Originally by: Ionia

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2. You have a 2b isk CNR and a NH and you cant tank a L4 mission? WTF?

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Originally by: Ionia

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There are a number of issues here...


2. You have a 2b isk CNR and a NH and you cant tank a L4 mission? WTF?

6. 'Decent time'? You'll be attended to in your turn, posting here isnt going to speed the process up for you.

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Originally by: Ionia

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2. You have a 2b isk CNR and a NH and you cant tank a L4 mission? WTF?

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Originally by: xh'duality

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2 bill down the drain cause of stupidity I would say.

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Originally by: SonOTassadar

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Edited by: SonOTassadar on 04/03/2007 07:41:27
1. There is no mission on this planet that is so difficult you have to warp out with a faction/officer/t2 fitted CNR and who knows what on said Nighthawk.

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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worst part is theres a 500mn ISK bo0ster sitting in there in my wreck and we cant get anywhere close to it to get it out

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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worst part is theres a 500mn ISK bo0ster sitting in there in my wreck and we cant get anywhere close to it to get it out

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Originally by: Pattern Clarc

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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worst part is theres a 500mn ISK bo0ster sitting in there in my wreck and we cant get anywhere close to it to get it out

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which system?

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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Originally by: Pattern Clarc

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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worst part is theres a 500mn ISK bo0ster sitting in there in my wreck and we cant get anywhere close to it to get it out

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which system?

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oichiya

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Originally by: Jiekon

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ISD are carebears.

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Originally by: SpaceVulture

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Thats what you get for playing games with 56k , i never lag in eve , learn to get a better internet connection i say.


ps can I have your stuff?

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: Imechal Ravpeim

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Rule 1: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

I wish people would stop thinking PvE makes them exempt from this rule...

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: hotgirl933

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good stuff, have u tried doint something useful like 0.0 PVP or other stuff lol

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Originally by: Ionia

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There are a number of issues here...

1. If it was a legitmate server lag issue, which is what it sounds like with both you and your 'partner' experiencing a problem, then it will be reimbursed to you.

2. You have a 2b isk CNR and a NH and you cant tank a L4 mission? WTF?

3. In regards to being useless without your stuff, it sounds like the stuff part is irrelavent. Refer to (2).

4. Where exactly will you be taking your 3 accounts? I dont believe they are transferrable to other games.

5. I fully support the idea of you leaving eve if it means I dont have to read another post like this again.

6. 'Decent time'? You'll be attended to in your turn, posting here isnt going to speed the process up for you.

7. Can I have your stuff?

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Originally by: GLok

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he'd probably get his stuff back to be fair, but if his petition was anything like this:
OMG FFS GUYZ U LYK TOTALLI MADEZ ME LOZE MY CADLRI NAVEY RAVENZ FFS GIVZ IT BAKZ NEWBS.
Then he definetly wont, and from his post it sounds like thats what he said.

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: hUssmann

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Rule 1.

Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

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Originally by: Death Kill

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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I experienced the same thing once and I got my stuff back, you obviously just got a rubbish GM. Ask for a second opinion.


That being said, if you do lv4's in a lagged out system then you deserve it really.

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Originally by: Hephaesteus

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Man O man every once in a while you see a post that makes you laugh, this was one. You got a 2 billion isk CNR with no permatank, tbh your own fault.

I can sit in last lvl of Pirate slaughter and tank it all day.

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Originally by: Ghan Tylous

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Originally by: SonOTassadar

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Edited by: SonOTassadar on 04/03/2007 07:41:27
1. There is no mission on this planet that is so difficult you have to warp out with a faction/officer/t2 fitted CNR and who knows what on said Nighthawk.

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Only if you fly missions in the lag infested Motsu/Isenairos area on peak times.

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: Magnum III

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How about an L4 in low sec like it is gonna be for FW?

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: kieron

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The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.

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Originally by: Ghan Tylous

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Originally by: SonOTassadar

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Edited by: SonOTassadar on 04/03/2007 07:41:27
1. There is no mission on this planet that is so difficult you have to warp out with a faction/officer/t2 fitted CNR and who knows what on said Nighthawk.

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Only if you fly missions in the lag infested Motsu/Isenairos area on peak times.

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Originally by: kieron

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The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.

