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Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.28 10:32:00 - [1] I am not gonna try to go inte details. Just request a future that IMO is so needed. Coarp/Alliance private market You must be able to produce and sell anything to your members. It is way to mutch work to do it manually! Sure 0.0 is easy and with outpost. But low sec and empire? Anyone els? -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Venomous Angel Strife Mercenaries Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.28 15:08:00 - [2] Well a Corp/Alliance Market option would be nice. BUT until then you can set up contracts so that only your corp/Alliance members have access to it.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.29 06:59:00 - [3] yes but it is a pain to set up contracts so anyone can buy ammo, drones etc. if A and B want ammo i need to set up two contracts with the right amount to them insteed of just build xx units and put on market and anyone in corp can get when they need. -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Winter II	Posted - 2007.03.30 06:04:00 - [4] Edited by: Winter II on 30/03/2007 06:01:40 to me it would be awesome to have and as therese said above contracts dont really works when you have 30+ members that want to buy/sell stuff and noone that have access to the hangars are online
Aragonis Heroic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.30 08:55:00 - [5] /signed Would be very useful. ---
Tiger313	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:39:00 - [6] I agree: right now we have to set up contracts for every single thing we want for our corp, costs me a lot of time and 10k isk everytime I do so. I think there could be an internal corp market where you can buy and sell stuff at whatever prices you agree on within the corp, and without having to pay broker fees as it is within the corp anyway. Then after that you can always proceed by putting up a contract to transport your goods to wherever you want to have it delivered so the poor hauling sod can make a few isk too. I think this could reduce having people run off with corp goods as well. Anything between corp members can go on contracts, anything to do with corp should go through market, even if shielded.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:00:00 - [7] bumping to make more ppl se this. i want this now :P -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Spoon Thumb Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:02:00 - [8] Just stick .27 isk on the end of your sell orders is the other way. But yeah, would be nice not to have to risk selling to your enemies Khaldari Research Services BPO Shop KPA Recruiting!
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.04 06:19:00 - [9] well sure that is a way to fix it, but not very good imo. if someone have a lower price than you have it will be that order that is selling, not mine even if they click on my .27 order. so this function is needed to be able to work as a corp/ally outside the deep 0.0 outposts -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Trovax	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:51:00 - [10] This would be an awesome idea because..... a) For industrial corps, you could set mining pay quite easily b) all members could post items they have accumulated but dont need c) A well developped corp that has alot going on, namley the 0.0 alliances/corps, would be able to prevent their items being sold to the enemy. kinda silly if your enemy kills you with your own missiles. A good idea well worth looking into and,if deemed a good tool, worth developing too. I'm in!
Trovax	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:52:00 - [11] Edited by: Trovax on 04/04/2007 15:48:43 Ignore this.
Fraunn Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.04.11 05:29:00 - [12] Bump For a Greate Thread!!! This is really needed. Why would i want to sell my stuff to others outside my 300 member corp? I rule the industry and production in this low sec/high sec (some 0.0) corp. Our member buy corp stuff to support corp Corp sell stuff at a better price than market gives them at. I need to make trade in stations or set up these contracts. But hey!! It is a pain to set up contracts on every order i get. I want to be able to build 10 BS, 10 BC, xxx units of all ammo types and alot of modulses and just put them on the corp market, looking exactly like the normal one does now but with exeption that only corp members can se it and buy frome it. Corp itself can decide if only directors or anyone in corp can put stuff on the market. Directors have a bonus to change orders without trading skills. CCP I AM NOT ASKING FOR STUFF OFTEN :) PLEASE!
