliance chat (dam alts ). I had to have it escalated..the 2 GMS disagreed, then a third GM came along in the thread and said that he would look into how the POS was meant to work. Nothing has been posted by a GM since then. So no one is quite sure if this was how a POS was intended to behave or if it was just a bug they forgot to fix. Did I say bug...sorry Anyway..back to freaky warps... Hmmmm, that is most interesting. If you get a good answer, please post it here so we can all be made wiser. ~Xiao
Helina Malinos Caldari Euro Traders	Posted - 2007.03.04 04:12:00 - [64] a laim attempt at trying to cover up you incompentiance and fuel the whol hax crap as a re-inforced POS does not scramble. Next time, don't warp to a hostile POS. KTNXBYE
Niding Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 04:52:00 - [65] Edited by: Niding on 04/03/2007 04:48:30 Originally by: Helina Malinos a laim attempt at trying to cover up you incompentiance and fuel the whol hax crap as a re-inforced POS does not scramble. Next time, don't warp to a hostile POS. KTNXBYE Its too easy to dismiss his comments and just flame him, than to stop and consider there might be some bug in the game. Several people has reported the same problem in this thread, and Ill add myself to this very list. Never had this problem before about random warps, be it in gang or flying solo. Sometimes I roam around and the ship makes an odd warp leaving me puzzled about what just happened. Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself
Aeryn Davenport Claflin Industries	Posted - 2007.03.04 05:41:00 - [66] I've seen the accidental warp to a moon multiple times. It's cause you double click to align somewhere, or just accidently double click in space for some other reason, and you accidently double click a moon and warp to it. It sucks because the moon icons don't show in space normally so you don't realize its happened until its too late. You may be clicking while waiting for lag to settle, trying to click your overview but hitting the space behind it (your overview is transparent and your clicks go through to the space behind it), or you are trying to fly away from someone or something in a particular direction. Your FC may have told people to align to a planet (say where you have a friendly POS) and it just happened that a moon was lined up where a lot of people doublclicked to align. I've done it before but been lucky enough that no POS was there. I've even seen an industrial trying to make a run from a gate camp accidently warp to a POS moon and go POP. It sucks, but it happens.
Tainos Species 5618 SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 05:45:00 - [67] I've had this happen twice to me, and what leads me to belive it is a bug is when the time I got popped, I petitioned it, and CCP gave me the ship back.
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.04 07:10:00 - [68] Correct me if I'm wrong but it used to be that if you hit ctrl-F9 to clear your screen, all the mouse click functions still worked, only you couldn't see that menu on the screen.
Torhas Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 07:46:00 - [69] Amarazo, I've had this happen to me before also. I assumed I misclicked but have no idea how I could have done that given the circumstances. Sanguine public channel: Khanidblood
Entilzah Valen 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 08:02:00 - [70] Solution: Start using the right click menu to warp to objects rather than visual selecting your destination and right clicking on the object with your cursor and initiating warp. A mis-click at any time, anywhere will initiate this. The system celestial object icons are based on distances and if a moon inline with a planet is closer to you than the planet, if you right click on the planet, and initiate warp you will warp to the moon, as the "sprite" or tile for the moon is above the planets tile as far as the UI is concerned. I've also noticed that the UI has a tendency to select moons with posses more often then not. . .

Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.04 08:25:00 - [71] Maybe I should have mentioned in my previous post. It is possible, with a little bit of luck (maybe bad luck) to warp your self, when you have a clear screen.
Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.04 10:38:00 - [72] Originally by: Amarazo Now all hell breaks loose, I get hit by a LAG spike but as I am so used to it from before i dont think to much about it... the intr part is though as soon as the LAG (frozed screen) goes away I see that my ship is in warp to a 9-4POS... This is a POS I NEVER EVER been to. It was also from the direction I came so it was in my back... This is a BoB POS. BoB camera team went to investigate, this is result: Clicky
Morden Nok Cohortes Vigilum Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:59:00 - [73] There are definetely bugs like this in Eve. For example, we were escorting a freighter in 0.0. Freighter pilot warps to Gate A, his overview and logs show the "Warping to Gate A" message. But when he got out of warp, he was at gate B. I have personally warped to gate in high-sec, and ended up at moon. And no, I did not choose moon behind overview either...