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Quote:

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Why do people quitting never have just 1 account? Rolling Eyes

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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ive spent over 800hours logged into this game and for the most part it has been a decent game. Its not like im a NUB with no skills.. but when your mods wont even activate due to lag.. there is a serious prollem.

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: GLok

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HippoKing news reports:
OMG GUYS IM UPSET BECAUSE ALL THAT RL MONEY I SPENT ON A GAME I JUST LOST TO LAG :o

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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ive spent over 800hours logged into this game and for the most part it has been a decent game. Its not like im a NUB with no skills.. but when your mods wont even activate due to lag.. there is a serious prollem.

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Originally by: GLok

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HippoKing news reports:
OMG GUYS IM UPSET BECAUSE ALL THAT RL MONEY I SPENT ON A GAME I JUST LOST TO LAG :o

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Originally by: Treener

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Originally by: GLok

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HippoKing news reports:
OMG GUYS IM UPSET BECAUSE ALL THAT RL MONEY I SPENT ON A GAME I JUST LOST TO LAG :o

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Originally by: GLok

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HippoKing news reports:
OMG GUYS IM UPSET BECAUSE ALL THAT RL MONEY I SPENT ON A GAME I JUST LOST TO LAG :o

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Originally by: kieron

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The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.

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Originally by: GLok

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HippoKing news reports:
OMG GUYS IM UPSET BECAUSE ALL THAT RL MONEY I SPENT ON A GAME I JUST LOST TO LAG :o

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Originally by: Depp Knight

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Edited by: Depp Knight on 04/03/2007 16:37:42
Edited by: Depp Knight on 04/03/2007 16:37:27
Sounds to me that this thread is only an excuse to get Dev attention for them to reply to your petition a soon as possible. Then you aggressively remind CCP that if you donÆt get your ship back you will cancel all 3 of your subscriptions.

For someone who flies a faction ship you obviously been in this game for some time unless you bought the ship on ebay or something which i believe is illegal to do in eve. Otherworlds your very childish, naive or ignorant for you to make this thread because obviously it was a lag issue and obviously you will get your ship back. You just want to make the process quicker and or get noticed in the process.

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Originally by: Ionia

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You have a 2b isk CNR and a NH and you cant tank a L4 mission? WTF?

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: GLok

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HippoKing news reports:
OMG GUYS IM UPSET BECAUSE ALL THAT RL MONEY I SPENT ON A GAME I JUST LOST TO LAG :o

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Originally by: GLok

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HippoKing news reports:
OMG GUYS IM UPSET BECAUSE ALL THAT RL MONEY I SPENT ON A GAME I JUST LOST TO LAG :o

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Originally by: Lister Black

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Can I have your stuff?

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Originally by: Steele Storm

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Originally by: GLok

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HippoKing news reports:
OMG GUYS IM UPSET BECAUSE ALL THAT RL MONEY I SPENT ON A GAME I JUST LOST TO LAG :o

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Well there goes my sympathy

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Originally by: Steele Storm

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Originally by: GLok

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HippoKing news reports:
OMG GUYS IM UPSET BECAUSE ALL THAT RL MONEY I SPENT ON A GAME I JUST LOST TO LAG :o

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Well there goes my sympathy

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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum

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most problems can be solved with chloroform.

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Originally by: Hellspawn01

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When a player spends alot of time to get the ISK together to buy such a ship, then he doesnt deserve to loose it to lag. If no reply comes from a GM, then its a kick in the face.

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Originally by: Hellspawn01

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When a player spends alot of time to get the ISK together to buy such a ship, then he doesnt deserve to loose it to lag. If no reply comes from a GM, then its a kick in the face.

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Originally by: Hellspawn01

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When a player spends alot of time to get the ISK together to buy such a ship, then he doesnt deserve to loose it to lag. If no reply comes from a GM, then its a kick in the face.

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Originally by: Riho

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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first.... t2 fitted CNR can tank eny lvl4 mission, so ur setup sucks ballz. so does ur m8s.. couse a nighthawk can have a better tank whit t2 stuff. if u where useing faction... them omg... u must have been useing wrong stuff :P

u petitioned it... wait untill you get a response... dont come cry when u dont get answerd whitin 5 minz. there are 100s of other ppl who have petitions allso.

