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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.08.06 01:51:00 -
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I have noticed that faction mods are not allowed, however I cannot find anything about faction ammo, seeing as how ammo is not a mod, what is the rule on this? Or if I have missed it somewhere someone please update me
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GM Nova
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.08.06 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat I have noticed that faction mods are not allowed, however I cannot find anything about faction ammo, seeing as how ammo is not a mod, what is the rule on this? Or if I have missed it somewhere someone please update me
Faction ammo is allowed.
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.07 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: GM Nova
Originally by: DHB WildCat I have noticed that faction mods are not allowed, however I cannot find anything about faction ammo, seeing as how ammo is not a mod, what is the rule on this? Or if I have missed it somewhere someone please update me
Faction ammo is allowed.
Any special reason why you couldnt have answered that about one month ago when I asked the exact same question in this thread? Quoting myself since I still want to know about my other questions.
Originally by: Cividari Ive got a couple of simple yes/no questions.
Is faction ammo allowed?
If TeamA starts with 99 points used and TeamB starts with 100 points used, does that mean TeamB has allready "killed" ships worth 1 point?
Lets say TeamA kills half of TeamB for 50 points but TeamB kills all of TeamA for a full 150 points. Even though TeamB wins does TeamA still get 50 points?
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:40:00 -
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lol, civi because every time I post something on EVE -O a red flag gets sent to someone and they have to check it out ASAP 8)
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GM Nova
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.08.07 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 07/08/2007 17:06:24 lol, civi because every time I post something on EVE -O a red flag gets sent to someone and they have to check it out ASAP 8)
and yes could you please answer Civi's questions?
Ive got a couple of simple yes/no questions.
Is faction ammo allowed?
If TeamA starts with 99 points used and TeamB starts with 100 points used, does that mean TeamB has allready "killed" ships worth 1 point?
Lets say TeamA kills half of TeamB for 50 points but TeamB kills all of TeamA for a full 150 points. Even though TeamB wins does TeamA still get 50 points?
I just received the red flag telling me that DHB WildCat posted on EVE -O!!!
Here are the answers. 1. Yes, faction ammo is allowed. 2. Yes, TeamB will begin with 1 point scored in this example. 3. Yes, TeamA still gets to keep the 50 points they scored in the fight.
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Popsikle
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.08 06:56:00 -
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Why isn't pod killing allowed? Full pirate slaves only widen the gap between big alliances and small alliances and base the tourney more on isk invested then skill. Combine that with the rewards and we should just rename it to "The PvP Stock Market". ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime. |
ookke
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Popsikle Why isn't pod killing allowed? Full pirate slaves only widen the gap between big alliances and small alliances and base the tourney more on isk invested then skill. Combine that with the rewards and we should just rename it to "The PvP Stock Market".
Your logic is flawed, and this argument has been had many times over previously in the thread, no need to bring it up again.
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ookke
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: ookke on 08/08/2007 09:56:05 hell, I'll even try to explain it to you.
a) podding allowed
BOB/any other serious alliance: all HG sets, because they can afford to replace them till the end of time if needed.
random crappy RP alliance: lg sets, scared ****less of getting podded.
b) podding not allowed
BOB/any other serious alliance: all HG sets, alliance sponsored.
random crappy RP alliance: lg/hg sets, according to what people can afford. No risk to get podded so bring the best you can get.
How exactly did dis-allowing podding make it worse for the random crappy rp alliance?
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Popsikle
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.08 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: ookke Edited by: ookke on 08/08/2007 09:56:05 hell, I'll even try to explain it to you.
a) podding allowed
BOB/any other serious alliance: all HG sets, because they can afford to replace them till the end of time if needed.
random crappy RP alliance: lg sets, scared ****less of getting podded.
b) podding not allowed
BOB/any other serious alliance: all HG sets, alliance sponsored.
random crappy RP alliance: lg/hg sets, according to what people can afford. No risk to get podded so bring the best you can get.
How exactly did dis-allowing podding make it worse for the random crappy rp alliance?