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.12 05:48:00 - [13] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.15 06:46:00 - [14] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Aneroi Amarr VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.15 08:31:00 - [15] /signed I think they are working on getting the whole corp and alliance mechanics better and this would be a good thing to include http://aneroi.tk
Rosur	Posted - 2007.04.15 13:16:00 - [16] /signed Nice idea would be great to have espically for big corps/Alliances
Zahril Minmatar	Posted - 2007.04.15 14:58:00 - [17] I have been bit amazed for a long time that game so focused on warfare doesn¦t have easy way to have trade embargo¦s or have market just for your own corp/alliance. Here¦s what I propose. Simple enabled/disabled list for your corp and another for your alliance, if the person wanting to buy something from isn¦t on your enabled list he wouldn¦t be able to make the purchase. If you for example wanted to trade with just your alliance, you would enable your alliance only. If you wanted to allow trade with everyone else than your enemy alliance you would use option "enable all" and then disable that alliance, etc. I think this system would be very flexible. In addition to the basic enable/disable the option tab would have allow filling buy orders for you and them and allow buying from sell orders for you and them. This way you could for example allow the enemy filling your buy orders but not buying stuff from your sell orders. This system would need new option when you set up buy/sell orders too though you would have to be able to designate that order to a specific market, so that cheap stuff you wanted to sell to your corp mates wouldnt be bought by complete strangers. Would only 3 options though, all, alliance and corporation so it shouldnt too big hassle. Hope you people can understand the idea :)
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.23 03:54:00 - [18] bump to a great thread and something that i want in EVE!!! -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.24 15:47:00 - [19] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Hajo Vosa Gallente Corp Delivery Service	Posted - 2007.04.24 16:21:00 - [20] Yes this sounds very good... but I think much better will be a possiblity to make a own Market on a POS (Like mobile Laboratory¦s) or in a Station, where you can decided to who you are selling or that Corpmembers get a reduced price for Items. Fly safe Hajo Vosa
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.25 05:57:00 - [21] Yes that is fine to. The hole idea is to give you the option to sell to who you want to sell to, not to everyone. The contracts is to hard work to set up for a corp when you want to sell ammo and alot of other modules. You cant take orders from every members and then set up private contracts. What i want is a option for the high sec/low sec corps/alliances that want to produce there own stuff and sell to there own members, not everyone. The deep 0.0 corps/alliances have there outpost with there docking rights and they can limit there market to there own members (ppl that have docking rights). But in NPC regions, high sec, low sec you cant. And as you say, a POS should also be able to have a market function. Set up a POS in a 0.0 system, produce alot and sell to ppl that have access to the POS. So i will keep bumping this thread until i have hole EVE on my side!! Or a dev something person comments this... So far atleast i cant se any drawbacks in it. Prove me wrong... BUMP -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Tho Vosa	Posted - 2007.04.26 13:16:00 - [22] whithout Bumping...... One more good thing about POS market came in my mind....if players has this posibility than maybe the lag in the most frequenceed Areas (Jita/Oursulaert,Rens) will go down, because there is a chance to find cheap stuff, on player related markets.(Oh I have so much stuff to sell, but don¦t want to spent so much Taxes.... )
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.26 17:20:00 - [23] Thansk for your "without bumping" :p Actually i dont mind the taxes really. If i just could sell to members it would be awesome. To do this now is way to mutch work and i dont think noone is doing this. Insteed ppl are putting up free t1 stuff for members and then they sell ships on contracts or members have to order them when they need them. But with this funcition a small empire corp can still support members with modules and sell it for a very low price, way better than empire market, and still get a few iskis into the corp wallet. Humpi Bumpi Dump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Yamichi Wiggin Caldari Rising Knights SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.26 17:49:00 - [24] LOVE IT! woooha. me likey This is a great idea. As stated above, with all the plans to improve gang/corp/alliance operations, this one is an ideal (and hopefully obvious) step in that direction. Would be much easier than having to set up a corp office at every station where you have operations. Frankly- even in 0.0 it's hard. Our alliance has a lot of members and only 4 corp offices at our main outpost. So it either sits in the corp hangar and is moved for free or it's sold on open market. That stinks. I love this idea. ------ Pain is weakness leaving the body. There is no love in fear
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.26 19:29:00 - [25] Glad you are on my side and support the idea! As you said, this is a logical step to take!!! It would be so nice if members could open market window, search for there ship/module/stuff and get a good overview of who is selling what. Open market Corp market Alliance market Then member can se what option is cheapest or who should i support. Corp maybe sell some basic t1 modules for a awesome price and you decide to support corp. But then you want a ship and not all corps have a t2 BPO to produce t2 ships, but maybe someone in your alliance have one and you can se if you find that ship on the alliance market. And after a long day you need some exotic dancers... you know ofcourse that corp and alliance dont support stuff like that, but you know your ebil enemie do and they sell it on the open market. Volla, you now have used all 3 markets :) -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.27 05:23:00 - [26] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.28 19:25:00 - [27] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Anna CO	Posted - 2007.04.29 18:34:00 - [28] I like Lets hope this will be something for next patch... But i dont think so :(, but hoping is nice!!
