Originally by: Garia666

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Edited by: Garia666 on 19/03/2007 14:56:55

I see no honor in your actions tbh..
anyway gl destroying your alliance.

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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs

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Come on...

No one forces you to stay in an alliance, if you wish to leave "theres the door". If you feel Xelas or any other Alliance is not good enough for you, then say it in public, make your case and then leave! Join the many people in Fountain against BoB, but this just stinks of back stabbing and bitterness.

Your high up in a corp? how you feel if this was happening in your corp?

You've made your case, now be honourable and leave, join the baddies (from my side) and try and beat Xelas. I've been fighting D2 et al for the past 2 months and I think they, as an honoured foe, will tell you to take a running jump! Spys yep, that has some place, but this is just a poor show!

and post with your MAIN have the guts to go with your glory!

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs

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Come on...

No one forces you to stay in an alliance, if you wish to leave "theres the door". If you feel Xelas or any other Alliance is not good enough for you, then say it in public, make your case and then leave! Join the many people in Fountain against BoB, but this just stinks of back stabbing and bitterness.

Your high up in a corp? how you feel if this was happening in your corp?

You've made your case, now be honourable and leave, join the baddies (from my side) and try and beat Xelas. I've been fighting D2 et al for the past 2 months and I think they, as an honoured foe, will tell you to take a running jump! Spys yep, that has some place, but this is just a poor show!

and post with your MAIN have the guts to go with your glory!

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We do this because we want our corps to leave!, if that means Xelas disbanding then so be it. Rather that then the slow death that is taking place right now.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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We do this because we want our corps to leave!, if that means Xelas disbanding then so be it. Rather that then the slow death that is taking place right now.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edit: Honor is of no concern to us, we hide behind alts to protect the investment of our characters as we do not want this to tied to them. We do it for the single purpose of disbanding Xelas so the member corps will go their own ways.

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Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edit: Honor is of no concern to us, we hide behind alts to protect the investment of our characters as we do not want this to tied to them. We do it for the single purpose of disbanding Xelas so the member corps will go their own ways.

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well somebody needs to be more subtle... if you are in a pet alliance and you want to pass info that will help the coalition, or want to help in other way to bring about justice and rightious wrath upon the unclean please contact our glorious diplomats. Do not worry and do not listen to other pets it is not "betrayal" if you do it in favor of justice

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Originally by: Krychton

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Looks like a coalition alt trying to do its work with a little divide and conquer. Desparate times call for desparate messaures I suppose. Don't buy into this garbage.

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Originally by: John Cerberux

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Edited by: John Cerberux on 19/03/2007 15:32:42
If you want to leave Xelas then just leave. Killing people's hard work from the inside by betraying them sucks. I have no love for Xelas since they are a BoB pet but I would never wish this on them. Offlining starbases is a tactic that cheaters like goons use... no honor comes from it.

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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar

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Originally by: Krychton

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Looks like a coalition alt trying to do its work with a little divide and conquer. Desparate times call for desparate messaures I suppose. Don't buy into this garbage.

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Nothing to do with us.
And tbh it's in pretty poor taste. This sort of inhouse fighting doesn't need to be on the forums.

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Quote:

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2007.03.14 12:18
DeckardIRL has been appointed as Fleet Admiral.

Blue Flame
CIC of Xelas

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Originally by: Borg017

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Note to Xelas (as well as RISE): Go ahead and defect now while you can still save your assets.

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Originally by: Virene Mene

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Originally by: John Cerberux

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Edited by: John Cerberux on 19/03/2007 15:32:42
If you want to leave Xelas then just leave. Killing people's hard work from the inside by betraying them sucks. I have no love for Xelas since they are a BoB pet but I would never wish this on them. Offlining starbases is a tactic that cheaters like goons use... no honor comes from it.

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fixed for ya

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Originally by: Proxay

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I don't see negativity on XS Forums, nor our chit-chat channel, maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but the people to contact with problems are typically CEOs, then the XO's, and finally after exhausting all measures, you contact the CiC; Blue Flame, and if that fails, quit, be bitter and join a different alliance. <- Normal progression of 'Rage Quitting'.

This is Forum Whoring DeluxÖ

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Pretty dirty tbh, Xelas deserve better. They still need to burn in hell with the rest of the BoB forces of course but do it the traditional way.

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Originally by: Uhmari

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The coalition is dead, They are defeated, The war is over, Stop trying to attack bob because they are strong, stop challanging the strong, because they have earned their right, You Are the weak, Learn your role, and shut it.

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Originally by: Xeliya

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Edited by: Xeliya on 19/03/2007 15:54:36
No offense but it's not like the coalition would already have a spy and any major info is not given out till it would be too late. If you are for real stop being a coward and jump across to the other side.

XS won't fold they have been though some very ****ty times so I don't know why you are trying. They may lose/gain members but Blue Flame has held the alliance together; when they lost their home in the North, when STK came and took PNQY and when major PVP entities such as Dark or SoD have left.

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Originally by: Splagada

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SEED ME DADDY

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Originally by: Silvestri

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Originally by: Borg017

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Note to Xelas (as well as RISE): Go ahead and defect now while you can still save your assets.

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RISE to huh? after having some good shoosting with RISE last night I didn't get the hint RISE was defecting....good to see Outbreak's point of view....

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Originally by: Nicocat

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Now, AXE, those are some mean buggers. =P

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 19/03/2007 14:58:50
Many of you may have already read my Xelas critique letter. I hoped this would create some kind of effort within the alliance to change itself. Instead of this, the PVP Leader of the alliance left and a new Fleet admiral appointed who has made the usual nonsense promises and yet again a foriegn entity defends pnqy.

So.. After almost a year of being in Xelas i have decided enough is enough. I am convinced that the problem with Xelas is something that is too deep and the only way to fix this is for the alliance to start fresh. If this means the alliances destruction then so be it. From this day forth i and several people in my corperation and a second are aligning ourselves with the forces opposing Xelas in Fountain. However, we will not be leaving Xelas. Instead we will be offering the enemy as much inteligence and information as they require.
I have a senior position within a member corp and almost all of us have full starbase configuration abilities.

If you are opposing Xelas in Fountain and would like to make use of our information then please contact me in game. We shall be setting up an almost 24 hour channel with which information will be placed on Xelas planned operations, inteligence and events.

