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Querns GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2807	Posted - 2017.03.27 20:14:30 - [91] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Querns wrote: Really, now. I think you'll be fine in a PVP scenario without all the projected ECCM and reactor control units you think you might need. You'll just have to make some choices. The entitlement pile doesn't stop from getting taller around here. Lol entitlement. No one is entitled to jack. Stop trying to convey functionality for entitlement just because YOU will never fly one. The ship is plenty functional, and has adequate space. Cargohold limitations exist for a reason. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Tara Read Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 943	Posted - 2017.03.27 20:16:45 - [92] - Quote Querns wrote: Tara Read wrote: Querns wrote: Really, now. I think you'll be fine in a PVP scenario without all the projected ECCM and reactor control units you think you might need. You'll just have to make some choices. The entitlement pile doesn't stop from getting taller around here. Lol entitlement. No one is entitled to jack. Stop trying to convey functionality for entitlement just because YOU will never fly one. The ship is plenty functional, and has adequate space. Cargohold limitations exist for a reason. Its not a cargo hold its a fleet hangar. Again because the ship is functional it needs space to carry the modules that MAKE it functional.
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 3263	Posted - 2017.03.27 20:20:47 - [93] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Querns wrote: Tara Read wrote: Querns wrote: Really, now. I think you'll be fine in a PVP scenario without all the projected ECCM and reactor control units you think you might need. You'll just have to make some choices. The entitlement pile doesn't stop from getting taller around here. Lol entitlement. No one is entitled to jack. Stop trying to convey functionality for entitlement just because YOU will never fly one. The ship is plenty functional, and has adequate space. Cargohold limitations exist for a reason. Its not a cargo hold its a fleet hangar. Again because the ship is functional it needs space to carry the modules that MAKE it functional. Fleet Hangar limits also exist for a reason.
Querns GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2810	Posted - 2017.03.27 20:21:14 - [94] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Querns wrote: Tara Read wrote: Querns wrote: Really, now. I think you'll be fine in a PVP scenario without all the projected ECCM and reactor control units you think you might need. You'll just have to make some choices. The entitlement pile doesn't stop from getting taller around here. Lol entitlement. No one is entitled to jack. Stop trying to convey functionality for entitlement just because YOU will never fly one. The ship is plenty functional, and has adequate space. Cargohold limitations exist for a reason. Its not a cargo hold its a fleet hangar. Again because the ship is functional it needs space to carry the modules that MAKE it functional. Splitting hairs. The ship will function just fine without a jump freighter-sized fleet hangar. You may need to leave some stuff behind, however. This makes you a little more vulnerable in some situations, of course, but that's okay. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Querns GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2810	Posted - 2017.03.27 20:23:08 - [95] - Quote Besides, just think -- if you can't carry as much in your fleet hangar, the total ISK value of your killmail will be lower. Perhaps if you optimize this well enough, you won't have to drop corp or unplug implants when you get caught doing something dumb. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Gabriel Karade Noir. Mercenary Coalition 325	Posted - 2017.03.27 20:24:32 - [96] - Quote 'Corpse bay' seems pretty silly to be honest, serves no actual purpose, and from a fluff perspective who the hell builds a warship with a totally pointless space? War Machine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=386293
Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research Nornir Empire 1040	Posted - 2017.03.27 20:53:11 - [97] - Quote Gabriel Karade wrote: 'Corpse bay' seems pretty silly to be honest, serves no actual purpose, and from a fluff perspective who the hell builds a warship with a totally pointless space? Maybe a cult called the Blood Raiders ;-). https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-blood-raiders/ Quote: Omir has abandoned that practice, but instead his sect has started targeting cloned people, as they believe blood from clones is better suited for their freakish blood rituals. In their search for cloned people, OmirGÇÖs sect has taken to space and in few short years their frequent attacks on passenger ships and other space vessels have made them feared throughout Amarr space and far beyond. Free 3rd party services 21 day trial, you keep the whole PLEX
Canadian Fire Mighty Putty Inc 1	Posted - 2017.03.27 21:37:42 - [98] - Quote I can't really speak for the other caps, but my initial impression is that I'm not sure the dagon will provide enough of a practical improvement over the apostle to warrant actually ever using it. Maybe I'm just not seeing the intended use, but I really don't think the nos power is going to be able to hold it up the same way the bonuses on the other fax can. I suppose I'll have to wait until they're out on the test server to find out for sure.
Insidious Hax. 23	Posted - 2017.03.27 22:25:17 - [99] - Quote thats fantastic now nerf capitals
Tara Read Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 943	Posted - 2017.03.27 22:39:38 - [100] - Quote Querns wrote: Besides, just think -- if you can't carry as much in your fleet hangar, the total ISK value of your killmail will be lower. Perhaps if you optimize this well enough, you won't have to drop corp or unplug implants when you get caught doing something dumb. That was almost as funny as imagining you with a helmet and mouth guard typing this to make a funny. Congratulations you get a Pap Link.