Viro Melchior	Posted - 2007.04.30 01:51:00 - [29] Didn't read all the way through, but BUMP. I like the idea and would love to see it in place. P.S. More hangar divisions!
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.30 08:04:00 - [30] Thanks for your Bump! It was needed :) Dont a little bumping my self so everyone have the chance to se this. And i truly hope i hit the buttom at the right time when CCP decide to look in this section of the forum. -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Blue Copy	Posted - 2007.04.30 13:25:00 - [31] This is something thats realy needed, and im actually a bitt supprised they havent implemented some form of it yet, after all, its not like it hasnt ben requested repetadly the last 3 years. The fact that you can even buy out everyting in an outpost before you attack that outpost system, to deny your enemies whatever they have put on the market (even though you cant dock to collect it before you win the fight), makes it even more important to get something like this.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.01 16:24:00 - [32] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Anna CO	Posted - 2007.05.04 06:27:00 - [33] a little friendly bump to reactivate this greate topic again
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.06 11:25:00 - [34] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.06 20:43:00 - [35] I would love this. As it stands now, I have to eve-mail our "ammo guy" for a quote, have him build the items, then he does a private item exchange contract to me. What a pain! Much nicer to have corp/alliance market, with the ability to put buy orders on it too. Sweet. ---- Some people say I have a bad attitude. Those people are stupid.
biginator	Posted - 2007.05.06 20:54:00 - [36] /signed this idea would be very useful, as atm my corp has to put up with the slow contract system
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.06 21:17:00 - [37] Greate to hear that so many likes this idea! So fare not one negative thing have been said and all seems to be agreeing on that this is needed to be able to work in a corp or alliance. If you want to have a corp that really want to sell things to members for a better price there must be a way to do this. Today there is only a direct trade at station or set up a contract to a player when the player want a item. But there is not always a director online to do this. A director is not always in that system at that hangar to do this. And it makes the logistic work a real pain if you have many members that need stuff often!! Members also needs the option to sell there loot, minerals, stuff to other corp members or the corp itself. But now all these things need alot of work before it can happend. So Please Please can we have a ingame market that are restricted to Corp only and Alliance only! -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.07 04:05:00 - [38] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.05.07 07:07:00 - [39] /signed Blazing Fire CEO Interstellar Operations Incorporated Recruting
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.07 09:42:00 - [40] thanks for that! more ppl signing this and it can be a new thing... lets show that we want this to be in the next patch -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.10 05:06:00 - [41] right to the top -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Trader Darin Gallente Sky Transport and Production	Posted - 2007.05.10 05:49:00 - [42] It must be work only inside alliance controlled region, it must nopt affect empire and empire corp. Becouse i dont think that some onegoes inside 0.0 up to 20-30 jumps to by somesing if he not in alliance... =========================== Between Light and Darkness, Road Difficult and Hard. Are able you pass it to the end?!? --- àOnly who walk on Path can reach it endà
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.10 11:41:00 - [43] Originally by: Trader Darin It must be work only inside alliance controlled region, it must nopt affect empire and empire corp. Becouse i dont think that some onegoes inside 0.0 up to 20-30 jumps to by somesing if he not in alliance... sry i did not fully understand your point here... The idea is to have a market that only works insed the corp or the alliance. In 0.0 where outpost and stations are controlled by alliances there is not really a need for this as you can regulate docking rights and control who can buy and who can¦t. But lets say you are in a corp that are members in alliance. Your corp have a t2 bpo that you use to produce stuff for your corp members. You want to sell it to your corp members first before you sell it to alliance members and after that you can sell it on the open market. So in a way this option is needed even in 0.0 in alliance controled regions! This idea should also be applied to empire and not only 0.0. This should be an option for low sec/high sec corps alliances to care for there members and not seed everything on the open market. If you can sell something for a awesome price to your friends you should be able to do that in a easy way without contracts or alot of logistic work. -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Sargeant HAmmer Caldari Hammers Academy	Posted - 2007.05.10 11:55:00 - [44] so whats the point in contracts again?
