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Lapton
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Posted - 2007.06.20 01:36:00 -
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From what I've heard BOB and its "Pets" are taking over. Soon enough all of 0.0 is going to be taken over and who ever does not join them does not get any 0.0 space. What is this game going to be like when BOB take over? Will this ruin the game for others that do not want to join BOB? What can we do to stop them? Will there be retaliation? A forming of a new alliance that goes against BOB? When will this happen? How will this happen?
I donÆt know what are your thoughts on the legendary Band of Brothers? And what can we all do about them?
In my opinion, I know it is the purpose of this game to ôRule the Universeö. But will ruling the universe stop other corps and alliances from being independent in 0.0? ItÆs like Earth everyone is not fighting over land here. So why donÆt we all ôget alongö? Work something out. Let BOB have their space and others have their own ôFree Spaceö.
I donÆt knowàJust some thoughts about EVE while IÆm at work And I know, I know, IÆm an addict
And if I posted this is the wrong area, IÆm sorry
So let me know what you guys think about the situation
Thanks -Lapton
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Icome4u
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.20 01:52:00 -
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BoB kills all cept blue b/c its fun.
It's a pewpew game after all. ______
Originally by: Vyger If I lose connection while walking around a station will my avatar run off in a random direction and go hide in a corner? 
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Lapton
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Posted - 2007.06.20 01:56:00 -
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o hell ya im all about the pew pew. I dont know these are just some crazy thoughts at work.
What will have happen when BOB takes control?
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Nolene
War Crimes
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Posted - 2007.06.20 02:04:00 -
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A. Probably the wrong section on this.
B. This is an old topic of conversation, there is like a thread a week about this worthless dribble...
C. If you want to know all that info, join a corp who has something at stake out in 0.0 and keep up with the politics. If not, sit in empire and carebear your heart out with those new lvl 5 missions.
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Lapton
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Posted - 2007.06.20 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nolene A. Probably the wrong section on this.
B. This is an old topic of conversation, there is like a thread a week about this worthless dribble...
C. If you want to know all that info, join a corp who has something at stake out in 0.0 and keep up with the politics. If not, sit in empire and carebear your heart out with those new lvl 5 missions.
Well said... I am in a great corp we are just tring to get BACK out to 0.0
I will shud up now Thanks Nolene :)
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Rudy Metallo
Crimson Squall Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.20 02:47:00 -
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BoB will never control all of .0
There's no point in conquering the drone regions. Say what? |

Lapton
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Posted - 2007.06.20 03:07:00 -
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my old alliance had some drone space and ya it was hell... componds... no bounties for the rats... ya not a fun place
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Aakron
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 03:09:00 -
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oh noes ---
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Gavin Neltharek
Caldari HellBrothers Industries FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 03:10:00 -
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Every week there's another thread about how BOB is going to rule all of eve and quite frankly, it's rubbish. The problem with controlling everything is that they deny their pilots the one thing they really enjoy. Pew Pewing daily. Once they run out of targets they'll turn on each other and it'll be a full on cycle again.
There will always be those who oppose BOB and there's always the simple fact that a force as big and powerfull as they are have the problem that defeats all great empires throughout the test of time. No matter how big you get, there's always someone bigger that'll come along and knock you off the top of the ant Hill.
In the meantime enjoy the pew pew against BOB and go all out. Wether it's a pet or BOB itself you're taking to the clone vats, you're doing the rest of EVE a service ;) I enjoy the danger of knowing that BOBs in the filed doing what they do best. Making PVP on a large scale worthwhile. :D
<----------------------------------> A medley of death and evisceration... Let fate choose my enemies demise. |

Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2007.06.20 03:28:00 -
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BOB'll get nerfed like everything else.
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WhitePhantom
Gallente Edenists
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Posted - 2007.06.20 03:52:00 -
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Wish people didn't use the word "pew" makes no freaking sense...
BoB will become as large as Rome, then people close to the leadership will split off.
Its simple history :lol:
At least nobody said the Romans cheated 
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Lapton
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Posted - 2007.06.20 03:57:00 -
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you must not be in to pvp then....pew pew ftw
Ive always thought eventually BOBs "pets" will betray and take them down.
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Icome4u
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.20 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: WhitePhantom Wish people didn't use the word "pew" makes no freaking sense...
BoB will become as large as Rome, then people close to the leadership will split off.
Its simple history :lol:
At least nobody said the Romans cheated 
You sir, fail at EVE. ______
Originally by: Vyger If I lose connection while walking around a station will my avatar run off in a random direction and go hide in a corner? 
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WhitePhantom
Gallente Edenists
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Posted - 2007.06.20 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lapton you must not be in to pvp then....pew pew ftw
Ive always thought eventually BOBs "pets" will betray and take them down.
I just dislike the term "pew pew" my experience in pvp is what it is.
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Lapton
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Posted - 2007.06.20 04:08:00 -
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you poor poor man... or ..... ... woman...
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Trind2222
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.06.20 04:34:00 -
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BOB that bob dit i so anyoing to hear players complain.
Stepp 1: Create a good corp
stepp 2: Make alliance
stepp 3: Grow in power and wealth
stepp 4: Practise pvp scaning and make some good fc in batle is always need for a good fc.
Stepp 5:win win and win agen and newer give up.
The 5 setpp program to be sucsessfull in eve.
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Nolene
War Crimes
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Posted - 2007.06.20 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: Trind2222 BOB that bob dit i so anyoing to hear players complain.
Stepp 1: Create a good corp
stepp 2: Make alliance
stepp 3: Grow in power and wealth
stepp 4: Practise pvp scaning and make some good fc in batle is always need for a good fc.
Stepp 5:win win and win agen and newer give up.
The 5 setpp program to be sucsessfull in eve.
ummm, no, not really tbh. If that is what you think, you have a lot to learn.
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Shivalla
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.20 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rudy Metallo BoB will never control all of .0
There's no point in conquering the drone regions.
I beg to differ on the issue of us not going to own all .0, for a record I say: Nice Region, We¦ll Take it!
On the issue of not going to conquer the Drone regions, I say, we will, and reason: Rent.
Join the GBC now! Enjoy the future, own a own place in space, maybe even a station where you can have your good leisure time, refine your precious alloys, and be THE future of the Ship building entrepreneurs!
Contact your nearest BoB dealership in space! 
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Lapton
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Posted - 2007.06.20 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shivalla
Originally by: Rudy Metallo BoB will never control all of .0
There's no point in conquering the drone regions.
I beg to differ on the issue of us not going to own all .0, for a record I say: Nice Region, We¦ll Take it!
On the issue of not going to conquer the Drone regions, I say, we will, and reason: Rent.
Join the GBC now! Enjoy the future, own a own place in space, maybe even a station where you can have your good leisure time, refine your precious alloys, and be THE future of the Ship building entrepreneurs!
Contact your nearest BoB dealership in space! 
Bast*rds.......
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 07:14:00 -
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BOB lives for war, they will never allow EVE to become peaceful. If they ever conquer it all they will start fighting eachother.
Personally I dont think it can be done, your may claim a system on paper but policing it is another story.
But I think there is something deeper to your question. What I would like to ask you is: Do you feel that the best organised, most experienced, most devious and most aggressive entity in EVE does not "deserve" to gain control of the map if they are able to pull it off? Think about what they will have to put into the game to ever get there.
As for why so many people sided with BOB during the great war? Well think about it, would you rather be known as a BOB pet or a Goon pet?
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Shivalla
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.20 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Noluck Ned BOB lives for war, they will never allow EVE to become peaceful. If they ever conquer it all they will start fighting eachother.
Personally I dont think it can be done, your may claim a system on paper but policing it is another story.
But I think there is something deeper to your question. What I would like to ask you is: Do you feel that the best organised, most experienced, most devious and most aggressive entity in EVE does not "deserve" to gain control of the map if they are able to pull it off? Think about what they will have to put into the game to ever get there.
As for why so many people sided with BOB during the great war? Well think about it, would you rather be known as a BOB pet or a Goon pet?
Actually it is kinda funny, but now that the Trainwreck is being dismantled, it seems that now we are getting more of those so called "pets" as many of you like to call em. I myself would like to call em, associates, business partners.
Contrary to the belief that we had such amount of popularity in the GreatWar times. Those were bit different IMO. Only LV (remnants of what was left) was a big entity that could be considered a ally of significance. Reason why I wont calculate MC to this is because they are Mercenaries, and hired guns are not accountable to anyone. Not even us.
And as you are saying, we had our share of allies in the GreatWar, but if we look at the numbers, more than 20k pilots (only calculating the main alliances who were/are backing RAgoons), against what, maybe MAX 10k, if I would give my opinion, I would say, ~6k players, so the odds were, ~4/1 numbers against us, and in general, the whole "hatred" if I may call it, was aimed towards us.
Now that we have had another success on liberating few regions, it seems many of those former "haters" wanna be "partners".
Wonder why...
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Faekurias
Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.20 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Trind2222 BOB that bob dit i so anyoing to hear players complain.
Stepp 1: Create a good corp
stepp 2: Make alliance
stepp 3: Grow in power and wealth
stepp 4: Practise pvp scaning and make some good fc in batle is always need for a good fc.
Stepp 5:win win and win agen and newer give up.
The 5 setpp program to be sucsessfull in eve.
faaail.
 The ladies man. Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Oh mai GOD! |