Its PVP. Only undock with what you can afford to lose, and take your "crappy rp alliance" smack elsewhere, alt. ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime. |
ookke
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Posted - 2007.08.08 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Popsikle
Its PVP. Only undock with what you can afford to lose, and take your "crappy rp alliance" smack elsewhere, alt.
You must be horribly mistaken, the alliance tournament has always been far far away from actual tranquility PVP, and I don't see a need for this to change this year either. "Bring only what you can afford to lose" doesn't make sense when the big boys will all be able to lose hg sets while our "crappy random rp alliance" example probably can't, especially not when they get podded many times over.
PS. You really hurt my feelings by calling me an alt :(
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Templayer
Amarr Monks of War United Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.08 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Templayer on 08/08/2007 15:27:40
Originally by: GM Nova
Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 07/08/2007 17:06:24 lol, civi because every time I post something on EVE -O a red flag gets sent to someone and they have to check it out ASAP 8)
and yes could you please answer Civi's questions?
Ive got a couple of simple yes/no questions.
Is faction ammo allowed?
If TeamA starts with 99 points used and TeamB starts with 100 points used, does that mean TeamB has allready "killed" ships worth 1 point?
Lets say TeamA kills half of TeamB for 50 points but TeamB kills all of TeamA for a full 150 points. Even though TeamB wins does TeamA still get 50 points?
I just received the red flag telling me that DHB WildCat posted on EVE -O!!!
Here are the answers. 1. Yes, faction ammo is allowed. 2. Yes, TeamB will begin with 1 point scored in this example. 3. Yes, TeamA still gets to keep the 50 points they scored in the fight.
How do you pay entrance fee? I've singed,what next? Any guide for NoobieS? :D
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jamesw
Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.08 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Popsikle
Originally by: ookke Edited by: ookke on 08/08/2007 09:56:05 hell, I'll even try to explain it to you.
a) podding allowed
BOB/any other serious alliance: all HG sets, because they can afford to replace them till the end of time if needed.
random crappy RP alliance: lg sets, scared ****less of getting podded.
b) podding not allowed
BOB/any other serious alliance: all HG sets, alliance sponsored.
random crappy RP alliance: lg/hg sets, according to what people can afford. No risk to get podded so bring the best you can get.
How exactly did dis-allowing podding make it worse for the random crappy rp alliance?
Its PVP. Only undock with what you can afford to lose, and take your "crappy rp alliance" smack elsewhere, alt.
Read this. Then call him an alt again. --
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Masu'di
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2007.08.08 18:22:00 -
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call me Mr Cynical, but not having the Thukker Tribe, Khanid, Syndicate etc to champion was a forgone conclusion.
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Popsikle
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.09 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: ookke
Originally by: Popsikle
Its PVP. Only undock with what you can afford to lose, and take your "crappy rp alliance" smack elsewhere, alt.
You must be horribly mistaken, the alliance tournament has always been far far away from actual tranquility PVP, and I don't see a need for this to change this year either. "Bring only what you can afford to lose" doesn't make sense when the big boys will all be able to lose hg sets while our "crappy random rp alliance" example probably can't, especially not when they get podded many times over.
PS. You really hurt my feelings by calling me an alt :(
This thread is in "EveTV and the PvP Championships" section however, so I kinda figured the Championships would be based on real PvP ;p
Sorry about the alt thing, im used to CAOD/IGS where people need their tickers! ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime. |
Stoned Badger
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Posted - 2007.08.09 01:06:00 -
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sorry my maths/ brain power isnt great..
if somone has say.. 7.0 standing to caldai.. and they set their chosen faction to caldari and get the "30%" standing boost. Will this boost put them to 10.0 or will it give them "30% of the difference between 7.0 and 10.0" ?
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Kunming
The Coalition Of Buccaneers Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2007.08.09 01:20:00 -
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You dont need trillions of ISK like BoB to achieve something in this tournament, as far as I can see almost everything is allowed so just use your brain, btw the only difference from real pvp is that you dont fit a warp scrambler...