If you are in Xelas and wish to aid our plan then feel free to contact us.


Edit: Honor is of no concern to us, we hide behind alts to protect the investment of our characters as we do not want this to tied to them. We do it for the single purpose of disbanding Xelas so the member corps will go their own ways.

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Originally by: thoth foc

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When your brave enuff to post with your main, then someone might listen to you..

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: thoth foc

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When your brave enuff to post with your main, then someone might listen to you..

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With over 2500 reads and numerous mails from people within xelas wanting to help and enemies wishing to use our info id say our message has gotten across fine

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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I take offense to this, all Axe wants to do is lay in the sun, have hot vampire chicks serve us beer and meet our every need. We would never think of doing somthing mean.

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Originally by: Sun Win

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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I take offense to this, all Axe wants to do is lay in the sun, have hot vampire chicks serve us beer and meet our every need. We would never think of doing somthing mean.

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I think I've identified a problem with your plan...

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Originally by: Sun Win

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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I take offense to this, all Axe wants to do is lay in the sun, have hot vampire chicks serve us beer and meet our every need. We would never think of doing somthing mean.

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I think I've identified a problem with your plan...

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Remember what the cursed pirates did in Pirates of the Carribean? They use umbrellas, of course!

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: thoth foc

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When your brave enuff to post with your main, then someone might listen to you..

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With over 2500 reads and numerous mails from people within xelas wanting to help and enemies wishing to use our info id say our message has gotten across fine

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ppl read teh forums through boredom, even replies dont actually mean alot of interest, particularly on a slow news day ..

and ofc we'll have to take your word that you receive gazillions of supporting mails.. along with the notion your main is actually in teh alliance your trying to create internal divisions in.. personally i'd go for your a goon.. mostly cuz i think it's most up their sense of humour..

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: thoth foc

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When your brave enuff to post with your main, then someone might listen to you..

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With over 2500 reads and numerous mails from people within xelas wanting to help and enemies wishing to use our info id say our message has gotten across fine

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ppl read teh forums through boredom, even replies dont actually mean alot of interest, particularly on a slow news day ..

and ofc we'll have to take your word that you receive gazillions of supporting mails.. along with the notion your main is actually in teh alliance your trying to create internal divisions in.. personally i'd go for your a goon.. mostly cuz i think it's most up their sense of humour..

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well xelas know we are as weve convo'd since this and xelas enemies know we are because the information we give them is correct. Wheras as you are neither xelas or a corp fighting xelas in fountain your replies are of nonconsequence

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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What a crap way to try to bring down an alliance

You could at least just switch sides properly and shoot at them the right way

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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What a crap way to try to bring down an alliance

You could at least just switch sides properly and shoot at them the right way

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Try reading a post before you reply. The entire reason for us having to do this is because we want to keep our corperations and minimize the permanent effect on our characters. We have no interest in honor, we just want our corps out of Xelas.

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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What a crap way to try to bring down an alliance

You could at least just switch sides properly and shoot at them the right way

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Try reading a post before you reply. The entire reason for us having to do this is because we want to keep our corperations and minimize the permanent effect on our characters. We have no interest in honor, we just want our corps out of Xelas.

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So why does your corp just not leave if your so high up in the food chain I would think your corp would listen to you.

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Originally by: Nicocat

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Now, AXE, those are some mean buggers. =P

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I take offense to this, all Axe wants to do is lay in the sun, have hot vampire chicks serve us beer and meet our every need. We would never think of doing somthing mean.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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What a crap way to try to bring down an alliance

You could at least just switch sides properly and shoot at them the right way

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Try reading a post before you reply. The entire reason for us having to do this is because we want to keep our corperations and minimize the permanent effect on our characters. We have no interest in honor, we just want our corps out of Xelas.

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So why does your corp just not leave if your so high up in the food chain I would think your corp would listen to you.

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Because our leadership is happy with its POS money making and too lazy to move.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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What a crap way to try to bring down an alliance

You could at least just switch sides properly and shoot at them the right way

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Try reading a post before you reply. The entire reason for us having to do this is because we want to keep our corperations and minimize the permanent effect on our characters. We have no interest in honor, we just want our corps out of Xelas.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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We do this because we want our corps to leave!, if that means Xelas disbanding then so be it. Rather that then the slow death that is taking place right now.

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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What a crap way to try to bring down an alliance

You could at least just switch sides properly and shoot at them the right way

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Try reading a post before you reply. The entire reason for us having to do this is because we want to keep our corperations and minimize the permanent effect on our characters. We have no interest in honor, we just want our corps out of Xelas.

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I read the thread.

Your corps no longer serve your personal interests, nor does xelas. If you're unhappy enough to pull this sort of stunt it may be time for a change of scenery rather than forcing the scenery to change.

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Originally by: Ace Frehley

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Oki oki oki I confess, it is my alt, It is my ebil plan to make xelas implode so I can claim fountain myself and npc and mine whole days.. I swear, I talk the truth, you got me

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Originally by: Ikarushka

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Originally by: Ace Frehley

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Oki oki oki I confess, it is my alt, It is my ebil plan to make xelas implode so I can claim fountain myself and npc and mine whole days.. I swear, I talk the truth, you got me

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is it you Backdoor bandit?

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Try reading a post before you reply. The entire reason for us having to do this is because we want to keep our corperations and minimize the permanent effect on our characters. We have no interest in honor, we just want our corps out of Xelas.

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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BTW if Xelas wants me to stop posting I will, just having fun atm, I dont think, or atleast hope anyone takes this joker to serious.

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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With all due respect that is the biggest load of horse manure I have ever heard.
If you cause your corp to be implicated in spying what kind of a future do you think it will have in eve? Never to be trusted again?

Well then your goal fails miserably as your corp disintegrates out of shame, forever painted as harboring traitors. Is that what you want?

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Originally by: Nicocat

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Now, AXE, those are some mean buggers. =P

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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With all due respect that is the biggest load of horse manure I have ever heard.
If you cause your corp to be implicated in spying what kind of a future do you think it will have in eve? Never to be trusted again?

Well then your goal fails miserably as your corp disintegrates out of shame, forever painted as harboring traitors. Is that what you want?

