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Veronique deEstelle Gallente Advanced Technologies And Research Inc	Posted - 2007.11.28 11:07:00 - [481] There has been a lot of talking about the various options. I would like to know Wylker's opinion to the choices at hand as he is the one who has learnt a thing or two so far and is supposed to carry out the vote.
Marcus Baltar	Posted - 2007.11.28 12:13:00 - [482] Originally by: Wylker TO INFINITY, AND BEYO.... Just kidding, new vote is up. As I only have a few shares, I would just like to add my 0.02 ISK to this thread. If there is a problem with the share voting system counting any non-voting shares as option 1, surely the first option should be "A vote here means nothing", with the other options listed as required? This would then require a deliberate effort by anyone that wants to vote with their shares to choose a valid option, and if the system does have a default "Option 1" it will not matter. Please CCP, can we have some clarification on how the whole share voting system works?
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.11.28 13:15:00 - [483] Originally by: Marcus Baltar Please CCP, can we have some clarification on how the whole share voting system works? And what makes you think that they know? Taikun's Lost Bet
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.28 13:53:00 - [484] I will have the answer in a few minutes when I log in Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.28 13:58:00 - [485] Ok, the EBANK board of directors have 200 shares each. The vote said no-one was to vote on option 1. Shar and I didn't vote at all. At least 1 did vote (not sure who did/didn't) Either way, 0% showed as voting on option #1. Even without shares, your corp gets the option to vote on an option. EBANK didn't do any vote either. Ok so conclusion. A non-vote does not result in a default to option 1. Cheers. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
cosmoray	Posted - 2007.11.28 14:15:00 - [486] Ricdic can you copy the E-bank vote results here. I am only interested in the values with the percentage of people who voted in. e.g (Option 1. 11.209631%/100) where 100 is the % of people who voted, in E-banks case hopefully less than 100. This will help give a feel to the look of the new PSI vote. What we know: 1. Voting system seems to work 2. PSI has 12001 total voting shares 3. We will be able to accurately account for the voting outcomes and decide what blocks of shares are voted. 4. If Wylker DOES NOT vote (as he promised) and everyone else DOES the max percentage of voters should be around 33%. This would look like: Option 1 (22.9863681/33). etc.....
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.28 15:03:00 - [487] Edited by: Ricdic on 28/11/2007 15:02:46 Originally by: cosmoray Ricdic can you copy the E-bank vote results here. Your wish is my command http://users.tpg.com.au/ricdic/vote.jpg Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.11.28 15:03:00 - [488] Edited by: Matalino on 28/11/2007 15:04:27 The example that I provided eariler was taken directly from the Financing vote for DATAC. Unless they have rewritten the voting system in the past couple of weeks then it would still be the same. Originally by: Ricdic http://users.tpg.com.au/ricdic/vote.jpg An thus we see that 22.2% voted. ************************** Datacore Harvesting IPO
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.28 15:10:00 - [489] The plot thickens. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.28 15:46:00 - [490] Originally by: Minerva Vulcan The plot thickens. /me put's his teaspoon in the pot of plot and is amazed to see the spoon sticks up! Rate my charecters please
Nicho Void Hyper-Nova Tenth Legion	Posted - 2007.11.29 22:55:00 - [491] This feels like "Dances with Wolves". It just won't end.
Boone Kai	Posted - 2007.11.30 04:31:00 - [492] Come on. He apparently hasn't made any money at all with all the isk that has been invested. If this isn't a scam, what is? He could have at least sold BPC's for some isk, but didn't even have the motivation for that. I ask you, after all the time this has been going on, and even given how business plans can change, how is this not a scam except for the fact that he hasn't announced it?
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.30 04:48:00 - [493] Yep in my opinion my money is lost. The fact that only a tiny percentage voted to liquidate 10% or so I can only wonder why Wylker doesn't just buyback that 10% and reissue them to people who want them. We had the same sort of scenario with ISS (except ISS were actually paying dividends). Investors in ISS wanted to get out but ISS refused to provide the buyback. This made Roemy and Shadarle very angry so every month they would be mad at Stins and ISS as they felt they were stuck in an investment that they didn't want. Anyway, the end result was not just a buyback but ISS shut down shop. If only 10% want to liquidate, ACCEPT their request and keep things going. It's far better to let them out rather than having them constantly on your back. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
cosmoray	Posted - 2007.11.30 13:41:00 - [494] Is a 2nd vote going ahead? has it ended? results?
