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Driven
Caldari Mass Produced Venturi Starea
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:12:00 -
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May I please be the 1475th player to say:
"Can I have ur stuff?"
Seriously don't quit. You'll regret it!
I remember once, I lost an ibis loaded with trit, flying AFK to 4C-B7X. Boy was I mad!
But I got over it. Now, I am gainfully employed and can cheerfully repeat "You wanna biggie-size that?" over 500 times in a row without lisping.
Part of the evil Tech 2 BPO cartel |

The Pointless
Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: The Pointless on 26/05/2007 02:14:02
Originally by: Cammulos Highsec does not guarantee the immortality of your ship, just the eventuality that anyone who attacks you in highsec will lose theirs. Its a PvP game after-all, so... don't be daft mmmk. 
So tell me this: when I go into low-sec, I get warned that CONCORD cannot guarantee my safety there. Kinda gives you the impression that your safety is guaranteed in high-sec, don't you think.
I think CONCORD needs to spank harder. And make insurance void when spanked by CONCORD. 
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"And I scream in a thousand voices!" |

Speedy Banana
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:14:00 -
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2007.05.26 01:20
Victim: Undercover Palmtree Alliance: W A S T E L A N D Corp: Death Grip Industries Destroyed: Iteron Mark III System: Niarja Security: 0.5
Involved parties:
Name: SamtheDog (laid the final blow) Security: 4.3 Alliance: The Cartel. Corp: Singularity. Ship: Brutix Weapon: Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I
Destroyed items:
Mark I Modified SS Expanded Cargo (Cargo) Overdrive Injector System I Overdrive Injector System I Warp Disruptor II, Qty: 5 (Cargo) Stasis Webifier II, Qty: 7 (Cargo) Prototype Cloaking Device I, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Power Diagnostic System II, Qty: 8 (Cargo) Cap Recharger II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Capacitor Power Relay II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) 350mm Railgun II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Cruise Missile Launcher II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Large Armor Repairer II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) 800mm Repeating Artillery II (Cargo) Siege Missile Launcher II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Overdrive Injector System II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) 100MN Afterburner II (Cargo)
No see my problem is not that high sec is not secure, it's that thanks to insurance losing a battleship to concord costs almost nothing. Infact, carrying anything over 20 mil in my cargo means somebody can turn a profit from losing a 100+ mil battleship. That's great game design right there. A system that rewards people who grief other people... such a strong foundation.
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Ixianus
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:14:00 -
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Everyone always has some smart "Ohh I cry for you" response, and always without fail its ohh so entertaining.
What everyone fails to realize apparently is that each person who posts a grievance is in fact representing a percentage of eve's current, past, and future population. If one person has quit over it, then its quite easy to assume another has or will, thus adding up to a certain percentage of the overall population.
Devote a little bit of thought to your post before you copy paste the usual "lolz noob" into everything.
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Fayn Trak
Gallente Myridian Trading Systems
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:15:00 -
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Wait what, 150 million inside your first two weeks, you'r well out ahead of the curve on making isk, yet you're quitting becasue of lost isk?
Is there that much more money washing around than when I started or are you doing something outside of the box?
A herd of cattle A flock of geese A lot of isk remember when sigs were text? |

IonHammer
Minmatar Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Driven May I please be the 1475th player to say:
"Can I have ur stuff?"
Seriously don't quit. You'll regret it!
I remember once, I lost an ibis loaded with trit, flying AFK to 4C-B7X. Boy was I mad!
But I got over it. Now, I am gainfully employed and can cheerfully repeat "You wanna biggie-size that?" over 500 times in a row without lisping.
now driven when u leave please let me have your stuff, cause i am sure by now its quite a lot.
RE the noob you made a mistake bud get over yourself, and stop blaming people for your own dumb mistake.
If thats your real life i'm very jealous - Petwraith |