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.10 13:17:00 - [45] well imo the point of contracts are trading between player vs player or when a corp want to sell something on a auction ingame or just do a remote trade. the contract system is not built for corps and alliances to interact with members. how do you manage the logistic work when 20 members need to buy ammo and you as a corp want to sell it to them insteed that they go to your enemies and buy it. sure you can put it on open market and hope that members pick the right order... but then we have the traders that just will outbid you and your corp wont get a penny. Quote: And remember, this is not the end of corporation improvements; this is just the beginning. Or in the immortal words of Stephen Wright: "There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot." -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Archilies The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 19:33:00 - [46] i like this idea
Trader Darin Gallente Sky Transport and Production	Posted - 2007.05.11 03:01:00 - [47] Why then just not make alliance wide contracts??? They allow to sell you any stuff via alliance via contract system. =========================== Between Light and Darkness, Road Difficult and Hard. Are able you pass it to the end?!? --- àOnly who walk on Path can reach it endà
Clansworth Point-Zero	Posted - 2007.05.11 03:14:00 - [48] Perhaps make it based on relationship. Set a minimum standing relationship (seller -> buyer) for the sale, and perhaps a discounted tier. Add a couple boxes to the sale, 'Minimum Standing' and '___% discount for > ___ standing'. I think the standing system in game is underutilized in player level, compared to NPCs (everyone is either -10, 0, +5, or +10, with no reason to put anything in between.) Lifter, Prospector
Sinala Graves	Posted - 2007.05.11 03:19:00 - [49] great idea, but how about expanding on it a bit further, give both player and corp a set of market standings for both Buy and sell, as an example, I can give my corp a 50% discount by there +5 standing for market, my alliance a 40% discount, charge alliance XX a 20% increase cause I dont really like them, and flat out refuse sales from alliance YY, and refuse slaes to NPC corps. the people looking at the market see the price at there discounted rate and will buy from in house as its the cheapest out there. Buying similar idea set up a refuse to buy from tab, where I can refuse to buy from NPC corp members or alliance YY cause i refuse to support them in any way. it would also slow down the use of Pirate Alts buying and selling there goods and make them actually work, same with some of the alliance's. see any Problems? comments, suggestions?
Clansworth Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.11 06:21:00 - [50] I think there would be problems adding too many conditions and pricing variables, as this would significantly impact market database loads. That's why I simply suggested just two pricing tiers (so ultra-friendly can have a discount, and just one standing lookup.) This is already very customizable, as a corp could set noobs with a slightly positive standing, and set their markets to have the discount on just things like ammo and what not, but ships, the discount tier could be something higher. Could work on buys as well, letting corps buy mins from corp members at a better rate than public buys. Antoher addition that would be required would be an option when viewing market details to look at corp purchase prices (your corp's relationship with the seller) or private party (your personal relationship with the seller). No need to have a seperate exclusion list, as if you don't want to sell to someone, you set them to a negative standing (which would make sense), and set the minimum standing higher than this. This will provide for a much smoother interface for corp sells, and provide for partial orders (somthing seriously lacking in contracts, though I believe something like this was mentioned for future patches) Lifter, Prospector
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.11 08:34:00 - [51] thanks for all the support in this thread! why do we need systems depending on standings etc etc... i think it would be easier to just have a corp, ally, open- market insteed of a system where price is set depending on standings. we dont want to go to complicated if we want this to be ingame! and about the alliance/corpe wide contract... sure as i have been saying, it do work if you have 1 member that want to buy 1 thing... but if you have a hole alliance that want things at diffrent times the logistic work is to big. you cant set up a contract with 1mil trit and then have someone buy 1k trit frome that 1mil. but this you can with market option for alliance and corp private. if you have been involved in the logistic work around this you know why i am suggesting this. the contract system is good, but does not support corp ally trading!! so ill keep bumping and writing in this thread until it is locked, dev answer something or the option apears in the next patch -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Sargeant HAmmer Caldari Hammers Academy	Posted - 2007.05.11 12:56:00 - [52] so what your saying is that you want to create thousands more markets! I think they will look at you and their hardware and say that its not a good idea. creating your own market is what eve (everything everywhere) is. If you really think creating your own market with items why dont you become a trade hub where people who want things travel to you so you can do player to player trading. There are alot of markets out there, if eve really was going to have sub markets within markets that do cross region then what is the point of regional markets. also the regional markets are all seperate, if one crashes others stay up. its done regionally instead of across the universe to lower server load. im actually suprised they enabled all regions on the contract system even if u cant bid on items out of your region
Blood Poison	Posted - 2007.05.11 14:22:00 - [53] I totaly like the idea. This thing is much needed. I like to see Corp/Alliance market,with an option for you to choose if the Buy/Sell order is Corp only or available to the whole alliance. /signed