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again, try reading a post before you reply. we are using alts to distribute the inteligence so that we avoid implications

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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distribute the inteligence

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Originally by: Divorce

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I am not happy the way Faceless Pokemon is running his current corrputness to destroy Xelas. So I in return offer anyone that wants to know his main to send me 50mil Isk and I will eve mail you his main.

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Originally by: Divorce

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I am not happy the way Faceless Pokemon is running his current corrputness to destroy Xelas. So I in return offer anyone that wants to know his main to send me 50mil Isk and I will eve mail you his main.

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Originally by: Divorce

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I am not happy the way Faceless Pokemon is running his current corrputness to destroy Xelas. So I in return offer anyone that wants to know his main to send me 50mil Isk and I will eve mail you his main.

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ROFL... Actually Xelas I may have a chat log where somone in our Defense Channels from Xelas made the exact same comment about me that Faceless made in another thread. ALmost to the word. I will get this to you soon as I get home if I can find it.

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Originally by: Mitch Taylor

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I find your post frustrating. It is interesting to me that the blame falls with the leadership of xelas. Tell me what is a leader without his followers? If you wish to change xelas take a moment with blueflame, he is one of the people in this game who I would credit with honour.

When dark joined xelas we made it very clear we were not happy with the way things were, instead of moaning and forum whoring we went to the leadership and explained our view of the situation and how we felt we could help change it. One month later my corporation were playing a part in leading this old alliance to new glory.

I know nothing of the current situation, but I know my old friend is the same as he always was. Bullet point your concerns, think about possible solutions and present them to him. He always had time for me, I am sure he would do the same for you.

A great friend in business once told me, question, challenge, propose... in that order.

Good luck.

Mitch.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Originally by: Divorce

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I am not happy the way Faceless Pokemon is running his current corrputness to destroy Xelas. So I in return offer anyone that wants to know his main to send me 50mil Isk and I will eve mail you his main.

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ROFL... Actually Xelas I may have a chat log where somone in our Defense Channels from Xelas made the exact same comment about me that Faceless made in another thread. ALmost to the word. I will get this to you soon as I get home if I can find it.

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Right.. and now the paranoi begins.. gl considering that a) i have never spoken in those channels b) theres 6 of us

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Originally by: Borg017

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Originally by: Silvestri

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Originally by: Borg017

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Note to Xelas (as well as RISE): Go ahead and defect now while you can still save your assets.

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RISE to huh? after having some good shoosting with RISE last night I didn't get the hint RISE was defecting....good to see Outbreak's point of view....

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It was a joke hence the smiley face with the sun glasses. You didn't read clearly as I said "Note to Xelas (as well as RISE)"....as in jokingly saying yall should defect. I never said theywill. The rise comment was made cuz I am ex-rise. Lastly, my joke is only meant to be taken very seriously by idiots who think any one person speaks for an entire corp.

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Originally by: Vasili Z

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So basically, you have enough guts to backstab, bad-mouth, and whine about your alliance, but not enough to run your own damn pvp-gangs?

******* coward.

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Originally by: Iva Soreass

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Edited by: Iva Soreass on 19/03/2007 20:21:36
P u ssy

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: thoth foc

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When your brave enuff to post with your main, then someone might listen to you..

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With over 2500 reads and numerous mails from people within xelas wanting to help and enemies wishing to use our info id say our message has gotten across fine

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ppl read teh forums through boredom, even replies dont actually mean alot of interest, particularly on a slow news day ..

and ofc we'll have to take your word that you receive gazillions of supporting mails.. along with the notion your main is actually in teh alliance your trying to create internal divisions in.. personally i'd go for your a goon.. mostly cuz i think it's most up their sense of humour..

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well xelas know we are as weve convo'd since this and xelas enemies know we are because the information we give them is correct. Wheras as you are neither xelas or a corp fighting xelas in fountain your replies are of nonconsequence

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: thoth foc

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When your brave enuff to post with your main, then someone might listen to you..

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With over 2500 reads and numerous mails from people within xelas wanting to help and enemies wishing to use our info id say our message has gotten across fine

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ppl read teh forums through boredom, even replies dont actually mean alot of interest, particularly on a slow news day ..

and ofc we'll have to take your word that you receive gazillions of supporting mails.. along with the notion your main is actually in teh alliance your trying to create internal divisions in.. personally i'd go for your a goon.. mostly cuz i think it's most up their sense of humour..

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well xelas know we are as weve convo'd since this and xelas enemies know we are because the information we give them is correct. Wheras as you are neither xelas or a corp fighting xelas in fountain your replies are of nonconsequence

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Sorry, so your sure i dont have an alt in xelas or any other group fighting in fountain?

which leave us in exactly the same position, which by you own assessment makes this thread of nonconsequence

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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With all due respect that is the biggest load of horse manure I have ever heard.
If you cause your corp to be implicated in spying what kind of a future do you think it will have in eve? Never to be trusted again?

Well then your goal fails miserably as your corp disintegrates out of shame, forever painted as harboring traitors. Is that what you want?

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again, try reading a post before you reply. we are using alts to distribute the inteligence so that we avoid implications

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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Edited by: Noluck Ned on 19/03/2007 21:19:17

Here is a wake up call alt boy, as soon as the first POS is offlined, as soon as the first suspicions and rumours begin to do the rounds then every single corp in your alliance becomes suspect and tarred with the same brush.
Your brilliant plan is ensuring that every member corp in there now is already being looked at by those who decide standings and by corp recruiters such as myself who will now rather err on the side of caution when considering candidates from your alliance for membership. Thats the way it works.

If THAT was your intention when you began this ridiculous tomfoolery then I am sorry to say that your plan has worked like a charm.

All I hear from you is a crybaby who couldent have his own way, a spoilt brat who believes that the world exists solely to enact his every personal whim. If you cared even one iota for your corp rather than yourself you would stand by the choices that your directors and CEO's have made through thick or thin. If you cannot reconcile yourself with what your corp has decided then quitting is a mere 24 hours away.

edited to add: I have always respected Xelas for standing where many others would surely have fallen by the wayside. You must give credit where credit is due, call them what you like they have absorbed endless crap from all over and they are still there.

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Originally by: Proxay

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Edited by: Proxay on 19/03/2007 15:34:15
Edited by: Proxay on 19/03/2007 15:23:52

Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs

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Come on...

