| Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7 8 9 10 11 .. 11 :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
r2dtwo
   |
Posted - 2007.05.26 16:58:00 -
[121]
 Originally by: Speedy Banana
To the negative people... well I don't read those posts anyways... those are the people that belong in world of warcraft, because those are the kind of kids that game is known for attracting.
The only person who belongs to WOW is you.. from the moment you started this thread you sounded like the perfect cast member of WOW. This game is for hardcore players, if you aren't used to it then you shouldn't play it. play something easier..... like WOW? If you want to avoid future lost from traveling, spend the time manual warp 0km, no matter how much shield or armor you got never use Auto pilot flying near 0.0-.5 even higher sec.
|
Ninjja
Minmatar
Mortis Angelus
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 17:03:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Ninjja on 26/05/2007 17:02:37
Originally by: Necrosmith
What's worse is the criminals insurance company filling their claim.
Thats an interesting point. A small fix to the insurance issue for low standing pirates might be a workable tradeoff to risk v rewards on hi-sec ganking.
And yes, i AM in a pirate corp.  yarrr
To the OP: Sorry about your loss. And im sorry about the harsh responses you are getting. Truth is EVE is harsh, you werent very smart, and this isnt a game for crybabies (despite how the forums portray EVE).
Good luck with whatever game you choose.
|
Jarna
Amarr
Eve University
Ivy League
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 17:27:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Jarna on 26/05/2007 17:31:01
unpost
|
Valan
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 17:31:00 -
[124]
First off the negative posters aren't best suited to WoW because I agree with them. I'm coming upto my 4th Birthday and have never touched WoW.
You've spat the dummy out of the pram because for some reason you've ignored all the advice on this website from CCP and players.
You've already quit once because you didn't get things your own way in 0.0.
Now you've begged isk off these people which isn't really allowed on the forums and all of a sudden you're not leaving. Wasted isk as far as I'm concerned you're only going to quit again at some point.
What happens when your war decced or lose your ship again? More begging? In my view you're the worst kind of player there is and people like you are dragging this fine game into the gutter with you.
You don't have the minerals to post with your main. Which is because you were afraid of repercussions. Why when you were leaving? You had no intention of leaving, you came on here for a whine and hand outs. You made out to be a 2 week old player and it turns out you've played once already.
One final thing it says in the FAQ and player guide that empire isn't safe so by your own logic your're stupid.
/start sig
I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on.
/end sig |
Raane Thyandar
Amarr
PIE Inc.
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 17:46:00 -
[125]
Next time use GSCs in your cargo. Then when they scan they won't know what's in there. Plus you get more cargo space as you are just carrying modules.
|
Barbarellas Daughter
Lonely Barbarella
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 18:28:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Raane Thyandar
Next time use GSCs in your cargo. Then when they scan they won't know what's in there. Plus you get more cargo space as you are just carrying modules.
wrong. they will know. you can jet the sec conts and they wont get your cargo though.
Originally by: Valan
First off the negative posters aren't best suited to WoW because I agree with them. I'm coming upto my 4th Birthday and have never touched WoW.
You've spat the dummy out of the pram because for some reason you've ignored all the advice on this website from CCP and players.
You've already quit once because you didn't get things your own way in 0.0.
Now you've begged isk off these people which isn't really allowed on the forums and all of a sudden you're not leaving. Wasted isk as far as I'm concerned you're only going to quit again at some point.
What happens when your war decced or lose your ship again? More begging? In my view you're the worst kind of player there is and people like you are dragging this fine game into the gutter with you.
You don't have the minerals to post with your main. Which is because you were afraid of repercussions. Why when you were leaving? You had no intention of leaving, you came on here for a whine and hand outs. You made out to be a 2 week old player and it turns out you've played once already.
One final thing it says in the FAQ and player guide that empire isn't safe so by your own logic your're stupid.
This man speaks the truth! Expect the worst and you will stay. If my alliance gets expelled from 0.0 and all my assets there are lost i still will continue, stay with the alliance, try to recapture the lost space or relocate, using my ships stored in empire.
