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Bobmon Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 206	Posted - 2017.02.23 21:53:16 - [181] - Quote Happy Hyde Happy Life @BobmonEVE - BOBMON FOR CSM 12
Falcon Starwalker Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2017.02.23 21:58:37 - [182] - Quote Oh boo hoo, small gang PvP has something that causes the nano MWD gangs trouble. Overall the HIC has been in a crap role for a long time. Giving the infini point the scram was the first decent bonus this class of ship has had in a long time. The class is slow, can't get any assistance and suffers from horrible base stats other than its tank. Penalizing the only decent ability this ship has just cause it can counter the 5K+ nano gangs, which are mostly immune to most other ships, is traditional CCP biased idiocy. Yes I am straight up calling CCP devs biased, as many of the active devs are small gang PvP, which just so happen to fly broken ships like 5k orthruses that can only be affected by ships like HICs. So yeah, good job with reducing the only useful aspect of a HIC in small gangs. Keep "balancing" this game to suit your play style and ignore the actual broken mechanics in the game.
Trajan Unknown SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 122	Posted - 2017.02.23 22:15:12 - [183] - Quote Ugly Eric wrote: exiik Shardani wrote: Ugly Eric wrote: one thing ppl seem to have missed completely is the usage of hics as a antitackle platform. Especially the onyx and the devoter. Those two ships have been practically untackleable with frigs heretills. When the devoter with pulses or a onyx with rapid lights gets tackled by a frig, the frig has not had the slightest chanche of survival, unless bunch of logi keeping them alive. Another point that has been almost completely dismissed here is the fact, that HIC's dont need to sacrifice anything else for the 40km scram, as it is a highslot module, whitch they all have a utility high for. Arazus, huginns etc. other controlplatforms all haveto sacrifice midslots for tackle. That has and will be a HUGE advantage for hics, even without 40km, but 21km scram. And pls stop saying RIP HIC's, as this change in my mind still keeps them as very valid ship, but not having a completely unfair advantage to them. 21km scram is still very powerfull tool. Not to forget their 40km disruptor. ! well did you realize that HIC cannot get remote reps but frig in your example can? as well 2 times cheaper arazu can be remote rep... who care about 37km disruptor when any HIC is slow as fu... well as destroyer and everybody with little brain, mwd and small capacitor can manage easily escape... if you need nerf HIC, it is still better to let them have scram like 28km when faction 37km is so huge problem... btw. did you try fit devoter as solo combat ship? I think not... try fit it with heavy pulses and then speak about tank... Well, actually yes. Quite a few times. Either by myself or by a corpie on a roam. Between us we have around 100 killmarks with the thing. Quote: [Devoter, Devoter **** tissue] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Centum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Capacitor Booster II Stasis Webifier II 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II True Sansha Warp Disruption Field Generator Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Energy Metastasis Adjuster II Warrior II x5 Acolyte II x5 Navy Cap Booster 400 x32 Focused Warp Disruption Script x1 Conflagration M x5 Scorch M x10 Imperial Navy Xray M x5 Imperial Navy Infrared M x5 Nanite Repair Paste x238 1741 m/s cold 2453 hot 304 dps with scorch to 39.7 + 6.25 km. cold. 262 hp/s tank cold 339.1 hp/s tank hot. Replace with AAR to get more peak tank. Similar fit is possible to onyx with even better weapon DPS and aplication. Devoter has flight of small drones to top the 304 dps it pumps with pulses. Thanks for some actual input on this topic. You are one, if not the only one who is actually putting up some numbers and give out some stuff to look at and compare to. Others just spit out random crap they can-¦t or don-¦t want to back up or simply sperging here. So let-¦s get on the actual thing. May I ask why you prefer this thing over a dedicated tackler like Arazu? Your fit has no tank for