No one forces you to stay in an alliance, if you wish to leave "theres the door". If you feel Xelas or any other Alliance is not good enough for you, then say it in public, make your case and then leave! Join the many people in Fountain against BoB, but this just stinks of back stabbing and bitterness.

Your high up in a corp? how you feel if this was happening in your corp?

You've made your case, now be honourable and leave, join the baddies (from my side) and try and beat Xelas. I've been fighting D2 et al for the past 2 months and I think they, as an honoured foe, will tell you to take a running jump! Spys yep, that has some place, but this is just a poor show!

and post with your MAIN have the guts to go with your glory!

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We do this because we want our corps to leave!, if that means Xelas disbanding then so be it. Rather that then the slow death that is taking place right now.

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Aparantly we've been in slow death mode for the last year and a half. If you are for real and tell the coalition my every move, maybe i wont say what i'm doing. *stealthmode*

WTS> T2 Electron Clue Cannon

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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I wouldn't mind seeing Xelas die but not like this. Leave the alliance and try killing them the normal way instead, it's more fun for both sides then.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 19/03/2007 14:58:50
Many of you may have already read my Xelas critique letter. I hoped this would create some kind of effort within the alliance to change itself. Instead of this, the PVP Leader of the alliance left and a new Fleet admiral appointed who has made the usual nonsense promises and yet again a foriegn entity defends pnqy.

So.. After almost a year of being in Xelas i have decided enough is enough. I am convinced that the problem with Xelas is something that is too deep and the only way to fix this is for the alliance to start fresh. If this means the alliances destruction then so be it. From this day forth i and several people in my corperation and a second are aligning ourselves with the forces opposing Xelas in Fountain. However, we will not be leaving Xelas. Instead we will be offering the enemy as much inteligence and information as they require.
I have a senior position within a member corp and almost all of us have full starbase configuration abilities.

If you are opposing Xelas in Fountain and would like to make use of our information then please contact me in game. We shall be setting up an almost 24 hour channel with which information will be placed on Xelas planned operations, inteligence and events.

If you are in Xelas and wish to aid our plan then feel free to contact us.


Edit: Honor is of no concern to us, we hide behind alts to protect the investment of our characters as we do not want this to tied to them. We do it for the single purpose of disbanding Xelas so the member corps will go their own ways.

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Originally by: Garia666

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Edited by: Garia666 on 19/03/2007 14:56:55

gl destroying your alliance.

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Originally by: Mike Wizouski

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But Pehova, didn't you read? He's not interested in doing any work by jumping in a ship to fight. He wants to sit in a station and play the text based game while everyone else joins gangs to fight their enemies. I mean, he complains about XS not forming PVP groups, but doesn't make an effort to resolve that himself. He wants everything done for him.

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Originally by: Prince Asmodai

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 19/03/2007 14:58:50
Many of you may have already read my Xelas critique letter. I hoped this would create some kind of effort within the alliance to change itself. Instead of this, the PVP Leader of the alliance left and a new Fleet admiral appointed who has made the usual nonsense promises and yet again a foriegn entity defends pnqy.

So.. After almost a year of being in Xelas i have decided enough is enough. I am convinced that the problem with Xelas is something that is too deep and the only way to fix this is for the alliance to start fresh. If this means the alliances destruction then so be it. From this day forth i and several people in my corperation and a second are aligning ourselves with the forces opposing Xelas in Fountain. However, we will not be leaving Xelas. Instead we will be offering the enemy as much inteligence and information as they require.
I have a senior position within a member corp and almost all of us have full starbase configuration abilities.

If you are opposing Xelas in Fountain and would like to make use of our information then please contact me in game. We shall be setting up an almost 24 hour channel with which information will be placed on Xelas planned operations, inteligence and events.

If you are in Xelas and wish to aid our plan then feel free to contact us.


Edit: Honor is of no concern to us, we hide behind alts to protect the investment of our characters as we do not want this to tied to them. We do it for the single purpose of disbanding Xelas so the member corps will go their own ways.

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So why not have the guts to just leave the Alliance if they are not doing what you need or like. Its just people hoping to make a few Billion by trying to turn off a few POS's so another guy can blow stuff up. I think its funny that they are like after a year..."oh they are mean and not a good alliance so in turn I will help you kill them so I can get rich". or how about "I really could have left a few months ago but figured I could stay and get rich!" Ugh I hate people like this. I guess its gonna come down to if someone really does pay em to do sh**.

Either way.. Just L A M E !!!!

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edit: Honor is of no concern to us, we hide behind alts to protect the investment of our characters as we do not want this to tied to them. We do it for the single purpose of disbanding Xelas so the member corps will go their own ways.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Mike Wizouski

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But Pehova, didn't you read? He's not interested in doing any work by jumping in a ship to fight. He wants to sit in a station and play the text based game while everyone else joins gangs to fight their enemies. I mean, he complains about XS not forming PVP groups, but doesn't make an effort to resolve that himself. He wants everything done for him.

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a) Yes we will be jumping into ships. But only to pass along gang information.

b) Read the OP. We tried for months to fix things. Pointless without x's.

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Originally by: Empyre

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edit: Honor is of no concern to us, we hide behind alts to protect the investment of our characters as we do not want this to tied to them. We do it for the single purpose of disbanding Xelas so the member corps will go their own ways.

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i could have sworn i read somewhere a while ago that hiding behind alts to avoid the consequences of actions by another character was an exploitable offense? kind of like wiping out a corps' hangars with an alt, passing it to another character then deleting the thief..

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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With all due respect that is the biggest load of horse manure I have ever heard.
If you cause your corp to be implicated in spying what kind of a future do you think it will have in eve? Never to be trusted again?

Well then your goal fails miserably as your corp disintegrates out of shame, forever painted as harboring traitors. Is that what you want?

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again, try reading a post before you reply. we are using alts to distribute the inteligence so that we avoid implications

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Have you ever ran a corp, alliance, fleet, gank squad, gate camp, or done anything of any actual help, or have you always hid in teh backround crying?

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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b) Read the OP. We tried for months to fix things. Pointless without x's.

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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan

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XS needs to post more TBH.

Entertain me.

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Originally by: RaptorX

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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With all due respect that is the biggest load of horse manure I have ever heard.
If you cause your corp to be implicated in spying what kind of a future do you think it will have in eve? Never to be trusted again?