Expect to get killed and lose your stuff again. With this thread you have some new pirates hunting you, trying to suicide gank you just for fun.
Fly safe and have fun as long as you stay!
|
Nanobotter Mk2
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 18:30:00 -
[127]
They key difference here is that the guy wasnt hauling much, and this is actually the key to my arguement about empire suicide ganking, at some point people will start doing it just because they have alot of money they are bored and they want to ruin someone elses time (aka grief people). what happens when they start popping navy issue BS decked out for mission running.....because they are bored and dont mine losing 10 million for an insured BS if they are costing some other player 1 billion......
|
Heisenburg Principle
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 18:33:00 -
[128]
I've een playing since early 2004, i never really have anything over 10m isk, doesn't bother me.
This exactly why i'm happy you were killed, whineing carebears should quit eve.
Go away and don't come back.
I'd ask for your stuff but i don't want anyhting with tears and snot on it.
|
Jim McGregor
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 18:46:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Speedy Banana
Now I'm flying in a Myrmidon with 5 shield expanders and a 1600mm plate.
     
---
Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune |
Mediocrity
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 19:05:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Speedy Banana
Edited by: Speedy Banana on 26/05/2007 02:08:34
Originally by: Cammulos
Ummmm, could we revisit the 14day trial+2weeks sub=150m?
How did you do this as a nub (excluding GTC sales, which is prob what it was otherwise)?
It's called mathematics and common sense. Being suacide ganked does not imply that I'm stupid, especially since I didn't even know stuff like that happens. Maybe if something like that was mentioned in the new player guide it would have helped. Sorry, I was kind of under the impression that SECURE space, was actually secure.
Would have been nice if getting killed by concord because you are an ahole would invalidate your insurance, but hey, I guess trying to eliminate exploits and griefing that makes people unsubscribe is not on CCP's priority list.
Fine, then quit. There are enough crybabies in this game as it is.
The bottom line is that you did not one, but two stupid things and got burned for it, and now you're trying to dodge the blame.
First, if you could manage to make that much money in that short a time as a new character, it is certainly within your powers to make sure that you understand what the hazards are in the game, even in high-sec space.
Second, if you feel the need to transport all of your worldly possessions, it might be reasonable (a) not to transport them all at once and thus allow any possibility of losing everything you have and (b) to make each shipment in the most secure ship possible, depending on your route.
Evidently your "common sense" didn't tell you that.
The appeal of EvE for many of us is that every action we take here has potential consequences, which encourages us to weigh risks versus benefits and generally think about everything we do. I can guarantee you that even worse things will likely happen to you if you stick around here long enough, so if this is all it took to make you throw a tantrum on the forums, perhaps EvE just isn't the game for you.
|
GreenSurf
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 19:33:00 -
[131]
I must say I'm surprised to hear the tone in this thread - I totally agree with Speedy that there's a problem here.
I believe that secure space should be secure - if it isn't a whole dimension of EVE is lost. Most of the people reading this thread may not appreciate the carebear profession, but it has it place in the game. I see this incident as a threat to that profession.
I would suggest that the price you pay for ship insurance is increased for every time you are killed - thats how it works in real life (this could be altered in a way so that the price is most affected by concord kills)
GreenSurf
|
Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 19:46:00 -
[132]
Wow. This is a totally new and unexplored topic! This hasn't happened a million times before. And Eve hasn't gotten more popular over time even in spite of this. There must be a problem!!!
</sarcasm>
Eve is about risk management.
You put all your eggs in one basket.
That wouldn't be good risk management.
1) Learn from mistake
2) Whine on forums and quit
What is your choice?> _
-------------------
Say What? |
Leonardo Sabrioski
Caldari
Leviathan Enterprises
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 19:48:00 -
[133]
Originally by: GreenSurf
I must say I'm surprised to hear the tone in this thread - I totally agree with Speedy that there's a problem here.
I believe that secure space should be secure - if it isn't a whole dimension of EVE is lost. Most of the people reading this thread may not appreciate the carebear profession, but it has it place in the game. I see this incident as a threat to that profession.
