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State OFMInd
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2007.06.01 06:40:00 -
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Edited by: State OFMInd on 01/06/2007 06:39:38
Originally by: Muro Deez
Originally by: State OFMInd
Originally by: Snowden Vel This was probably a long time coming because EVE threads on SA have been almost uniformly terrible.
(much like my/your/goonfleet's/ycs's posting)
all posts everywhere are terrible. you should stop posting ill follow suit ( scouts honor )
aren't ycs just all the gamefaq posters that mowed enough lawns for tenbux anyway
quoting muro deez itt
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Sir Lolle
Amarr Band of Brolols
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Posted - 2007.06.01 06:56:00 -
[452]
Originally by: Effects
Originally by: Frug
Originally by: DiuxDium
Originally by: Vesel4ak When I look at long post of eleuthereus and think about his big work for make it I do following conclusion: eleuthereus are one of GM's alt in GS and just want to some washing of CCP reputation.
No, goons* really are bad people... -
*Goonswarm goons. Stop sullying the good names of us normal goons, who don't sue internet websites about our copyrighted 36 minute oral morale blogs.
signed.
Holy crap aren't you that guy who was ****ting up the original thread before it was moved to YCS?
Hahaha it totally is hello friend Frug I am pleased to see you! Sorry about Eve being banned from SA but I am sure you will find somewhere else to whine endlessly about da ebil haxsploiting goons soon enough! Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected][orange] with a link to your signature. - Elm |
Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.06.01 07:27:00 -
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I applaude eleuthereus for his courage, openness and outstanding writing style. Just one excellent post that should get a sticky.
It is rather hilarious how Goons actually confirmed every bit eleuthereus had to said about them with their replies.
Nice move I'd say.
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Dop Sutol
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Posted - 2007.06.01 07:39:00 -
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This thread reminds me of smoking sherm, it is surreal. I don't think I have ever seen a MMORPG quite like this one with its weirdness.
I'm now at a point where I could care less if CCP were to admit to spawning BoB Titans or Goonfleet were to say "We are mad genius social engineers trying to take down CCP for double the pleasure and fun." I think after this day, I am permanently addicted to Eve.
All this is just so wonderfully odd. |
Kiko Goatbiter
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.01 07:41:00 -
[455]
Why don't you troll eve-o about it
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.06.01 07:49:00 -
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Edited by: Frug on 01/06/2007 07:49:42
Originally by: Dop Sutol This thread reminds me of smoking sherm, it is surreal. I don't think I have ever seen a MMORPG quite like this one with its weirdness.
I'm now at a point where I could care less if CCP were to admit to spawning BoB Titans or Goonfleet were to say "We are mad genius social engineers trying to take down CCP for double the pleasure and fun." I think after this day, I am permanently addicted to Eve.
All this is just so wonderfully odd.
It really, really is. The goons are banning themselves from their own forums over this. If you think you're confused, you should see what's going on over there. Heck, a goon made this:
http://goonion.ytmnd.com/
Mainly because these goons are not those goons, but these goons act like they represent all goons goon goonerie goonionationization ugh.
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Davey Oaks
Minmatar Original Pirating Material
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:15:00 -
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Great read, definetly explained the whole goonswarm thing with out having to traul through lots of spam.
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Lydia Brightlance
Gallente M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cringeley Edited by: Cringeley on 31/05/2007 23:15:58 You have to ask yourself where this play style came from.
Goonfleet, and previously the individuals who founded goonfleet, have been getting shat on by Eve's so-called community from the time they joined. They were victims of Istvaan Shogatsu. Then goonfleet was formed and started getting wailed on by the entire population of Syndicate, and then D2.
After fighting ourselves to exhaustion in XZH we faced a grudge war from BoB aimed at making us give up and quit the game, which your precious LV decided to follow up by sending elite gankers into our space to kill our newbies in their ospreys.
So if you want to know why there is a hint of bitterness and hate in our rhetoric (but only in our rhetoric) this is why: Because Eve's "community" is a hate filled, cruel, miserable "community" and it has taught us well.
Actually, this play style has been used by the Goons before they even came to Eve. It has nothing to do with the way they were treated (or maybe they were treated because of their style in the first place). The Goons have acted in this exact way in dozens of other games and online communities and 90% of the time their behaviour has caused upheaval, damage and outrage.