Well then your goal fails miserably as your corp disintegrates out of shame, forever painted as harboring traitors. Is that what you want?

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again, try reading a post before you reply. we are using alts to distribute the inteligence so that we avoid implications

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Have you ever ran a corp, alliance, fleet, gank squad, gate camp, or done anything of any actual help, or have you always hid in teh backround crying?

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I think they were crying when -A- burned your past empire to the ground.

RaptorX

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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No offense, but -A- won that war I think 4 months ago. Axe has moved on and improved since then, and we continue to grow and move on. I have said before, -A- did a better job than Axe did, no need to rub it in, we hear it enough from D2 in local lately. Not many -A- really say anything bad about Axe from the fights and long war we had either that I can recall, just as I think most of Axe respects -A- for what they acomplished.

Edited for minor spelling errors that even i found.

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Originally by: The Beatnuts

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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No offense, but -A- won that war I think 4 months ago. Axe has moved on and improved since then, and we continue to grow and move on. I have said before, -A- did a better job than Axe did, no need to rub it in, we hear it enough from D2 in local lately. Not many -A- really say anything bad about Axe from the fights and long war we had either that I can recall, just as I think most of Axe respects -A- for what they acomplished.

Edited for minor spelling errors that even i found.

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Was a pretty stupid comment by raptorX.

let it be :)

I still appreciate your posting DG.

/omee

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 19/03/2007 14:58:50
BLAH BLAH BLAH

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Originally by: Ductoris

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At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.

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Originally by: Rikkard Strofeldt

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If there is enough of you, try a coup d'etat. Otherwise, just leave XS and join the fight in another alliance.

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Originally by: Divorce

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*snip*

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ROFL... Actually Xelas I may have a chat log where somone in our Defense Channels from Xelas made the exact same comment about me that Faceless made in another thread. ALmost to the word. I will get this to you soon as I get home if I can find it.

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Originally by: Graalum

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Thats a caldari juggernaut torpedo fired by an ibis.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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Edited by: Noluck Ned on 19/03/2007 21:19:17

Here is a wake up call alt boy, as soon as the first POS is offlined, as soon as the first suspicions and rumours begin to do the rounds then every single corp in your alliance becomes suspect and tarred with the same brush.
Your brilliant plan is ensuring that every member corp in there now is already being looked at by those who decide standings and by corp recruiters such as myself who will now rather err on the side of caution when considering candidates from your alliance for membership. Thats the way it works.

If THAT was your intention when you began this ridiculous tomfoolery then I am sorry to say that your plan has worked like a charm.

All I hear from you is a crybaby who couldent have his own way, a spoilt brat who believes that the world exists solely to enact his every personal whim. If you cared even one iota for your corp rather than yourself you would stand by the choices that your directors and CEO's have made through thick or thin. If you cannot reconcile yourself with what your corp has decided then quitting is a mere 24 hours away.

edited to add: I have always respected Xelas for standing where many others would surely have fallen by the wayside. You must give credit where credit is due, call them what you like they have absorbed endless crap from all over and they are still there.

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We are not crying about it. We gave them a warning to do something about it and they choose to roll out the same promises they have been doing for the last 6 months. So this is what we do.

Xelas are still there yes but if you were a member you would understand that it is useless. The alliance is incapable of defending its own space and would have been gone long ago had it not been for BOB's capital fleet.

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Originally by: arjun

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maybe we dont want to play eve like bob does it. i dont want to feel dirty.

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Originally by: s4mp3r0r

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"Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".

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Originally by: Rikkard Strofeldt

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If there is enough of you, try a coup d'etat. Otherwise, just leave XS and join the fight in another alliance.

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Originally by: s4mp3r0r

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"Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 19/03/2007 14:58:50
Many of you may have already read my Xelas critique letter. I hoped this would create some kind of effort within the alliance to change itself. Instead of this, the PVP Leader of the alliance left and a new Fleet admiral appointed who has made the usual nonsense promises and yet again a foriegn entity defends pnqy.

So.. After almost a year of being in Xelas i have decided enough is enough. I am convinced that the problem with Xelas is something that is too deep and the only way to fix this is for the alliance to start fresh. If this means the alliances destruction then so be it. From this day forth i and several people in my corperation and a second are aligning ourselves with the forces opposing Xelas in Fountain. However, we will not be leaving Xelas. Instead we will be offering the enemy as much inteligence and information as they require.
I have a senior position within a member corp and almost all of us have full starbase configuration abilities.

If you are opposing Xelas in Fountain and would like to make use of our information then please contact me in game. We shall be setting up an almost 24 hour channel with which information will be placed on Xelas planned operations, inteligence and events.

If you are in Xelas and wish to aid our plan then feel free to contact us.


Edit: Honor is of no concern to us, we hide behind alts to protect the investment of our characters as we do not want this to tied to them. We do it for the single purpose of disbanding Xelas so the member corps will go their own ways.

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Originally by: Aero089

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Pathetic, sad little man. You feel it is upon yourself to change your alliance.

Well have a GOOD look, worm, if people really wanted it to change they'd have supported you in any applications for higher command roles or in a worst case scenario: mutiny.

You're a parasite, I hope nobody would hire you for any corporation after pulling a dishonorable act like this.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 20/03/2007 13:03:59

Originally by: Aero089

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Pathetic, sad little man. You feel it is upon yourself to change your alliance.

Well have a GOOD look, worm, if people really wanted it to change they'd have supported you in any applications for higher command roles or in a worst case scenario: mutiny.

You're a parasite, I hope nobody would hire you for any corporation after pulling a dishonorable act like this.

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That is the reason nobody will ever know our Xelas chars. So dont worry. They will not be effected by this

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Originally by: Susan Acid

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Originally by: arjun

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maybe we dont want to play eve like bob does it. i dont want to feel dirty.

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Unfortunately,if BoB ever gets an opportunity like this they will take it without hesitation.Then where will your morals and sense of fair play get you?

Take the deal.Offline the POS's and show Xelas how the people they are alligned with(BOB)play the game.It would be fitting imo.

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: Susan Acid

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Originally by: arjun

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maybe we dont want to play eve like bob does it. i dont want to feel dirty.

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Unfortunately,if BoB ever gets an opportunity like this they will take it without hesitation.Then where will your morals and sense of fair play get you?