Sorum Daemoth
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:20:00 -
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go play world of warcraft where you dont lose anything when you die, now thats excitement
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Speedy Banana
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:20:00 -
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The problem is you need isk to make isk. I need 100 million to make 20-30 mil profit. with 4 mil ill make 800k-1.2mil profit. Which is basically like starting all over again. And for what really? To run into another expliot down that line, where a bunch of idiots will just tell me "ohh ya you should have (somehow) known about that and not done this or that" ?
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hellhathnofury
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Speedy Banana 2007.05.26 01:20 Destroyed items:
Mark I Modified SS Expanded Cargo (Cargo) Overdrive Injector System I Overdrive Injector System I Warp Disruptor II, Qty: 5 (Cargo) Stasis Webifier II, Qty: 7 (Cargo) Prototype Cloaking Device I, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Power Diagnostic System II, Qty: 8 (Cargo) Cap Recharger II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Capacitor Power Relay II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) 350mm Railgun II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Cruise Missile Launcher II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Large Armor Repairer II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) 800mm Repeating Artillery II (Cargo) Siege Missile Launcher II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Overdrive Injector System II, Qty: 2 (Cargo) 100MN Afterburner II (Cargo)
Well, he's quite clearly reselling T2 equipment. If he had any sense he'd realise that this is just one of those rubbish things that you only find out about when it's too late, dust himself off and get back to earning 10 times more than what most people earn at that game age. You never know...
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Sorum Daemoth
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:21:00 -
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umm, missions?
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Barbarellas Daughter
Lonely Barbarella
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Barbarellas Daughter on 26/05/2007 02:21:59
Originally by: Speedy Banana Edited by: Speedy Banana on 26/05/2007 02:02:00 Edited by: Speedy Banana on 26/05/2007 01:57:43
Originally by: Necrosmith Wow, you're stupid.
You don't carry $100,000 in cash around the bad part of town do you?
Ohh you wan't realistic comprisons? Ok ill give you a realistic one. I'm walking down the street with 150 million in my pocket, with police officers right beside me. Somebody shoots me, and the cops shoot him. We're both dead. Now his friend comes and picks up the 75 million that's left on my corpse, which happens to be 2 feet away from the police, but they don't do anything.
All CCP would have to do is make concord destroy anyone who touches that wreck. This would completely eliminate the stupidity of suacide ganking. But hey.. then again, this game was built from the very start to **** people off more then entertain. Hence the reason why there about as many people playing runescape as there are playing EVE.
well, concord isnt the police. they wont act just for stealing, only for shooting. how else could you steal from jet cans? (almost) perfect system imo. get used to it.
edit: also listen to aurora carefully!
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Jikx Everproud
ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cammulos
I think CONCORD needs to spank harder. And make insurance void when spanked by CONCORD. 
Yes, this is the solution, but make insurance void ONLY if the target is destroyed. --- I'm doing my part too! |

Driven
Caldari Mass Produced Venturi Starea
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:30:00 -
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I'm not leaving. You can't make me.
Besides, I already bought my tickets and airfare to fanfest and everything.
I wanna meet Oveur and give him a big ole kiss!!
Part of the evil Tech 2 BPO cartel |

Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jikx Everproud Why? Simply because theere is virtually -NOTHING- you can do about triple BS suiciding on a hauler. Nothing.
You can transport not enough stuff to make it an attractive suicidiegank target. Or use a tanked deep space transport.
You might as well complain that a Rifter can do -NOTHING- against a domi.
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Speedy Banana
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: Jikx Everproud Why? Simply because theere is virtually -NOTHING- you can do about triple BS suiciding on a hauler. Nothing.
You can transport not enough stuff to make it an attractive suicidiegank target. Or use a tanked deep space transport.
You might as well complain that a Rifter can do -NOTHING- against a domi.
I think we already established here that thanks to insurance, if I carry anything over 20 mil, somebody can make a profit by suacide ganking. Tanked transport or not, I highly doubt you are going to stand up to 3 battleships fitted with close range weapons. Especially since concord takes so long to arrive that you're dead before any help arives.
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JitaCitizen 72395
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Posted - 2007.05.26 02:53:00 -
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When I have some spare ISK, I like to grief the griefers by sending along a NPC-corp alt in a frigate to escort my paper-thin hauler. They suicide-pop my hauler, I suicide-pop the can. It's great fun knowing that after waiting so long for the right target, they need to fit out new gear and eat that loss for nothing.
But when I'm transporting seriously important cargo nothing beats a Prorator with 4 WCS.
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SULAN BARHIR
United League of Independents
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:06:00 -
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I feel for you man... Eve-mail me ingame. |

