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Samsonknight Caldari WhiteRoseShadow	Posted - 2007.11.04 18:50:00 - [151] After all that, is it worth it?
Wynsdae	Posted - 2007.11.15 02:53:00 - [152] Few questions: 1. If I am understanding this correctly, the multi-spec probe will(?) pick up the generic encounter sites that the on-board scanner is normally used for and show them as Unknown results? 2. What is the respawn time of sites? For example, lets say I log on and drop a multi-spec probe, and only get an Unknown result when I'm looking for hidden mining belts (that would be a Gravometric result I think.) Well, if someone just finished mining out a hidden belt say, 30 minutes before I started, what kind of time frame and I looking at where it might be worth it to run another multispec looking for a Grav result? 3. Is the onboard scanner a 100% chance to find the non-exploration sites, or do I have to run it over and over again at each planet in the chance that I missed a possible site? Thanks in advance.
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.15 04:27:00 - [153] Edited by: ViolenTUK on 15/11/2007 04:29:41 Originally by: Wynsdae Few questions: 1. If I am understanding this correctly, the multi-spec probe will(?) pick up the generic encounter sites that the on-board scanner is normally used for and show them as Unknown results? 2. What is the respawn time of sites? For example, lets say I log on and drop a multi-spec probe, and only get an Unknown result when I'm looking for hidden mining belts (that would be a Gravometric result I think.) Well, if someone just finished mining out a hidden belt say, 30 minutes before I started, what kind of time frame and I looking at where it might be worth it to run another multispec looking for a Grav result? 3. Is the onboard scanner a 100% chance to find the non-exploration sites, or do I have to run it over and over again at each planet in the chance that I missed a possible site? Thanks in advance. 1. Yes. 2. Unknown. As far as i can tell they are calculated after downtime. 3. As far as i can see it is 100% of finding encounter sites but little chance of anything else. www.eve-players.com
Wynsdae	Posted - 2007.11.15 04:36:00 - [154] Thanks Violen
Saresity	Posted - 2007.11.15 06:06:00 - [155] I have one question. How do the scan strength implants affect the signal strength formula.
Hoshi Blackguard Brigade Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.15 06:23:00 - [156] Originally by: Eisen Hammer What is the most valueable thing you ever got from a hacking site? and from an archsal site? Hacking: 4 run ship interface bpc. At the time it happen it was about 1b profit. Archsal: 4 run CCC II bpc. 600m profit at that time. Note that the profit for both of these have dropped a lot since then should you get them today. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Hoshi Blackguard Brigade Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.15 06:26:00 - [157] Originally by: Saresity I have one question. How do the scan strength implants affect the signal strength formula. Signal Strength after implant = Signal strength * 1.01/1.03/1.05 (depending on which implant). ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Lyta Reimalken Minmatar No Fear Buccaneers	Posted - 2007.11.28 19:22:00 - [158] It may be a silly question, but how do you stop yourself from going clinically insane when scanning a site down in a system where there is also an unknown :( Im scanning for signiatures rather than anomalies, and yet every hit i get is on one of those encounter sites. I know the site in question is there, and am wondering if im doing something obvious wrong :(
JJ McHawker BazCo	Posted - 2007.12.10 12:40:00 - [159] Originally by: Lyta Reimalken It may be a silly question, but how do you stop yourself from going clinically insane when scanning a site down in a system where there is also an unknown :( Im scanning for signiatures rather than anomalies, and yet every hit i get is on one of those encounter sites. I know the site in question is there, and am wondering if im doing something obvious wrong :( I doubt you are doing anything wrong - it's just that some sites can take a very long time to find. I'm trying to work out whether this post is before or after the change where Unknowns became Anomolies got their own scan type? Ultimately, you can just ignore the Unknown sigs if you know that you are looking for something the Multi specifically found. But, I know what you mean about going insane.. I've often got to the point where I've wondered what I did wrong - having been promised a Grav by the Multi, I set about trying to find it and have had zero joy for hours. I find myself going back to the Multi as a sanity check and just starting again. Sometimes, you'll get just one result confirming a Deadspace sig has been found, but it'll then seemingly vanish afterwards once you move to the spot where you got a weak signature. I'm using Grav as my example because I believe they are harder to track down. As stated in the original guide, having something else to do is a good idea. I have a countdown timer app that I run to alert me when each scan has finished and get on with other things like cooking / eating / reading mail / surfing / TV during extended periods of scanning. JJ
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.12.10 15:35:00 - [160] Thanks for the great guide, much appreciated!

