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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2007.05.10 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Popsikle
Originally by: fugazii
Originally by: Shrike As a now professional bowler, i will say this. Gangwarping 20 capitals into a POS and do starbursts is, rather nice to look at.
However, this is broken, totally and utterly borked. It should not be possible, but, people should also be forced to use Ship Maint arrays to park a ship.
So, find us a solution where people have to use the ship array, and where we professional bowlers gets the finger.
how about instead of them having to fix it you just dont do it? not because your forced to but because you know its "broken..borked" and you want to have people come fight you. called respect for your opponents, yes i know i know, respect is earned blah blah, but you also want people to fight you right? this whole war is what you wanted, if you employ tactics that are shady and broken what invasions and large fights in the future can you honestly expect?
its fine that you play to win, so do i but using tactics such as this isnt the way to do it nor will ever actually alow you to win. sure your going to "win" this war thats evident to anyone who has 1 eye, but there will always be "ands"...you will never be able to just say "we won this war because we are better pvp'rs" you will only be able to say "we won this war because we are better pvp'rs and we cheated".
oh ya, and fit a cloak. problem solved.
IF one side stopped, the other may not, giving the other side an advantage. You cant just tell one half of a war to stop doing things because you happen to be on the other side ;(
you are 100% correct..on 1 part. one side may not stop, but there is only 1 way to find out if they would or wouldnt, and that is for you to stop and see. there would be no advantage givin to the other side to try, because after all its not like pos bowling is going on on shifts 23 hrs a day.
and no, im not on either side and i dont want 1 side to stop, i want both sides to stop. pos warfare is bad enough, this just makes it even worse. whether ccp says its cheating or not doesnt matter. if there wasnt a law against murdering people it wouldnt make going out and stabbing the first person you see a right thing to do, would it?
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Happster
Polaris Project
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Posted - 2007.05.10 08:43:00 -
[152]
Read somewhere in this long tread about BOB using two Titans to push out fleet inside a POS to snipe them...
My first thought about it was. Why not use DD, and kill all the ships in one go?
Bowl and DD...nice mix.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.14 15:51:00 -
[153]
select all in array, launch
i did that once and it makes quite some bowling :p ------
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.14 15:59:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Farham
Quote: All you need to know is a bob carrier was killed. How it was done, is down to the ppl fighting on the frontlines to know.
I will take that as a yes. If you look at the context of this thread you know why the question is rather pertinent.
Not really, Farham. They do it, we do it, I dont' think anyone knows who started it first, nor do we care, it's part of the game as we accept it, or until it gets changed. It brings another dimension to sitting in a pos, no longer can you do so afk with impunity... and thank god for that.
What we found most amusing is that the carrier died, quite literally, 1s before dt. Never before have I seen a kill come quite so close. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
Farham
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.14 16:06:00 -
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I wasn't trying to rub the incident in anyone's face. The fact it happened this morning proves that all sides do it but I will still poke back and say anything that happens as a result of bad coding can't ever be a good thing for the game.
I am also a full believer in the idea that if you kick my rear end straight up, more power to you. I just seriously dislike "cheesy" ways of taking a beating.
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Karim alRashid
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.14 16:25:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Farham
The fact it happened this morning proves that all sides do it
I have the impression that one side had the ethics to not do it untill it was declared legal. Am I wrong?
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.14 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Farham
I wasn't trying to rub the incident in anyone's face. The fact it happened this morning proves that all sides do it but I will still poke back and say anything that happens as a result of bad coding can't ever be a good thing for the game.
I am also a full believer in the idea that if you kick my rear end straight up, more power to you. I just seriously dislike "cheesy" ways of taking a beating.
Sure, it's a vicious circle, bad implementation of even good ideas ultimately leads to bad gameplay, no one does (nor can, or should) dispute that... which is all great to say in the development forums, but this is caod, so suuuuuuuuuuure you weren't trying to rub it in anyones face... ;)
We managed to get a carrier that cyno'd in to even the score a little bit and, as I said above, POS have been the lamer and smacktalkers heaven for far too long now, it's funny to see one broken mechanic giving us the ability to counter another (imo) broken mechanic.
- + - = + and all that :D Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.14 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Karim alRashid
Originally by: Farham
The fact it happened this morning proves that all sides do it
I have the impression that one side had the ethics to not do it untill it was declared legal. Am I wrong?
That's right, we didn't do it until the gms' said it was legal, thanks for noting it. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
Karim alRashid
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.14 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Karim alRashid
Originally by: Farham
The fact it happened this morning proves that all sides do it
I have the impression that one side had the ethics to not do it untill it was declared legal. Am I wrong?