Minty Aroma Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 73	Posted - 2017.03.27 23:00:55 - [101] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Autistic Screeching By your logic, there is no need for cargohold limitations at all - the same principle can be applied to any ship that can be used effectively in other configurations - ie: most of the ships in EVE. Some ships like the Machariel have a decent amount of space to refit for most encounters, others such as Carriers/Supers cannot carry enough for any situation, so you must plan and compromise when figuring fighter loadout, EWAR burst and tank modules; same goes for the Molek. Forward planning is a part of what makes a skillful player - instead of getting hysterical over the limitations, use your head to think a way around them to push the effectiveness of the ship to its limit.
Querns GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2816	Posted - 2017.03.27 23:05:31 - [102] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Querns wrote: Besides, just think -- if you can't carry as much in your fleet hangar, the total ISK value of your killmail will be lower. Perhaps if you optimize this well enough, you won't have to drop corp or unplug implants when you get caught doing something dumb. That was almost as funny as imagining you with a helmet and mouth guard typing this to make a funny. Congratulations you get a Pap Link. You seem awfully desperate to paint me as being subhuman. My question is, why go to the trouble? Surely the mellifluous, well-reasoned, not at all autistic screeching nature of your posting will stand alone, causing all who read to instinctively agree with you. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Mr Rive Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 145	Posted - 2017.03.27 23:38:15 - [103] - Quote Can everyone please stop yelling at each other so we can all collectively yell about how poorly the dogon tanks?? We can all agree on that :3
cutthroat kane Caldari Provisions Caldari State 5	Posted - 2017.03.27 23:54:48 - [104] - Quote The Avatar is already one of the more common titans. The Molok is just a better version of the Avatar; seems a little OP.
GOB the Magician Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 103	Posted - 2017.03.28 00:52:56 - [105] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Querns wrote: Tara Read wrote: Querns wrote: Really, now. I think you'll be fine in a PVP scenario without all the projected ECCM and reactor control units you think you might need. You'll just have to make some choices. The entitlement pile doesn't stop from getting taller around here. Lol entitlement. No one is entitled to jack. Stop trying to convey functionality for entitlement just because YOU will never fly one. The ship is plenty functional, and has adequate space. Cargohold limitations exist for a reason. Its not a cargo hold its a fleet hangar. Again because the ship is functional it needs space to carry the modules that MAKE it functional. Don't worry I'm sure in a few years you'll be able to buy more cargo space for your space vessel with microplex .
Astrid Farnsworth Broke and Famous 10	Posted - 2017.03.28 01:06:00 - [106] - Quote I know this is technical stuff but, will this ships have there own designed? Or just name and color change from other caps and fax? "Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics." - Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980strong text
Whale Sex Patriotic Tendencies Goonswarm Federation 5	Posted - 2017.03.28 01:25:30 - [107] - Quote With the addition of the Corpse Bay as being a "thing," will we also see this change on the other blood raider ships?
ight8 Patriotic Tendencies Goonswarm Federation 32	Posted - 2017.03.28 01:38:13 - [108] - Quote Every ship needs a specialized Corpse bay. This needs to be a thing.
Tuzy GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2017.03.28 01:41:21 - [109] - Quote Tara Read wrote: [quote=Querns][quote=Tara Read][quote=Querns] No you're entire groups posting history on this topic is stooped in blatant ignorance and stupidity. I've sat for hours coming up with particular refits, modules, squeezing every last drop of space out of a fleet hangar on a regular Avatar. And I am telling you in it's current state with bonuses to capital nos and neuts (meaning you'd usually have two fitted two stored) you are going to incure an increase of (wait for it) 8000 m3 due to having two of each type of NOS and Nuet. An additional 10,000 m3 due to having two racial phenomena generators, and another 5000 m3 of space for needing to carry an additional racial Doomsday. Then you need an additional 5000 m3 of empty space to refit. That is a total of 28000 additional m3 needed MINIMUM to have the Moloks capability to refit for its bonuses in a combat situation. Engage your damn brain. Your shows possessive ownership. You're means "you are".
Querns GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2816	Posted - 2017.03.28 01:52:19 - [110] - Quote Tuzy wrote: Tara Read wrote: [quote=Querns][quote=Tara Read][quote=Querns] No you're entire groups posting history on this topic is stooped in blatant ignorance and stupidity. I've sat for hours coming up with particular refits, modules, squeezing every last drop of space out of a fleet hangar on a regular Avatar. And I am telling you in it's current state with bonuses to capital nos and neuts (meaning you'd usually have two fitted two stored) you are going to incure an increase of (wait for it) 8000 m3 due to having two of each type of NOS and Nuet. An additional 10,000 m3 due to having two racial phenomena generators, and another 5000 m3 of space for needing to carry an additional racial Doomsday. Then you need an additional 5000 m3 of empty space to refit. That is a total of 28000 additional m3 needed MINIMUM to have the Moloks capability to refit for its bonuses in a combat situation. Engage your damn brain. Your shows possessive ownership. You're means "you are". Eh, cut him some slack. He was clearly flustered, and posting with turbulent emotions. Grammar and accuracy are the first to go. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

Tara Read Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 943	Posted - 2017.03.28 02:20:50 - [111] - Quote Astrid Farnsworth wrote: I know this is technical stuff but, will this ships have there own designed? Or just name and color change from other caps and fax? The models themselves will remain the same as their non faction counterparts.