Magnum III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:08:00 -
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You made 150 mil of stuff in the 1st two weeks?
That is good playing IMO.
You just need to protect your self better and you could be a great player in EVE.
It took me much longer and I play alot. And I'm not bad either.
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Cyan Gadarin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:17:00 -
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Seriously, the only thing you can do against high sec gankers is to have another alt with another industrial right behind the first one, so you just pick up the remaining loot when the BS'es are destroyed >.< ●████▅▅▄▄▄▄▄▄▄....▄▄▄ ▄▄▅██████▅π |

Aaron
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:21:00 -
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LOL, sorry dude its just the sarcastic tone in your typing thats really makin me laugh..
I find it funny that players go to the trouble of getting 3 BS just to gank a hauler and then get ganked themselves, lol.
Dude, keep doing what ur doing, and never spend lots on a hauler, use alts to check out the systems ahead of you.
Some of you are being hard on the developers, being a database programmer myself I understand that sometimes there are problems on large databases, and its not just a straight forward thing to sort out.
In my opinion this is one of the best games ever, and im happy to pay for it.
Unfortunatley there will always be a small group of people that annoy the hell out of reasonable folk like us.
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Sgt Blade
Save Yourself Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:25:00 -
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transport stuff in secure containers... putting a Pass Word on them would simply mean yes tehy ca suicide gank your ship buy they cant pick up your loot,
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:26:00 -
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Edited by: Aramendel on 26/05/2007 03:29:05
Originally by: Speedy Banana I think we already established here that thanks to insurance, if I carry anything over 20 mil, somebody can make a profit by suacide ganking. Tanked transport or not, I highly doubt you are going to stand up to 3 battleships fitted with close range weapons. Especially since concord takes so long to arrive that you're dead before any help arives.
Half the stuff usually pops, so you need around twice that. Then you want also actually get some profit for this (no, people do not do that "just to grief"), so I would say 50 mil cargo worth at the very minimum.
Oh, and the tanked Impel of my alt has 7266 armor and passive resistances between 75% and 87%. Transported cargo worth more than 1 bil multiple times already into jita with it. Never was attacked, but I am prety sure it can survive 5 BS ganging on it till concord kills them.
Originally by: Sgt Blade transport stuff in secure containers... putting a Pass Word on them would simply mean yes tehy ca suicide gank your ship buy they cant pick up your loot,
Wrong.
They cannot open the cans in space, but they CAN put the whole can in their cargo (yes, even if the have a password). And they also can simply repackage them in a station (yes, when they have a password, too) which puts their contents into your staion hangar.
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Capt Tripps
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Speedy Banana
Originally by: Phil Carter Can i have you stuff aswell as all other stuff ingame from ppl who don't want to play anymore and start of a "i hate CCP" thread in the forums?
What stuff? there is no stuff left, because of game design some guy can lose 2% of his money and cause you to lose 99% of yours. Ya gee, wonder why only 20,000 people online still even after all these years.
Well because we like a game thats real like that, you can lose all your marbles if you play like a fool. |

Gee Lok
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:29:00 -
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Dude if you can make 150m in your first two weeks, then you are heading for great things in this game.
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Capt Tripps
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sgt Blade transport stuff in secure containers... putting a Pass Word on them would simply mean yes tehy ca suicide gank your ship buy they cant pick up your loot,
Wow lets all learn how to play eve ok? lol totally false, wrong and ...can't say it here.
WRONG. Start again. |