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Originally by: FireFoxx80

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Originally by: Hellspawn01

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When a player spends alot of time to get the ISK together to buy such a ship, then he doesnt deserve to loose it to lag. If no reply comes from a GM, then its a kick in the face.

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He will get a reply; along the lines of: "our server logs show nothing".

If he does get reimbursed, I'll quit my two accounts

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Originally by: Riho

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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first.... t2 fitted CNR can tank eny lvl4 mission, so ur setup sucks ballz. so does ur m8s.. couse a nighthawk can have a better tank whit t2 stuff. if u where useing faction... them omg... u must have been useing wrong stuff :P

u petitioned it... wait untill you get a response... dont come cry when u dont get answerd whitin 5 minz. there are 100s of other ppl who have petitions allso.

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Originally by: FireFoxx80

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Originally by: Hellspawn01

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When a player spends alot of time to get the ISK together to buy such a ship, then he doesnt deserve to loose it to lag. If no reply comes from a GM, then its a kick in the face.

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He will get a reply; along the lines of: "our server logs show nothing".

If he does get reimbursed, I'll quit my two accounts

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Originally by: Riho

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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first.... t2 fitted CNR can tank eny lvl4 mission, so ur setup sucks ballz. so does ur m8s.. couse a nighthawk can have a better tank whit t2 stuff. if u where useing faction... them omg... u must have been useing wrong stuff :P

u petitioned it... wait untill you get a response... dont come cry when u dont get answerd whitin 5 minz. there are 100s of other ppl who have petitions allso.

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Originally by: FireFoxx80

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Originally by: Hellspawn01

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When a player spends alot of time to get the ISK together to buy such a ship, then he doesnt deserve to loose it to lag. If no reply comes from a GM, then its a kick in the face.

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He will get a reply; along the lines of: "our server logs show nothing".

If he does get reimbursed, I'll quit my two accounts

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Originally by: Ghan Tylous

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If you have petition it, wait for the GMs response. Its not end of the world to lose a ship!

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: Ghan Tylous

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If you have petition it, wait for the GMs response. Its not end of the world to lose a ship!

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine. As the mission progresses i need to warp out. Im already aligned to a stargate so warping should be instant. When i see that my tank isnt going to hold, i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me and my partner and both of us sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust. I lost 2bn ISK on my CNR and he lost a Nighthawk. So ive petitioned it but is CCP gonna do anything about it. I am essentially useless in my playing without the stuf i lost and dont intend to spend a year building back up to it again. Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time.

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Originally by: RtoZ

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Now for the clueless: Some lvl4 missions hit you for over 1000dps, tank that with your gisti permaboost if you can. I've been in situations where my 3b equipped cnr could only just hold on boost with a pith x-type booster and boost amp combo. So no, a 2b config STILL won't let you permatank several of the higher danger lvl4 missions. MAYBE with a focused pith x-type hardener setup, but thats another 1.2-1.5b on top of my config, and we are going into 4.5b isk configs here to run missions that give you 50m isk hour tops. You guys do the math.

Also, as I posted with pics a while back, there is a TERRIBLE lack of sync bug somewhere in the netcode, which gives you false feedback on the client side. This bug is even more dangerous because you cannot easily distinguish it from a normal lag spike, so if you get hit during one of those 1000dps moments for exp, if you don't react quickly and relog you can easily lose 25k hitpoints, especially since the armour and structure of a caldari ship allways have minimal resists. I've had my CNR to half hull twice now, and only my experience running missions has given me Lagsense(tm), which is what has kept my ship alive. That said I fully expect to lose it someday due to some gamecode or lag related issue, which is why I keep a spare rattlesnake Also, one nasty EVE feature, if you happen to be jammed when you lag out kiss the ship goodbye, because the client will report a ctrl-q and the game will assume your cheating. So use ctrl alt del in those situations? (untested)

Slamming into the guy who got ripped off because of bad code is imature imo, regardless of how he got his stuff, getting items in eve is never easy, unless you make your isk scamming people...

Mission runners are people to.

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Originally by: Sun Tzu

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In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.