I would suggest that the price you pay for ship insurance is increased for every time you are killed - thats how it works in real life (this could be altered in a way so that the price is most affected by concord kills)
GreenSurf
Raising the bar of insurance isn't going to do anything. There will be griefers & pirates out there to take advantage of any profitable scenario.
Speaking as an industrialist, I do not wish to see this imposed. Pirates/pvpers/griefers are necessary in eve inorder to regulate the massive inflation of isk. Think about it - without pirates/griefers/pvpers destroying ships and that occaisional carebear your isk will be worth close to nothing. Also this is NOT a threat to the profession. For every person killed being a carebear one more person is allowed the opportunity that, that person had before.
----------------------------------------------
|
The Pointless
Gallente
Lacks a Point Ltd
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 19:52:00 -
[134]
Do what I do, OP. Make an alt, train an Industial ship skill to about L3 or L4, buy hauler at those levels, along with some cans. Relabel the cans to something like "Minerals" or "T2 BPOs", and head into the offending system. Don't forget to insure either. 
If you're 'lucky', you may get a laugh out of it.
-----------------------------------------------
"And I scream in a thousand voices!" |
Gibbal Slogspit
Buffed Rumpuss Zit Dids
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 19:59:00 -
[135]
Empire ganking as it were, is for noobs.
From the sounds of it, this guy has been playing the game for at least 3 hours a day for the past 2 weeks for that 150M, just to lose it to a bunch of noob griefers trying to make easy isk, knowing they wont lose much.
If you ask me, speedy is more hardcore than that ghey who blew him up.
|
Speedy Banana
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 21:09:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Heisenburg Principle
I've een playing since early 2004, i never really have anything over 10m isk, doesn't bother me.
This exactly why i'm happy you were killed, whineing carebears should quit eve.
Go away and don't come back.
I'd ask for your stuff but i don't want anyhting with tears and snot on it.
ya that's right im carebear.. I guess thats why I managed to get a 800,000 bounty on my head in 2 weeks when my clone only costs 30k.
|
Marquis Dean
Demise and Vestige
9th Fleet
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 21:15:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Speedy Banana
Originally by: Heisenburg Principle
I've een playing since early 2004, i never really have anything over 10m isk, doesn't bother me.
This exactly why i'm happy you were killed, whineing carebears should quit eve.
Go away and don't come back.
I'd ask for your stuff but i don't want anyhting with tears and snot on it.
ya that's right im carebear.. I guess thats why I managed to get a 800,000 bounty on my head in 2 weeks when my clone only costs 30k.
So in two weeks you went pirating, irritated so many people that you got a moderate bounty, and made 130mil?
You're just another eBaying waste of bandwidth who didn't appreciate two things:
1/ Eve is a more serious and mature game that is alot more demanding and unforgiving of it's players than most other games out there. You tried to beat the system, the system balanced itself.
2/ Us vetern forumers can see right through you. Your story doesn't add up, which means somewhere you're lying. You're all kinds of busted little boy.
---
Originally by: Blacklight
To be honest
|
Malcanis
High4Life
Curse Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 21:18:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Speedy Banana
Ohh and as an update. Thanks to the generosity of some of the people on this forum and my corp, I was able to raise 80 million isk last night. This morning all my stuff has sold and I have 120 million. By tomorrow I should be able to do the same thing and get to 160-170 million. Few days after that I should have more then enough to pay everybody back.
Now I'm flying in a Myrmidon with 5 shield expanders and a 1600mm plate. AFK / Autopilot or not, nobody is getting through 15,000 shields and 10,000 armor before concord gets them. Thanks for all the positive comments that made me reconsider leaving and try to rebuild my losses. In the end it's nice to know that not everyone out there in this sh*tstorm is ahole.To the negative people... well I don't read those posts anyways... those are the people that belong in world of warcraft, because those are the kind of kids that game is known for attracting.
Oh. My. God. I'd comment further, but you're clearly not here for advice.
Well, please do keep us posted.
TIA.
|
Hajyt
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 21:22:00 -
[139]
Not to be a jerk, but dont blame the game for your stupidity.