JJ McHawker BazCo	Posted - 2007.12.14 10:33:00 - [161] Originally by: Eisen Hammer What is the most valueable thing you ever got from a hacking site? and from an archsal site? To revisit this question, last night I set out to do some scanning and see if anything was majorly different or broken since the Trinity update... I employed my usual tactic of plotting a course through a set of 0.5 systems, with the Multi probes finding only empty systems or Unknown encounter sites. I ignored a Gravimetric signature as I didn't want to do any mining. Eventually, I ran out of 0.5 systems and was still empty handed, so having checked the map statistics to gauge whether it was safe, I dipped into a 0.4 and instantly found a Radar site! I dropped a set of Radar Quest probes around the system and got a weak lock on the Radar on the first scan! Half-a-dozen Radar Sift scans later, I turned up a stronger signal and a dozen Comb scans later I had my lock and was able to visit the Exploration site and bookmark it. I then parked my Covert Ops ship and switched to a Battlecruiser. The Radar site consisted of 6 hacking cans (Data Shards and Cores, I think?) positioned as 3 pairs about 50k from each other. As I approached each pair, a set of Blood rats were triggered - maybe 6 frigates + 6 cruisers each time; nothing my Drake couldn't handle. The main loot from the hacking cans were 2x Amarr Encryption Methods skillbooks - worth roughly 100M each. There were also some invention parts and of course the bounty, booty and salvage from the rats. All-in-all, that site was worth roughly 250M.. not bad for only a couple of hours work! JJ
djenghis jan Amarr Debiloff's Vanguard	Posted - 2007.12.14 11:08:00 - [162] I am wondering if having astrometric triangulation on lvl5 is really worth the training time when it comes to finding the kind of exploration sites where the good loot is? Do you have the skill on lvl5?
JJ McHawker BazCo	Posted - 2007.12.14 23:38:00 - [163] Originally by: djenghis jan I am wondering if having astrometric triangulation on lvl5 is really worth the training time when it comes to finding the kind of exploration sites where the good loot is? Do you have the skill on lvl5? I don't have Triangulation to 5 - only to 4. In fact, I don't have any of the scanning skills to 5 - they are all at 4 - because I personally don't think the commitment is worth it. I don't think it's worth approx. 20 days to do Triangulation 5 for another +5% scan strength, or Pinpointing 5 for -10% scan deviation. Signal Acquisition 5 would be worth it for -10% scan time, but that's 30 days! The skill I am considering doing to 5 is Covert Ops - a mere 18 days - which yields the same -10% scan time as Signal Acquisition, plus hugely benefits the rest of the ship by lowering the Cov Ops Cloaking Device fitting requirements. JJ
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.12.15 00:14:00 - [164] Originally by: JJ McHawker All-in-all, that site was worth roughly 250M.. not bad for only a couple of hours work! LOL. Enjoy that 250mil moment. Prices are dropping with every day that goes by. Encryption skills will probably level out around 5-10mil max in a few weeks. And prices on parts and interfaces will plummet. Supply has vastly outstripped demand. Within a month you probably be making 1/10th of that on the same haul. Not necessarily a bad thing imo. Keeps invention moving and new ships/items cheap. Taxman IV: Rogue Agent
JJ McHawker BazCo	Posted - 2007.12.16 01:30:00 - [165] Has anyone else noticed that Trinity brought with it a new set of scanning-related modules and implants, as below: - Sisters Scan Probe Launchers: 450s base time (instead of 600 sec) - Sisters Scan Probes: +10% Signal Strength - Virtue Implant Set: Like LG Snakes, but for Scan Probe Signal Strength - Sisters Hardwiring: Boosts to Probe Signal Strength and reductions in Cycle Time The Launcher is particularly interesting - offering a huge saving in scan times! They're just hitting Contracts, so the price hasn't settled down yet, but at the time of writing they're roughly 60-100M. JJ
voxen Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.12.23 00:10:00 - [166] Originally by: Hugh Ruka Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 29/10/2007 12:08:17 [snip] EDIT: I seem to have problems with the MAP. When using Solarsystem Map for a while (i.e. deploying probes), my Star Map gets bugged. It does only show a black screen. Only Solarsystem Map remains usable. I have to close and relaunch the client to fix this. Anybody else had this problem ? Maybe it's only my card/settings issue. Yes, it's a known bug, but please bugreport it anyway.
