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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.11.10 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic As has been advertised by myself and others of late trying to smear my appearance I have had plenty of bad calls in my time too (read: C-P-H IPO) and I don't consider myself incompetent as a result.
IMHO, if you didn't jump in to defend people, or just add your comments, so much... you wouldn't be in line for so many punches. I think this spat between you two should not have started, went overly long, and is a total derailment. (Tsk, tsk, shame no you two  ) That being said, go back to your respective corners and simply wait for the next round. During the break try to arrange it so that there is not a next round. Thank you and goodnight.
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Ricdics
Corporate Placement Holding Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 16:01:00 -
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I have 1 question for Wylker. Can we please get a date for our first dividend? The last few pages tell different dates but to the best of my knowledge from reading the thread we can expect dividend #1 on the 15th of November. Is this correct? Insured Research and Production Services Queues |

LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdics I have 1 question for Wylker. Can we please get a date for our first dividend? The last few pages tell different dates but to the best of my knowledge from reading the thread we can expect dividend #1 on the 15th of November. Is this correct?
Isnt it the 16th?
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Ricdic's Hoe
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Posted - 2007.11.10 16:08:00 -
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sorry yeh it would seem so based on this post. Just wanted to make sure everything was on track for the dividend
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:01:00 -
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I contacted Wylker on SHC to ask him what his plans were and got this reply:
Quote: Good questions, I am working on an alternate plan right now. At this exact moment sales have completely stopped, except for people that are selling them at or below cost. I am hoping that this is just people holding their breath while waiting to see the final verdict on the ships.
Most likely I won't make a firm decision until Trinity comes out, but the current dev replies are giving me some hope for post-nerf sales. I actually originally had some mothership clients lined up (that were going to pre-pay non refundable deposits to cover potential losses) but right now no one wants those either.
My aim was to build capitals though, so if the Rorqual market looks like it is going to blow up (I very seriously doubt this) I will see if it can deliver the profits I was hoping for. If not I will likely look towards liquidating because my interest was not to just run some general production corp, it was to build carriers.
The last possibility is to perhaps try to capture some of the early market on the new T2 ships, as i have several max skilled invention characters. This would only go towards recouping potential losses of liquidating, as long term invention sucks.
In short, right now it's wait and see.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I contacted Wylker on SHC to ask him what his plans were and got this reply:
I even tried to add him to messenger. But no luck.
So i just chatted to his CEO, who said that he, as far as he knew, still doing capital components for the ships.
The fact that you have to post, Kazuo, is a bad move on Wylker's part.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:28:00 -
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I intend to work with him to see what we can do to salvage the IPO, or at least make the best of a bad situation. If I was in his position I'd want all the encouragement I could get. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |

LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I intend to work with him to see what we can do to salvage the IPO, or at least make the best of a bad situation. If I was in his position I'd want all the encouragement I could get.
But that doesnt limit him from at least speaking to us 
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:46:00 -
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Rawcola vouches for PSI:
rawcola > Hello! rawcola > What is PSI! LaVista Vista > Bond share corp! rawcola > Is new yes! LaVista Vista > No! rawcola > What is for! LaVista Vista > Capital production! rawcola > Excellent! rawcola > Is for make Archon and Revelation yes! LaVista Vista > yes! rawcola > Excellent bond!
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista Rawcola vouches for PSI:
rawcola > Hello! rawcola > What is PSI! LaVista Vista > Bond share corp! rawcola > Is new yes! LaVista Vista > No! rawcola > What is for! LaVista Vista > Capital production! rawcola > Excellent! rawcola > Is for make Archon and Revelation yes! LaVista Vista > yes! rawcola > Excellent bond!
Is Rawcola an investor? If so, is he reading the posts about this - not the ones from Wy, he seems to have a problem posting.
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: LaVista Vista Rawcola vouches for PSI:
rawcola > Hello! rawcola > What is PSI! LaVista Vista > Bond share corp! rawcola > Is new yes! LaVista Vista > No! rawcola > What is for! LaVista Vista > Capital production! rawcola > Excellent! rawcola > Is for make Archon and Revelation yes! LaVista Vista > yes! rawcola > Excellent bond!