I know they are just trying to have fun (and trying to impress the webmaster of SA) and that their behaviour is not meant to be of any substance, but no matter if they mean it to be so or not, if you act abusive or rude it will be seen as such, if you meant it or not.
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Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kiko Goatbiter Why don't you troll eve-o about it
'cause your trolling is sufficient.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:27:00 -
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To the OP: Ok. Hope you got it all out of your system. You must have struck a nerve judging by the spam...
To the Goons: Goony poo poo goon goony loving sweet caress?
------------------- Say What? |
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Faith Black
Minmatar Rolls Roids
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:27:00 -
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*moderated* completely inappropriate - Karass ------ No.1 reason to post with an alt: Avoiding that your main looks too silly. |
Salastils Alt
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:59:00 -
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The funny part is, this is the exact same tactic we used to field so many GIA agents. Drama bomb occurs and you want to leave the evil Goonswarm to protect you, E-honor, assets, or fun in the game. Just last time we did it alot more flashy with the VCBee's. |
BobFromMarketing
Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Laustin Spayce That entire wall of text. I read it all, and I have to say. With what you said, I have never been as proud as I am now to be a goon. :patriot:
This
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:20:00 -
[464]
Originally by: Effects
Holy crap aren't you that guy who was ****ting up the original thread before it was moved to YCS?
No.
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Killdren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:24:00 -
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Hey instead of playing a game and enjoying ourselves let's post about honor on eve-o and use stupid catchphrases or maybe we could make long pointless speeches about our internet empire on teamspeak then try to sue something awful I think that would be more fun don't you agree
anyway I'm going to bed I don't plan on skimming this thread for responses in the morning
:colbert:
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Dynamist
Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:25:00 -
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Respect to me for reading your entire story.
However, more respect to the OP for writing it all out!
My first 0.0 was also ASCN just as the war was kicking off. Made for some fun times anyway! A good read, and nice to get some balanced perspective on life in the south.
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Alerion
Acquire
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:35:00 -
[467]
To the OP: It was long but a very well written and interesting post. If anything can make me reconsider my account cancelling, this post was it.
See you in space!
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Chill Yo
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:47:00 -
[468]
To eleuthereus: Thank you and respect.
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Skape Gote
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:47:00 -
[469]
I've listened to the "State of the Goonian" address and all I could do was shake my head in despair.
Goons are a cancer on this game and they need some serious chemo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...... |
endeavour x
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:49:00 -
[470]
So GS are imature, rude, scam and gank.
BoB use devs to get things done faster than normal routes.
Have we learnt anything in the last few days? Any one? Anything at all.....?
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Andrachim Tar'nar
The first genesis
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Posted - 2007.06.01 09:51:00 -
[471]
Woah, one of the best things I have ever read on the EVE-O forums.
Hats off!
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Erotic Irony
RONA Deepspace
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:13:00 -
[472]
Can anyone really be as naive as the op?
While we're on the subject of perceived pathological deviance, I saw this a few pages back:
Wheee furries. ___ Oveur: Please read the rules of this thread, keep the discussion elsewhere.
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Tetsujin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:21:00 -
[473]
Originally by: Skape Gote
Goons are a cancer on this game and they need some serious chemo.
Much like your mother.
I'm sorry to be the one who broke the bad news.
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Cheval Blanc
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:29:00 -
[474]
So remember kids: you too, can join Goonswarm, and become a director (or not really one but think you are!). All you need to do is be at the right place, at the right time (i.e. stuck in your LV base), sign some songs on TS and voila, you're now a ***got!
I laugh at the pubbies that take this guy's opinion as if he were worth a single ISK. Seems that anything longer than a page will get chants and applause, despite it being a lolercoaster of ***gotry and drama. I could write a poem about EVE, make a pdf and GD would be all over it.
Enjoy your new position in BoB!
ps **** goons
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:31:00 -
[475]
Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 01/06/2007 10:46:08 self moderated.
Lets all work together to ease the burden of the over worked mods.
Starting with goons stop posting
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Anille Kole
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:35:00 -
[476]
Edited by: Anille Kole on 01/06/2007 10:34:59 Note: Sorry to post this so late after the original posts, but the thread grew pretty fast while I was asleep, and the guy I'm responding to recently posted.