Kaylana Syi The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:52:00 - [74] This has nothing to do with BoB or Fix or dev intervention. For the past few months 'sometimes' warping to a gate or planet will put you at a moon. Its happened to IAC gangs for quite some time in 0.0 and in a variety of regions. It sucks but because it to duplicate making it hard to bug report it. Team Minmatar
ACHURA CALDARIAN Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:41:00 - [75] Edited by: ACHURA CALDARIAN on 04/03/2007 14:38:14 this happened to me a few times but i didnt warped to posses and all of the warps happened by itself and ther was damn lots of lag and also when we jumped from a gate i 3 or 4 times find my self at 1 m km away from gate . a few times i ended up in a planet altough fc warped us to the next gate i think this is a damn bug to be look into and also losses have to be reimbursed ( luckily i didnt lost any ) WE ARE THE GRANDSONS OF A THUNDERMAKER NATION
bulabuba Gallente Klima Galactic	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:51:00 - [76] This has happened to me before too. Once in a battle with TCF/Goon with something like 500 in local. Our FC gang warped everyone, and I (completely hands off, didn't touch my keyboard at all) ended up at a moon. Several others did too. I've been "lag warped" around like this several times in high lag situations. I only remember ending up at a moon once though. When the lag reaches a certain point the game just goes to hell. At that point you're a spectator as much as anything else, hoping you don't get destroyed before you manage to regain control of your ship. ----------------------------------------------- Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No. -DB Preacher[BoB]
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:01:00 - [77] Originally by: Jin Steele Happened to me in ED- this morning, i was not in a gang. Aggroed a nanophoon, had 15 guys jump me, so i warped to a planet, planet 6 to be exact. Instead, i ended up at a POS with a small bubble, which was not even near planet 6. Petitioned, no response, but the SS and logs show me warping to planet 6 and ending up at a bubbled POS. -1 Stabber Could this not be the bubble pulling u out of warp as you passed it or was it out of line?
dirtystockbird The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:07:00 - [78] Edited by: dirtystockbird on 04/03/2007 20:11:14 Originally by: Boliknar OMG, BOB DEV H4X, THE SKY IS FALLING, OMG OMG !!!!ELEVENTY-ONE!!!!! It's amazing how people ignore the obvious and jump to ridiculous conclusions rather then admit stupid mistakes (whether it's your own or someone elses in your gang). BOB could you please disconnect your "backdoor" access into the servers and stop warping hostile gangs to your pos to get obliterated? mmkay thanks! Its really funny that the fiorst person to bring BoB into this conversation is one of their friends. I dont see where the OP was blaming anyone. He was simpily asking for an explanation... Methinks he doth protest too much! Umm, perhaps you missed the first word in the title of the thread in all caps "EXPLOIT". And he also talked about how he got warped to a BOB pos. If it's a bug then put it in here as a bug and change the title. People talking about exploits where your enemies warp you to their pos's is ridiculous. You know how the eve player base works anymore, any small bug or even accident must now always be labeled an "exploit". If he had put it in here correctly as a bug then I would have never responded. But just like most people in these forums, I'm tired of reading the same old "the sky is falling, exploit exploit" crap that these forums now seem to exude on a near daily basis. I would imagine that this particular issue for most people is people clicking behind the overview (which I wish CCP would fix). But that, as nearly all things, should be labeled as a bug and not an "exploit". You want real feedback, change the title.
Einheriar Ulrich Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:15:00 - [79] I have had it a couple of times.......especially, when huge fleets of capitals are been moved in a constellation...but also experienced it with lag in other ways. Originally by: Jiekon/CCP If you are sitting with a guy and he says "ok, i'm logging off now" and you shoot him, that is fine.
Naruto Jr	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:34:00 - [80] Meh, too much crap going on with DEV/GM interaction, wish CCP staff was forced to write a NDA not to play EVE.

Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:44:00 - [81] Uhm, I've in the past accidentally warped to a moon but I figured it was accidentally double clicking or something. Something about the OP tho - you claim to be scrambled by a reinforced pos.. When a pos is in reinforced all modules that require CPU go off-line which include scramblers.. So I think there is possibly other inconsistencies with the account.. It certainly sounds like gangwarp aswell. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:44:00 - [82] Uhm, I've in the past accidentally warped to a moon but I figured it was accidentally double clicking or something. Something about the OP tho - you claim to be scrambled by a reinforced pos.. When a pos is in reinforced all modules that require CPU go off-line which include scramblers.. So I think there is possibly other inconsistencies with the account.. It certainly sounds like gangwarp aswell. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Einheriar Ulrich Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 01:16:00 - [83] Originally by: Doddy Originally by: Jin Steele Happened to me in ED- this morning, i was not in a gang. Aggroed a nanophoon, had 15 guys jump me, so i warped to a planet, planet 6 to be exact. Instead, i ended up at a POS with a small bubble, which was not even near planet 6. Petitioned, no response, but the SS and logs show me warping to planet 6 and ending up at a bubbled POS. -1 Stabber Could this not be the bubble pulling u out of warp as you passed it or was it out of line? That is a strange bug, but it hppens sometimes, experienced it a few times in YM- when warping from a certain moon to a gate parallel to our outpost. But still it sounds like a gangwarp to me Originally by: Jiekon/CCP If you are sitting with a guy and he says "ok, i'm logging off now" and you shoot him, that is fine.
DeckardIRL Bravehearts Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 01:27:00 - [84] Its a bug. I had a corp mate warp to a station, tho he was in a gang at the time... instead of warping to the station at 100km he ended up at a giant secure can 100,000km away..... this happened within the last hour. Deck _____________________________________________ Xelas Fleet Vice Admiral
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.05 01:36:00 - [85] I've never seen or heard of such a nasty case but on multiple occasions I've chosen a seemingly harmless destination to warp to, a gate or a station for example and ended up at a moon. It hasn't killed me yet but I'm sure its only a matter of time. The first time it happened I just kinda assumed I had clicked to warp to the wrong object but its happened about 3 or 4 times now. The game must get mixed up with warp to locations or something. As for the ops case it sounds like you've either got a corrupt FC or one prone to mistakes. If what you've said is correct of course.
Kur'Dekaija Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.05 01:46:00 - [86] Its not a bug, its a new feature CCP implemented into EVE to make it more sci-fi. They are just trying to create some sort of space warp anomaly. When you think you are warping forward your actually warping into a whole different direction. And sometimes due to heavy traffic the warp drives of the ships disrupts the space causing natural "tractor beams". [back from boredom] CCP should deffenetly look into this, if this is a real bug then imagine it happens on a much larger scale. 150 man fleet is warping to a gate, they get lagspike, end at enemy deathstar POS, no one can warp due to lag. OMG WTF!!1!1!11!!
Exus Die Trying	Posted - 2007.03.05 10:45:00 - [87] ships self warping ! we are doomed ! we are possessed !!! eve is under lucifer control ! dont be scared my brothers, Molle will bless us òò
Entreri Finwe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:13:00 - [88] Is it even possible to warp to something by doubble-clicking on it? I tested it the other night and I could't warp to a planet or station by doubble clicking on the icon in the main (graphical) window... ---
Chin'Mei New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:13:00 - [89] Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador BoB camera team went to investigate, this is result: Clicky What's Your point? I can't treat that as any evidence. I trust on Your and all reading this topic intelligence, so I won't explain why :) Back on topic. Sounds odd, that's for sure. If You have checked logs and You are absolutely sure no one initiated warp to the moon, yet You were warped then it is clearly (at least in my understanding) a bug. Calling it an exploit goes a bit too far though. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a BoB lover at all, but there's a line that shouldn't be crossed. Accusations have to be backed up by evidence. From what You and others say, there are only evidence of something strange, nothing linking it to BoB. Fact that majority or even all of reporting this, let's call it a bug, are from anti-BoB coalition isn't a proof it's an exploit (it is wierd to me though). As well as video material I were referring to earlier this can be interpret in various ways, I won't insult readers' inteligence by explaining why :) -------------------------------------------------- (Signature starts here) Disclaimer My oppinions are my own only, they do not reflect my corporation or alliance line of politics.