Mysdora
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Posted - 2007.06.20 09:05:00 -
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BoB will run into imperial overstretch long before they'll manage to take over all of 0.0. They might be in a position to squash any potential rivals and collect "mafia protection money" (=rent?), but they can only fight so many battles at once, and there will always be many corps and alliances who refuse to bend over. Those may have a hard time growing into anything of significance, but I don't believe for a moment that 0.0 access will ever be exclusive to BoB pets only. *snip* Inappropriate signature removed -Eldo ([email protected]) |

MaxSkywalker
x13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.20 09:25:00 -
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Read the patchnotes..
Taking over capital constellations after Rev. II is very hard with anti-cyno generators and the massive deffence you can set up. - I live of government cheese! NERF THE BOMBS!! |

Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 09:26:00 -
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You must not keep up with galactic politics. o.O
I control all of 0.0. BoB and friends answer to me. :)
*runs back to highsec*
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VIctoria Ballentyne
Minmatar Pale Riders Incorporated Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:46:00 -
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Unfortunately I cannot express my feelings about BoB attempts to take over 0.0 as I rather like playing the game and any attempt to..... express my true views about them would be tantamount to asking CCP to revoke my subscription.
"Forbid a man to think for himself or to act for himself and you may add the joy of piracy and the zest of smuggling to his life"
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Fedaykinn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:04:00 -
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Why did you ahve to make this thread here?. This should be in CAOD this is the one palce where we dont have to put it with the general crap and bull of BoB, and making threads like this is just making it another caod forums for Bob. Please next time you want to make a thread like this put it in caod.
This is for pirates (mostly) and we dont dabble in 0.0 polotics so jsut leave it >_< Yes I Typo, Does It Look Like I Care? |

Krysta Gemme
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:24:00 -
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As a new player of Eve, the only thing that upsets me is that BoB is in the position they were at thanks to CCP and solely thanks to CCP.
They cheated, they got an unfair edge and were allowed to keep it. They would not be the force they are without it.
Arguments can be made all day against this, but nobody will believe them, or should. As far as I am concerned, BoB is a manufactured entity created by CCP for the simple purpose of having a megaalliance to rule the galaxy.
It's sad they couldn't have left the players do it themselves. I don't see any force being able to topple them, lest CCP help another alliance to cheat and catch up.
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weedmasta
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:30:00 -
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I think you are a tad bit late with "your idea" (this topic has been posted many times). BoB opposers had the chance to take BoB down, instead of working systematically they ran around like headless chicken and we are seeing the results whether fortunate or not. Now with the changes to sovereignity, they got no chance imo.
"we hate BoB so we are going to destroy them" is not enough to kill prolly the most organized alliance in the game. You need a realistic short term and long term plan, dedicated people and top notch tacticians if you want to tackle BoB.
Besides, BoB's aim to conquer all 0.0 space is not meant literally. They don't really want to conquer all space because if they did, there won't be anyone left to fight.
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Shuuuun, shuuuun the smacktalkers. |

Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:33:00 -
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If BoB conquer all of 0.0 it will mean more targets moving to lowsec/highsec Empire, which means more chances to liberate assets, YARR!
I've fought BoB on three occasions, in Huzzah, ASCN and recently in GoonSwarm (my last corp was being stalked my BoB, I swear)and each time they have taught me something about the game which I could use to become better. IMO not enough people learn from BoB, instead they start whine threads about how unfair life is.
I think things will become most interesting when/if BoB take over 0.0. there pilots are made for PvP, it's there reason for playing, without it they would be lost. Not sure how they'd feel about just taking rent and sitting idle in a station. Take over Empire? easier said than done. Reset standings? they've done it before and I'm certain they'll do it again.
Either fight them or fight for them, or like me, try cut a new career for yourself as a Pirate but for the love of all things kitty, stop the speculation and go play the game
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Wesley Baird
Ever Flow FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shivalla
Originally by: Rudy Metallo BoB will never control all of .0
There's no point in conquering the drone regions.
I beg to differ on the issue of us not going to own all .0, for a record I say: Nice Region, We¦ll Take it!
On the issue of not going to conquer the Drone regions, I say, we will, and reason: Rent.
Join the GBC now! Enjoy the future, own a own place in space, maybe even a station where you can have your good leisure time, refine your precious alloys, and be THE future of the Ship building entrepreneurs!
Contact your nearest BoB dealership in space! 
Remember to pack exotic dancers!! 
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jizzmonkey
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:43:00 -
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tbh, i hope bob take over a large part of eve, would be great fun.
imagine how many bored pilots with no one to fight, banding together for internal sabotage etc. thats what id spend my time doing, and i expect most self respecting pirates will do as well.
so bring on the large iron fist of bob, i will merely slap it with my leather glove and spit on their shoe,
such blaggardom will not be tolerated!
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Faekurias
Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:47:00 -
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Thread compilation :
PEW PEW = WIN k.thx The ladies man. MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Oh mai GOD! |