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.11 19:37:00 - [54] Originally by: Sargeant HAmmer so what your saying is that you want to create thousands more markets! I think they will look at you and their hardware and say that its not a good idea. creating your own market is what eve (everything everywhere) is. If you really think creating your own market with items why dont you become a trade hub where people who want things travel to you so you can do player to player trading. There are alot of markets out there, if eve really was going to have sub markets within markets that do cross region then what is the point of regional markets. also the regional markets are all seperate, if one crashes others stay up. its done regionally instead of across the universe to lower server load. im actually suprised they enabled all regions on the contract system even if u cant bid on items out of your region Thanks! You are making a good point and you are probably right here. You are the first one that thought about this. This make things harder indeed. I might not be looking for several markets... rather the option to sell only to corp members. As i said contract do allow this, but then you must know how mutch the member want, what price. and you cant just seed the t1 stuff to the market in your home system and be sure that only corp members will buy it. -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.13 05:21:00 - [55] so what do the rest think about this? is this idea still something that can be done or is all hope gone? i dont know how the mechanic work and if this possible. but something to make the logistic work less is really needed. you cant sell to corpmembers without a huge amoung of work to keep track, build, hand out, insure, haul... it is to mutch! -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.13 06:27:00 - [56] Well I think that the owner of the outpost should be able to allow (or deny) access to the market at the outpost. Also, only people with access to the outpost should be able to see what is being sold there. (So the hostiles cant come 1 jump into the region, and see what you have for supplies at the outpost). I also think you should be able to see who is selling what item. So you can choose not to buy from hostiles. Or if an alliance member is price gougin at the outpost you can deny them access to place orders.
Ep'ocx Zonn Caldari Mantigen Quanta Ultio Animi Causa	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:25:00 - [57] Edited by: Ep''ocx Zonn on 13/05/2007 16:24:07 Awesome IDEA!!! There is nothing more frustrating than getting killed by your own MODs =) For those of us who do not wish to support piracy or there mandates this would be a great tool to boycott these people or establishments. One doesnt have to battle to attack ... lets hit their wallets & they have no grounds but to stay on the good side of the line.
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.05.13 21:36:00 - [58] Originally by: Sargeant HAmmer so what your saying is that you want to create thousands more markets! I think they will look at you and their hardware and say that its not a good idea. creating your own market is what eve (everything everywhere) is. If you really think creating your own market with items why dont you become a trade hub where people who want things travel to you so you can do player to player trading. There are alot of markets out there, if eve really was going to have sub markets within markets that do cross region then what is the point of regional markets. also the regional markets are all seperate, if one crashes others stay up. its done regionally instead of across the universe to lower server load. im actually suprised they enabled all regions on the contract system even if u cant bid on items out of your region This will not put more load on the server. The corp/allaince market can use the same system, just the buy/sell orders will be flagged as corp/alliance and will not be shown to everyoen. simple as that. to more fields in the database, for each order. It is no so much. Blazing Fire CEO Interstellar Operations Incorporated Recruting
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.15 17:32:00 - [59] Edited by: Therese Law on 15/05/2007 17:30:17 bump want more to read this -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.19 08:38:00 - [60] doing another little bump.... -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Lt Mandrid Caldari Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.21 03:13:00 - [61] bump/ Command Pilot...
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.22 15:20:00 - [62] Originally by: Lt Mandrid bump/ thanks for that. lets keep this thread alive and let more and more and more ppl enjoy it :) let us know what you think!! -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Sarf Asgard Industries Safe And Fun Environment	Posted - 2007.05.23 18:44:00 - [63] I would like this as well. I would defiantly use it to put up corp buy orders for paying a premium on ore from corp members. I would also use it to stock supplies for the corp. I would also like to have it have a 6 month order time. The alliance market would be great for managing in alliance trades and sales. so definitly /signed. - Sarf CEO, Director of Freighter construction. Miner of small balls of dirt.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.23 20:34:00 - [64] yes this would make the planing of a corp and alliance economi way easier and mutch better. it is just logical that you should be able to put up order only for your members, who want to sell to the enemies? (dont come with dockingrights and other stuff, not all lives in outpost in 0.0) -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.28 16:03:00 - [65] time to bring this to the top bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
mightymadmat Amarr Equity Corp	Posted - 2007.05.28 16:11:00 - [66] A Corp/Alliance market would be nice Consider it signed Mighty Mad Mat Quote : 0.0 space is ideal for strip mining - think of it in both ways.