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Originally by: RtoZ

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Now for the clueless: Some lvl4 missions hit you for over 1000dps, tank that with your gisti permaboost if you can. I've been in situations where my 3b equipped cnr could only just hold on boost with a pith x-type booster and boost amp combo. So no, a 2b config STILL won't let you permatank several of the higher danger lvl4 missions. MAYBE with a focused pith x-type hardener setup, but thats another 1.2-1.5b on top of my config, and we are going into 4.5b isk configs here to run missions that give you 50m isk hour tops. You guys do the math.

Also, as I posted with pics a while back, there is a TERRIBLE lack of sync bug somewhere in the netcode, which gives you false feedback on the client side. This bug is even more dangerous because you cannot easily distinguish it from a normal lag spike, so if you get hit during one of those 1000dps moments for exp, if you don't react quickly and relog you can easily lose 25k hitpoints, especially since the armour and structure of a caldari ship allways have minimal resists. I've had my CNR to half hull twice now, and only my experience running missions has given me Lagsense(tm), which is what has kept my ship alive. That said I fully expect to lose it someday due to some gamecode or lag related issue, which is why I keep a spare rattlesnake Also, one nasty EVE feature, if you happen to be jammed when you lag out kiss the ship goodbye, because the client will report a ctrl-q and the game will assume your cheating. So use ctrl alt del in those situations? (untested)

Slamming into the guy who got ripped off because of bad code is imature imo, regardless of how he got his stuff, getting items in eve is never easy, unless you make your isk scamming people...

Mission runners are people to.

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Originally by: Sun Tzu

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In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.

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Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith

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Why don't people who wanna leave just....leave. Why do they feel it necessary to repeatedly post how dissappointed they are and can't cope with the exact same stuff the rest of us seem able to cope with just fine.

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Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith

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Why don't people who wanna leave just....leave. Why do they feel it necessary to repeatedly post how dissappointed they are and can't cope with the exact same stuff the rest of us seem able to cope with just fine.

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Originally by: RtoZ

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So the dude sold timecards, who cares? I need to buy them off someone...

Now for the clueless: Some lvl4 missions hit you for over 1000dps, tank that with your gisti permaboost if you can. I've been in situations where my 3b equipped cnr could only just hold on boost with a pith x-type booster and boost amp combo. So no, a 2b config STILL won't let you permatank several of the higher danger lvl4 missions. MAYBE with a focused pith x-type hardener setup, but thats another 1.2-1.5b on top of my config, and we are going into 4.5b isk configs here to run missions that give you 50m isk hour tops. You guys do the math.

[snip]

Slamming into the guy who got ripped off because of bad code is imature imo, regardless of how he got his stuff, getting items in eve is never easy, unless you make your isk scamming people...

Mission runners are people to.

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Originally by: RtoZ

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So the dude sold timecards, who cares? I need to buy them off someone...

Now for the clueless: Some lvl4 missions hit you for over 1000dps, tank that with your gisti permaboost if you can. I've been in situations where my 3b equipped cnr could only just hold on boost with a pith x-type booster and boost amp combo. So no, a 2b config STILL won't let you permatank several of the higher danger lvl4 missions. MAYBE with a focused pith x-type hardener setup, but thats another 1.2-1.5b on top of my config, and we are going into 4.5b isk configs here to run missions that give you 50m isk hour tops. You guys do the math.

[snip]

Slamming into the guy who got ripped off because of bad code is imature imo, regardless of how he got his stuff, getting items in eve is never easy, unless you make your isk scamming people...

Mission runners are people to.

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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia

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Originally by: Ghan Tylous

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Originally by: SonOTassadar

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Edited by: SonOTassadar on 04/03/2007 07:41:27
1. There is no mission on this planet that is so difficult you have to warp out with a faction/officer/t2 fitted CNR and who knows what on said Nighthawk.

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Only if you fly missions in the lag infested Motsu/Isenairos area on peak times.

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You still don't lose a NH in Motsu. I've drawn full aggro on some levels for the hell of it, you still don't die unless you start offlining stuff.

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Originally by: Nymos

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enemies about 5/5 is a breeze with decent skills and correct resists especially with a nighthawk. he surely would have also come to the forums had he died not because of lag but because of a scrambling frig.