a HIC, is slower than an Arazu (at least mine) by a lot and the only things that speaks for it is the long scram which I can match when using links and your 300 vs my 120dps. Sure, it is no infinite scram but I am not about tackling supers/plex farmers/DSTs. My damage is not as good as yours either but I am way faster, have longpoint, longscram plus dampener while sporting the same tank with more speed. [spoiler] [Arazu, Spooky] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Damage Control II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Field II Phased Muon Scoped Sensor Dampener True Sansha Warp Scrambler Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II Valkyrie II x3 Warrior II x2 Quafe Zero x1 Javelin M x800 Spike M x1200 Strong Mindflood Booster x1 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x1200 Caldari Navy Thorium Charge M x1200 Scan Resolution Dampening Script x1 Targeting Range Dampening Script x1 [/spoiler] And all these other snowflakes, I am looking at you Suitonia and followers who sperg about the super tanky HICs all the time. Can you guys give a single example of a super tanky HIC that is actually capable of being used in small gangs? Because I can give you a bloody HIC too and call it out for being super tanky and whatnot but guess what? It is slow, it is clunky and it is getting outplayed pretty easy. It-¦s only purpose is, to lock down a certain area on grid/keeping a super/cap in place without getting shred by fighters within seconds. It tanks 5k dps cold and 6.5k dps hot while being cap stable under neut pressure without using cap charges but guess what else it does? It-¦s not moving pretty fast. The stats are with full crystals, pill and links before someone thinks you get that out of a "solo Onyx". Oh, did I mention it comes with a steep price tag? No? Well, it costs a lot and is not really something I-¦d fly for real except to tackle something like a super. You can downgrade the bling of course and lose out on tank to make it viable for shutting down a part of the grid vs smaller stuff but it is still a 1bil fit that can be outplayed without problems.
Suitonia KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 776	Posted - 2017.02.23 22:29:42 - [184] - Quote Falcon Starwalker wrote: Oh boo hoo, small gang PvP has something that causes the nano MWD gangs trouble. Overall the HIC has been in a crap role for a long time. Giving the infini point the scram was the first decent bonus this class of ship has had in a long time. The class is slow, can't get any assistance and suffers from horrible base stats other than its tank. Penalizing the only decent ability this ship has just cause it can counter the 5K+ nano gangs, which are mostly immune to most other ships, is traditional CCP biased idiocy. Yes I am straight up calling CCP devs biased, as many of the active devs are small gang PvP, which just so happen to fly broken ships like 5k orthruses that can only be affected by ships like HICs. So yeah, good job with reducing the only useful aspect of a HIC in small gangs. Keep "balancing" this game to suit your play style and ignore the actual broken mechanics in the game. Orthrus' don't care about HICs, HICs killed small gang brawling battlecruisers and battleships more than they killed kiting ships. Orthrus was the one kiting ship that still performs fine with HICs around (Because it can tackle to 45km unlinked, and projects way past HIC scram range). Unfortunately for ships like nano BCs, most nano cruisers, they cannot and were removed from the metagame. People keep citing HICs as a counter to the Orthrus and it's just not true. The Orthrus is overpowered, but Orthrus don't suffer nearly as much as any other casual kiting ship does, also HICs destroyed BS/BC brawling more than kiting, since the kiting gangs adapted to just running 100mn on everything or Keres support. The only thing HICs counter is anyone not flying an Orthrus, or fitting 100mn and want to PVP in a cruiser or bigger, which hey surprise, is 80% of the current metagame. I'm not looking forward to having to fly an Orthrus or 100mn for another 2 years. Contributer to Eve is Easy: https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos Solo PvP is possible with a 20 day old character! :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOB4KXYk-o