Sarf Asgard Industries Safe And Fun Environment	Posted - 2007.05.28 19:24:00 - [67] /bump - Sarf CEO, Director of Freighter construction. Miner of small balls of dirt.
Sarf Asgard Industries Safe And Fun Environment	Posted - 2007.05.29 19:44:00 - [68] new day, still a good idea /bump - Sarf CEO, Director of Freighter construction. Miner of small balls of dirt.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.30 13:23:00 - [69] Originally by: Sarf new day, still a good idea /bump Still is bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Sarf Asgard Industries Safe And Fun Environment	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:22:00 - [70] Punt, Back to the top Come on guys in a corps, you must want this for your alliance... Vote with your /signed - Sarf CEO, Director of Freighter construction. Miner of small balls of dirt.
Camilo Cienfuegos Caldari EP0CH	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:40:00 - [71] When currently placing a buy order, it's possible to select the range from your current location you would like the order to be available in through a pull-down menu. Is it so hard to allow us a second pull-down menu that allows us to specify availability: Any, Alliance and Corporation. The contracts system is slow, tedious and very limited. This is a much needed feature! /Signed
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.01 17:54:00 - [72] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Sarf Asgard Industries Safe And Fun Environment	Posted - 2007.06.02 14:53:00 - [73] /Punt Back to the head of the list - Sarf CEO, Director of Freighter construction. Miner of small balls of dirt.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.26 12:02:00 - [74] LONG TIME wow was a long time seince i bumped this. time fore one. I still think this idea is needed. -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Aciere	Posted - 2007.06.27 10:24:00 - [75] This is a great idea. While still a n00b character, I have played in both corps and alliances before, and the only other way to implement this is with an audit can and the honor system. /signed, and bump
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:50:00 - [76] thanks for that! hope more will se this thread and keep signing it :) -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
yaghist	Posted - 2007.06.27 13:37:00 - [77] Is CCP interested ?
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.28 15:49:00 - [78] 3 pages and no response... atleast they could have done that, or? anyway, bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.14 07:29:00 - [79] bump -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Cym Hugh Valiant Logistics Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.20 18:43:00 - [80] /signed Paying miners, supplying ships, modules and ammo to corp/alliance mates securely and without a ton of administrative overhead, it has my vote.
DorXtar KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.20 23:16:00 - [81] /signed T2 market warfare! :p ________________________________ It never hurts to help!
Therese Law Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.02 20:56:00 - [82] nice to se this old thread got som late bumps! still a good idea imo -- Ofc i am an alt of a shy alliance leader.
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated Black-Out	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:09:00 - [83] new bump for that great idea Blazing Fire CEO Interstellar Operations Incorporated Corp web site Recruitment PvPeers wanted for 0.0 Fleet ops and roaming/defense gangs Looking for experienced players Looking for new EVE players Services [Service] Killboard hosting [Service] Forum hosting [Service] Web site hosting [Service] Obelisk for rent [Service] Alliance Creation
Elias Riker	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:16:00 - [84] /signed
Elias Riker	Posted - 2007.12.07 06:40:00 - [85] /bump
Coreden	Posted - 2007.12.08 05:54:00 - [86] /signed
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated Black-Out	Posted - 2007.12.08 12:54:00 - [87] Originally by: Cym Hugh /signed Paying miners, supplying ships, modules and ammo to corp/alliance mates securely and without a ton of administrative overhead, it has my vote. Private corp/alliance and/or standings based market order will solve many administrative issues and make the life of CEOs and Directors much easier. And it is not so hard to implement. Just add one or two columns in the orders tables, so the order ACLs can be stored there. Couple of days effort for 1-2 guys to code and extend the databese. Come on CCP, it is not that hard and people totaly support this idea. Blazing Fire CEO Interstellar Operations Incorporated Corp web site Recruitment PvPeers wanted for 0.0 Fleet ops and roaming/defense gangs Looking for experienced players Looking for new EVE players Services [Service] Killboard hosting [Service] Forum hosting [Service] Web site hosting [Service] Obelisk for rent [Service] Alliance Creation
Elias Riker	Posted - 2007.12.10 12:17:00 - [88] /bump
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated Black-Out	Posted - 2007.12.10 12:36:00 - [89] I run my own thread about this lol Blazing Fire CEO Interstellar Operations Incorporated Corp web site Recruitment PvPeers wanted for 0.0 Fleet ops and roaming/defense gangs Looking for experienced players Looking for new EVE players Services [Service] Killboard hosting [Service] Forum hosting [Service] Web site hosting [Service] Obelisk for rent [Service] Alliance Creation
Ryuga VonRhaiden Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2007.12.10 12:59:00 - [90] Originally by: Tiger313 I think there could be an internal corp market where you can buy and sell stuff at whatever prices you agree on within the corp, and without having to pay broker fees as it is within the corp anyway. No. That part could be exploited. Say all (or most) corporations agree to join alts in a single "fake" corporation. Global market at no costs. Do not try and find the signature... that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth... There is no signature.