light heaven JUST SET TIMES Fraternity. 9	Posted - 2017.03.28 02:21:50 - [112] - Quote I feel little disappoint about Dagon. It will feel better with 7.5% cap armor remote repair instead of 5%. And a bonus for denfend instead of an extra low slot. This will make Dagon deserve to deploy in battlefield.
FOl2TY8 Hole Violence Goonswarm Federation 115	Posted - 2017.03.28 02:24:06 - [113] - Quote cutthroat kane wrote: The Avatar is already one of the more common titans. The Molok is just a better version of the Avatar; seems a little OP. I agree, maybe a cargohold nerf?
Querns GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2816	Posted - 2017.03.28 02:41:45 - [114] - Quote The poor Molok, cut down in its prime. No longer to dream of being a clown car, host to an innumerable number of clowns, it must relegate itself to a lesser fate. An ignoble fate. We weep bitter tears as we mourn its passing. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Querns GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2816	Posted - 2017.03.28 02:51:28 - [115] - Quote I mean, you could use the corpse bay, but man, there's nothing that kills the mood faster than dead clowns. Yuck. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Retar Aveymone DJ's Retirement Fund Goonswarm Federation 1085	Posted - 2017.03.28 03:38:58 - [116] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Its not a cargo hold its a fleet hangar. Again because the ship is functional it needs space to carry the modules that MAKE it functional. do you not own keepstars or something do you need us to pass around a collection plate for your poverty-stricken faction titan havers who can't afford a keepstar to dock in to refit
Callduron Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 638	Posted - 2017.03.28 03:48:29 - [117] - Quote You had me at Dagon. I+ñ! I+ñ! Cthulhu fhtagn! I write http://stabbedup.blogspot.co.uk/ I post on reddit as /u/callduron.
Tara Read Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 943	Posted - 2017.03.28 03:53:35 - [118] - Quote Retar Aveymone wrote: Tara Read wrote: Its not a cargo hold its a fleet hangar. Again because the ship is functional it needs space to carry the modules that MAKE it functional. do you not own keepstars or something do you need us to pass around a collection plate for your poverty-stricken faction titan havers who can't afford a keepstar to dock in to refit Unlike Goons we tend to deploy on the regular. You may have seen us a few times when you were evicted from the North? Or maybe when a certain Vendetta ate crow? What about the Rorquals almost on the daily that died to us? Naw of course not you were too busy [email protected] here to defend your own space or your members. At any rate, any capital pilot with half a brain knows you refit IN COMBAT. You refit for certain situations and for adaptability. Not having the space to do so and use the Molok to its full potential is frankly a waste in even owning it in the first place. I know you guys are just trolling this thread for responses but really some of us here are actually pretty stoked at what CCP is releasing and want it to be well worth the investment and the risk when used.
Tara Read Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 943	Posted - 2017.03.28 04:21:03 - [119] - Quote So I've compiled a list of basic modules to illustrate exactly how tight the space is in regards to the Moloks fleet hangar. First we will start at 90k m3 for bare minimum refitting purposes and go from there since you need that space to refit Titan modules. This is assuming you have the following fit: x4 of either a HAW or Anti Capital class beam or pulse weapon. X1 Doomsday (can be any). And x2 Capital class nos or neuts. Mind you this is ONLY dealing with space in regards to capital sized weapons. We aren't even touching the refits you'll have with you as far as tank modules, EWAR, Charges, Fuel and other various items you would carry in a combat scenario. 1. X4 Other Energy type weapons. 4000 m3 x4: 16000 m3. 2. X1 Racial Doomsday. 8000 m3. Lets also say you use two out of the three additional Doomsday devices and carry them with you. X 2 variois DD's: 16000 m3. Total 24000 m3. 3. Phenomena Generators of both races: 16000 m3. 4. X2 other facrion capital Nos or Neut since we have 2 already fit: 8000 m3. So now that we've added up just the basic capital refits for a standard scenario with NO additional items added be it EWAR or the other items listed we have a grand total of only 26000 m3 remaining, this does not include capital capacitor booster charges or capital prop modules, heavy tackle nothing. Which leaves hardly any sort of wiggle room when it comes to the Titans usability or ability to carry proper combat refits. Let us also say you wanted to do a full neut/nos combination with said titan. You would not have enough space to even consider carrying any sort of full refit.
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1283	Posted - 2017.03.28 06:55:17 - [120] - Quote they could reduce the cargo on other capitals



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