Ryan Darkwolf
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:52:00 -
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The day BOB takes over all 0.0 will be a fun day indeed. Many of my buddies ingame have started small corps and are creating alliances waiting for the day BOB gets so big that an attack on all sides will create mayhem and disorder in their ranks....of course looking at it from a different perspective it may of course take a few more years.... Man I cant wait to get back in the game.....8 months is a long time to not be able to play EvE and my clicky finger is itching to start firing some pew pew in 0.0. -----------------------------------------------
Burning with wrath, He stepped down from the Heavens To judge the unworthy, To redeem the pure. |

K'reemy G'udness
Gallente Delicious
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:14:00 -
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I think BoB are awesome, tbh. They are organized, motivated, and so far, successful. They've held their alliance together, despite predictable infighting, which is an important test. Whether or not they can take all of 0.0 is debatable, but only time will really tell. Even if they don't, they can still be proud that they impacted the ingame lives of many people.
I'm not gonna be a ******* BoB pet though, I'll tell you that for nothing. And I might have a Something Awful forums account, but I'll never be in Goonswarm either.
It makes for great vicarious drama, however, and I'll cheer for BoB until I don't. And we'll continue to kill the occasional pet when we can.
Sincerely, K'reemy ---
Recruiting - Named Item List |

Lord Zoran
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:44:00 -
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they wont take it all over.....
now wheres my tin foil hat 
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Ryan Darkwolf
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2007.06.20 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Zoran they wont take it all over.....
now wheres my tin foil hat 
"Passes you an aluminum hat"...much safer with that 
Hmm the day a mysterious 3rd super alliance rises and forces BoB and Goonswarm to ally.....
Man I really wanna get back to my space battles -----------------------------------------------
Burning with wrath, He stepped down from the Heavens To judge the unworthy, To redeem the pure. |

Dihania
Gallente Oyster Colors
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Posted - 2007.06.20 21:00:00 -
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It is impossible for 1 entity to take over all 0.0 space. The number and diversity of eve players makes it that way. As soon as waters calm a bit, a so called pet will rise against the master or the master will no longer accept peace and start killing some more. It's just the way it is.
Oh.. and I win eve :) So donate me isk and then move along, no paper signing, no nothing.
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Kianwan
Caldari The Patriot Society Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2007.06.20 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Krysta Gemme As a new player of Eve, the only thing that upsets me is that BoB is in the position they were at thanks to CCP and solely thanks to CCP.
They cheated, they got an unfair edge and were allowed to keep it. They would not be the force they are without it.
Arguments can be made all day against this, but nobody will believe them, or should. As far as I am concerned, BoB is a manufactured entity created by CCP for the simple purpose of having a megaalliance to rule the galaxy.
It's sad they couldn't have left the players do it themselves. I don't see any force being able to topple them, lest CCP help another alliance to cheat and catch up.
LOL! Wait .. this WAS sarcasm right?
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Sophia Furies
Gallente The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:57:00 -
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Welcome to BoB Online ^_^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24,000 bytes - Tallan ([email protected])
Crazy Apple |
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Karim alRashid
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.06.21 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ryan Darkwolf
Hmm the day a mysterious 3rd super alliance rises and forces BoB and Goonswarm to ally.....
Shhh, working on it ...
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Jinmie
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Posted - 2007.06.21 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jinmie on 21/06/2007 13:40:33
Originally by: Shivalla
Originally by: Rudy Metallo BoB will never control all of .0
There's no point in conquering the drone regions.
I beg to differ on the issue of us not going to own all .0, for a record I say: Nice Region, We¦ll Take it!
On the issue of not going to conquer the Drone regions, I say, we will, and reason: Rent.
Join the GBC now! Enjoy the future, own a own place in space, maybe even a station where you can have your good leisure time, refine your precious alloys, and be THE future of the Ship building entrepreneurs!
Contact your nearest BoB dealership in space! 
Good luck trying to get people to rent an area of space worse than Providence...
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EscapeArtist
Caldari Deviance Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:14:00 -
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I would love to see BOB take over 0.0, all of it I mean... I am sure if they did, a huge uber-neaf would suddenly appear just like it did for the Privateers.
I personally don't see any alliance ever being able to control all of 0.0, but
I'm happy enough in low sec pew-pewing people in the face. 
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Shivalla
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: EscapeArtist I would love to see BOB take over 0.0, all of it I mean... I am sure if they did, a huge uber-neaf would suddenly appear just like it did for the Privateers.
I personally don't see any alliance ever being able to control all of 0.0, but
I'm happy enough in low sec pew-pewing people in the face. 
I was about to abandon this thread since it degenerated to BoB fanboi/haters discussion forum what we will and wont be able to do. But since you made this nice post, that predicted the fact that we will conquer all 0.0, and BOB (alliance) will be nerfed, and had the intelligence to put Privateers in the same sentence, I had to reply.
First: How in the name of god, can you compare a alliance which griefs in empire, all noobs/alliance noobs/noob alliances/noob corps to Band of Brothers?? (The alliance which I am talking here is Privateers, who "exploited" warfee mechanic of the game, and the mechanic was changed so that it couldnt be exploited anymore)
Second: How in the name of god do you think they would be able to nerf something that is just as any other alliance in game, without actually nerfing everysingle alliance in game in the process.
Third: If they would do a nerf that nerfs BoB in particular, how do you think that would be done, since I cannot see a 1 way to do it, so that it would only affect Band of Brothers.
Just my 10¦cents.
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Faekurias
Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:29:00 -
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Bob is like the bad granddad that bounces you on his "knee" whether you want to or not  The ladies man. MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :< Oh mai GOD! |