Suitonia KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 776	Posted - 2017.02.23 22:36:15 - [185] - Quote Quote: Thanks for some actual input on this topic. You are one, if not the only one who is actually putting up some numbers and give out some stuff to look at and compare to. Others just spit out random crap they can-¦t or don-¦t want to back up or simply sperging here. So let-¦s get on the actual thing. May I ask why you prefer this thing over a dedicated tackler like Arazu? Your fit has no tank for a HIC, is slower than an Arazu (at least mine) by a lot and the only things that speaks for it is the long scram which I can match when using links and your 300 vs my 120dps. Sure, it is no infinite scram but I am not about tackling supers/plex farmers/DSTs. My damage is not as good as yours either but I am way faster, have longpoint, longscram plus dampener while sporting the same tank with more speed. [spoiler] [Arazu, Spooky] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Damage Control II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Field II Phased Muon Scoped Sensor Dampener True Sansha Warp Scrambler Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II Valkyrie II x3 Warrior II x2 Quafe Zero x1 Javelin M x800 Spike M x1200 Strong Mindflood Booster x1 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x1200 Caldari Navy Thorium Charge M x1200 Scan Resolution Dampening Script x1 Targeting Range Dampening Script x1 [/spoiler] And all these other snowflakes, I am looking at you Suitonia and followers who sperg about the super tanky HICs all the time. Can you guys give a single example of a super tanky HIC that is actually capable of being used in small gangs? Because I can give you a bloody HIC too and call it out for being super tanky and whatnot but guess what? It is slow, it is clunky and it is getting outplayed pretty easy. It-¦s only purpose is, to lock down a certain area on grid/keeping a super/cap in place without getting shred by fighters within seconds. It tanks 5k dps cold and 6.5k dps hot while being cap stable under neut pressure without using cap charges but guess what else it does? It-¦s not moving pretty fast. The stats are with full crystals, pill and links before someone thinks you get that out of a "solo Onyx". Oh, did I mention it comes with a steep price tag? No? Well, it costs a lot and is not really something I-¦d fly for real except to tackle something like a super. You can downgrade the bling of course and lose out on tank to make it viable for shutting down a part of the grid vs smaller stuff but it is still a 1bil fit that can be outplayed without problems. https://i.imgur.com/GY41fRt.png 135k EHP, 500 anti support DPS to 47.5km. It only goes 1.4km/s cold but there isn't much you can do to it You can ofc bring links for this Onyx too. Total cost is cheaper than your Arazu. You can drop a BCU and damage control for double nano which will give 2.2km/s when linked, which is pretty oppressive, while still being able to solo most nano Cruisers 1v1. You can get the same tank on a Broadsword if you sacrifice all damage that goes faster than most kiting cruisers in the game so if you want a pure support fit it's way better than a lachesis with better than linked scram range with 3x the EHP. Contributer to Eve is Easy: https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos Solo PvP is possible with a 20 day old character! :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOB4KXYk-o
Pandemic Horde Rulez State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.02.23 22:51:04 - [186] - Quote hahaha look at these small gang pvpers like TURN LEFT TURN RIGHT into the dumpster hahahahaha. listen all u small gang people leave ur corp apply to pandemic horde or karmafleet this should be only and best way to pvp in this game tbh you should always lose to more people doesnt matter how good at the game you are how bad we are, HIC should = you die to us even if we just assign drone to FC and go AFK. It's MMO for reason. if u want to play skill game go play DOTA or Overwatch lmao HIC is good because it completely broken and overpowered but at same time difficult for smaller side to use because it slow and expensive so easy for us to blob. this is good balance mechanic.