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Originally by: Sun Tzu

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In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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Originally by: Pattern Clarc

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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worst part is theres a 500mn ISK bo0ster sitting in there in my wreck and we cant get anywhere close to it to get it out

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which system?

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oichiya

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Originally by: RtoZ

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Now for the clueless: Some lvl4 missions hit you for over 1000dps, tank that with your gisti permaboost if you can. I've been in situations where my 3b equipped cnr could only just hold on boost with a pith x-type booster and boost amp combo. So no, a 2b config STILL won't let you permatank several of the higher danger lvl4 missions. MAYBE with a focused pith x-type hardener setup, but thats another 1.2-1.5b on top of my config, and we are going into 4.5b isk configs here to run missions that give you 50m isk hour tops. You guys do the math.

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Originally by: RtoZ

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Now for the clueless: Some lvl4 missions hit you for over 1000dps, tank that with your gisti permaboost if you can. I've been in situations where my 3b equipped cnr could only just hold on boost with a pith x-type booster and boost amp combo. So no, a 2b config STILL won't let you permatank several of the higher danger lvl4 missions. MAYBE with a focused pith x-type hardener setup, but thats another 1.2-1.5b on top of my config, and we are going into 4.5b isk configs here to run missions that give you 50m isk hour tops. You guys do the math.

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Originally by: Nymos

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@setup: that's why the gist x-type booster is better and more expensive than the pith x-type one. not only are the cpu requirements of the pith sb insane, it is also not as cap efficient as the gist one. the boost with a gist sb is more than enough to tank any mission (i boost 974 every 4s) and i mean the whole pocket not just a group. the only mission in caldari space that really is scary as hell is angel extra bonus stage (horrible lag). the gist sb still can't perma-run, but it takes 3 minutes to be out of cap from full if i ran it permanently.

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Originally by: Nymos

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@setup: that's why the gist x-type booster is better and more expensive than the pith x-type one. not only are the cpu requirements of the pith sb insane, it is also not as cap efficient as the gist one. the boost with a gist sb is more than enough to tank any mission (i boost 974 every 4s) and i mean the whole pocket not just a group. the only mission in caldari space that really is scary as hell is angel extra bonus stage (horrible lag). the gist sb still can't perma-run, but it takes 3 minutes to be out of cap from full if i ran it permanently.

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Ill be taking my 3 accounts and leaving eve if this doesnt get fixed and within some decent time

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Originally by: RtoZ

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Edited by: RtoZ on 04/03/2007 22:04:16

I've usually seen both gist and pith at similar prices. But you know I'm right if you think about it. The last level of Angel Extravaganza hits you for over 1000dps, and even with a permaboost setup you cannot tank that much damage solo, even if you're boosting 1k every 4 seconds. You can't kill enough hostiles to hold on either, which is why you have to do the mission in two or three warp outs. Sure, the dude is a novice and paid for his stuff with RL money, but that dosen't alter the fact that it's still impossible to make an invulnerable mission running config, so give the dude some slack, especially in face of the bugs everyone posting on this thread know exist in the game. Let him whine, it's justified. I boost 1200+, and I can't hold Angels Extravaganza level six without a warp out with a ship 1b isk better equipped than the OP on full boost, and it can boost 30k hitpoints with full capacitance before it finally runs out (3 t1 ccc rigs). With lag the easier missions become killers, so I know the OP, even if he is noobish, isn't being a pushover. Gamecode most likely screwed him over, has happened to me 3 times with normal ravens.

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You have a 2b isk CNR and a NH and you cant tank a L4 mission? WTF?

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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ive spent over 800hours logged into this game and for the most part it has been a decent game. Its not like im a NUB with no skills.. but when your mods wont even activate due to lag.. there is a serious prollem.

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Originally by: Akita T

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Third, what mission were you running anyway ?
Short of Enemies Abound 1/5 or 5/5 (or a badly aggroed Blockade), I can't think of ANY mission that could do what you just described to a CNR and a NH, unless the pilots tweaked their ships for maximum damage instead of maximum tank.

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Originally by: Ionia

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4. Where exactly will you be taking your 3 accounts? I dont believe they are transferrable to other games.

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Originally by: Asmodi Mhul

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Reading comprehension is your friend
He was running Enemies abound 5/5...