Don't fly, use, or carry **** you can't afford to lose.
Its very basic common sense.
|
Malcanis
High4Life
Curse Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 21:23:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Speedy Banana
Originally by: Heisenburg Principle
I've een playing since early 2004, i never really have anything over 10m isk, doesn't bother me.
This exactly why i'm happy you were killed, whineing carebears should quit eve.
Go away and don't come back.
I'd ask for your stuff but i don't want anyhting with tears and snot on it.
ya that's right im carebear.. I guess thats why I managed to get a 800,000 bounty on my head in 2 weeks when my clone only costs 30k.
So you ****ed off other players enough to get a bounty on your head, then complained when you in turn were ganked..?
Well, I suppose at least you're consistent.
|
Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 21:25:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Gibbal Slogspit
Empire ganking as it were, is for noobs.
From the sounds of it, this guy has been playing the game for at least 3 hours a day for the past 2 weeks for that 150M, just to lose it to a bunch of noob griefers trying to make easy isk, knowing they wont lose much.
If you ask me, speedy is more hardcore than that ghey who blew him up.
I don't care if he's Muhammed Ali "I'm Hard" Bruce Lee. He's still whining about empire ganking after he made a bad decision.
How this warrants 5 pages is beyond me.
-------------------
Say What? |
Majestik
Gallente
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
|
Posted - 2007.05.26 21:55:00 -
[142]
When he comes back whining just link this thread.
|
FuzzBuzz
Caldari
Templars of Space
CORE.
|
Posted - 2007.05.27 00:56:00 -
[143]
somethings are ****** in eve, and this is one of them, not suicide ganking but noobs not knowing how the game is played, the tutorial should say, read the forum like its the guide since the rule havent been written by ccp.
also why the **** doesnt concord insta pop ships in highsec, ive wondered this for a while now, what does having the flagged ship staying alive for how ever long it takes to pop it? its jammed, it cant do ****, it will die, so just insta pop them so the drones dont work, pretty simple :)
|
Frug
Zenithal Harvest
|
Posted - 2007.05.27 01:04:00 -
[144]
The only thing wrong here is that people who can't handle the game whine about it.
You got PWNED. Stop crying.
No, concord should not instapop anybody. You should stop being a careless, whiny fool or find a better game. The OP admits he didn't know stuff like this happens. Who's fault is that? 'nuff said.
- - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - -
If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO
BOOO!! - Ductoris
Neat look what I found - Kreul
Hey, my marbles |
Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
|
Posted - 2007.05.27 01:06:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Soulja
I am starting to question the mentality of people that just shout, 'don't AFK haul', 'use an alt to X' ...etc.. The problem with high sec suicide ganking is that its just plain wrong.
Does anyone else see a similarity here.
Those that...
In eve:
Hauler warps to a hi sec gate at 15km.. Hauler is scanned, popped by n of combat ship y, Hauler points out the injustice and the whole forum shouts abuse at the Hauler.
must also be the ones that in real life follow the 'she deserved it' or the 'she was asking for it' for it mentality in stories of r/ape where the woman was wearing revealing clothes or were to drunk to resist.
So there are two morals:
Just because you can Doesn't mean you should!!
When someone posts a 'OMG i been ganked thread' please don't reply in such r/etarded manner. (see any number of the 'its your fault' threads for examples of r/etarded responses)
even *comparing* *****to losing a ship in an internet spaceship game is ********, dude. Grow up.
Thanks for your time.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/02/2007 23:20:58
But come on, at least give the devs a chance to fire t20. 
Hmm, still waiting. |
Felysta Sandorn
Caldari
Murder of Crows
E N I G M A
|
Posted - 2007.05.27 01:10:00 -
[146]
150mil in your first 2 weeks?
I've been playing for years now, and I make about 100mil a month, and lose about 300mil in ships a month...
I'm glad you got suicide ganked, you sound like you deserved it. To be honest the risk versus reward system in this game is screwed up beyond belief. If you can make 150mil in your first 2 weeks of playing with no risk, just for being some carebear reseller, whereas I risk my ship every day in PvP and get a fraction of that even after years... Something's up there...