Trajan Unknown SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 123	Posted - 2017.02.23 22:52:45 - [187] - Quote Suitonia wrote: Quote: https://i.imgur.com/GY41fRt.png 135k EHP, 500 anti support DPS to 47.5km. It only goes 1.4km/s cold but there isn't much you can do to it You can ofc bring links for this Onyx too. Total cost is cheaper than your Arazu. You can drop a BCU and damage control for double nano which will give 2.2km/s when linked, which is pretty oppressive, while still being able to solo most nano Cruisers 1v1. You can get the same tank on a Broadsword if you sacrifice all damage that goes faster than most kiting cruisers in the game so if you want a pure support fit it's way better than a lachesis with better than linked scram range with 3x the EHP. Thanks for the input. :) My Arazu is cheaper to start with that. That HIC is slow as fuck again. So yeah, exactly my point. You can get a tanky HIC but it is slow. [quote]You can drop a BCU and damage control for double nano which will give 2.2km/s when linked, which is pretty oppressive, while still being able to solo most nano Cruisers 1v1. What the hell is considered "nano cruiser" nowadays? I am not sure about your definition but everything slower than 2.5/2.8 can get the fuck out. Additionally you-¦re comparing a HIC with links to a "nano cruiser"? I mean come on, of course the HIC will go to town with it except the pilot fucks up. There is nothing wrong with it at all. So my point stands, show me a HIC that is tanky and comparable to a nano cruiser when it comes to speed and damage projection/usefulness. And for the record: In the past two months I haven-¦t seen a single small gang nor mid seized gang that were using a ******* HIC in their comp. We used them for fleet fights a lot and sometimes people messed around with them. If memory serves I actually welped an Onyx but I didn-¦t see a single gang using a Onyx/HIC. I have seen plenty of cruiser gangs though and the only 100mn "cruiser" I-¦ve encountered was a nasty Legion. :D
yogizh GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 35	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:04:34 - [188] - Quote Another meaningless nerf concieved by small gang pubbies that bring 0 content to EVE except their Twitching and ATs. Why the hell do you listen to these clowns CCP ? Just delete all ships, keep only BC snipers so we can kite ourselves forever.
Suitonia KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 778	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:07:17 - [189] - Quote yogizh wrote: Another meaningless nerf concieved by small gang pubbies that bring 0 content to EVE except their Twitching and ATs. Why the hell do you listen to these clowns CCP ? Just delete all ships, keep only BC snipers so we can kite ourselves forever. People actually want to play a sandbox MMO their way? almost 80% of the ship pool obsoleted by this one ship? Nah **** it. Play our way only. Contributer to Eve is Easy: https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos Solo PvP is possible with a 20 day old character! :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOB4KXYk-o
yogizh GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 37	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:21:59 - [190] - Quote Suitonia wrote: yogizh wrote: Another meaningless nerf concieved by small gang pubbies that bring 0 content to EVE except their Twitching and ATs. Why the hell do you listen to these clowns CCP ? Just delete all ships, keep only BC snipers so we can kite ourselves forever. People actually want to play a sandbox MMO their way? almost 80% of the ship pool obsoleted by this one ship? Nah **** it. Play our way only. Ok play small gangs in lowsec. Play whatever. Third change I am reading today and I am not impressed. This crap is leading to arranged honour fights and hours spend chasing around risk averse fools. For nearly two years we are listening to "changes are in progress". Changes to what ? LOL ? DOTA ? Pffft. Numbers don't lie, big fleet fights draw most people to the game, waiting somewhere for a 1v1 for hours to get blobbed by ceptors ? I can see that working out well. Oh wait it already does, but I have to make a twitch account first to let everyone know that I am not a cyno bait so someone will be so gracious to fight me. :cripes:

exiik Shardani Imperial Spacedrill and Logistics 103	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:25:42 - [191] - Quote well am I blind because I do not see a HIC in every roaming gang in providence? and there is no HIC at every gate :-( but tons of uncatchable interceptors, tons of Sabres (other bublers still exist?), tons of cloaky ships and Orthruses, Brutixes. I never heard anyone there to say anything wrong is with HIC's... tell my please why 37km scram on one expensive, HI skills and special ship is wrong, but unstopable interceptor can disrupt infinite time my VNI and my drones can kill him rarely (I have there 3x DNC, acolytes fly over 10k and still luckily hit that inty?) is fine? sry for my English :-(