Is Rawcola an investor? If so, is he reading the posts about this - not the ones from Wy, he seems to have a problem posting.
Dont know either. But thats the log from a convo i had with him.
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Kitex
Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.11.10 18:17:00 -
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If "Wait and see" is truly the plan, I'm assuming we'll see no return on this for quite some time to come.
If you don't have anything else to offer, Wylker, I ask that you immediately put this to a liquidation vote.
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Ricdic's Hoe
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Posted - 2007.11.10 18:55:00 -
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Thanks for the into guys. My main hope was to just know the date of the next dividend, that's all.
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic's Hoe Thanks for the into guys. My main hope was to just know the date of the next dividend, that's all.
Ric - why are you jumping between your main and your Hoe? Makes it harder to follow when I dont see your mushot and know who's talking  When was Wylker last online anyway or made a single post somewhere?
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
Post with your alt.
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Kitex
Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.11.10 19:16:00 -
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The more I think about this, the more uptight I get about it.
It takes some balls to suggest you're just going to let 40b sit idle for another few months, after which you may or may not liquidate based on market changes that come with Trinity.
If there is some aspect to your plan that we don't know about, please post it. I, for one, won't bother chasing you down on a third party forum to engage you in a conversation regarding 40b you raised right here in this one.
If your post quoted above is truly the meat and potatoes of your plan, I'm asking you to liquidate right now rather than later. I have no confidence in you as the manager of this investment, and if you won't even put liquidation to a vote, I'll just start to consider this a 40b isk scam.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.10 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Ricdic's Hoe Thanks for the into guys. My main hope was to just know the date of the next dividend, that's all.
Ric - why are you jumping between your main and your Hoe? Makes it harder to follow when I dont see your mushot and know who's talking  When was Wylker last online anyway or made a single post somewhere?
Hes been on for a while this evening, but doesnt respond.
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Kitex
Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.11.11 02:17:00 -
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From the in-game mail list Wylker set up for this IPO, in response to my request for more information, Wylker's corp-mate Trixie Baggz had this to say:
Quote: Hi Kitex
Due to the amazing****gotry I have seen from you and certain other people in this mailing list I have advised Wylker to take your money and tell you to **** off. God I hate you, die of aids.
Kisses and Lollipops
xoxoxoxoxox
That's pleasant company you keep, Wylker.
Liquidate this. You don't have the skills to run it, as you've demonstrated.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.11.11 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kitex From the in-game mail list Wylker set up for this IPO, in response to my request for more information, Wylker's corp-mate Trixie Baggz had this to say:
Quote: Hi Kitex
Due to the amazing****gotry I have seen from you and certain other people in this mailing list I have advised Wylker to take your money and tell you to **** off. God I hate you, die of aids.
Kisses and Lollipops
xoxoxoxoxox
Now that is class!
Anytime someone who runs an IPO refuses to post on the forums you know things are going bad. It's not like he doesn't know there are posts, he just refuses to post here. Sorry guys, looks like this is heading more towards scam every time more info comes out. If he is too far gone to even make a post then I don't see any chance he will have the character to liquidate. If he cared about his rep he'd have made some posts here to try and salvage his rep.
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Ghost Emperor
Amarr EvE Mutual Fund Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.11 02:57:00 -
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Dear Researchii, Wylker Well as a large investor one would have hoped for more feedback, I haven't posted in this thread to date but feel the need to ask for an update, or some contact as I might be able to help with plans etc. I seem to have been left off the investor mailing list as well...so feeling lonely like here :o
But let me know either way, as if we at EMFI are on a highway to some losses it helps to sort the books out earlier ;)
If the goings tought then its a shame, but you could even place a buyback, or seek BPO buyers etc? Gibve me a shout/convo to see whats going on plz, GL
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Kitex
Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.11.11 03:04:00 -
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Ghost, I believe you can join the mailing list yourself if you're interested in it. Just search for and join "PSI Mailing List" from the Mailing Lists tab.
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Ghost Emperor
Amarr EvE Mutual Fund Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.11 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kitex Ghost, I believe you can join the mailing list yourself if you're interested in it. Just search for and join "PSI Mailing List" from the Mailing Lists tab.