Sentient Void
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:39:00 -
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Seriously dude, I highly recommend you not quit. You'll regret it. All the other MMO's out there are all carbon copies of eachother... EVE Online is the most unique and rewarding MMO experience you'll find, and one of the cheapest ones as well. You don't have the buy the game, or expansions... it will forever expand, just a monthly subscription and you're set. However, as I have always said, People really do want something beautiful but unforgiving... EVE is that place. I lvoe the brutality of it all.. I love how rabid everyone is... in the industries... the economics... the piracy... it's about as real as you could possibly get IMO. It's player driven like no other MMO... stick with it man.
**Oh and trust me... losing 150 million is not THAT big of a deal. Yah it sucks - but you get over it and move on, and you don't make that mistake again. Consider it a 150 million isk lesson... that's what I do. I've made some DUMB-ASS mistakes in EVE... I've probably lost... legitimately... 800 - 900 million isk worth of assets (battleships, t2 mods, an old quafe run et cetera)...
And guess what? it sucked and I was ****in ****ed as hell... but it all made me a much better player.
Just consider it an expensive mistake you'll never let happen again. Trust me, you won't regret it.
Regarding EVE Online... People really do seem to want something beautiful but unforgiving.
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HuHu Waverider
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:39:00 -
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Wait a minute! Wasteland. Weren't you the guys who set up a pos in Querious to gank people comming into the system down the a2 pipe? Then mouth offed to the owners of said region? Then lost you POS? So your corporation was ganking people at an entrance to 0.0, and you have the balls to come here and complain about getting ganked in empire? Puhlease.
surfs up.
HuHu |

Ben Booley
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:46:00 -
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So where are you getting these "3 battleships" from. I see that you were killed, according to the killmail you posted, by a single battlecruiser. Even just a couple shield extenders is plenty to protect you from a BC long enough for concord to get there.
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WhitePhantom
Gallente Edenists
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: WhitePhantom on 26/05/2007 03:48:44
Originally by: Speedy Banana I put 150 mil isk worth of parts on my hauler, and auto pilot it to agil through secure space, only to get ganked in high sec by a few battleships while their friend in a hauler waited to loot my wreck. That was basically all the money I had. The idiots who did this lost more money in battleships then I had on my ship in cargo, but it doesn't matter to them since 100 mil loss each (x3) isn't anything for them. Now I'm left with 4 mil isk, which is like starting over with a trial account. I lost all the money I made since I subscribed to this game (2 weeks).
Great way to keep your customers paying CCP. Would have helped if there was a warning somewhere about stupid crap like this happening, as it's not obvious to somebody who just purchased the game.
How is it the fault of CCP that you didn't know about the risk of flying around on AP?
Originally by: Speedy Banana Edited by: Speedy Banana on 26/05/2007 02:08:34
Originally by: Cammulos Ummmm, could we revisit the 14day trial+2weeks sub=150m?
How did you do this as a nub (excluding GTC sales, which is prob what it was otherwise)? 
It's called mathematics and common sense. Being suacide ganked does not imply that I'm stupid, especially since I didn't even know stuff like that happens. Maybe if something like that was mentioned in the new player guide it would have helped. Sorry, I was kind of under the impression that SECURE space, was actually secure.
Would have been nice if getting killed by concord because you are an ahole would invalidate your insurance, but hey, I guess trying to eliminate exploits and griefing that makes people unsubscribe is not on CCP's priority list.
You could have ask other players...
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Profhet
Murder of Crows E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.05.26 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Mirage it's a harsh reality. I bet they had their BSs insured so they didnt lose money from it.
you live and you learn ;)
I think thats the key part, which needs to be changed, which people have been asking for constantly since, what forever? ____________________________
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