phatkat Frontier Economics Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.12.10 21:06:00 - [91] Edited by: phatkat on 10/12/2007 21:06:14 While originally i loved the idea. A quick, easy way to sell only to alliance/corp members. But then i thought about it a bit more and i see a significant problem. (To some it won't be a problem) The fact of the matter is you want to divide the market. In the end what this will achieve mercantile economies. (In 0.0 its already like that) Large alliances I'm sure will not want to buy a single ship/fitting from any alliance producer, this takes these items off the world market. Causing major inflation for any non-alliance players, and new players. While enabling veterans to have it even easier. While its a good idea i think it needs to be properly implemented to not effect the current market.
Coreden	Posted - 2007.12.12 17:29:00 - [92] Originally by: phatkat Edited by: phatkat on 10/12/2007 21:06:14 While originally i loved the idea. A quick, easy way to sell only to alliance/corp members. But then i thought about it a bit more and i see a significant problem. (To some it won't be a problem) The fact of the matter is you want to divide the market. In the end what this will achieve mercantile economies. (In 0.0 its already like that) Large alliances I'm sure will not want to buy a single ship/fitting from any alliance producer, this takes these items off the world market. Causing major inflation for any non-alliance players, and new players. While enabling veterans to have it even easier. While its a good idea i think it needs to be properly implemented to not effect the current market. If you think about it a bit further you will come to conclusion that the CONTRACT system is just this: A Mercantile Economy. I can set contracts at an alliance level and that in effect closes the market. Furthermore, there is no reason why large alliances would not buy from other non-alliance buyers if there is a reason too, especially if there is a shortage or the goods are a long way off. Also given that in the real world people have some clue as to who they are buying from, and who they are selling too (at least nominally, and especially when it comes to stuff like international embargoes), Remember Buy American? The possibility of having a closed market at the corp and alliance level to mediate the need for said organizations to maintain their supplies, does not necessarily detract from the common market, especially if one factirs in the contract system. A Alliance or Corp market only means that in the end the tedium of setting up contracts at the alliance and corp level is eliminated.
Coreden	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:00:00 - [93] /bump
Yoinx Caldari JET FORCE	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:13:00 - [94] Edited by: Yoinx on 13/12/2007 16:13:45 This seems like a really good idea. /signed - I wish I had something witty to put in a signature. -
Yuri Mengeroth Minmatar Very Bad Things	Posted - 2007.12.16 02:28:00 - [95] Most excellent idea! /Signed
Coreden	Posted - 2007.12.17 01:43:00 - [96] /bump
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.12.17 03:13:00 - [97] Hm.. I really wonder where the problem for CCP is to implement one more flag to the market orders, so it can be used. I mean.. how old is this idea? 9 months now? Surely more often posted by others before that date.. But since that time we got Heat, we got Scripts and we got Drone-Bandwith - unasked for. I'm not a big programmer, but I sure as hell would bet 100M isk that those gimmicks needed more than one flag on some data entry in a database.. Well, back on topic. What I miss by this system is some kind of price-check availability (just-in-time price check) or seen from the producers point of view.. a catalouge-function without the need to put up one of this items in the internal market. It also misses some decentralized production capacity allocation funtion.. nevertheless it's so signed by me! Well, think of a smaller corp with 40+ members, an industrial wing of 3-4 producers and an internal market volume of 1 BS, 2 BC, 5 Cruiser and several other stuff per week. As a member I would like to be able to: - want to know the price of the corp producers for an item (igmail, chat) - place an buy order for an item with an OPEN price tag (ugh?!) - want to support my corp by buying from them or selling to them (hm.. contracts/direct trade/corp hangar buying.. well) As a producer I would like to: - answer on price questions without the need to place a sell order (igmail, chat) - fill a buy order with a price I SET (huh?!) - place bulk-orders fillable by corp members, like minerals and co (what?!) At the