FYI, me and my alliance is poor as hell before u ask. But we will beat everyone out there if we can gather up the 1bil entry fee
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.09 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming btw the only difference from real pvp is that you dont fit a warp scrambler...
Or rigs. But you are allowed to spend billions on HG pirate sets that aren't available to every team involved..
Logic's great, isn't it?
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StarLite
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.09 08:57:00 -
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I think it's a bit strange rigs are not allowed, their widely available, quote affordable, can fit on every ship, are not imbalanced etc.
What reason is there to disallow them? _______________________________________________________________________
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Sli'co Scoser
Gallente World Order The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.08.09 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: StarLite I think it's a bit strange rigs are not allowed, their widely available, quote affordable, can fit on every ship, are not imbalanced etc.
What reason is there to disallow them?
GM Nova stated that "it would make tanking too effective" which of course makes perfect sense when they allow pirate implants that provide supertanking beyond what most rig combinations can offer.
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GM Nova
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.08.09 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sli'co Scoser
Originally by: StarLite I think it's a bit strange rigs are not allowed, their widely available, quote affordable, can fit on every ship, are not imbalanced etc.
What reason is there to disallow them?
GM Nova stated that "it would make tanking too effective" which of course makes perfect sense when they allow pirate implants that provide supertanking beyond what most rig combinations can offer.
Here is the main reason for allowing implants:
Majoroty of pilots have implants, while only a portion of those that do have jumpclones. If we were to prohibit implants we would be forcing players to either get a jumpclone or in cases where that is not possible, destroy their implants. We do not want to force players to take actions which will disrupt their normal gameplay or limit their ability to participate in the tourney.
I hope you understand this from our perspective.
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GM Nova
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.08.09 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming You dont need trillions of ISK like BoB to achieve something in this tournament, as far as I can see almost everything is allowed so just use your brain, btw the only difference from real pvp is that you dont fit a warp scrambler...
FYI, me and my alliance is poor as hell before u ask. But we will beat everyone out there if we can gather up the 1bil entry fee
Come on guys, help them out.
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Sli'co Scoser
Gallente World Order The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.08.09 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: GM Nova
Originally by: Sli'co Scoser
Originally by: StarLite I think it's a bit strange rigs are not allowed, their widely available, quote affordable, can fit on every ship, are not imbalanced etc.
What reason is there to disallow them?
GM Nova stated that "it would make tanking too effective" which of course makes perfect sense when they allow pirate implants that provide supertanking beyond what most rig combinations can offer.
Here is the main reason for allowing implants:
Majoroty of pilots have implants, while only a portion of those that do have jumpclones. If we were to prohibit implants we would be forcing players to either get a jumpclone or in cases where that is not possible, destroy their implants. We do not want to force players to take actions which will disrupt their normal gameplay or limit their ability to participate in the tourney.
I hope you understand this from our perspective.
But from that perspective as well, what if you want to bring a faction battleship that currently has expensive (T2) rigs on it? Now you would have to either destroy the rigs or go out and buy an identical ship without rigs to use instead of the one with rigs on it.
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GM Nova
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.08.09 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sli'co Scoser
But from that perspective as well, what if you want to bring a faction battleship that currently has expensive (T2) rigs on it? Now you would have to either destroy the rigs or go out and buy an identical ship without rigs to use instead of the one with rigs on it.
You know these are not remotely identical situations. You don't HAVE to bring that ship. On the other hand, with only one clone, you HAVE to bring your current body.
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.09 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: GM Nova I hope you understand this from our perspective.
No, actually, I don't. Jump clones are incredibly easy to get. To say that the majority of pilots have access to pirate implants worth 10s of billions, while the majority of pilots don't have jumpclones is nothing short of moronic.
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GM Nova
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.08.09 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Elmicker
Originally by: GM Nova I hope you understand this from our perspective.