Antibac Unscoped Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 14:33:00 - [90] Double clicking on an object in space does not make you warp to it. However, there is another little UI annoyance that could explain some of these cases. If you left-click in space, and your cursor is over an object (planet, station, etc), you get a little pop-up UI widget with buttons around the cursor that allow you to do things like warp to the object, approach it, etc. I'm sure you've all seen it. If you move the cursor over one of these buttons and release you will activate that action. I have several times in the past tried to rotate my view slightly and ended up warping to an object by mistake because of this. It usually only happens when you left click within the disc of a moon, but for celestial bodies with rings, the area in space that activates this left click menu extends beyond the disc of the planet itself. You get a similar problem sometimes if you are close to stations. _____________________________________________ Contact me for standings, or if you are interested in joining Myriad Alliance

sb404 Caldari Fluffy Rabbit Killers	Posted - 2007.03.05 14:57:00 - [91] Originally by: Antibac Double clicking on an object in space does not make you warp to it. However, there is another little UI annoyance that could explain some of these cases. If you left-click in space, and your cursor is over an object (planet, station, etc), you get a little pop-up UI widget with buttons around the cursor that allow you to do things like warp to the object, approach it, etc. I'm sure you've all seen it. If you move the cursor over one of these buttons and release you will activate that action. I have several times in the past tried to rotate my view slightly and ended up warping to an object by mistake because of this. It usually only happens when you left click within the disc of a moon, but for celestial bodies with rings, the area in space that activates this left click menu extends beyond the disc of the planet itself. You get a similar problem sometimes if you are close to stations. So far, I have to say it's the most plausible explanation for a solo warp, especially if he was in ctrl-f9 and didn't have his HUD visible. But it still doesn't explain why his whole fleet was warped there also... for this, unfortunetly, it still sounds like an inside job. ------------------------------------------------- I never wrote this -Eris
Latia REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 15:39:00 - [92] Edited by: Latia on 05/03/2007 15:36:16 Edited by: Latia on 05/03/2007 15:35:44 I had something similar to this happen to me during an op last summer. I clearly warped to an outpost (using the overview which didnt' have moons or planets on it) and came out of warp on top of an enemy pos at one of the moons in order of the friendly outpost's planet. It was very strange.
Fiesler Allied Logistics Transportation Services	Posted - 2007.03.05 15:45:00 - [93] Originally by: Antibac Double clicking on an object in space does not make you warp to it. However, there is another little UI annoyance that could explain some of these cases. If you left-click in space, and your cursor is over an object (planet, station, etc), you get a little pop-up UI widget with buttons around the cursor that allow you to do things like warp to the object, approach it, etc. I'm sure you've all seen it. If you move the cursor over one of these buttons and release you will activate that action. I have several times in the past tried to rotate my view slightly and ended up warping to an object by mistake because of this. It usually only happens when you left click within the disc of a moon, but for celestial bodies with rings, the area in space that activates this left click menu extends beyond the disc of the planet itself. You get a similar problem sometimes if you are close to stations. Very logical reasoning for this issue. But that can't be the case, as you were in some kind of Bob territory and as we all know, Bob has the ability to hack the game and destroy all eve. I think I understand it now. Bob = devs = hackers = stone mason's = safespotbuster 2000 v2.3 users = templar knights = september 9/11 conspiritors = they killed Jesus!!
Johncrab Minmatar Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.03.05 15:58:00 - [94] Well, this is funny indeed. Never had this happend to me but a very strange thing did occour 2 days ago. We went on a 4 man op in low sec and ended up jumping to 0.0. At the entry system we were engaged by a hostile blob. Our FC warped out to random location with the other 2 members and i went to scout the gate back to empire in my recon. The gate was clear so i told the FC he could warp to the gate. And so he does... but next thing i know they went to a diferent gate, jumped instantly only to realized they went deeper in 0.0. Were follwed and 2 of them killed. I was kinda upset with him for making that mistake, but at the same time finding hard to believe he would do such a thing. He's and experienced pilot. He says he has no clue of what happened... well this seems to fitt in the profile of this thread of unexplained warps.