That's right, we didn't do it until the gms' said it was legal, thanks for noting it.
Thank you. Do we have opinions from the other side ?
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Ozzie Asrail
Exploited
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Posted - 2007.05.14 16:45:00 -
[160]
Please be respectful to other players - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) -----
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Gallente Caliente
Anti-BoB Flash Mob
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Posted - 2007.05.14 18:10:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Karim alRashid
Originally by: Farham
The fact it happened this morning proves that all sides do it
I have the impression that one side had the ethics to not do it untill it was declared legal. Am I wrong?
That's right, we didn't do it until the gms' said it was legal, thanks for noting it.
Lies. ----------------------------------------------- www.nobob.info |
Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.14 19:48:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Gallente Caliente
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Karim alRashid
Originally by: Farham
The fact it happened this morning proves that all sides do it
I have the impression that one side had the ethics to not do it untill it was declared legal. Am I wrong?
That's right, we didn't do it until the gms' said it was legal, thanks for noting it.
Lies.
Let's put it a slightly different way. We didn't do it whilst we thought it wasn't legal.
You can accuse me of also being a liar if you wish, but it does nothing to discredit the validity of my statement. Wild finger pointing and stomping of feet, whilst certainly attention grabbing, a reasoned arguement does not make.
If you want to shout about GM bias, and other such nonsense, I positively encourage you to do so. Maybe we could compare notes between the information given to Shrike, and that given to Evil Thug. One of those two was told that everything is cool, and they can bowl away to their hearts content. Clear proof that CCP favour one side over the other, right?
Also, let me clear up your poor use of rhetoric while I am here.
An accusation of "lies" would require you to have proof that the contrary position is true. What you actually mean is "I don't believe you", which is more a statement of your ignorance, and thus far more accurate.
If you want to waste your time trolling on the forums, a small amount of effort may actually bring you more success, and may give you a greater feeling of accomplishment.
You can thank me later.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Elspeth Vigneron
Caldari Phoenix Logistics Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.14 19:53:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Fubarski
Originally by: Grimster
Last time I checked you could anchor more than 1 ship maint array - did they change that?
I think titans should just ignore passords, force fields, and the like anyway. Let em dock with the station!
Hey, we could do this with ALL the capital ships, it'd be even better gameplay.
In fact, I think once you're inside the shield bubble, even if you're hostile, any guns should stop firing at you. Hell, you got in, right? You *must* be allowed.
Oooh, and Titans and supercaps should have a T1 module that raises a HUUUUUUGE frickin flag on it, and makes a permanent monument in a system that says "Mine". It'll establish Sov, until it's destroyed.
Give the flag... err, monument 99.99% (99.999 would have been too much, I did the math) resists to all, and somewhere along the lines of 8 million shield, 8 million armor, and 8 million structure points.
Hey, we can make the flag racially marked by the race of ship it pops from, thereby setting sov for not only your alliance, but also earning you points, and fabulous prizes from empire factions!
There. One patch, everything will be fixed. Won't have to deal with the slow spiral into mediocrity, won't have to deal with having any semblance of hope, that maybe, somewhere, someone will fix something... just have to reach over, and hit "cancel subscription" and go watch a sunrise.
Fubarski
You win this thread. Phoenix Logistics Industries |
Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.14 20:12:00 -
[164]
Bumping is fun
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Xarax
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.14 20:20:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Evil Thug Bumping is fun
LIES!!!!!
Only BoB pilots use the unethical technique!!!! _______
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Gallente Caliente
Anti-BoB Flash Mob
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:06:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Avon
An accusation of "lies" would require you to have proof that the contrary position is true. What you actually mean is "I don't believe you", which is more a statement of your ignorance, and thus far more accurate.
If you want to waste your time trolling on the forums, a small amount of effort may actually bring you more success, and may give you a greater feeling of accomplishment.
You can thank me later.
Proof is never required and quite optional in the forum PVP BoB has basically championed. All you have to do is twist and twist and twist.
As far as I'm concerned Evil Thug and all others now have a free ticket to ride. A ticket purchased by BoB. A golden ticket if you will. Mmmm chocolate... ----------------------------------------------- www.nobob.info |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:11:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Avon
We didn't do it whilst we thought it wasn't legal.
Thats true, POS bowling IS legal. So is scamming markets, logging of while cloaked at gates, and a whole bunch of other dirty tactics. Does that mean we all have to do it? You claim to be the best pvp'rs, but it is becoming clear as to how you achieve it
Shouldn't you guys be trying to clean up your image instead of inventing new ways to break flawed code Sig removed...coz like, you know sometimes I pirate...no, not pirating..err defending the gurista..yes that's the one |
Darkstar BP
Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:23:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Dianabolic
That's right, we didn't do it until the gms' said it was legal, thanks for noting it.
