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Shaki'h Brighthead
Amarr
Tagazok Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.26 20:55:00 -
[541]
 Originally by: Shadarle
Reading the thread is generally a smart thing to do before posting.
This is a scam. You won't get a penny for them.
I've read it, but it still wasn't clear enough for me. Now it is!
Well... Better luck next time :]
Thanks for answering :)
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Rogue Vol
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Posted - 2007.12.31 08:29:00 -
[542]
I win this thread.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.01.02 21:20:00 -
[543]
Originally by: Rogue Vol
I win this thread.
did you get some psi?
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Rogue Vol
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:34:00 -
[544]
I'm the only one who got their isk back from Wylker, therefore...
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:37:00 -
[545]
Originally by: Rogue Vol
I'm the only one who got their isk back from Wylker, therefore...
therefore... You were in on the scam?
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Rogue Vol
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:48:00 -
[546]
therefore....I win this thread.
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Zathi Shaitan
Minmatar
Illiteracy Combatants
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:05:00 -
[547]
Of course it was a scam.
Gruesome grammar in the OP, so... just keep in mind:
Never ... EVER ... trust illiterate people.
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Boone Kai
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Posted - 2008.01.09 05:26:00 -
[548]
So did the payout promised on SHC ever happen?
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.01.09 06:21:00 -
[549]
Originally by: Boone Kai
So did the payout promised on SHC ever happen?
Not sure about "promised" but the payout to wykler's wallet went according to his plan(s).
AKA Scamtastic
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Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2008.01.14 02:25:00 -
[550]
Originally by: Zathi Shaitan
Of course it was a scam.
Gruesome grammar in the OP, so... just keep in mind:
Never ... EVER ... trust illiterate people.
Wow. I thought it was very well written.
Anyway. Heres the final word. This was never intended to be a scam, a combination of being really busy, losing interest, and the disappearance of some of my support led to this entire venture sitting on the back burner for a very long time. I had originally intended to liquidate and refund as much isk as possible but as of right now I have loaned out all the BPOs that I had to various parties and I'm not really sure when/if I'll get them back.
On that note, I'm sorry to anyone that lost isk in this deal, if I could have had a crystal ball I probably would have never started this thing. I have paid a few people back, and will probably try to get some isk sent out to a few people who I care about personally. I certainly didn't need anyone's isk, but I guess no one will really every believe that. Other than that, most of you probably need to move on. Sorry again, I wish everyone the best of luck. <3
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.01.14 08:22:00 -
[551]
In that case. Your even more incompetent than we thought.
You should just have said you scammed it all instead of making yourself sound more stupid :S
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Taurus Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.14 14:05:00 -
[552]
Wylker isn't incompetent. He's just human.
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Kyrial Tidolfas
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Posted - 2008.01.14 14:24:00 -
[553]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Wylker isn't incompetent. He's just human.
thats understanable because lavista vista is wrong generally 2 halves the time.
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Richard Kitan
United Space Republic Research
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Posted - 2008.01.14 15:39:00 -
[554]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Wylker isn't incompetent. He's just human.
If I'm reading his post correctly, he gave away the BPOs that he purchased with public money, and is now only paying back his friends - all the while maintaining it's not a scam. That's not "human", it's either a scam, or incompetence.
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Richard Kitan
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Investigador
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.01.14 16:08:00 -
[555]
Edited by: Investigador on 14/01/2008 16:11:41
Originally by: Wylker
Anyway. Heres the final word. This was never intended to be a scam,
That's what all IPO scammers say.
Originally by: Wylker
a combination of being really busy, losing interest, and the disappearance of some of my support led to this entire venture sitting on the back burner for a very long time.
And you decided to give away/spend all of that isk sitting there, instead of keeping it so you could return it to the investors that actually put it there.
Richard Kitan makes a good summary of the rest of your post, only that I don't share his interpretation that this could be incompetence.
I mean, come on, look at the chatlog he posted where he tricks Ricdic into investing and how he sweet-talked Ricdic for 2 or 3 weeks and then at the end he avoided skillfully all questions about scamming (I hope this is the right scam, since I can't find the post). Does it sound like incompetence to you?
So. If it can only be either scam or incompetence. And if we know for a fact that he is not incompetent. Then, by elimination, the only conclusion is that he is a scammer(*).
And his behaviour is the same one as competent scammers trying to save face before turning around again and laughing to people who believed him.....
(*) Aristotle's sophisms + pigeonhole principle FTW
P.D.: Oh, and of course, the final word belongs to the investors not to the ipo holder. Btw, trying to steal the final word is also what a scammer would do, you know.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.01.14 16:17:00 -
[556]
Originally by: Investigador
I mean, come on, look at the chatlog he posted where he tricks Ricdic into investing and how he sweet-talked Ricdic for 2 or 3 weeks and then at the end he avoided skillfully all questions about scamming (I hope this is the right scam, since I can't find the post). Does it sound like incompetence to you?