Mari Onette
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:56:00 -
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If bob takes over all of eve it will quickly fall apart when they suddenly discovery they have no more war targets.
Problems like this solve themselves eventually.
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EscapeArtist
Caldari Deviance Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Shivalla
Originally by: EscapeArtist I would love to see BOB take over 0.0, all of it I mean... I am sure if they did, a huge uber-neaf would suddenly appear just like it did for the Privateers.
I personally don't see any alliance ever being able to control all of 0.0, but
I'm happy enough in low sec pew-pewing people in the face. 
I was about to abandon this thread since it degenerated to BoB fanboi/haters discussion forum what we will and wont be able to do. But since you made this nice post, that predicted the fact that we will conquer all 0.0, and BOB (alliance) will be nerfed, and had the intelligence to put Privateers in the same sentence, I had to reply.
First: How in the name of god, can you compare a alliance which griefs in empire, all noobs/alliance noobs/noob alliances/noob corps to Band of Brothers?? (The alliance which I am talking here is Privateers, who "exploited" warfee mechanic of the game, and the mechanic was changed so that it couldnt be exploited anymore)
Second: How in the name of god do you think they would be able to nerf something that is just as any other alliance in game, without actually nerfing everysingle alliance in game in the process.
Third: If they would do a nerf that nerfs BoB in particular, how do you think that would be done, since I cannot see a 1 way to do it, so that it would only affect Band of Brothers.
Just my 10¦cents.
I'm not sure if you mistook my post for more than it was meant to be.
There was no irony in my post... I would like to see BoB completely over run 0.0 I would.
And my Privateer compliant was actually a jab at CCP not BoB, or you... I am sorry if you think it is, I just meant that when ever a player group is gaining an advantage or having fun doing what they do, CCP goes neuf-tastic and aligns with all the screaming players and caves.
It was a throw away statement, I would carm down if I where you, but think of it this way if BoB did have control over a large percentage of 0.0 (I am talking 80-90% f regions), would CCP be happy if it was effecting the game mechanics / player experience.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.06.22 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lapton
Will there be retaliation? A forming of a new alliance that goes against BOB?
*Cough* Coalition.
And no, this doesn't belong in C&P
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Calderio
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.22 01:05:00 -
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service to the GBC means blue standings.
THE POWER OF BOB COMPELLS YOU.
this thread was covered live on bob radio
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.06.22 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shivalla First: How in the name of god, can you compare a alliance which griefs in empire, all noobs/alliance noobs/noob alliances/noob corps to Band of Brothers?? (The alliance which I am talking here is Privateers, who "exploited" warfee mechanic of the game, and the mechanic was changed so that it couldnt be exploited anymore)
I could not pass this up. The minute you cause CCP to loose subscriptions and cost it money is the minute they will think of a way to nerf you. If you cause em enough trouble they will place you in the trash just like they did the Privateers.
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Icome4u
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.22 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ryan Darkwolf The day BOB takes over all 0.0 will be a fun day indeed. Many of my buddies ingame have started small corps and are creating alliances waiting for the day BOB gets so big that an attack on all sides will create mayhem and disorder in their ranks....of course looking at it from a different perspective it may of course take a few more years.... Man I cant wait to get back in the game.....8 months is a long time to not be able to play EvE and my clicky finger is itching to start firing some pew pew in 0.0.
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Originally by: Vyger If I lose connection while walking around a station will my avatar run off in a random direction and go hide in a corner? 
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Cowboy Nuggets
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.06.22 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Aille Pluthrak
Originally by: Shivalla First: How in the name of god, can you compare a alliance which griefs in empire, all noobs/alliance noobs/noob alliances/noob corps to Band of Brothers?? (The alliance which I am talking here is Privateers, who "exploited" warfee mechanic of the game, and the mechanic was changed so that it couldnt be exploited anymore)
I could not pass this up. The minute you cause CCP to loose subscriptions and cost it money is the minute they will think of a way to nerf you. If you cause em enough trouble they will place you in the trash just like they did the Privateers.