Which GM, Dice's, BNC's, TAOSP's, Evolution's or RKK's? Signature removed. Please email us at [email protected] if you would like to know why. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) |
Pilgrippa
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:42:00 -
[169]
I can't help but wonder when a mothership pilot is gonna accidentally board one of the ships that he/she bumped, get blown up by the pos, and have his/her ride stolen.
(I'm not jealous)
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elohllird
Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:54:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Darkstar BP
Originally by: Dianabolic
That's right, we didn't do it until the gms' said it was legal, thanks for noting it.
Which GM, Dice's, BNC's, TAOSP's, Evolution's or RKK's?
Such wit Darkstar, you must have thought long and hard about that witty reply
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.14 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Let's put it a slightly different way. We didn't do it whilst we thought it wasn't legal.
So..in other words...you discovered a game mechanic that you thought you could exploit, and until someone else caught you and the GM's began to question its validity, you used it as much as you could. Then you took a temporary hiatus while the uproar considered it illegal, and are now back to doing it cuz CCP won't ban you for it.
Way to take the moral high ground. But hey, anything that gets you the win, right? Isn't that what Bob is based on?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.05.14 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: x bunny Isn't ramming a valid and known naval tactic ? Why it should be considered an exploit ?
Yes and it's also a valid and known fact that ships ramming another can and often do take damage doing this. It's however not know that a ship has moved another for miles keeping it intact to be salvaged by the own forces.
Collision damage now!
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.14 22:12:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Darkstar BP
Originally by: Dianabolic
That's right, we didn't do it until the gms' said it was legal, thanks for noting it.
Which GM, Dice's, BNC's, TAOSP's, Evolution's or RKK's?
The same ones that helped ASCN put up the first outpost, so far from anywhere and with absolutely no bugs whatsoever (because, there were none, right...?) Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
Ariella Macha
Pulsar Productions Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.14 23:06:00 -
[174]
More POS bowling in action, this time with four titans flying in formation.
Bowling
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Byzan Zwyth
Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.14 23:32:00 -
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sounds like a cool feature though I'm going to have to whip over to a couple of POS and secure my ships ---------------------- Rank: Tech 1 and a 1/2 cannon fodder
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nickky01
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.14 23:35:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Ariella Macha More POS bowling in action, this time with four titans flying in formation.
Bowling
sorry for being a noob at "pos bowling" but could one of the "bowlers" (i.e. titan owners) please explain if that was a strike or a split??
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Galactic Overlord
CAOD Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.15 07:50:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Ariella Macha More POS bowling in action, this time with four titans flying in formation.
Bowling
Ah yes, let's all enjoy the show and gaze at the joke BoB has made of alliance warfare. PHEAR THE AWESOME POWER OF THE TITANS AND MOTHERSHIPS AS THEY BOUNCE IN AND OUT OF SHIELDS ATTACKING AND STEALING EMPTY SHIPS WITH NO OPPOSITION!!!
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Darkwolfi
Conisor Excavations Syndicate Antagonistic Assembly
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Posted - 2007.05.18 23:38:00 -
[178]
Well they have to do something usefull with their time while they wait for their DD to recharge.
Just decrease the recharge time on DD and i think we will not see so much more bowling in the future..
But in some weird funny way i will not get into detail with it's quite funny to watch pos bowling..
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Resipsa Loquitor
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.19 03:25:00 -
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Edited by: Resipsa Loquitor on 19/05/2007 03:24:58
Originally by: Galactic Overlord
Originally by: Ariella Macha More POS bowling in action, this time with four titans flying in formation.
Bowling
Ah yes, let's all enjoy the show and gaze at the joke BoB has made of alliance warfare. PHEAR THE AWESOME POWER OF THE TITANS AND MOTHERSHIPS AS THEY BOUNCE IN AND OUT OF SHIELDS ATTACKING AND STEALING EMPTY SHIPS WITH NO OPPOSITION!!!
Ok.
<watches video>
Yeah, that was pretty funny! Thanks for pointing that out to me!
NA tz folks usually only hear about this kinda stuff - nice to see them in action. ---
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Royaldo
KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.19 15:00:00 -
[180]
oh well... dunno what ccp are thinking.
would have been nice to see them grow a pair for once and not run away from subjects like this.
but they would rather smack people in the boost-the-new-regions-thread or tell us how much money they lose every month on banning cheaters.
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