Richard Kitan United Space Republic Research	Posted - 2007.11.30 14:59:00 - [495] Originally by: cosmoray Is a 2nd vote going ahead? has it ended? results? Second vote is underway. It doesn't end until 12/2. For the record, my 15 shares voted "Option 1" - Liquidate. -- Richard Kitan Builder of Stuff
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.11.30 16:41:00 - [496] It just amazes me that Wylker doesn't do one of two things. 1. Buy back the 11% of the shares that people want to sell out, then reissue them to the 89% who still want to be in. 2. Admit he will never pay a div and is scamming. The only excuses for not making any profit up to now are scam or incompetence. You can decide for yourself which is worse. Make a choice Wylker. If you want your name to be worth anything then offer the buyback. If you're afraid everyone will take it so you'll have no money to continue then that just proves the point that it is time to liquidate. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.30 16:54:00 - [497] Shadarle should be god Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Meleil	Posted - 2007.11.30 16:55:00 - [498] Originally by: Ricdic Shadarle should be god I thought he was O.o ... In his mind
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.30 16:55:00 - [499] Originally by: Ricdic Shadarle should be god What's to say he isn't already? Huh? Mind blown.
Ritooria	Posted - 2007.11.30 23:50:00 - [500] this thread is all win. stupendously epic.
Auri Hella	Posted - 2007.12.01 00:08:00 - [501] Originally by: Ricdic Shadarle should be god Drunkpost
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.12.01 22:34:00 - [502] only two shares left; those that have faith in this "venture", feel free to hit me up and take them at the low low introductory ipo price of 10m each. oh wait, let me rephrase that, if you DO have faith that this will not be a scam of a 60b proportion - hit me up for the low low markuponipoprice of 11m each -- 22m total thank you, please drive thru. solid liquid
Kitex Blacktag Test Labs	Posted - 2007.12.02 08:19:00 - [503] Well, the 2nd vote is over. This time, I'm showing 0% on all options. Do you all see the same thing? I just don't understand why the vote keeps coming out so funky. Maybe it will update after downtime. Or maybe baby Jesus just doesn't want this vote to take place. Blacktag - Buy ships / Fittings / Drones / Ammo in BULK with Delivery!
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.02 08:29:00 - [504] Originally by: Kitex Well, the 2nd vote is over. This time, I'm showing 0% on all options. Do you all see the same thing? I just don't understand why the vote keeps coming out so funky. Maybe it will update after downtime. Or maybe baby Jesus just doesn't want this vote to take place. Thats a bug, that, if you are to believe the GM's, doesnt exist Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.02 10:02:00 - [505] Works fine for me: Liquidate: 61.56% Continue with carriers etc: 10.19% Branch out into new stuff: 28.25% I'm pleased to see that the option I originally voted for has gained more support. I suppose the massive swing towards liquidation is due to Wylker not voting? My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.02 10:28:00 - [506] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Works fine for me: Liquidate: 61.56% Continue with carriers etc: 10.19% Branch out into new stuff: 28.25% I'm pleased to see that the option I originally voted for has gained more support. I suppose the massive swing towards liquidation is due to Wylker not voting? Wow, thats a massive swing. Just liquidate now Wylker and lets move on. Please? Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.02 12:01:00 - [507] Show me the money! ...is what I would be saying if I'd invested in this. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.02 13:26:00 - [508] Startling turn of events. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.	Posted - 2007.12.02 14:13:00 - [509] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Works fine for me: Liquidate: 61.56% Continue with carriers etc: 10.19% Branch out into new stuff: 28.25% I'm pleased to see that the option I originally voted for has gained more support. I suppose the massive swing towards liquidation is due to Wylker not voting? How dumb can you possibly be? Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Sales Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Discussion
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.	Posted - 2007.12.02 14:14:00 - [510] Looks like the vote is in, and with a little under 25% participation it is in favor of liquidation. So we'll get that going here. Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Sales Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Discussion

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