Just my 10'cents worth
Used to be all the posts I read were "CCP = BoB, blah blah blah...." Now I'm reading people saying CCP is going to nerf BoB and throw them in the trash!! How the times have changed...
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Belenkas
FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.06.22 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Belenkas on 22/06/2007 11:18:56 If people around would have much alive brain cells... it is obvious that CCP earns money from this game. Why in the god's sake would you create a game and then win it yourself, what would essentially mean no more money coming towards you? That said, there were some facts about certain DEVs helping BoB. It happens, you can't control every employee of yours. It was taken care of, measures taken to avoid it in the future. So what if some DEVs play the game? When they play it, they can test it first-hand. So what that they joined one alliance, although I really doubt there are no DEVs playing in other alliances, just rules of conduct doesn't allow to tell about it.
Facts are that the more people play this game, the better it is for the DEVs and their families. Thus they will do everything, I mean EVERYTHING, possible to increase the happiness of players playing the game, so that the players recommend the game to their friends, they to their friends and it continues. That means... they will NEVER allow BoB to 'Win' the game. Especially after China's server lessons. There will come some nerf, maybe it will touch all alliances, maybe only the largest holding alliances, but something will happen that will prevent BoB, or anyone else for that matter, from ruining everyone's gameplay and cause large money losses to CCP.
I have played game(luckily round based, where game resets at intervals) where a group of us would just dominate eventually. After complete domination, of course, there were people who broke off our group, but the 'core' members of organisation who made it all happen stayed together and of course slaughtered any opposition, even if it was equal in numbers, but much worse in organization and tactical intelligence. In the end, noone even tried to resist and everyone(including us) started begging for early round end and reset. What I want to say with this, the talks about some pets uprising and so on... It's is just impossible if the core of BoB, the guys who made this all, and the actual number I bet is way below 50, not the 2k+ members of BoB, stays together, they will face all the uprisings and come over it. Unless some serious stuff happens inside the 'core', I really doubt the well-oiled machine of BoB can collapse. Thus they will receive the famous nerfbat to their gameplay, preventing them from conquering the game.
On the other hand, it would be very much fun for all the role players around EVE to stand on empires' side(yeah they should unite then) to fight the mighty GBC attacking the empires from all sides Wonder if empires could really resist the 50 titan force instapopping all the capitals How about GBC vs Jove war? 
P.S. I am not an alt of somebody who has 'CCP' in front of their name :)
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Kuzya
Mjeh's Venture Company
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Posted - 2007.06.22 15:28:00 -
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Well, I see one legitime way to "nerf" alliances such as BoB, however, its a feature, not a nerf, and a logical one.
The Empires grows weary and afraid of the power of the BoB alliance (criteria for this to happen == number of alliance systems owned in 0.0 space, and applies to all alliances that meets the criteria) and thus goes to war against it.
It means, npc fleets engaging BoB targets, no access to high-sec space in order to force/put some pressure on alliances of significant sizes.
It means, that any alliance that steps over a certain boundary, the Empires will react due to fear. This makes it difficultier for alliances such as BoB to conquer all 0.0 space without a propher fight, HOWEVER, it doesnt mean it shouldnt be possible to conquer all, just harder.
Its an extra stick in the wheel, but not forced and limited borders of alliance growth.
Other gameelements that support the spawn of internal conflicts, or guerilla warfare tactics could also be an option to put pressure on almighty alliances, to add more flavours to the gameplay. Want to own it all BoB? it should be some rocks and downhills towards that progress in terms of supportive game elements.
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Cal Ackerman
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.06.23 03:50:00 -
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Quote: What is this game going to be like when BOB take over?
A long time ago in a Galaxy far, far away....
Revelations 4
A NEW HOPE
It is a time of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from 1.0 space, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire of Bob.
During the battle, rebel spies managed to steal the origional blueprints to the Empire's strongest weapon, the DEATH STAR, an 2nd generation Titan with enough firepower to destroy an Avatar.
Pursued by the Empire's sinister Mercenary Coalition, the Sisters of Eve race home aboard their starship, custodians of the secret plans that can save the people of EVE and restore freedom to the galaxy....