Suitonia KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 781	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:26:56 - [192] - Quote yogizh wrote: Suitonia wrote: yogizh wrote: Another meaningless nerf concieved by small gang pubbies that bring 0 content to EVE except their Twitching and ATs. Why the hell do you listen to these clowns CCP ? Just delete all ships, keep only BC snipers so we can kite ourselves forever. People actually want to play a sandbox MMO their way? almost 80% of the ship pool obsoleted by this one ship? Nah **** it. Play our way only. Ok play small gangs in lowsec. Play whatever. Third change I am reading today and I am not impressed. This crap is leading to arranged honour fights and hours spend chasing around risk averse fools. For nearly two years we are listening to "changes are in progress". Changes to what ? LOL ? DOTA ? Pffft. Numbers don't lie, big fleet fights draw most people to the game, waiting somewhere for a 1v1 for hours to get blobbed by ceptors ? I can see that working out well. Oh wait it already does, but I have to make a twitch account first to let everyone know that I am not a cyno bait so someone will be so gracious to fight me. :cripes: If you joined MoA, the posting quality in both Goons and MoA would go up. Contributer to Eve is Easy: https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos Solo PvP is possible with a 20 day old character! :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOB4KXYk-o
yogizh GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 39	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:29:58 - [193] - Quote Suitonia wrote: yogizh wrote: Suitonia wrote: yogizh wrote: Another meaningless nerf concieved by small gang pubbies that bring 0 content to EVE except their Twitching and ATs. Why the hell do you listen to these clowns CCP ? Just delete all ships, keep only BC snipers so we can kite ourselves forever. People actually want to play a sandbox MMO their way? almost 80% of the ship pool obsoleted by this one ship? Nah **** it. Play our way only. Ok play small gangs in lowsec. Play whatever. Third change I am reading today and I am not impressed. This crap is leading to arranged honour fights and hours spend chasing around risk averse fools. For nearly two years we are listening to "changes are in progress". Changes to what ? LOL ? DOTA ? Pffft. Numbers don't lie, big fleet fights draw most people to the game, waiting somewhere for a 1v1 for hours to get blobbed by ceptors ? I can see that working out well. Oh wait it already does, but I have to make a twitch account first to let everyone know that I am not a cyno bait so someone will be so gracious to fight me. :cripes: If you joined MoA, the posting quality in both Goons and MoA would go up. Yes, please tell me how many hics are on your lossmails in a month ? Also please educate me about t2 cruisers which you don't obviously fly. https://zkillboard.com/character/1192491827/losses/
Tomoko Sunji Drama Sutra Incorporated. 3	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:32:47 - [194] - Quote exiik Shardani wrote: tell my please why 37km scram on one expensive, HI skills and special ship is wrong, but unstopable interceptor can disrupt infinite time my VNI and my drones can kill him rarely (I have there 3x DNC, acolytes fly over 10k and still luckily hit that inty?) is fine? Bullshit.
Lucy Callagan TURN LEFT 223	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:36:29 - [195] - Quote Pandemic Horde Rulez wrote: hahaha look at these small gang pvpers like TURN LEFT TURN RIGHT into the dumpster hahahahaha. listen all u small gang people leave ur corp apply to pandemic horde or karmafleet this should be only and best way to pvp in this game tbh you should always lose to more people doesnt matter how good at the game you are how bad we are, HIC should = you die to us even if we just assign drone to FC and go AFK. It's MMO for reason. if u want to play skill game go play DOTA or Overwatch lmao HIC is good because it completely broken and overpowered but at same time difficult for smaller side to use because it slow and expensive so easy for us to blob. this is good balance mechanic. I'm GM on overwatch