I think you are thinking of the Reithe Scam, not this one.
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Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2008.01.14 16:23:00 -
[557]
Fine it was all a scam, thanks for the isk. Lollerskates amirite? I bought 40 bil worth of genetically enhanced livestock, quafe, and exotic dancers and had the nastiest orgy ever. Thanks for your contributions.
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Ricdic's Hoe
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Posted - 2008.01.14 16:23:00 -
[558]
Edited by: Ricdic''s Hoe on 14/01/2008 16:26:10
Originally by: Investigador
I mean, come on, look at the chatlog he posted where he tricks Ricdic into investing and how he sweet-talked Ricdic for 2 or 3 weeks and then at the end he avoided skillfully all questions about scamming (I hope this is the right scam, since I can't find the post). Does it sound like incompetence to you?
That was Riethe
With this corp it was simply the OP started the investment, things didn't go his way, decided it was too much work, and gave up the easy way. We can call it incompetence or we can call it what it is, a scam. There was no sweet talking on this one. I saw all the people "vouching" for and giving great character references and invested in it.
The above didn't lead me to believe they would repay the debt in the event of his default, but that there were enough positive experiences by his friends to suggest he would do the right thing. I only had a small investment in PSI anyway but yeh I probably invested also because everyone was doing it 
(by I , I mean Ricdic. EBANK weren't live at time of this IPO)
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Investigador
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.01.14 16:30:00 -
[559]
Edited by: Investigador on 14/01/2008 16:32:29
Edited by: Investigador on 14/01/2008 16:31:06
Yeah, I confused that chatlog there, sorry. I edited my post.
This leads us to another passionate question:
Are all scammers just incompetent guys?
P.D.: lol, I read Ricdic's post before Wylker's post. Wylker, good luck with those exotic dancers, and don't get any STI.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.01.14 16:45:00 -
[560]
Originally by: Wylker
Anyway. Heres the final word. This was never intended to be a scam, a combination of being really busy, losing interest, and the disappearance of some of my support led to this entire venture sitting on the back burner for a very long time. I had originally intended to liquidate and refund as much isk as possible but as of right now I have loaned out all the BPOs that I had to various parties and I'm not really sure when/if I'll get them back.
So basically you lacked the skills/ability to run the IPO effectively and you lacked the morals/decency to do the right thing once you discovered your shortfalls. You aren't a scam, you're an inept person with no morals. Gotcha.
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Brisco Smiley
Peppermint Bay Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.01.14 16:53:00 -
[561]
Originally by: Wylker
the final word
Smart money doesn't need apologies and doesn't hold grudges. If you want to go out as a poor business rather than a scam, it shouldn't be too difficult. Refund whatever isk is left equally to all investors, then post the list of people who have the BPO's. I'm sure the investors would be happy to clean up the rest for you. If you really want the final word, just post your api key and let it be someone else's problem.
Cheers,
Brisco Smiley
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Pink Kiwi
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Posted - 2008.01.14 16:53:00 -
[562]
Originally by: Wylker
I certainly didn't need anyone's isk, but I guess no one will really every believe that.
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Josh Causto
Gallente
Fatalix Inc.
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.15 01:02:00 -
[563]
Originally by: Wylker
possible but as of right now I have loaned out all the BPOs that I had to various parties and I'm not really sure when/if I'll get them back.
so you loaned out bpos that your not sure if you will get back? Can i borrow some BPOs plz.
Originally by: Speed Devil
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Everytime you fit anything other than a laser on our ships, babies die.
and when ya fit lasers on your ships nothing dies
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Ion Halo
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Posted - 2008.01.15 03:36:00 -
[564]
Originally by: Wylker
On that note, I'm sorry to anyone that lost isk in this deal, if I could have had a crystal ball I probably would have never started this thing. [/quote
Heh, this is funny.
Page 4 contained all of the warning signs investors should have noticed.
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
Galactic Research
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Posted - 2008.01.23 06:20:00 -
[565]
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/01/2008 06:22:24
I've just stumbled upon a post in the sell orders forum.
Wylker wants to buy a Chimera.
Originally by: Wylker
1x Chimera please
here
Wasn't this guy supposed to have used the money to develop capital production and weren't carriers one of his priorities?
Looks like he scammed from the beginning. hahah
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:37:00 -
[566]
Thats from an hour before your post, a few posts above this he declares it a scam, he scammed then bought that a week later or so.
~Nyron
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
But poor victimized Ulf...I weep lavender scented tears for you.
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