5lick	Posted - 2007.12.27 16:10:00 - [167] Interpreting Results Quote: If you think a system's taking too long, then by all means go elsewhere, but the site is there to find, somewhere. If it's hard to find it's often also very valuable/difficult, so it's up to you whether or not to keep trying. You may also need to rework your probe placement - scan strength decreases as you get further from the probe, so if you have one probe covering two planets, consider shifting it to the other planet to give it some more loving. Hey, Could someone help me out with understanding this from the OP: scan strength decreases as you get further from the probe Does that mean if I drop a Quest probe at Planet 1, then warp to Planet 11 and drop another Quest probe... The scan strenght on my Quest probe at Planet 1 will be weak, and the scan strenght at Planet 11 will be at it's peak since I'm there with the probe? Thanks for the help.
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.12.27 17:10:00 - [168] Originally by: 5lick Interpreting Results Quote: If you think a system's taking too long, then by all means go elsewhere, but the site is there to find, somewhere. If it's hard to find it's often also very valuable/difficult, so it's up to you whether or not to keep trying. You may also need to rework your probe placement - scan strength decreases as you get further from the probe, so if you have one probe covering two planets, consider shifting it to the other planet to give it some more loving. Hey, Could someone help me out with understanding this from the OP: scan strength decreases as you get further from the probe Does that mean if I drop a Quest probe at Planet 1, then warp to Planet 11 and drop another Quest probe... The scan strenght on my Quest probe at Planet 1 will be weak, and the scan strenght at Planet 11 will be at it's peak since I'm there with the probe? Thanks for the help. It's just poorly worded. What it should say is ..."scan strength decreases the further the probe is away from the site...". Your ship's position has nothing to do with it. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Exlegion Caldari New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:35:00 - [169] Great read! . You've motivated me in looking into exploration. Good job. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Brutal Psycho Amarr East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.19 11:41:00 - [170] I would definately add the "Sisters Scan Probe Luncher" to the list of wants!! Great guide. Thanks!

Ferrosa Gallente GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.13 12:22:00 - [171] Originally by: Eisen Hammer What is the most valueable thing you ever got from a hacking site? and from an archsal site? Well, I'll tell you what we found two days ago. A corpmate of mine found a nice plex (actual plex, not just deadspace) and he scanned about one and a half to two hours for it. We decided to do the plex with some corpies, we had five guys. I tanked in my Hyperion, a myrmidon was my 'logistics' (yes, seems wierd but myrm is actually pretty good at remote repping, it was an alt of ours) and we had a blasterdeimos, rokh and dominix for extra DPS. At the first warpin point, we encountered a lot of BS and BC, one of which was a 7M dread guristas bs. We thought we were lucky and started pounding the rats... Ten minutes later they were all wiped out and our deimos afterburned his way to the dread guristas wreckage... The loot was pretty good, we had a Dread Guristas Invulnerability field, which goes for 250-350M in Jita. After that, one of our gang members (probably the one that had finishing blow on last rat) got a message saying we had to go somewhere and kill off some other guristas scum (just like in a mission, it came up in his expeditions tab). So we yelled, YEA! Escalation! Fortunately, the next system was near a jumpbridge of ours so we could just jumpbridge there and I warped to the gang member with the bookmark (only the one that received the message gets the bookmark in his tab it seems). I started tanking again and saw another Dread Guristas BS, this time he was about 8-9M I think. We started getting really excited :-) The loot that dropped from that BS was a DG shield boost amp. Pretty good loot again, around 200M I think. After that, we got another (!) escalation message and thus, we went to the next system (it was about 7 jumps away, but we had jump bridge not far from it :) ). There we did the same thing, this time it was a 10-12M bounty on the Dread Guristas BS. We got a DG multispec and an active DG kinetic shield hardener (61.125% kin res i think). After that, we got a final escalation message, back to the first system. We went there, didn't see a dread guristas, but one of the BS rats was an officer! Now we were tripping :) We got an x-type large shield booster which is pretty damn nice :) So, all in all that plex brought around 1B ISK in loot/bounty to our group... We divided the loot by four (since the 5th member was an alt) so we each got around 250M out of that plex... And it was loads of fun! Please note that I didnt really have trouble, except for the 3rd escalation, which was really testing my tank and my buddy's myrmidon repping power... With an oneiros, it would have been no problem. So it wasn't that hard tank-wise. The payoff was very nice, and we could have done it in about 3 hours if we did it with the deimos and hyperion (+ oneiros then)... Now we did it in one hour and a half, maybe two hours, which is also nice :) Hope this gives you some more info... Keep scanning! ps: I just scanned with a multispec today in my home system and found an unknown. I dropped 6 radar quest probes on several planets and had a 13.2 signal strength lock on a deadspace after the first scan. I warped there in my covop, bookmarked, came back in brutix and killed about 4 spawns of mixed BS, BC, missile batteries and frigs... Gave me around 20M in bounties. So not that bad either and little effort/skills required. And more fun than ratting!