Casper24 Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED 11	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:43:23 - [196] - Quote Trajan Unknown wrote: Suitonia wrote: Quote: https://i.imgur.com/GY41fRt.png 135k EHP, 500 anti support DPS to 47.5km. It only goes 1.4km/s cold but there isn't much you can do to it You can ofc bring links for this Onyx too. Total cost is cheaper than your Arazu. You can drop a BCU and damage control for double nano which will give 2.2km/s when linked, which is pretty oppressive, while still being able to solo most nano Cruisers 1v1. You can get the same tank on a Broadsword if you sacrifice all damage that goes faster than most kiting cruisers in the game so if you want a pure support fit it's way better than a lachesis with better than linked scram range with 3x the EHP. Thanks for the input. :) My Arazu is cheaper to start with that. That HIC is slow as fuck again. So yeah, exactly my point. You can get a tanky HIC but it is slow. [quote]You can drop a BCU and damage control for double nano which will give 2.2km/s when linked, which is pretty oppressive, while still being able to solo most nano Cruisers 1v1. What the hell is considered "nano cruiser" nowadays? I am not sure about your definition but everything slower than 2.5/2.8 can get the fuck out. Additionally you-¦re comparing a HIC with links to a "nano cruiser"? I mean come on, of course the HIC will go to town with it except the pilot fucks up. There is nothing wrong with it at all. So my point stands, show me a HIC that is tanky and comparable to a nano cruiser when it comes to speed and damage projection/usefulness. And for the record: In the past two months I haven-¦t seen a single small gang nor mid seized gang that were using a ******* HIC in their comp. We used them for fleet fights a lot and sometimes people messed around with them. If memory serves I actually welped an Onyx but I didn-¦t see a single gang using a Onyx/HIC. I have seen plenty of cruiser gangs though and the only 100mn "cruiser" I-¦ve encountered was a nasty Legion. :D ___ Phobos [Phobos, Garmons Addy] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Small Capacitor Booster II Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender Warp Disruption Field Generator II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Hybrid Locus Coordinator II Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x2325 Focused Warp Disruption Script x2 Nanite Repair Paste x200 Navy Cap Booster 400 x22 Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge M x2490 502 dps with AM with 32km opti and 47km falloff 2361ms cold 36.4k EHP OH and a 37km scram. not to mention cap stable if ur not an idiot So my point stands, show me a HIC that is tanky and comparable to a nano cruiser when it comes to speed and damage projection/usefulness. There ya are :) smack allowed in english only
Tomoko Sunji Drama Sutra Incorporated. 3	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:50:09 - [197] - Quote Matou83 wrote: s+¬rieusement plus sa va plus vous +¬tes abrutie, en gros en solo maitenant le hid tu le trash it et puis voil+á.... super bande de cr+¬tin et on le recolle comment l'adversaire ....... IMBECILITE INCOMMENSURABLE, FULL ******** CCP!!!!! go nerf titan et ms no???? U mong, speak english
Tomoko Sunji Drama Sutra Incorporated. 3	Posted - 2017.02.23 23:53:52 - [198] - Quote Casper24 wrote: Phobos [Phobos, Garmons Addy] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Small Capacitor Booster II Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender Warp Disruption Field Generator II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Hybrid Locus Coordinator II Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x2325 Focused Warp Disruption Script x2 Nanite Repair Paste x200 Navy Cap Booster 400 x22 Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge M x2490 And they said orthrus was cancer hu. This ** is still gonna be ***** awesome post patch.
exiik Shardani Imperial Spacedrill and Logistics 104	Posted - 2017.02.24 00:06:17 - [199] - Quote Tomoko Sunji wrote: And they said orthrus was cancer hu. This ** is still gonna be ***** awesome post patch. just one thing. How often did you see that HIC in space and how often did you see orthrus? sry for my English :-(
lord xavier Rubbed Out PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS 148	Posted - 2017.02.24 00:12:25 - [200] - Quote Hans Downherpantz wrote: brawling dies again You don't brawl at a 30k orbit in a hic for anything other than to be risk adverse and too cheap to fit a nicely fit orth.

Tomoko Sunji Drama Sutra Incorporated. 3	Posted - 2017.02.24 00:13:30 - [201] - Quote exiik Shardani wrote: just one thing. How often did you see that HIC in space and how often did you see orthrus? obviously less, because most of the guys in eve are plebs that can't fit decently a ship unless it becomes mainstream and easy to play.