Rooker Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.05 16:14:00 - [95] This might explain a bizarre situation on our side during a fight in 9CG. We sent a fleet there to back up FIX about a week ago. We cynoed in some carriers next to a BoB POS. I -saw- them jump in less than 10km from me. A few minutes later, one of the carrier pilots is screaming that somehow he's loaded next to a RAZOR (or IRON?) POS, he's been bubbled and is in structure. We had to go rescue it and it turned out to be the best fight of the whole night. Never did figure out how the hell he got over there though.... -- Inertial Stabilizers and Nanofibers - The new Warp Core Stab. Carebears can PvP again \o/ --
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.05 16:17:00 - [96] I haven't experienced this myself, but I just want to make a note. The only people mentioning bob are members of bob or alts or bob friends. People are saying this has happened without any bob around. So you bob alts and friends, stop being idiots. You're not being questioned here. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.05 16:34:00 - [97] Originally by: Morden Nok For example, we were escorting a freighter in 0.0. Freighter pilot warps to Gate A, his overview and logs show the "Warping to Gate A" message. But when he got out of warp, he was at gate B. This has happened to me twice as well, only finding out about when i landed in wrong system. Always blamed myself for that... makes me wonder, never did check my logs, will do next time. ----------------------------------------------- My Top 10 List
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:40:00 - [98] I've experienced it as well. Several Times. One situation was very clear, and here's the facts: 1> We were gang warping from system to system. About 40 in gang. 2> I was Wing Commander. Our CEO was Fleet Commander. 3> We all jumped into system and aligned to next gate. Some time transpired - I did not double-click or iniatate any warp. Ship was at max speed and aligned to gate. 4> Fleet Commander warps all to next gate. We all get 'Following xxx into warp' message. 5> Everyone else goes to gate. I go to a moon. 6> Whole gang flames me for warping to wrong spot. It does seem to be a bug, but a hard one to reproduce. The constant seems to be going to a Moon. Also a rather large number of reports that there is a POS at the Moon when you get there.
Waz Hawat Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.06 05:11:00 - [99] Might I suggest that you misclicked on the background while getting the prettiest angle for that necessary in the middle od a siege screenie? Somtimes with lag you can tell your computer that you click on a spot 2x but only in your mind click once or not notice any click at all. Dunno know about the POS webbing you tho, only guns fucntion as they require no cpu when in reinforced. Waz
Cleron Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.06 07:22:00 - [100] I've had the warp "bug" happen to me about 5 times now & i have also experienced some thing slightly similar in normal space where my ship would change direction for no reason. There was one case when my AFK Armageddon parked right smack in the middle of a friendly POS some how managed to go from a dead stop to 400km out side the bubble heading to never never land at max speed. I was cleaning up at the time & walked passed the computer 3 times about 20-30 minutes in between. The first two times it was still parked there, but by the third time it had wandered off. There's simply no way i had anything to do with that. The keyboard had not been touched for almost an hour & the mouse was in the charging cradle. After that i started logging off rather then leaving my ships AFK at a POS.

Kage Psychodin Caldari Lockheed Technologies Inc	Posted - 2007.03.12 08:55:00 - [101] I'm fairly new to this game, this has happened twice to me in empire space, while flying my retriever while Mining. I was working on Veld for corp needs, when suddenlly: Warp drive to XXX moon 5. Huh? I suddenlly put a halt on it. I had to turn to align to it before I warped, so I had time to cancel. it wasn't even in the same direction I was facing! the second time, very similar, although I was AFK chatting, and knocking off a weakling rat with drones at the moment. Truly weird, and definitly seems like a bug. Another one bites the dust.
