I don't think calling "blob" a blob is an insult. Also, F1 spamming is not derogatory, is... a mechanic when you get to be one small cog in a big machine.
Of course that does not lead exactly to skillful gameplay. If anything, big fleets require very good strategists, I concede that.

In EvE you can sort-of do the same, by going 12 vs 30 and similar and still take them out. I couldn't get the same adrenaline, the same feeling of accomplishment, when it was 1k vs 1k and all you could do was to enjoy lag and random hits coming for a random amount of time from a random opponent.

Fleet Fighters (the people you derogatorily call "blobbers" and "F1 spammers") tend to not care about that kind of action. When I'm in a fleet I'm not looking for 'gudfights', I'm fighting to preserve my ratting space and the ratting/mining/industrial space of my friends and alliance mates (or take new space that we can then install other friends in). The in game proceeds from ratting let me plex my 4 accounts without using my cash.

While this is true of many 0.0 residents - there *are* true "F1 Monkeys" that tend to give the rest of you a bad name.

These are the players who *don't* care about the territory or the opportunities it affords - they literally *only* play to participate in giant fleets and press their F1 key when told to do so. What they get out of this is impressive looking killboards and bragging rights - even when such fleets lose the only way to get a bad-looking killboard from it is if you are the first to die.

In addition to paying a subscription fee - these players end up buying PLEX to sell for isk to buy more ships just to participate in these fleets - because they have no in-game income. The blob-fights are literally all they do.

I 100% know these players exist - because I'm at work right now, and I am literally 3 feet away from one of them.


It is a play-style like any other....as long as they enjoy it it is their decision how to play v0v


As for how common they are - there is no way to prove that...but they've seemed fairly prevalent in most 0.0 groups I've been a part of (admittedly I wasn't in very good 0.0 alliances)...

But these are the players that I think of at least when referring to "blobbers" or "F1 Monkeys", etc - and they really do exist, they aren't a myth

The question that popped into my head reading this is "ok, and?"

There are people who mine just to watch ore fill their holds. There are people who ship spin and do literally nothing else. What does that have to do you you or me or anyone else? It's not your cash their are spending to sub.

As I said - they can play that way if they want, I have no particular problem with it.

But when *I* say "F1 Monkey" or something like that - I'm talking about *them*. 9 times out of 10 people like you assume I'm talking about you and jump in to defend yourselves, saying you aren't F1 monkeys.... But at least for myself, I'm not talking about players like you...

That is all

Then you should use a different word for what you mean. Apparently your idea of an F1 monkey is vastly different from what most other people think.

Then you should use a different word for what you mean. Apparently your idea of an F1 monkey is vastly different from what most other people think.

Well said.

It's not a huge deal, just irritating, people who use terms like "F1 monkey" are actually saying "I'm morally superior to you because I play a video game by smashing 2 or more buttons compared to your one". That makes them jsut as bad as the people they complain about.

It's that stupid, we are all wasting precious life time playing a video game. Even in the context of the game the fleet fighter (even if they are doing it just for killmails) is no lesser than some leet solo pvper or miner or banker or high sec mission runner or ganker or whatever.

OK...fine...You *are* an F1 monkey....

Yeesh, I didn't know it mattered that much to you that I include you in the F1 monkey group...I'll use the term to describe all 0.0 residents from now on - just for you o7

You should try growing up. Or would it be easier to just blame me because you hold a prejudiced attitude about something inconsequential?

Either way is good with me.

Look, I was simply explaining that I use the term in an accurate fashion - to describe players who could literally be replaced by a monkey trained to press the F1 key. And I know such players exist because I know some of them personally...

I went out of my way to say I do not think the term applies to the majority of 0.0 residents, I know most of you do a lot more than that...

I also made it clear that I have no problem with them playing that way - but F1 monkey is simply an accurate description of what they do...

*You* are the one who took that as an insult, that I wasn't including you...


So...why don't *you* grow up, or grow some thicker skin. You insist on taking insults where none have even been aimed at you, then of course people will insult you. Deal with it.

I'm should grow up, yet I'm not the one calling other players "monkeys" while hiding behind a forum alt.

You belong here.

When I insult you, son, you'll know it, you'll barely be able to pepper your posts with embarrassment smiles (which tend to pop up when someone realizes they made themselves look like a fool) your hand will be shaking so much.

There's only one way to settle this, ladies

SHUTTLE FIGHT!

Both contestants meet @ 4-4 , first one bumped off 0 or ganked loses.

SHUTTLE FIGHT!

Both contestants meet @ 4-4 , first one bumped off 0 or ganked loses.

Won't work. Shuttle flight requires use of more than one button, and since apparently some of us are so monkey like we can only press F1.....

Really? How would you define an F1 monkey then - if it is *not* a player who *only* flies in 0.0 blob fleets?

Please, elaborate...

Jenn explained already. No need to repeat it.

Who won? Too late to place bets?

Maybe what we really need to do is a big free-for-all shuttle fight with everybody who has posted in this thread.

Actually Jenn never did explain...

Just complained at me rather vaguely...

I believe what Jenn would like to say (but can't seem to articulate) is that the term is offensive and I shouldn't use it *at all*...

But what the two of you actually keep seeming to say is that you are offended I didn't include you in the term "F1 Monkey" - like it is a group you are jealous you can't be part of...