Take the deal.Offline the POS's and show Xelas how the people they are alligned with(BOB)play the game.It would be fitting imo.

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Pos's were mentioned by someone else, not faceless pokemon, and lets not get into a bob v whoever moral war.

I'm suprised the mods havn't banned this char for admitting it being an alt openly.

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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan

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"Middle Finger Technology"

I wonder who else from the old Immensea crew is over there.

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: Susan Acid

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Originally by: arjun

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maybe we dont want to play eve like bob does it. i dont want to feel dirty.

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Unfortunately,if BoB ever gets an opportunity like this they will take it without hesitation.Then where will your morals and sense of fair play get you?

Take the deal.Offline the POS's and show Xelas how the people they are alligned with(BOB)play the game.It would be fitting imo.

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Pos's were mentioned by someone else, not faceless pokemon, and lets not get into a bob v whoever moral war.

I'm suprised the mods havn't banned this char for admitting it being an alt openly.

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We are not on the side of the coalition. We only wish to help enemies of Xelas destroy them. It does not matter who that enemy is. Our goals go no further than this.

Our group splintered into two parts yesterday. One side choosing to do actions like you mentioned for isk. The other preferring to only do actions that strategically effect Xelas and not just the individuals. We are the side that keep to only strategic actions and have already told Xelas this so actions that happen like that should not be associated with us.

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Originally by: Swirler

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Edited by: Swirler on 20/03/2007 13:53:09
Xelas is actually kicking ass on the killboards in their space.
D2 would like nothing more than to remove Xelas as one of the biggest stumbling blocks D2 has to gaining any ground in Fountain; for 2 months D2 has been at it, and accomplished nothing, while Xelas and friends make life hell for D2.

So this posting alt is just a word-spy-puppy, trying to create fear from the outside. Because the enemies of BoB can not penetrate Xelas, they have to use the public bathroom wall to scribble hate mail on.

This is pretty funny stuff to see, Goonflies will do anything for a good laugh, this is one of them. I think goonflies have been sniffing too much of their moon mining by-product...Nitrous Oxide (laughing gas), now they're addicted.

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Originally by: Aero089

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DO NOT TELL THEM WHERE WE HAVE OUR SIKRIT MINING OPS!

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Originally by: Swirler

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Edited by: Swirler on 20/03/2007 13:53:09
Xelas is actually kicking ass on the killboards in their space.
D2 would like nothing more than to remove Xelas as one of the biggest stumbling blocks D2 has to gaining any ground in Fountain; for 2 months D2 has been at it, and accomplished nothing, while Xelas and friends make life hell for D2.

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: Susan Acid

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Originally by: arjun

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maybe we dont want to play eve like bob does it. i dont want to feel dirty.

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Unfortunately,if BoB ever gets an opportunity like this they will take it without hesitation.Then where will your morals and sense of fair play get you?

Take the deal.Offline the POS's and show Xelas how the people they are alligned with(BOB)play the game.It would be fitting imo.

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Pos's were mentioned by someone else, not faceless pokemon, and lets not get into a bob v whoever moral war.

I'm suprised the mods havn't banned this char for admitting it being an alt openly.

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We are not on the side of the coalition. We only wish to help enemies of Xelas destroy them. It does not matter who that enemy is. Our goals go no further than this.

Our group splintered into two parts yesterday. One side choosing to do actions like you mentioned for isk. The other preferring to only do actions that strategically effect Xelas and not just the individuals. We are the side that keep to only strategic actions and have already told Xelas this so actions that happen like that should not be associated with us.

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Q) Who is Xelas? (Think hard before you answer this).

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Originally by: Reto

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it's a trap !

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Originally by: Swirler

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Xelas is actually kicking ass on the killboards in their space.

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Originally by: Hoshi Takasu

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Originally by: Swirler

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Xelas is actually kicking ass on the killboards in their space.

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Aftermath, Bob, Axe, everyone else can be accused of kicking ass. I would be suprised if more then 50 of the nearly 1000 members Xelas has actually PVPs, the rest just NPC's out of POSes

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Originally by: Hoshi Takasu

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Originally by: Swirler

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Xelas is actually kicking ass on the killboards in their space.

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Aftermath, Bob, Axe, everyone else can be accused of kicking ass. I would be suprised if more then 50 of the nearly 1000 members Xelas has actually PVPs, the rest just NPC's out of POSes

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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If you are currently at war with Xelas you might also want to wardec the corperation "BRADNETT". They are a corp used by a Xelas corperation to carry out empire mission running and other isk making

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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If you are currently at war with Xelas you might also want to wardec the corperation "BRADNETT". They are a corp used by a Xelas corperation to carry out empire mission running and other isk making

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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Over my years in EVE I've seen FIX, LV, BoB, D2, AAA, 187, MM, IRON, SE, -V- and recently the BoBs trying to make a name for themselves after the fall of ASCN and all the PVP corps that would come ganking in the south. I've never seen a Xelas. Why bother kill what is already dead.

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Originally by: kashkaisha

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No worrie pokemon, no one ever believe that xelas is anyting else then a carebear alliance defenceless whitout bob support.

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Originally by: Nai Ling

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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan

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"Middle Finger Technology"

I wonder who else from the old Immensea crew is over there.

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Quite a few.

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Originally by: Neveren

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If you are currently Faceless pokemon.. You might want to enjoy your last moments in the corporation and alliance..

You are cought =)

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Originally by: Neveren

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If you are currently Faceless pokemon.. You might want to enjoy your last moments in the corporation and alliance..

You are cought =)

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Originally by: Noluck Ned

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Originally by: Neveren

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If you are currently Faceless pokemon.. You might want to enjoy your last moments in the corporation and alliance..

You are cought =)

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Name and shame?

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Originally by: Swirler

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Edited by: Swirler on 20/03/2007 13:53:09
Xelas is actually kicking ass on the killboards in their space.

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Originally by: Swirler

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Edited by: Swirler on 20/03/2007 13:53:09
Xelas is actually kicking ass on the killboards in their space.
D2 would like nothing more than to remove Xelas as one of the biggest stumbling blocks D2 has to gaining any ground in Fountain; for 2 months D2 has been at it, and accomplished nothing, while Xelas and friends make life hell for D2.

So this posting alt is just a word-spy-puppy, trying to create fear from the outside. Because the enemies of BoB can not penetrate Xelas, they have to use the public bathroom wall to scribble hate mail on.