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.03.12 11:20:00 - [102] Interesting Topic! After reading it my view is this: Its more than meets teh eye. First a question: Can you or can you not double click on an object to initiate warp to it? And if yes, what type of objects? All? Just moons? What? I was under the impression that this function went away a long time ago? Or am I being a nooblet? 1. Some warps could be explained as misstakes; non-GUI and and having that mouse activated interface enabled for example. 2. Perhaps some spy's have done it But, in general it feels very much like something is wrong. And it feels like there are two things wrong. 3. If you warp to a planet that has lots of moons and there are bubbles at the moons/POS's it feels quite possible that they would in some cases pull you to the moon instead. This sounds completely plausible to me considering that we have seen other things effect objects if they are close enough to the source; Deadspace close to star gates anyone? That should be fairly easy to test though. 4. - Most are saying it happens when it lags - Its not only 0.0 and during big fights, empire reports too - It ranges from happening going solo as wells as in mid to large gangs - It feels like its too many ppl reporting this for it to be a freak thing Overall I think its safe to say that it needs looking into. Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Morpheus Dreadnor	Posted - 2007.03.12 15:49:00 - [103] seriously who makes u think anyone really cares.. this is just another thread wich never should have made it to the boards... the eual even state that debates with gm arent ok here.. so why isent this locked and removed.. ?=== go buy a new ship long live insurance. WHINER! Auction caracter. Signature image removed - That's just wrong... mkay? - Immy
Entreri Finwe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.03.12 20:45:00 - [104] Quote: First a question: Can you or can you not double click on an object to initiate warp to it? And if yes, what type of objects? All? Just moons? What? I was under the impression that this function went away a long time ago? Or am I being a nooblet? Smile I haven't been able to get a warp by doubble clicking on anything in the main view... Though, it may be a setting, such as 'left mouse button opens context menu' or whatever that does the difference... ---
viceman Caldari Without Reason	Posted - 2007.03.12 21:35:00 - [105] my theory the very laggy server cause you to lag out and warp to the nearest celestial object <-- something like this sounds the most sensible you know how you gate warped 100,000km form stuff when you lag out something along those lines --------------------- Ex-benwallace :P I am back foo!
Amarazo Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.12 22:45:00 - [106] Ok Now I am getting fed up. Today I heard of more **** in this way. A corp mate of mine suddenly started to enter warp in his DREAD (without ISSUE WARP), and guess where he dropped out... a 30 BoB dread group and 120 Support. CCP if you dont fix this you are GOING TO LOSE alot of players because atm you are FUC'ING up gameplay totaly this isnt even fun anymore. I can take my fully t2 fitted tempest with a ugly looking face it was insured I didnt loose that much but this is getting redicoluse. START LOOKING IN TO THIS ASAP!!!
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2007.03.12 22:57:00 - [107] Edited by: Tas Devil on 12/03/2007 22:54:43 This has happened and been documented by my gangs a number of times now...as always it will take a lot of *****ing at CCP and reporting it in numbers before they acknowledge it... for now be ready for... ''sorry our logs can't explain or don't document what you claim...good luck recovering''... and yes its a post intended to be slightly cynical as the whole situation has been reported...but as always the GMs will assume we are idiots before acknowledging the facts... Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware
NebulousBlur Minmatar Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.12 22:58:00 - [108] I've seen this as well, several times. A few times I put it up to user (me) error, where I end up warping to something other than what I had selected (best case in mind, I warp to a station, station is selected as my current item, I click warp to from the selected item panel, I end up at an asteroid belt with the station still selected). Usually it's to a random moon. But I've recently had one case where it was impossible to be a user error. My friend and I were doing a mission, we had a 2nd client with a basilisk in the gang shield transfering me. At one point I noticed that the basilisk was gone, so I tell my friend. He was as suprised as me, because the character was still online but the window was minimized. Somehow the basilisk character, while minimized, had decided to warp to a random asteroid belt. Nobody else in the gang had received a gang warp or did anything strange. There is definitely something strange going on.
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.03.13 00:28:00 - [109] Originally by: viceman my theory the very laggy server cause you to lag out and warp to the nearest celestial object <-- something like this sounds the most sensible you know how you gate warped 100,000km form stuff when you lag out something along those lines Yes, that was what I forgot to add in my post; Sometimes it feels like it could be the Emergency Warp feature gone mad. /Lowa What if the truth was something else?
hotshit The Taining corp	Posted - 2007.03.13 01:51:00 - [110] this is not the only one The corp that gives to its members

Beowulf scot	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:55:00 - [111] I was in a gang when the fc warped us to a moon and for some unknown reason i ended up outside a station on my own facing a hostile arazu in my rupture, while the rest of the gang landed safely at the moon. Its not an exploit just a problem with some coding that mixes up the warp to destination. I have found if your having lag Eve decides at random where you should be and it isn't alway where you want to be.