In all seriousness, BoB has made so many enemies between the cheating (oh, THOSE blueprints), arrogance, and naked agression that they'll have plenty of enemies for years to come.
I'm not worried about them talking all of lowsec space and besides; all space operas need an evil empire anyways. 
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Jandice Ymladris
Caldari United Peoples' Defense Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.23 08:09:00 -
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Noticed there`s alot of talk going on about BoB and Goonswarm.
While many find them annoying apparantly; I like the strive between the two. Makes sure there`s always something interesting to see/happen.
That said; imagine of one or both would suddenly vanish. True taking over certain sectors would suddenly be easier; and less worry about the superalliances. But wouldn`t that take away a bit of the game & fun?
And yes; I`m pretty new; just an observation I made.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.06.23 08:56:00 -
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1) Why is this in C&P? 2) I hope they actually would take over it all, just to stop these damn alt posts from appearing everywhere. 3) See the care-meter below:
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Draghkar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.23 17:00:00 -
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bob? heard alot, never seen em.
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nakKEDK
Gallente North Face Force Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.23 20:21:00 -
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Babel Matrix
Gallente ZiTek
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Posted - 2007.06.23 21:09:00 -
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With the changes of Revelations, one can imagine that, once BoB takes over 0.0, they'll charge 0.1+ corps to "allow" them to mine in 0.0 space. Soon, OHGOD and others will be "leasing" these systems to stay alive. If you've ever played Ryzom, just think of BoB as the Kami and the Karavan spliced into a single, giant, heaping Deus Ex Machina for 0.0 space.
Yay.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.06.24 07:18:00 -
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it all depends on thier rate of growth.
if they stay mostly closed to new members they will over stretch their player base. and if they can take over all of 0.0 then eve is dead and there are not enough players to make it worth playing.
if they grow a lot they have a chance, then again they could always fall apart then. or if they have lots of willing slaves.
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deathforge
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.06.24 15:49:00 -
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BOB STOLED MY VELDSPARS OMG
And by the way, I rule you.
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Cron BOB'll get nerfed like everything else.
I wish I could belive that, but there is a part of me that does not think they will. CCP loves BoB and that is a known fact beyond dispute. They crushed us, they crushed Moo, but BoB will never get nerfed, never.
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Cron BOB'll get nerfed like everything else.
I wish I could belive that, but there is a part of me that does not think they will. CCP loves BoB and that is a known fact beyond dispute. They crushed us, they crushed Moo, but BoB will never get nerfed, never.
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:54:00 -
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Now that my eyes have melted as I was sure I was in the wrong forum I'll post the following.
BoB are mobsters running a protection racket. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket (meh not going to link it just because I know you're lazy) "Those who do not buy into the protection plan are often targeted by criminals existing outside of the organization." Some would say this is MC + GBC.
"Disputes between organizations concerning territory consequently arise from two competing predators attempting to extort from the same "clients." These predators are called Alliances or often pirate corporations that can crush Alliances.
Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are on the bottom of food chain. I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |

Zaphod Jones
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:08:00 -
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wow the goontrain has got sick of CAOD, General and has now moved onto C&P in an attempt to win friends.
 
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.06.28 03:08:00 -
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Next they'll be asked to be set blue to everyone. However I'm an equal opportunity pirate... I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |

LoganFire
Amarr Quam Singulari Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.28 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lapton From what I've heard BOB and its "Pets" are taking over. Soon enough all of 0.0 is going to be taken over and who ever does not join them does not get any 0.0 space. What is this game going to be like when BOB take over? Will this ruin the game for others that do not want to join BOB? What can we do to stop them? Will there be retaliation? A forming of a new alliance that goes against BOB? When will this happen? How will this happen?
I donÆt know what are your thoughts on the legendary Band of Brothers? And what can we all do about them?
In my opinion, I know it is the purpose of this game to ôRule the Universeö. But will ruling the universe stop other corps and alliances from being independent in 0.0? ItÆs like Earth everyone is not fighting over land here. So why donÆt we all ôget alongö? Work something out. Let BOB have their space and others have their own ôFree Spaceö.
I donÆt knowàJust some thoughts about EVE while IÆm at work And I know, I know, IÆm an addict
And if I posted this is the wrong area, IÆm sorry
So let me know what you guys think about the situation
Thanks -Lapton
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Callente Riveara
Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.28 12:11:00 -
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There is a reason the groups of players in this game are called Corporations ;-)
BoB is just like any REAL large corporation, but in Eve, you get to blow em up, rather then have some sort of law to keep their power from becoming overwhelming. This is part of the game. If you dont like em, then dont join them.
I believe my Alliance is part of "The Alliance" (I dunno, I just joined em, and havent seen any BoB guys yet), but my views arent based on this.
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Geordi
Pitch Black Incorporated Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.06.29 09:25:00 -
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why hate BoB just because they are doing things right look at BoB and learn from them they have an alliance that is working togeather for a goal thay understand the game and how it works and what is needed to get somewhere in this game if everyone put thier enthusiasm in to playing the game instead of moaning then they may do better
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.29 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Shivalla
Originally by: EscapeArtist I would love to see BOB take over 0.0, all of it I mean... I am sure if they did, a huge uber-neaf would suddenly appear just like it did for the Privateers.
I personally don't see any alliance ever being able to control all of 0.0, but
I'm happy enough in low sec pew-pewing people in the face. 
I was about to abandon this thread since it degenerated to BoB fanboi/haters discussion forum what we will and wont be able to do. But since you made this nice post, that predicted the fact that we will conquer all 0.0, and BOB (alliance) will be nerfed, and had the intelligence to put Privateers in the same sentence, I had to reply.
First: How in the name of god, can you compare a alliance which griefs in empire, all noobs/alliance noobs/noob alliances/noob corps to Band of Brothers?? (The alliance which I am talking here is Privateers, who "exploited" warfee mechanic of the game, and the mechanic was changed so that it couldnt be exploited anymore)
Second: How in the name of god do you think they would be able to nerf something that is just as any other alliance in game, without actually nerfing everysingle alliance in game in the process.
Third: If they would do a nerf that nerfs BoB in particular, how do you think that would be done, since I cannot see a 1 way to do it, so that it would only affect Band of Brothers.
Just my 10¦cents.
Actually not everyone other alliance has had tech II bpo's from CCP, or a dev leading their capship fleet.
;)
p.s. you're losing the war.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: fire 59 on 29/06/2007 11:20:06 Edit - nm, curb the urge i say, curb the urge
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AmyLeigh
Amarr JASDIP
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:44:00 -
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Im new to this game, less then a month infact - but is it safe to assume that BoB are a huge corp (with a ton of followers) that will kick my tush just for flying around in 0.0 space they have claimed.
Means I have lots to look forward too!  Who are thier biggest rivals?
(Please be gentle, I am very very new)
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Callente Riveara
Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:54:00 -
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actually, alot of BoB's 0.0 is pretty empty, i flew through it for the first time last night to get to my new home in 0.0 (dont worry, Im supposed to be there)
youd probably be okay finding a nice out of the way empty BoB space and ratting or mining there.
However, once local lights up with a BoB member, warp to an SS and chat with em a bit. BoB rents out their space to smaller corps (they provide the protection) and im sure with a little ISK they MIGHT let you slide once or twice.
If they dont, I suggest leaving, because they WILL find you, and they WILL kill you
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JackknifedII
Minmatar The Evil Ducks
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Posted - 2007.06.29 19:43:00 -
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BoB will never take over everything. They will be too stretched making them weak. And if by some miricle it does happen, it will simply mean my closest targets will be from BoB rather than Hydra.
Perhaps their gatecamps will be more organised and their members more interesting to shoot at.
But probably not
Anyway, they will implode before they get close....besides....most people dont care, and why people insist on opening these random BoB threads is beyond me!
OH THE HUMANITY
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.29 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Noluck Ned <snip>
As for why so many people sided with BOB during the great war? Well think about it, would you rather be known as a BOB pet or a Goon pet?
Quite a few of us are neither and intend to stay that way, whatever happens.
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Shivalla
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.30 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Shivalla
Originally by: EscapeArtist I would love to see BOB take over 0.0, all of it I mean... I am sure if they did, a huge uber-neaf would suddenly appear just like it did for the Privateers.
I personally don't see any alliance ever being able to control all of 0.0, but
I'm happy enough in low sec pew-pewing people in the face. 
I was about to abandon this thread since it degenerated to BoB fanboi/haters discussion forum what we will and wont be able to do. But since you made this nice post, that predicted the fact that we will conquer all 0.0, and BOB (alliance) will be nerfed, and had the intelligence to put Privateers in the same sentence, I had to reply.
First: How in the name of god, can you compare a alliance which griefs in empire, all noobs/alliance noobs/noob alliances/noob corps to Band of Brothers?? (The alliance which I am talking here is Privateers, who "exploited" warfee mechanic of the game, and the mechanic was changed so that it couldnt be exploited anymore)
Second: How in the name of god do you think they would be able to nerf something that is just as any other alliance in game, without actually nerfing everysingle alliance in game in the process.
Third: If they would do a nerf that nerfs BoB in particular, how do you think that would be done, since I cannot see a 1 way to do it, so that it would only affect Band of Brothers.
Just my 10¦cents.
Actually not everyone other alliance has had tech II bpo's from CCP, or a dev leading their capship fleet.
;)
p.s. you're losing the war.
Omg, I have a celeb replying me in a goonwhine thread :D
Gotta love you KIAtolon, btw, I have your cold corpse for pleasure purposes in our 99 warbonds station, I have been keeping it warm, for sexual purposes only, ofc. I think I have your freighter alts corpse aswell, and hey, I think we have your POS fuels also :D
BTW: How is the "winning" going :D
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.01 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: JackknifedII BoB will never take over everything. They will be too stretched making them weak.
I guess you can also say that McDonalds had better not open more resteraunts, since if they do, they will overstrech themselves? --
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.07.01 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: JackknifedII BoB will never take over everything. They will be too stretched making them weak.
I guess you can also say that McDonalds had better not open more resteraunts, since if they do, they will overstrech themselves?
I am sure McDonalds can put up loads more outlets but they will still make sh1t burgers.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.07.01 16:14:00 -
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There is no BoB.
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