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Originally by: RtoZ

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It's possible to do ALL level 4 missions solo, but some of them cannot be tanked solo without warping out, well, at least not with the OP's budget, which is what most people don't seem to understand. And it dosen't matter if you have two players, the mission will only aggro one at a time.

Just one more thing I feel I have to say in this thread:

It's not that I care about the OP's plight, its that people are trying to make him a noob for a situation which happens all too often in eve and results from bad code. You are all shooting yourself in the foot for not positioning yourselves as consumers and asking for better development support, which is the correct thing to do in lag loss situations, be it in PVE, PVP or even industry and trade. WHO it happens to is irrelevant.

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Originally by: RtoZ

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Hephaesteus: You can permaboost, but even a permaboost setup has a maximum damage threshold. Basically a permaboost means you get allmost 1k of your shield back every 4 seconds, which is a recharge rate on steroids. But if the damage is over your recharge you're still gonna die. If you doubt me take a permaboost ship into a fleet op and watch it instapop like anything else

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Originally by: Spix 'UK

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HAHA am sorry but thats just so funny .. that the guy got a faction fitted CNR with Game time codes.. dam that hurts.. perhaps if you got ur isk doin level 4s.. instead of just skill training & throwin real life money at it - you would of lived more..

anyone who spends that amount of real life money & dies to NPC's is just funny . la call it a troll..

Am sat here with 2 faction hybird Battleships faction fitted.. & only used 6 game time cards.. to which both extend the 2 of my accounts . Really who plays eve with just 1 account these days? :)

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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So im in a LvL 4 mission in my CNR and rocking along just fine..... When i see that my tank isnt going to hold ....., i warp with over half shield left. An enourmous lag spike hits me ... sit there with our ships saying warping while we get pounded to dust

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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hence the lag tasticness of it all.. modules wouldnt even activate.. just sat there and died.. and in my turn is fine.. but several months after posting my last petition.. it still hasnt even been responded to so i think i have reason to *****Rolling Eyes

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Originally by: Saltire

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I hope you get your cnr back so i can kill you when your precious level 4's get moved to lowsec, you whining lump of mission running trash.

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Originally by: Nymos

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Originally by: RtoZ

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Edited by: RtoZ on 04/03/2007 22:04:16

I've usually seen both gist and pith at similar prices. But you know I'm right if you think about it. The last level of Angel Extravaganza hits you for over 1000dps, and even with a permaboost setup you cannot tank that much damage solo, even if you're boosting 1k every 4 seconds. You can't kill enough hostiles to hold on either, which is why you have to do the mission in two or three warp outs. Sure, the dude is a novice and paid for his stuff with RL money, but that dosen't alter the fact that it's still impossible to make an invulnerable mission running config, so give the dude some slack, especially in face of the bugs everyone posting on this thread know exist in the game. Let him whine, it's justified. I boost 1200+, and I can't hold Angels Extravaganza level six without a warp out with a ship 1b isk better equipped than the OP on full boost, and it can boost 30k hitpoints with full capacitance before it finally runs out (3 t1 ccc rigs). With lag the easier missions become killers, so I know the OP, even if he is noobish, isn't being a pushover. Gamecode most likely screwed him over, has happened to me 3 times with normal ravens.

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it is possible to do angel extra solo, i did it twice today. cap goes down to about one third lowest. the battlecruisers and destroyers add insane dps. but i use a gist-x xl boost, estamel amp and 3 pith-x hardeners, 1 dread invul. resists >> boost especially with less cap on the gist sb.

i'm pretty sure one day i'll lose it to lag too and cry for a week hehe. don't think i would replace it. i'd rather get a drake and rat in 0.0 for just 100m.

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Originally by: Nathan Rees

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Edited by: Nathan Rees on 05/03/2007 13:02:49
To those who posted with a positive reply I would like to say thank you. For those of you who posted negatively, I hope it made you feel better about yourselves. You can put your flame throwers away now as the situation has been rectified and the ship has been replaced. Special thanks to the GM who got to the Petition within 24 hours of its posting. Ive sent in a few petitions before for various things, but have never had one fixed so quickly. My faith in CCp has been renewed and now its time to get back to playing.

Thank You CCP

PS... No you cant have my stuff... Im Staying

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