Agent Nuke g guild	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:49:00 - [112] You can add me to the list as well. I was sat on a gate with the rest of my gang in the system next door. I am 0km from the star gate, i left click and hold on the star gate to get the options. Click on the "Jump" option and wtf i start warping to a moon. Thank god there was nothing there but this is becoming a fecking joke now that when you try and jump through a star gate u warp to a moon
PeveS The Edge Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:33:00 - [113] Originally by: Amarazo Ok Now I am getting fed up. Today I heard of more **** in this way. A corp mate of mine suddenly started to enter warp in his DREAD (without ISSUE WARP), and guess where he dropped out... a 30 BoB dread group and 120 Support. CCP if you dont fix this you are GOING TO LOSE alot of players because atm you are FUC'ING up gameplay totaly this isnt even fun anymore. I can take my fully t2 fitted tempest with a ugly looking face it was insured I didnt loose that much but this is getting redicoluse. START LOOKING IN TO THIS ASAP!!! Petition time or did CCP told you: Sry but we cant find anything weird on our servers. I hope you recover from your loss. Sounds as a BUG to me
Dinique Caldari Malicious Intentions Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:35:00 - [114] Originally by: KIATolon CCP changed something a few patches ago regarding this, and I've done it loads of times (sometimes with gangs, sometimes on my own). I dont know how to reproduce it (and haven't tried) but it's always because I am accidently clicking a few times on a moon when I am moving the camera. I noticed this happening to me a few times as well, and I have discovered the cause: It usually happens when you try to pan the camera. You click and hold somewhere in space and start dragging the mouse in order to move the camera, instead you accidentally click on an object in space such as a moon (who's icons are not displayed in space by default) and then the context menu pops up (the circular one with the icons) and you release the mouse with the cursor over the warp to icon. Since you are trying to pan the camera, when it won't move you release the mouse and try again quickly and without thinking about it, hence you never notice this context menu because it appears only for an instant. Does anyone even use that crappy circular context menu? I find it highly annoying. _____ The species has amused to death
DanMck Amarr Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2007.03.13 19:50:00 - [115] Originally by: KIATolon CCP changed something a few patches ago regarding this, and I've done it loads of times (sometimes with gangs, sometimes on my own). I dont know how to reproduce it (and haven't tried) but it's always because I am accidently clicking a few times on a moon when I am moving the camera. done this myself and warped to a moon was lucky there was no pos there
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.03.13 19:53:00 - [116] Originally by: Dinique Originally by: KIATolon CCP changed something a few patches ago regarding this, and I've done it loads of times (sometimes with gangs, sometimes on my own). I dont know how to reproduce it (and haven't tried) but it's always because I am accidently clicking a few times on a moon when I am moving the camera. I noticed this happening to me a few times as well, and I have discovered the cause: It usually happens when you try to pan the camera. You click and hold somewhere in space and start dragging the mouse in order to move the camera, instead you accidentally click on an object in space such as a moon (who's icons are not displayed in space by default) and then the context menu pops up (the circular one with the icons) and you release the mouse with the cursor over the warp to icon. Since you are trying to pan the camera, when it won't move you release the mouse and try again quickly and without thinking about it, hence you never notice this context menu because it appears only for an instant. Does anyone even use that crappy circular context menu? I find it highly annoying. Good point, but the real question is: if you have disabled the Circular context menu can it still be accessed by "mistake" when in non-gui mode panning the camera... Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
dastommy79 Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 20:08:00 - [117] I've had this happen to me a couple times too. Once in a decent sized gang, half of us warped to the gate, the other half ended up at some moon. Sometimes the problem is that u select a moon thats behind your overview but that wouldnt explain why half went to the gate and half a moon. happend a couple other times as well but i dont remeber them very well. Good to see others are seeing this and not just me http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg
Entreri Finwe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.03.13 20:51:00 - [118] Originally by: Lowa Originally by: Dinique Originally by: KIATolon CCP changed something a few patches ago regarding this, and I've done it loads of times (sometimes with gangs, sometimes on my own). I dont know how to reproduce it (and haven't tried) but it's always because I am accidently clicking a few times on a moon when I am moving the camera. I noticed this happening to me a few times as well, and I have discovered the cause: It usually happens when you try to pan the camera. You click and hold somewhere in space and start dragging the mouse in order to move the camera, instead you accidentally click on an object in space such as a moon (who's icons are not displayed in space by default) and then the context menu pops up (the circular one with the icons) and you release