Lamajagarn McMyra No Vacancies No Vacancies. 18	Posted - 2017.02.24 00:14:51 - [202] - Quote A script tp disrupt cynosural field generators would be nice to, way of countering cynos => more killed capitals => profit!
exiik Shardani Imperial Spacedrill and Logistics 104	Posted - 2017.02.24 00:19:56 - [203] - Quote Tomoko Sunji wrote: obviously less, because most of the guys in eve are plebs that can't fit decently a ship unless it becomes mainstream and easy to play. orthrus TOP 5 zkill ship any HIC there? no sry for my English :-(
Casper24 Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED 12	Posted - 2017.02.24 00:21:06 - [204] - Quote lord xavier wrote: Hans Downherpantz wrote: brawling dies again You don't brawl at a 30k orbit in a hic for anything other than to be risk adverse or you're too cheap to fit a nicely fit orth. U should never orbit in this game ever. Also yes i am obviously much to cheap and risk averse to fly an orthrus... hmmmmm. This is more fun than an orthrus, takes a bit of skill to acutally fly, and against the meta so not everyone knows a direct counter - oh ya, and u live if a blob warps in on ur "brawling" hic smack allowed in english only
Tomoko Sunji Drama Sutra Incorporated. 3	Posted - 2017.02.24 00:22:31 - [205] - Quote exiik Shardani wrote: Tomoko Sunji wrote: obviously less, because most of the guys in eve are plebs that can't fit decently a ship unless it becomes mainstream and easy to play. orthrus TOP 5 zkill ship any HIC there? no As i said, if noone make a "dank pvp videa" most people in new eden won't even think about trying to fit it this way. And btw, this ship is more skill intensive that would ever been an orthrus (got a cap booster tho, easier cap management i give you that).
Justin Cody Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens 353	Posted - 2017.02.24 00:24:09 - [206] - Quote Ted McManfist wrote: Did the ultra risk-averse 5,000 m/sec kiting people cry too loud? yeah but its probably right to do even though I don't like it. I will HTFU and adapt. fly Lachesis etc. Now please make the Lach useful as armor tanker and faster/more agile and actully doing good dps in the cruiser range. thanks.
Raven Ship Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2017.02.24 00:45:19 - [207] - Quote CCP Larrikin wrote: Changes: Remove the Warp Scrambling effect from the Focused Warp Disruption Script Introduce a new Focused Warp Scrambling Script with a -20% range bonus Now balance out HIC's by increasing there base speed twice, and removing disallow propusion/support while having buble generator active. GM's exploiting ingame, banning those who beat them, and now changing game mechanics for there pleasure... just sell ccp dev office to some serious company.
Rath Valent 235MeV Waterboard Comedy Tour 7	Posted - 2017.02.24 01:03:00 - [208] - Quote These changes are OK but there is another aspect of HICs that should be looked at. This surely will annoy T3C, ceptor and yacht pilots who are used to blowing through nullsec but nullified ships are a gameplay element that needs some sort of actual counter. My corp CEO has suggested that a hictor bubble should be able to catch nullified ships so there is at least something that can be put on the field to try to prevent a nullified ship from simply moonwalking to zero on every warpable object. Personally I would extend this to T2 bubbles as well but that's probably too much and the HIC approach requires active rather than passive engagement. What does everyone think?
FT Diomedes The Graduates 2805	Posted - 2017.02.24 02:45:45 - [209] - Quote Ted McManfist wrote: Did the ultra risk-averse 5,000 m/sec kiting people cry too loud? I guess they did. I was all full of positive thoughts about some of the changes, but this is a terrible change. We finally had a way to force some of the risk-averse kiters to be smarter about picking their engagements and you had to go and ruin it. CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
Ruby Gnollo 17	Posted - 2017.02.24 03:12:41 - [210] - Quote Pandemic Horde Rulez wrote: HIC is good because it completely broken and overpowered but at same time difficult for smaller side to use because it slow and expensive so easy for us to blob. this is good balance mechanic. If getting killmails in Eve was a matter of skill, Koreans would play and win ar it. Leave Eve to the rejects of competitive games, please



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