This is pretty funny stuff to see, Goonflies will do anything for a good laugh, this is one of them. I think goonflies have been sniffing too much of their moon mining by-product...Nitrous Oxide (laughing gas), now they're addicted.

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This is like the biggest pile of elephant crap recorded in human history and presented to the public.

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Xelas, as always, hides in PNQY and Xelas only strikes at small gangs, with small ships.

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The only time were Xelas left PNQY was... to rat, and hmmm, to rat some more.

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Other than that only people that actually fight, are AXE, and very randomly, but they do something diferent for a change.

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Other than that, Xelas are their former selves, carebearing under the protection of others.

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I've found more friendlys in the supposed Xelas "controled space" than anywere else around fountain, and you know why?

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Because Xelas is a sucky alliance in terms of defending space.

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Originally by: DeckardIRL

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I ask that this thread is allowed to die and people stop posting to it or is locked it has run its course.

I also ask that the Mods change the title of this thread as it is misleading. The alt posting doesn't speak for Xelas and a thread title like that makes it seem that an alliance announcement is being made.

Deck

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Originally by: Faceless Pokemon

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Originally by: DeckardIRL

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I ask that this thread is allowed to die and people stop posting to it or is locked it has run its course.

I also ask that the Mods change the title of this thread as it is misleading. The alt posting doesn't speak for Xelas and a thread title like that makes it seem that an alliance announcement is being made.

Deck

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The thread is active because most people are discussing our methods. This is all a part of eve. Just because you dont like what you are seeing does not mean you can request the thread be closed.

You being elected as Fleet admiral and saying the same things as your predecessors have was the last straw. It is the same "we are in the process of restructuring" nonsense that we have been hearing for the last 7 months.

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Originally by: Proxay

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Edited by: Proxay on 21/03/2007 11:41:12
Some babbling.

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Originally by: Urghana Frye

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You obviously are taking this game way too seriously. I would recommend that you set the longest training skill you can and take an extended break from the game. A nice hike or bike ride outdoors away from EVE might do you good, and might help you to regain some perspective on why you are playing this game in the first place.

If you do not agree with the path that your corporation has chosen and you are not able to convince the people in charge that you would all be better off out of the Alliance, instead of ruining the game for everyone else who is happy, you should just leave and find a way to enjoy the game elsewhere. IMO, your actions are childish and selfish, and whether you believe it or not, will reflect badly not only on you, but on your corporation and friends as well when (not if....when) the truth finally comes out.

I presume that while you have been in your corporation that you have established relationships with your corpmates and that you consider them friends. How will they feel about you when they find out that you are the one that betrayed them because you disagreed with the way they were enjoying the game? Is the money they are paying every month to play this game any less valuable than yours? Do you honestly think that they will still want you to be in their corp after this? I know I wouldn't want to play with someone I couldn't trust and who is willing to do anything to get his own selfish way regardless of the cost (and I don't just mean isk!).

If you have any consideration at all for the friends you have made in your corporation, you would do well to leave now and to abandon this course of action to spare them the embarassment your actions will cause for them. TBH, I feel sad for you that you can't simply enjoy the game with your friends, or at least show some measure of respect and honor by wishing them all well and moving on.

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Originally by: Dionisius

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In fountain all you can, hardly control, is pnq and g95, and even there raiding those systems is easy.

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Originally by: Dionisius

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I is a real core ghetto thug fo shoz. Dis one time we popped dis dictor right? I'm like waaa ***** you guys sucks. You foolies fo sho couldn't tackle my hurricane. You all straight bustas fo real

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Originally by: Murukan

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Originally by: Dionisius

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I is a real core ghetto thug fo shoz. Dis one time we popped dis dictor right? I'm like waaa ***** you guys sucks. You foolies fo sho couldn't tackle my hurricane. You all straight bustas fo real

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I found this version of your post more entertaining.

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Originally by: Virene Mene

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Originally by: John Cerberux

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Edited by: John Cerberux on 19/03/2007 15:32:42
If you want to leave Xelas then just leave. Killing people's hard work from the inside by betraying them sucks. I have no love for Xelas since they are a BoB pet but I would never wish this on them. Offlining starbases is a tactic that cheaters like goons use... no honor comes from it.

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fixed for ya

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Originally by: Murukan

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Originally by: Dionisius

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I is a real core ghetto thug fo shoz. Dis one time we popped dis dictor right? I'm like waaa ***** you guys sucks. You foolies fo sho couldn't tackle my hurricane. You all straight bustas fo real

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I found this version of your post more entertaining.

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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Originally by: Hoshi Takasu

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Originally by: Swirler

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Xelas is actually kicking ass on the killboards in their space.

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Aftermath, Bob, Axe, everyone else can be accused of kicking ass. I would be suprised if more then 50 of the nearly 1000 members Xelas has actually PVPs, the rest just NPC's out of POSes

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A) Cant believe this thread is still going. Xelas take away POS roles except for those that need it 100%. Watch your hanger access list. Thats all you can really do TBH. But dont close up or leave the alliance because some nobody claims they know stuff and can do stuff.

B) How many times do I have to say it, AXE dosnt kick anyones ass. We are all lovable guys that just want to have Hot Chicks serve us beer all day in the Sun, and then hot vampire chicks serve us beer in the moon light.

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: kashkaisha

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No worrie pokemon, no one ever believe that xelas is anyting else then a carebear alliance defenceless whitout bob support.

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And you're posting here because?

This contributes towards the thread how?

Cut the spam out please, if you feel the need to say xelas suck, do so in your alliance/corp chat etc.

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: kashkaisha

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No worrie pokemon, no one ever believe that xelas is anyting else then a carebear alliance defenceless whitout bob support.

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And you're posting here because?

This contributes towards the thread how?

Cut the spam out please, if you feel the need to say xelas suck, do so in your alliance/corp chat etc.

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Originally by: El'Presedante

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: kashkaisha

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No worrie pokemon, no one ever believe that xelas is anyting else then a carebear alliance defenceless whitout bob support.

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And you're posting here because?

This contributes towards the thread how?

Cut the spam out please, if you feel the need to say xelas suck, do so in your alliance/corp chat etc.