moment I really miss some bounce/feedback system where the information is uncluttered visible to all within a group and can be altered. I described that in more detail in another thread, but here it is again: Quote: Problem: Corp has an industry-wing which produces stuff for it's members. But how to coordinate this ant-hill with as small as possible recources? Philosophy: Decentral decision making for the win. Easy Solution #1: Use an ingame mail to a maillinglist for orders, which is sent GLOBALLY and then have one producer with free capacity take the job by removing the order from the order-maillist and let him sent a job-taken-answer to the list. So to avoid clutter it would need from my point of view: Ability for moderators to remove/change mails of other people in this list GLOBALLY (for all other users of this mailinglist). I-can-think-of-Solution #2: Contracts. WTB-contract for wanted item is set up to Corp with an open-price-tag, which can be filled by the possible contract-taker, aka a producer of the corp. If the price is ok for the buyer he can push the contract back to the producer and give the job the go. If he don't likes the price he can skip the contract, but has used the tool for price-check. This would need: An advanced WTB-contract-type with answer-possibility/bounce-functionality/price-changing. I-can-think-of-Solution #3: Corp-internal-market with orders, that are only visible within the corp.. But here I can't think of any good/easy solution for getting the price information beforehand into the system without placing a sell-order WITH said item (very bad recource use). Well, just posted it as freaky idea :) Ok. Solution #2 is my favorite and would allow usage far beyound the problem I had in mind. Also CCP said, they would add more features to the contract system.. All in all I somehow think CCP really failed at the task, to provide us with information/managing-tools within our own conclomerates/groups.
Buehler	Posted - 2007.12.17 12:11:00 - [98] I think the private market is a great thing and should make it into the game. For some one like me who does not want to find the highest buy order, or travel to amarr space to sell of those laser's. I can sell the items to other members who will take the time to find out where to sell the Items, and bring more team work into the alliance/corp. As the market stands there are people who will buy one round of ammo to make sure they are not buying from the wrong alliance/corp. The whole contract system you can put itmes in there some do not want to buy.
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated Black-Out	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:02:00 - [99] on top again
Coreden	Posted - 2007.12.20 02:45:00 - [100] /bump
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated Black-Out	Posted - 2007.12.22 19:11:00 - [101] i feel like bumping today
NightKhaos Gallente Seridian Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.23 00:30:00 - [102] /signed CPU: Intel Core2 T5500 @ 1.66 RAM: 1024 GPU: nVidia GeForce Go 7300 GPU Drivers: 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19 Sound Card: HDA Intel Sound Card Driver: ALSA Version 1.0.14 Kernel: 2.6.23-gentoo-r3
Coreden	Posted - 2007.12.24 12:18:00 - [103] /bump
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated Black-Out	Posted - 2007.12.26 21:40:00 - [104] I will bump thid until it is implemented. Blazing Fire CEO Interstellar Operations Incorporated Corp web site Recruitment PvPeers wanted for 0.0 Fleet ops and roaming/defense gangs Looking for experienced players Looking for new EVE players Services [Service] Killboard hosting [Service] Forum hosting [Service] Web site hosting [Service] Obelisk for rent [Service] Alliance Creation
Coreden	Posted - 2008.01.05 17:19:00 - [105] /bump
Morcam	Posted - 2008.01.05 22:56:00 - [106] I see no problems with this, so why not? (Actually, if this were put in, I might think the devs read these forums! :P)
Freezehunter Gallente ECP Rogues The Reckoning.	Posted - 2008.01.06 02:54:00 - [107] /signed
Coreden	Posted - 2008.01.07 11:15:00 - [108] /bump
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated	Posted - 2008.04.02 12:28:00 - [109] on top again
Rudarstilski Alija Sirotanovich Mining Ops	Posted - 2008.04.02 12:30:00 - [110] \signed
Raven Timoshenko Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold	Posted - 2008.04.02 12:37:00 - [111] /signed The Great Game System Shock 2 and Mining, Hacking and Archeology
Raven Timoshenko Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold	Posted - 2008.04.22 11:08:00 - [112] /bump
Amarria Drezine	Posted - 2008.04.22 21:54:00 - [113] /signed

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