the mouse with the cursor over the warp to icon. Since you are trying to pan the camera, when it won't move you release the mouse and try again quickly and without thinking about it, hence you never notice this context menu because it appears only for an instant. Does anyone even use that crappy circular context menu? I find it highly annoying. Good point, but the real question is: if you have disabled the Circular context menu can it still be accessed by "mistake" when in non-gui mode panning the camera... Cheers, Lowa Hmmm...I just realised that it could be this combined with the random loss of mousepress I get sometimes, though my mouse was starting to act up but i haven't noticed it outside of Eve... The thing is that it could be that you are panning, the mouse drops the pressed button releases and double clicks (this happens to me at intervals) thus warping you by you clicking the context-menu... Don't know if that makes any sense, not natice english and it's getting late... ---
Amarazo Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.14 11:55:00 - [119] Thanks for all the great imputs, I think I am sure what gone wrong thanks to: Dinique, Caldari Malicious Intentions Anarchy Empire. Thanks Mate that was really nice inputs make alot of sence shall try and give this imputs to CCP... Though they arent really listening as I thought that the POS were in Reinforced but according to GMs I were misstaken. Well well Thanks to all that have helped. Anyone got other intel about this let me know. Amarazo
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:50:00 - [120] Check your logs. They'll specify whether you were following a gangwarp ("Following <commander> in warp"), warped yourself (easy to do during a lagspike by clicking and holding while near a moon, as you are when you're near a conq./NPC station or at a gate with an associated moon, "Warping to Planet <x> Moon <y>"), or the victim of l33t devsploithax while e-warping (nothing in the log). --P

Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.14 22:45:00 - [121] I have had this happen as well. I was chatting to my corp while sitting at a gate camp. Multiple people in gang and because the gang was just forming there werent any WCs or SCs only the FC and he was not at the gate yet. I checked all of this. So while im chatting trying to get more people into the gang. Bam my cepter enters warp and next thing i know. Im at a moon. Usually its always a moon. Sometimes its just a random spot or im in such a hurry to get back to gang that i dont look around to much (heh who wants to wait and see whats there) This has happened to me maybe 5 times. Some times im chatting sometimes im panning the cam. Others im being gang warped with the rest of the fleet. (Already aligned and my speed is constant i dont touch anything on keyboard or mouse) Fleet gang warps and hey lookie here im going to a moon again. Its always me that ends up at the moon never a gang member. I have yet to sacrifice a ship to this (crossing fingers) and usually there arent hostiles in system. Very annoying bug.
Tomic Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:04:00 - [122] I have had both the kinds of this bug happen to me recently. During the BOB war I had several situations where I was chilling at a POS, NOT in a gang, with my hands nowhere near the keyboard or mouse just listening on ts for orders and suddenly my ship started warping. I have also had situations where I've been moving a small gang of people around, gang warped to a gate and I or a single member of my gang has landed at a seemingly random moon. Luckily I've never lost a ship to this "feature" but that's only because it has happened in systems that don't have any/many POSs up. PS: I wish people would refrain from pointless flaming/trolling in a thread that actually contains something important, but shrug.
R3dSh1ft Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:05:00 - [123] This has happened/has been happening for a while... When MC invaded g-7 in the first Prohibition campaign there was much lag whilst pilots were shooting the station. A large number of pilots on vent reported being warped off randomly to different celestials (moons, planets, the station etc.) Its a bug somewhere in the lag recovery code I'm guessing... that or something we arent allowed to discuss on this forum (i.e. cheating) ... either way the ships need to be reimbursed IN FULL (including stuff lost in cans) as this is a completely server side issue. ______________________________________
Rina Shanu Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:22:00 - [124] I just want to sustain the original poster in the fact that we have issues concerning the game play and teh servers that need to be addressed. It has happened to me to be hugging a gate waiting for the chance to jump on the other side when I just warped, out of the blue.. I did not end at any planet or moon but it freaked me out. This is just not normal, if I have a connection problem that ffs just disconnect me, but this was not the case. I am also **ed about entire gangs and fleets just logging off whenever they are outmatched or there is a possibility of losing the field. of course, I represent myself and not speak or act on behalf or my corporation or alliance ** EVE FAN FEST
BiONetworks Caldari e X i l e Alektorophobia	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:23:00 - [125] This has happened to myself and a few others in my corp/alliance. random warp offs and random uncloaks when jumping into gates and your ship flys off to wherever it wants or just randomly starts warping somewhere. Its fairly annoying but I usually catch it in time. Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])


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