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He's posting here, because he has in the past shot at the protectors of your alliance.
He points out a fact, that you later point out. UNLESS thiere is a competant commander from another alliance such as BOB, AXE, or other that xelas by and large are busy mining/hiding/npcing, and or plain ol terrified of thier own shadows. of course thier are a few exceptions but by and large, you and your alliance are not what we would say a PvP orginization. wich really if you would just accept it and let it go people could no longer get your goats so to speak. perhaps what you've failed to see, although been quick to pronounce on others. You do not deserve the space your alliance rents. you cannot control it. you cannot defend it. and when the time comes, you will be run under the bus as the "big dawgs" lets call them, start playing ping pong in fountain. it really does not take a rocket scientest, or a spy to see that sooner or later the conflict in the south will rage in and around BoB assets in places like fountain, delve, perod basis etc...
as I understand it Co-Allition forces already in the Lower aridia area, and upper Fountain some good fights have even been reported.

back to being a lurker.

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Originally by: FireFox McProwler

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Dont forget about the lawn couchs and the farm animals roaming about. We got to keep up with our redneck ways.

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Originally by: Mike Wizouski

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Originally by: El'Presedante

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: kashkaisha

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No worrie pokemon, no one ever believe that xelas is anyting else then a carebear alliance defenceless whitout bob support.

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And you're posting here because?

This contributes towards the thread how?

Cut the spam out please, if you feel the need to say xelas suck, do so in your alliance/corp chat etc.

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He's posting here, because he has in the past shot at the protectors of your alliance.
He points out a fact, that you later point out. UNLESS thiere is a competant commander from another alliance such as BOB, AXE, or other that xelas by and large are busy mining/hiding/npcing, and or plain ol terrified of thier own shadows. of course thier are a few exceptions but by and large, you and your alliance are not what we would say a PvP orginization. wich really if you would just accept it and let it go people could no longer get your goats so to speak. perhaps what you've failed to see, although been quick to pronounce on others. You do not deserve the space your alliance rents. you cannot control it. you cannot defend it. and when the time comes, you will be run under the bus as the "big dawgs" lets call them, start playing ping pong in fountain. it really does not take a rocket scientest, or a spy to see that sooner or later the conflict in the south will rage in and around BoB assets in places like fountain, delve, perod basis etc...
as I understand it Co-Allition forces already in the Lower aridia area, and upper Fountain some good fights have even been reported.

back to being a lurker.

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If you're truely a lurker, you would have read 50 bazillion times that Xelas does not rent Fountain from BoB. Let me go do some EVE Searches, and post the many posts... bbl

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Originally by: El'Presedante

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Originally by: Mike Wizouski

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Originally by: El'Presedante

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: kashkaisha

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No worrie pokemon, no one ever believe that xelas is anyting else then a carebear alliance defenceless whitout bob support.

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And you're posting here because?

This contributes towards the thread how?

Cut the spam out please, if you feel the need to say xelas suck, do so in your alliance/corp chat etc.

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He's posting here, because he has in the past shot at the protectors of your alliance.
He points out a fact, that you later point out. UNLESS thiere is a competant commander from another alliance such as BOB, AXE, or other that xelas by and large are busy mining/hiding/npcing, and or plain ol terrified of thier own shadows. of course thier are a few exceptions but by and large, you and your alliance are not what we would say a PvP orginization. wich really if you would just accept it and let it go people could no longer get your goats so to speak. perhaps what you've failed to see, although been quick to pronounce on others. You do not deserve the space your alliance rents. you cannot control it. you cannot defend it. and when the time comes, you will be run under the bus as the "big dawgs" lets call them, start playing ping pong in fountain. it really does not take a rocket scientest, or a spy to see that sooner or later the conflict in the south will rage in and around BoB assets in places like fountain, delve, perod basis etc...
as I understand it Co-Allition forces already in the Lower aridia area, and upper Fountain some good fights have even been reported.

back to being a lurker.

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If you're truely a lurker, you would have read 50 bazillion times that Xelas does not rent Fountain from BoB. Let me go do some EVE Searches, and post the many posts... bbl

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if by Not renting you mean paying great tribute to BoB then I guess your right. lets see, therer not allowed to do the 10/10's and they send a few freighters of minerals south a week to be allowed to stay in Fountain, nope I guess it aint rent, it is indeed a tribute.

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Originally by: El'Presedante

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if by Not renting you mean paying great tribute to BoB then I guess your right. lets see, therer not allowed to do the 10/10's and they send a few freighters of minerals south a week to be allowed to stay in Fountain, nope I guess it aint rent, it is indeed a tribute.

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Originally by: El'Presedante

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Originally by: Mike Wizouski

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Originally by: El'Presedante

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Originally by: Proxay

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Originally by: kashkaisha

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No worrie pokemon, no one ever believe that xelas is anyting else then a carebear alliance defenceless whitout bob support.

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And you're posting here because?

This contributes towards the thread how?

Cut the spam out please, if you feel the need to say xelas suck, do so in your alliance/corp chat etc.

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He's posting here, because he has in the past shot at the protectors of your alliance.
He points out a fact, that you later point out. UNLESS thiere is a competant commander from another alliance such as BOB, AXE, or other that xelas by and large are busy mining/hiding/npcing, and or plain ol terrified of thier own shadows. of course thier are a few exceptions but by and large, you and your alliance are not what we would say a PvP orginization. wich really if you would just accept it and let it go people could no longer get your goats so to speak. perhaps what you've failed to see, although been quick to pronounce on others. You do not deserve the space your alliance rents. you cannot control it. you cannot defend it. and when the time comes, you will be run under the bus as the "big dawgs" lets call them, start playing ping pong in fountain. it really does not take a rocket scientest, or a spy to see that sooner or later the conflict in the south will rage in and around BoB assets in places like fountain, delve, perod basis etc...
as I understand it Co-Allition forces already in the Lower aridia area, and upper Fountain some good fights have even been reported.

back to being a lurker.

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If you're truely a lurker, you would have read 50 bazillion times that Xelas does not rent Fountain from BoB. Let me go do some EVE Searches, and post the many posts... bbl

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if by Not renting you mean paying great tribute to BoB then I guess your right. lets see, therer not allowed to do the 10/10's and they send a few freighters of minerals south a week to be allowed to stay in Fountain, nope I guess it aint rent, it is indeed a tribute.

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