Originally by: Snowden Vel Edited by: Snowden Vel on 01/06/2007 01:44:16
Originally by: Anille Kole "behaving exactly the same as thousands of other players" only applies because your alliance of several thousand + their non-GoonSwarm alts are the ones that behave that way.
I'll go ahead and break it down then, using the OP as a source.
- piracy: Goons pirate. You have us there. I love it. But so do many other pilots who I've seen around lowsec. In fact, most lowsec pirates aren't goons, because we usually fight in 0.0. - profanity/racism: First off, I've seen non-goon pilots unleash massive, mind-bending torrents of profanity at myself and other goons all across the galaxy, usually for stuff like cloaked idling or piracy. As for racism, it's already been pointed out, but it's generally tongue in cheek stuff that happens on our private forums, as opposed to the blatant "logoffski" style racism that many, many people constantly use ingame. - scamming: Scams using ingame mechanics have been around long before goons, and will be around long after we all leave for the POTBS beta in a week. - forums posting: plenty of people in this thread have posted just as much as goons, it's simply a function of the fact that if you make thread about goons, it will involve more goons than other pilots. - highsec ganking: this is a totally legitimate mechanic - highsec isn't totally safe, just safer. Hell, even generally respected groups like Outbreak have done it. - attitude: I've read enough black-and-red colored pirate bios to know there's plenty of random pilots out there who like griefing other players. Most goons simply reflect the general disdain we receive from the community. How could we not love blowing you up, after all we've experienced?
Originally by: Snowden Vel eleuthereus, I was replying to the rabid "CCP is generous you should all be banned" post, not you. I just couldn't get a solid answer from that poster about why we should be banned, so I hijacked your points
If you paid attention to what you were actually posting about, you'd know that the "disruptive behavior" is probably:
A) Exploiting, openly and often.
B) Spamming, again, openly and often.
C) Trolling, often, but behind your alts(or your mains, which can also be seen as alts given what their employment status is and therefore being an unknown), typically in an organized fashion, or just at the mention of BoB, devs, CCP, Goons, donges, or whatever your meme of the hour is.
D) Smacking in local, (third time is the charm) openly and often. Smacktalk is like oxygen to GoonSwarm members I've been in local with.
E) A fairly obvious and organized attempt(even though there was no public evidence that the GoonSwarm leaders premeditated it, there's plenty of obvious reasons why it was.) to try to make CCP look ebil and mean.
This means that most people aren't mad at you for pirating, talking, being disrespectful, scamming, or ganking. They're mad at you for exploiting, spamming, trolling, smacktalking as a standard, and trying to attack CCP. This is only the stuff you've done in the past few weeks, too. People like myself, who have known your group longer, know much more about your "fun".
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Cheval Blanc
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:39:00 -
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Get off your horse, Anille Kole. As if BoB has never exploited either? As if goons' desires to ruin the game EVE makes the admins and other alliances, who have exploited far more than the goons have in terms of affecting the real 0.0 politics of EVE, makes them angels? Your pulling out more straw men than a farmer in the South would (no pun intended).
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Atari Party
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:46:00 -
[478]
When has Goonfleet ever not been a massive riot of hooligans and maniacs? Why is this news to anybody? |
Cheval Blanc
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Atari Party When has Goonfleet ever not been a massive riot of hooligans and maniacs? Why is this news to anybody?
Some people are a bit slow. Especially specific subgroups on EVE.
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Anille Kole
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.06.01 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Cheval Blanc Get off your horse, Anille Kole. As if BoB has never exploited either? As if goons' desires to ruin the game EVE makes the admins and other alliances, who have exploited far more than the goons have in terms of affecting the real 0.0 politics of EVE, makes them angels? Your pulling out more straw men than a farmer in the South would (no pun intended).
Please note, Goon/Goon-alt, that none of my positions are straw men arguments. I listed things GoonSwarm is openly known to do, or known to have done.
I did not mention BoB. I am not comparing them to BoB in any way. BoB is irrelevant, no matter what you may think. This thread is about GoonSwarm, and GoonSwarm alone. Any other assumption is merely to draw focus away from the issue by sending it all to BoB. I mean, it's not like it's obvious when most of the supporters of GoonSwarm call out BoB for everything any time someone tries to say that they aren't very nice...
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