Thanks for the feedback...me feeling noobish now ;) but learning curves are good....and eve always has that to offer :O TY Visit EvE Galactic Stock Exchange and Real-time Eve Stock Exchange (in game or out, but trades in game). For E |

LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.11 08:33:00 -
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Wow, Wylker isnt exactly having his corp help him on this one.
Is it time to request an auditor perhaps? Because this is really starting to stink.
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:14:00 -
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I am going to reserve judgement for now. Wylker has advised the 16th he will provide an update/dividend so I am willing to wait for this. I think attacking him etc won't resolve the issue, I don't want him to get to a point where he just walks away keeping everything. Obviously if this was his intention it will happen either way, but I invested because I did believe he valued his reputation and I will continue to assume this until we see what path things take on and beyond the 16th.
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Strobe S
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:41:00 -
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IPO's have been generally good lately then we get Blue Dice and now this with wylker.
I really hope wylker does provide something useful on the 16th.
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FastLearner
Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.12 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: FastLearner on 12/11/2007 01:13:15
Originally by: Ricdic I am going to reserve judgement for now.
Yeah, there could be a perfectly valid reason for being active on ohter forums but not here - would be a shame to call him incompetent when maybe his computer just blocked all eve-related IPs or something and there was nothing he could do. Most likely he just had some selective glitch: and it would be horrbily unfair to claim that his lack of posting here was anything other than an involuntary problem casued by some technical issue.
Alternatively maybe he's just incompentent and/or full of ****?
Simple question: would EBank lend me money if it was secured on Wylker's shares? (obvioiusly it would be through alts).
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Ricdic's Hoe
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Posted - 2007.11.12 01:40:00 -
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No EBANK would not lend money on the face value of PSI. You knew that answer already . I don't doubt the way this is being handled is terrible but I figure if he is on the cusp of either calling scam or fixing this up, I don't want to push him over that edge. I actually don't like throwing my money away.
I would love to get out of this in some way or other, but if he is borderline scam then it's in our best interests to give him a chance to finish this thing. He has advised that some form of dividend/update will occur on the 16th so I will wait and see what happens then.
I am trying to keep my isk from going down the drain here. However you won't see me compliment or defend his actions
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.11.12 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: FastLearner Yeah, there could be a perfectly valid reason for being active on ohter forums but not here - would be a shame to call him incompetent when maybe his computer just blocked all eve-related IPs or something and there was nothing he could do. Most likely he just had some selective glitch: and it would be horrbily unfair to claim that his lack of posting here was anything other than an involuntary problem casued by some technical issue.
You know, this reminds me of someone else who runs an IPO...
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Meleil
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Posted - 2007.11.12 03:28:00 -
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My scam senses were tingling back in early October. So I liquidated then to some very frisky fellows who wanted all the shares they could get. I have sympathy for those who've stuck it out this long. Which is quite amazing given the severe lack of information being provided to investors. ~Mel
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.11.12 19:37:00 -
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there are no dividends?
all i request is that we dont get a drama bomb on the 16th ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.11.13 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ezoran DuBlaidd on 13/11/2007 01:27:28
Originally by: SiJira there are no dividends?
all i request is that we dont get a drama bomb on the 16th
trixie baggs sent this nice little stick-**** of a message to the psi mailing list today:
2007.11.12 20:23 I'm not saying anything on behalf of the corp or Wylker. I'm saying that my opinion is that he should take the money.
now, i'm just curious, is trixie actually wylker's alt? cuz whomever trixie is, claims to be doing a lot of speaking on behalf of wylker and pretty much everything this ****-tard sends on the mailing list is, on a good, VERY good day - ******* ******** cat ****, and on a bad day, it's a lot worse than ******* ******** cat ****.
so, i'm writing this one off as a loss due to moronic ass-stickery. if something finally comes of this, then ******* wonderful. i for one, am not holding my breath.
edit: yeah, that copied thing says she wasn't speaking on behalf of wylker; but the only "official" information on the mailing list comes from her, in between nonstop profanity filled stupidity that is worthy of any 12 year old away from mommy's eyes and doing bad things that mommy doesn't want him doing.
maybe trixie is really norman and norman is trying to play with those nasty girls. solid liquid |
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