Cersei 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.02.29 03:00:00 - [172] Originally by: Hoshi Here is some info that was posted in the game dev section. A non finished site will despawn 48h after the last visit. Revisiting it during that time will reset the despawn timer to another 48h. Non finished Base 4 radar sites will despawn <30 minutes after last visit :(
Ganre Sorc	Posted - 2008.03.05 02:20:00 - [173] Edited by: Ganre Sorc on 05/03/2008 02:20:50 I am having a bit of a problem with the Combat sites. A friend and I started doing them today, and i was supposed to be tanking. He can't seem to warp us both from the journal, so he warped in, and i followed, and he warped out to pass the tank. As soon as he leaves, all the BSs despawn, leaving crap for the rats. we figure, maybe it was a bug, and move on to the next site, this one had a gate, we pop the cruisers guarding the gate, and i go through first. There were at least 30 ships in the room. i start to shoot to draw fire as my friend warps in, as soon as he entered the room, the BSes despawn. Are we doing something wrong?
EvilSpork Invicta.	Posted - 2008.03.05 04:22:00 - [174] Originally by: Ferrosa ps: I just scanned with a multispec today in my home system and found an unknown. I dropped 6 radar quest probes on several planets and had a 13.2 signal strength lock on a deadspace after the first scan. I warped there in my covop, bookmarked, came back in brutix and killed about 4 spawns of mixed BS, BC, missile batteries and frigs... Gave me around 20M in bounties. So not that bad either and little effort/skills required. And more fun than ratting! that is NOT exploration content really. that is a cosmic anomaly. a real deadspace exploration plex will never have a signal strength that high. be sure you have the right category selected in your scanner
Cybelee Gods Unwanted	Posted - 2008.03.18 08:32:00 - [175] Joerd Toastius, i would like to ask your permission if i could publish this on my Eve fan site found here, Eve Online Fan My Eve Site: Eve Online Fan
Ekir Atari Ordo Quaesitoris	Posted - 2008.03.19 03:05:00 - [176] Geez... they should make this a little less intuitive for people trying to learn it.
turbocrazy1989 Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.04.07 03:27:00 - [177] Edited by: turbocrazy1989 on 07/04/2008 03:28:23 Just some FYI, the people in the exploration channel has some really unhelpful douchbags.... here is some helpful stuff that I would like to share... Helpful scanning links: -Link to this post -Nice IGB guide, also works outside game shows a good listing of equip. -Video of how to use probes Probe strengths: Quest: 4AU Persuit: 2AU Comb: 1AU Sift: .5AU Targeting Systems: Minmatar - Ladar Caldari - Gravimetric Gallente - Magnetometric Amarr - Radar
bornite	Posted - 2008.04.29 21:28:00 - [178] for the record, cytocerin is properly spelled "cytoserocin" this confused me for awhile when I tried to learn about gas cloud mining.
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.05.13 00:02:00 - [179] <bumping this> Mods: I hope you don't mind. I'm just doing it because the older version (1.5) of this guide keeps getting necro'd. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Shemsu Mordus Dead Gnoll's Eye Socket	Posted - 2008.05.13 18:41:00 - [180] Originally by: Joerd Toastius Joerd's Guide v2.0 Awesome Guide! Thanks a ton, this has been very helpful.



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