No, actually, I don't. Jump clones are incredibly easy to get. To say that the majority of pilots have access to pirate implants worth 10s of billions, while the majority of pilots don't have jumpclones is nothing short of moronic.
There is no need to be rude. I never said that majority of players have access to pirate implants worth 10s of billions, you did. You say that jump clones are incredibly easy to get but that may apply to you but not to some. Since this tournament is not about you my argument stands.
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Hukiraman
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Posted - 2007.08.09 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: GM Nova
Originally by: Elmicker
Originally by: GM Nova I hope you understand this from our perspective.
No, actually, I don't. Jump clones are incredibly easy to get. To say that the majority of pilots have access to pirate implants worth 10s of billions, while the majority of pilots don't have jumpclones is nothing short of moronic.
There is no need to be rude. I never said that majority of players have access to pirate implants worth 10s of billions, you did. You say that jump clones are incredibly easy to get but that may apply to you but not to some. Since this tournament is not about you my argument stands.
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Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.08.09 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: GM Nova
There is no need to be rude. I never said that majority of players have access to pirate implants worth 10s of billions, you did. You say that jump clones are incredibly easy to get but that may apply to you but not to some. Since this tournament is not about you my argument stands.
WTB someone who actually plays the game to make up the rules next time
Anyone that rolls with pirate implants either has jump clones, or is already too rich for their own good. Only these 2 categories can afford to engage in any sort of fleet engagement (this is the ALLIANCE tournament afterall) with the current state of your servers.
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.09 23:27:00 -
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Edited by: Elmicker on 09/08/2007 23:28:55
Originally by: GM Nova There is no need to be rude. I never said that majority of players have access to pirate implants worth 10s of billions, you did.
You said that most of the pilots will have implants. Since the discussion was in specific reference to the pirate implant sets it was logical to assume that was what you were talking about. And trust me, calling your comments moronic was far from rude. If you think that my comments on the situation were "rude", you seriously need to venture out into the greater eve community some time and see what others have written about this farce.
Quote: You say that jump clones are incredibly easy to get but that may apply to you but not to some.
This is an alliance tournament. All but one or two of those alliances will own their own outposts, thus have access to free and plentiful jump clones (limited only by the skill). Those alliances who do not own outposts are more than likely resourceful enough to gain standings with an entity for long enough to make sure their implant sets are safe.
Or, you know, CCP could provide temporary jump clones in jove space. God forbid you actually help the competitors to make this a more entertaining and fun tournament .
Quote: Since this tournament is not about you my argument stands.
I'm sorry? What has that got to do with anything? Your logic is flawed, and mine is correct. The fact that FreeFall does not (currently)have a team entered into the contest should have no bearing whatsoever on the issue. You claim that JCs are unavailable to certain pilots, and you are wrong.
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QwaarJet
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.10 05:16:00 -
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Once again we bare witness to Nova's crazy man logic.
How in the hell is it easier to get implants than jump clones?
You say this is about the alliances, but if your an alliance without a station, then you aren't much of Alliance. Jump clones are cheap to get, easy to train for and should be accessible for most alliances.
Implants on the other hand, cost a large sum of money, and i'm willing to bet more alliances can use jump clones than buy sets of expensive implants.
Frankly though, i'm sick or arguing about every point of this tournament, because obviously you think you know better than everyone else here, and thus are ignoring pilot's views on this. So essentially it is a waste of my time telling you what's wrong with this tournament, since you'll ignore it anyway.
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Zuquar Bonaparte
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Posted - 2007.08.10 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ifni
Originally by: Vladimir Tinakin Having never participated in a tournament play in eve before, a few questions spring to mind...
1) The people are fixed for the tournament for each team, correct? Can't add or substitute anyone per match (keeping in mind the 100 pt hull limit)
Once the match starts those on the field are the team for that fight. Under the new rules, you can swap out any member or members of your team for another alliance pilot, as long as the pilot was a member of the alliance at the time your alliance signed up to the tournament.
hi i just need clarification pls. does the pilot need to be member when we signed up or as the rules state , when the fight takes place?
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