If I ever see your character, I'll try to gank you, suicide or not. If you want to whine about how messed up this game is, go play Runescape since you seem to like it so much!
I get bugger all cash, and I may complain a lot, but ask anyone in my alliance, I love to complain for no reason. You on the other hand need a swift backhand back to Jita.
Latest Video, Click Here!
|
Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
|
Posted - 2007.05.27 01:12:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Soulja
I am starting to question the mentality of people that just shout, 'don't AFK haul', 'use an alt to X' ...etc.. The problem with high sec suicide ganking is that its just plain wrong.
Does anyone else see a similarity here.
Those that...
In eve:
Hauler warps to a hi sec gate at 15km.. Hauler is scanned, popped by n of combat ship y, Hauler points out the injustice and the whole forum shouts abuse at the Hauler.
must also be the ones that in real life follow the 'she deserved it' or the 'she was asking for it' for it mentality in stories of r/ape where the woman was wearing revealing clothes or were to drunk to resist.
So there are two morals:
Just because you can Doesn't mean you should!!
When someone posts a 'OMG i been ganked thread' please don't reply in such r/etarded manner. (see any number of the 'its your fault' threads for examples of r/etarded responses)
Your first error was even *comparing* *****to losing a ship in an internet spaceship game, dude. Grow up.
Thanks for your time.
The reason people laugh at stupid people for putting all their stuff into one basket is... it's vulnerable.
Suicide ganks are a different problem, logically speaking.
Use the tools available, don't haul afk, wtz, arrive safe (most likely). If you still get ganked, well, I understand the frustration, and maybe we need to see if their are not enough tools for the smart player to avoid being blown up in high-sec, regardless of intelligent effort being applied to ensure safety.
However, don't EVER compare *****or murder or prison-raping to Eve again, mkay?
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/02/2007 23:20:58
But come on, at least give the devs a chance to fire t20.
Hmm, still waiting. |
Cor'len
Inquest
|
Posted - 2007.05.27 01:29:00 -
[148]
I'd ask if I could have your stuff... but you already lost all your stuff to being n00bish. Tsk, tsk. Now you've ruined my day too.
-Cor
There'd be a graphical sig here if I wasn't so lazy. |
Felysta Sandorn
Caldari
Murder of Crows
E N I G M A
|
Posted - 2007.05.27 01:41:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Soulja
I am starting to question the mentality of people that just shout, 'don't AFK haul', 'use an alt to X' ...etc.. The problem with high sec suicide ganking is that its just plain wrong.
Does anyone else see a similarity here.
Those that...
In eve:
Hauler warps to a hi sec gate at 15km.. Hauler is scanned, popped by n of combat ship y, Hauler points out the injustice and the whole forum shouts abuse at the Hauler.
must also be the ones that in real life follow the 'she deserved it' or the 'she was asking for it' for it mentality in stories of r/ape where the woman was wearing revealing clothes or were to drunk to resist.
So there are two morals:
Just because you can Doesn't mean you should!!
When someone posts a 'OMG i been ganked thread' please don't reply in such r/etarded manner. (see any number of the 'its your fault' threads for examples of r/etarded responses)
Thanks for your time.
If I point out that this person is calling me a rapist on account of my opinion, will this thread then get locked?
IBTL
Latest Video, Click Here!
|
Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2007.05.27 02:24:00 -
[150]
In reply to the original post:
One other thing about Eve (something I dont like about it), is that not only do many newbies take a hard beating learning the game (normal and not really a problem), but many players verbally abuse the newbs if they show even the slightest weakness.
I dont approve of the abuse heaped on many newbs at the drop of hat. I "DO" approve of telling newbs that Eve is harsh game and that in most cases they have only themselves to blame for those early loses, but that can be done with a touch of diplomacy.
For example, in RL, I really dont give a damn if I hurt folk's feelings when I point out cold truth, but I (usually) try not to be an jerk. A number of Eve players go out of their way to be a jerk when pointing out cold truth in such cases.
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7 8 9 10 11 .. 11 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |