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PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:06:00 - [1] Edited by: PWNERIZE on 20/07/2007 03:08:26 It's a non-bonus. I can fit one magnetic field stabilizer a similar damage increase, the same as having BS 4. Every other BS gets two useful bonuses, while the Domi only has one: Drone Damage and HP. The Raven for example, missile velocity and ROF. one which allows your missiles to go faster (whoosh) and the other that makes them do more damage. The Typhoon gets autocannon and missile RoF. Two damage bonuses, yes two!!!! Plain ridiculous. Add to that 175m3 of imbalanced drone bay. Apocalypse. Two great bonuses. One that allows it to keep firing forever (!) if it has rechargers or recharge rigs, the other which means it can tank like crazy. It also does decent damage at a good range. Abaddon: see above but with better damage. 5% Armor resists and 5% large energy turret damage is obviously overpowered. This thread is not about what is the best BS, what works and what doesn't. Instead it is about how the Dominix got cheated out of a second real bonus. As many may have notice, due to the poor damage of blasters (blaster nerf ftl - thank you Tuxford) the Dominix has no use for hybrids in todays eve using mostly Nos instead. Some adjustments are necessary to preserve the competitiveness of Gallente. I think that any of these bonuses would be a suitable replacement for the useless hybrid damage bonus: Armor repair bonus: 5% per level. Not as much as a battlecruiser (7.5%), it would still be an effective bonus, and one that would contribute to the ship. Armor resistance bonus: why not? Other ships already get a 5% resist bonus to their tanks. It's already a proven bonus. Share it with the Domi. Double drone damage bonus. Other ships have double bonuses to damage as well. Why not the Domi? Make the BS second bonus a +5% drone damage bonus (no HP bonus increase). Energy transfer cycle time: let's face it the Domi was made for nos. The Bhaalghorn has that bonus as well and do you hear anyone saying it's overpowered? No. It would only be fair for all the people who had the skill the intense skill requirements for Nos, after all. Every other BS with the possible exception of the Hyperion, and the Megathron (I just had to mention the Megathron) gets two real bonuses. The Domi is left out in the cold. Please think of the Domis.
king jks Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:13:00 - [2] NO.
Selene Le'Cotiere Amarr I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:15:00 - [3] But that's the Domi's role... as a Drone Boat. Have you seen a well skilled drone pilot cause havoc with those little darlings?
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:15:00 - [4] YES. The domi performs well right now but that's not the point. The point is that it has a non bonus. Wouldn't you rather it have energy emission systems duration, say 20% reduction per level?!
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:16:00 - [5] Guess I'm the only one out there that puts guns on my domi... ---------------- Originally by: "Cyberus" cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.
NoNah Marzipan Monkeys Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:18:00 - [6] Edited by: NoNah on 20/07/2007 03:22:31 Originally by: PWNERIZE YES. The domi performs well right now but that's not the point. The point is that it has a non bonus. Wouldn't you rather it have energy emission systems duration, say 20% reduction per level?! Wheee! 100% reduction in duration at lvl 5, insta 0 cap! The bonus is most certainly not a non-bonus, blaster domis are ebil. The Bhaalgorn IS overpowered. Its probably the strongest 1on1 ship there is. However, its a 1.5 bil ship which cant be fully insured and can basically only be obtained in whats now BoB space. Domi is 19 mil to replace. The Apoc... It's funny to see someone saying its bonuses are to good. This one got well... no bonuses at all. With max skills, it still cant run its guns constantly, without extra modules, or low cap crystals. Not to mention it cant even fit a full rack of its largest guns, without fitting modules, and max skills. Yes, its got plenty of cap, and is the most cap hungry of most ships. Post count: 795433
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:19:00 - [7] Originally by: Dahak2150 Guess I'm the only one out there that puts guns on my domi... I would if I had one, but I'm going for Astarte (till January). ------------------- ნỊs uʍop əpỊsdn
General Coochie Gallente New Justice Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:19:00 - [8] And still a nos domi is considerd one of the most imbalanced things in this game . Also Domi gotta have the most DPS potential of all battleships if fitted gank?
Vmir Gallahasen Gallente Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:20:00 - [9] Edited by: Vmir Gallahasen on 20/07/2007 03:20:12 The bonus is fine just as it is. I don't know why people feel that they must fit nos on their domi -- in fact, a blaster domi is quite effective. Originally by: PWNERIZE Energy transfer cycle time: let's face it the Domi was made for nos Says who? It looks like it has a hybrid damage bonus to me, actually. Quote: The Bhaalghorn has that bonus as well and do you hear anyone saying it's overpowered? No. Not everyone and their dog flies a Bhaalghorn though. Even my grandma flies a dominix. They're everywhere, they always have the same setup, they're ..... boring. The reason the domi is one of the "best" pvp bs around atm is not because the dominix itself is above other bs, but that nos are just that much better than guns when you have a secondary damage source. And blasters are fine; I have no idea who told you they weren't but they're wrong. Good day (Edit) From the 20% level/comment, I suddenly have the feeling this is a joke thread
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:22:00 - [10] Originally by: General Coochie And still a nos domi is considerd one of the most imbalanced things in this game . You are correct. Your point being? As Gallente players we deserve this ship.
king jks Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:23:00 - [11] ................._,-~'» ; ; ; ; ;'\,----,................................................................,~'' . . . . . . . . . . __,-~~'» .........,_,-~'»; ; ; ; ;,-'»»»'' '»~'\,\|,........................................................_,-~' . . . . . . . ._,--~'''»» ...... '»»; ; ; ; ; ;_. ,/' . . .»'o~- '\|................................................_,-~-~'» . , . . . . »»\, . . '\, ......»»,-~_ . /' . '\\| . . . . . . . .'\......................................._,-~'»,/',/' . . . . .»»»'~----,,,\,,,, .'\, ...........»»--, .'\, . . . . . . ,--~-,' '\|.............................._,-~'» ; ;;;;; \| .\| . . . . . . . . . . . : . .\|»'\| .\| ................."\,-'»''\|, . . .,/' »»'-/'/......................._,-~'»»; ; ;;;;;;;;;;;; '\| .'\| . . . . . . . . . .___,,--~'~''\| ...................\| . . '\, . . '\,; ; ;\|/'.__,-~~--,_,/'»»'~'»; ; ;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; '\|,'\, ---,_,,---~'''»\\''~''''»»,--~/'' ................../'____ '''`~-,,,--~'''»» ; ; ; ; ; /' ; ;;;;; ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;'\, .'~-,,-~''~---~''''~---~~'''» ................,/'»'\, . .»»,~';;;;;;; ; ;/' ; ; ; ; ; ;;;;;/ ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;'~,--~''»»';,/' ..............,/',--,-~',_,~'' ;/';;;;;;;;;/';; ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;'~-,_,/'/' ..........,,~'\| /' /' . ,~'~-,;;;;;;;;;;;;\|;; ;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; ;,__,,,,,,-----~~'''» ......,~'' ,/'/'/ : \| .,/';;;,~';;;;;;;;;;;;'\,;;;;;; ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;_,-~''»» ....,/' ;,/;;;\|' : :\|,/';;-~' »»» ;;;;;;;;;;''\, ; ; ;;;;;;; ;_,,,---~~'''»» ...,\|;;;;'\|;;;\| :,/';;,~' \|;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; '\;;;;; ; ;;,/' ...\|';;;;;'\|;;\| /',~';;;;\|';;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;''~-~''»/ ..,\|;\|;;;;;\;\|\|/';;;;;;;\|';;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;/' ,/'\|;'\|;;;;;;,\|';;;;;;;;\|';;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; ;,/' ;;;\|;\|;;;;,\|';;;;;;;;;;\|';;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; ; ; ;,/' GTFO
TehPro	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:23:00 - [12] Mates, honestly, dont feed the trolls. mkay?
El'essar Viocragh Minmatar FSK23	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:23:00 - [13] Originally by: PWNERIZE The Typhoon gets autocannon and missile RoF. Two damage bonuses, yes two!!!! Plain ridiculous. Add to that 175m3 of imbalanced drone bay. Next time think of the fact that the phoon has a 4/4 split weapon layout and every bonus therefor affects only half of the guns. In essence, it is one damage bonus. This will benefit your trolling next time. -- [17:47] <Mephysto> its dead, jim
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:24:00 - [14] Originally by: TehPro Mates, honestly, dont feed the trolls. mkay? Troll? You're a troll. King JKS is a troll. I'm showing you how ridiculous someone is in his requests.
NoNah Marzipan Monkeys Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:25:00 - [15] Originally by: TehPro Mates, honestly, dont feed the trolls. mkay? Bah, its not easy being a trollitarian, it seemed so hungry! Post count: 62892
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:31:00 - [16] I find your lack of perception disturbing.
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:31:00 - [17] The Domi is just fine as it is. The Domi can fit several Dual 250mm Railguns, along with awesome drones and a strong tank. This makes for a very effective mission-running ship. I don' think the Domi is going to go obsolete any time soon. In fact, I think this whole thread was started just to give Ben Helmsmann a coronary.
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:33:00 - [18] Originally by: FT Diomedes The Domi is just fine as it is. The Domi can fit several Dual 250mm Railguns, along with awesome drones and a strong tank. This makes for a very effective mission-running ship. I don' think the Domi is going to go obsolete any time soon. In fact, I think this whole thread was started just to give Ben Helmsmann a coronary. You are quite close. The person this thread is based on is a myth, a legend. A man of Ben Helmsmann caliber.
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:40:00 - [19] Originally by: PWNERIZE Originally by: FT Diomedes The Domi is just fine as it is. The Domi can fit several Dual 250mm Railguns, along with awesome drones and a strong tank. This makes for a very effective mission-running ship. I don' think the Domi is going to go obsolete any time soon. In fact, I think this whole thread was started just to give Ben Helmsmann a coronary. You are quite close. The person this thread is based on is a myth, a legend. A man of Ben Helmsmann caliber. CYVOK? ------------------- ნỊs uʍop əpỊsdn
Selene Le'Cotiere Amarr I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:41:00 - [20] Originally by: xHalcyonx Originally by: PWNERIZE Originally by: FT Diomedes The Domi is just fine as it is. The Domi can fit several Dual 250mm Railguns, along with awesome drones and a strong tank. This makes for a very effective mission-running ship. I don' think the Domi is going to go obsolete any time soon. In fact, I think this whole thread was started just to give Ben Helmsmann a coronary. You are quite close. The person this thread is based on is a myth, a legend. A man of Ben Helmsmann caliber. CYVOK? Who's CYVOK? Really I don't know.
General Coochie Gallente New Justice Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:45:00 - [21] Originally by: PWNERIZE Originally by: General Coochie And still a nos domi is considerd one of the most imbalanced things in this game . You are correct. Your point being? that it doesnt really need a rep or resistance bonus. it would make it even better as a NOS boat and I dont think anyone really wants that, well except for you maybe.
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:45:00 - [22] Edited by: xHalcyonx on 20/07/2007 03:45:10 Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere Originally by: xHalcyonx Originally by: PWNERIZE Originally by: FT Diomedes The Domi is just fine as it is. The Domi can fit several Dual 250mm Railguns, along with awesome drones and a strong tank. This makes for a very effective mission-running ship. I don' think the Domi is going to go obsolete any time soon. In fact, I think this whole thread was started just to give Ben Helmsmann a coronary. You are quite close. The person this thread is based on is a myth, a legend. A man of Ben Helmsmann caliber. CYVOK? Who's CYVOK? Really I don't know. First man to have a Titan, First man to lose a Titan. ------------------- ნỊs uʍop əpỊsdn
Lord Berk Amarr Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.07.20 06:45:00 - [23] Originally by: PWNERIZE Edited by: PWNERIZE on 20/07/2007 03:08:26 Apocalypse. Two great bonuses. And here would be where you lose any semblance of credibility. Kill it! It's killing me.
Rania Serlia World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.07.20 06:57:00 - [24] The 5% hybrid damage bonus is extremely useful if you just, for once, try fitting like, guns. Nearly 1200 dps on a domi with T2 electrons+2MFS with a moderate(4 slot) tank, obviously overpowered.
Mjojjnir Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.07.20 06:59:00 - [25] Originally by: PWNERIZE Edited by: PWNERIZE on 20/07/2007 03:08:26 No. It would only be fair for all the people who had the skill the intense skill requirements for Nos, after all. Those NOS skill requirements are really hard to train afterall. I mean a whole rank 3 skill to lvl 5, that must really hurt compared to other T2 offensive modules...
Litus Arowar Amarr Obsidian Asylum Pure.	Posted - 2007.07.20 07:31:00 - [26] guys, he's just making fun of murder one's post, grow that part of your brain that lets you detect sarcasm Benn Helmsman> Could a mod give this guy a snip for constant insulting without giving any point to the topic?
DeadRow Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.07.20 07:33:00 - [27] Originally by: king jks NO. /DeadRow
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:01:00 - [28] Originally by: king jks ................._,-~'» ; ; ; ; ;'\,----,................................................................,~'' . . . . . . . . . . __,-~~'» .........,_,-~'»; ; ; ; ;,-'»»»'' '»~'\,\|,........................................................_,-~' . . . . . . . ._,--~'''»» ...... '»»; ; ; ; ; ;_. ,/' . . .»'o~- '\|................................................_,-~-~'» . , . . . . »»\, . . '\, ......»»,-~_ . /' . '\\| . . . . . . . .'\......................................._,-~'»,/',/' . . . . .»»»'~----,,,\,,,, .'\, ...........»»--, .'\, . . . . . . ,--~-,' '\|.............................._,-~'» ; ;;;;; \| .\| . . . . . . . . . . . : . .\|»'\| .\| ................."\,-'»''\|, . . .,/' »»'-/'/......................._,-~'»»; ; ;;;;;;;;;;;; '\| .'\| . . . . . . . . . .___,,--~'~''\| ...................\| . . '\, . . '\,; ; ;\|/'.__,-~~--,_,/'»»'~'»; ; ;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; '\|,'\, ---,_,,---~'''»\\''~''''»»,--~/'' ................../'____ '''`~-,,,--~'''»» ; ; ; ; ; /' ; ;;;;; ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;'\, .'~-,,-~''~---~''''~---~~'''» ................,/'»'\, . .»»,~';;;;;;; ; ;/' ; ; ; ; ; ;;;;;/ ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;'~,--~''»»';,/' ..............,/',--,-~',_,~'' ;/';;;;;;;;;/';; ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;'~-,_,/'/' ..........,,~'\| /' /' . ,~'~-,;;;;;;;;;;;;\|;; ;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; ;,__,,,,,,-----~~'''» ......,~'' ,/'/'/ : \| .,/';;;,~';;;;;;;;;;;;'\,;;;;;; ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;_,-~''»» ....,/' ;,/;;;\|' : :\|,/';;-~' »»» ;;;;;;;;;;''\, ; ; ;;;;;;; ;_,,,---~~'''»» ...,\|;;;;'\|;;;\| :,/';;,~' \|;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; '\;;;;; ; ;;,/' ...\|';;;;;'\|;;\| /',~';;;;\|';;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;''~-~''»/ ..,\|;\|;;;;;\;\|\|/';;;;;;;\|';;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;/' ,/'\|;'\|;;;;;;,\|';;;;;;;;\|';;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; ;,/' ;;;\|;\|;;;;,\|';;;;;;;;;;\|';;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; ; ; ;,/' GTFO The above is quite possibly the most impressive display of forum-fu I have ever witnessed. That is all. Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:03:00 - [29] Originally by: PWNERIZE Edited by: PWNERIZE on 20/07/2007 03:08:26 It's a non-bonus. I can fit one magnetic field stabilizer a similar damage increase, the same as having BS 4. Every other BS gets two useful bonuses, while the Domi only has one: Drone Damage and HP. The Raven for example, missile velocity and ROF. one which allows your missiles to go faster (whoosh) and the other that makes them do more damage. The Typhoon gets autocannon and missile RoF. Two damage bonuses, yes two!!!! Plain ridiculous. Add to that 175m3 of imbalanced drone bay. Apocalypse. Two great bonuses. One that allows it to keep firing forever (!) if it has rechargers or recharge rigs, the other which means it can tank like crazy. It also does decent damage at a good range. Abaddon: see above but with better damage. 5% Armor resists and 5% large energy turret damage is obviously overpowered. This thread is not about what is the best BS, what works and what doesn't. Instead it is about how the Dominix got cheated out of a second real bonus. As many may have notice, due to the poor damage of blasters (blaster nerf ftl - thank you Tuxford) the Dominix has no use for hybrids in todays eve using mostly Nos instead. Some adjustments are necessary to preserve the competitiveness of Gallente. I think that any of these bonuses would be a suitable replacement for the useless hybrid damage bonus: Armor repair bonus: 5% per level. Not as much as a battlecruiser (7.5%), it would still be an effective bonus, and one that would contribute to the ship. Armor resistance bonus: why not? Other ships already get a 5% resist bonus to their tanks. It's already a proven bonus. Share it with the Domi. Double drone damage bonus. Other ships have double bonuses to damage as well. Why not the Domi? Make the BS second bonus a +5% drone damage bonus (no HP bonus increase). Energy transfer cycle time: let's face it the Domi was made for nos. The Bhaalghorn has that bonus as well and do you hear anyone saying it's overpowered? No. It would only be fair for all the people who had the skill the intense skill requirements for Nos, after all. Every other BS with the possible exception of the Hyperion, and the Megathron (I just had to mention the Megathron) gets two real bonuses. The Domi is left out in the cold. Please think of the Domis. Imitation, and indeed, imitation coupled with sarcasm, is quite possibly the most sincere form of flattery possible. Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
Zacheria Malfor Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:14:00 - [30] The Dominix's bonuses should not be changed, just because the majority choose to fly this beautiful ship as a nos-boat does not mean the rest of the pilots out there do. The Dominix is an incridbly versatile and formidable (sp?) predator with the appropriate skills and money to back it. There are many pilots out there who swear by the Dominix when fitted with guns, just because you are incapable of coming up with a set-up which makes full use of the Dominix's abilities does not mean that those who are able to should suffer. Do not fear the reaper, for death is the only certainty in life.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:15:00 - [31] Originally by: Zacheria Malfor The Dominix's bonuses should not be changed, just because the majority choose to fly this beautiful ship as a nos-boat does not mean the rest of the pilots out there do. The Dominix is an incridbly versatile and formidable (sp?) predator with the appropriate skills and money to back it. There are many pilots out there who swear by the Dominix when fitted with guns, just because you are incapable of coming up with a set-up which makes full use of the Dominix's abilities does not mean that those who are able to should suffer. Is everyone on this forum except myself just slow, or what? Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
Zacheria Malfor Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:17:00 - [32] Edited by: Zacheria Malfor on 20/07/2007 08:18:44 Originally by: murder one Originally by: Zacheria Malfor The Dominix's bonuses should not be changed, just because the majority choose to fly this beautiful ship as a nos-boat does not mean the rest of the pilots out there do. The Dominix is an incridbly versatile and formidable (sp?) predator with the appropriate skills and money to back it. There are many pilots out there who swear by the Dominix when fitted with guns, just because you are incapable of coming up with a set-up which makes full use of the Dominix's abilities does not mean that those who are able to should suffer. Is everyone on this forum except myself just slow, or what? Early morning and I quickly scanned the thread, there is no need for personal attacks. Edit - Also, this is down to my own neglegence evidently, I don't read the forums every day, nor do I read every single post so unfortunately I missed the fact that this thread is intended as a satirical view of something you have posted. Do not fear the reaper, for death is the only certainty in life.
Damned Force	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:22:00 - [33] I hope this thread is a joke? even thats needed to come. If Gallente's saying that a damage bonus on the one of the best pvp ships is useless. and they mean that is unfair. U know what bonuses are useless, the amarr cap bonuses, or the caldari just kin bonuses. Oh GOD where u was if such idiots was born??
Kua Immortal RSP Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:28:00 - [34] I think its quite evident that The Domi needs a nos bonus or a rep bonus before its worth flying :P.
Damned Force	Posted - 2007.07.20 08:30:00 - [35] Originally by: Kua Immortal I think its quite evident that The Domi needs a nos bonus or a rep bonus before its worth flying :P. Or both, and maybe 9 high and 12 low slots, and some EW bonus would be nice too :D
Kua Immortal RSP Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:08:00 - [36] Originally by: Damned Force Originally by: Kua Immortal I think its quite evident that The Domi needs a nos bonus or a rep bonus before its worth flying :P. Or both, and maybe 9 high and 12 low slots, and some EW bonus would be nice too :D CCP: Hire this man!
nakKEDK Gallente North Face Force	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:24:00 - [37] Edited by: nakKEDK on 20/07/2007 09:26:10 PWNERIZE, you dont have a cue what you're talking about. first of all, all ships that have 5% resistance bonus are amarr and caldari, second there is no other tier 1 and 2 ships that have resistance, or rep bonus. and the dominix is one of the best 1v1 ships, in my experience. then you say typhoon is overpowered, because it has 2 damage bonuses and 175 m3 dronebay, well think again, it has 12500 pg, no tracking bonus, hard to fit tank and guns(without rigs). the 2 damage bonuses are missiles and projectiles, so its the same as 1 damage bonus, if you could fit like 6-7 guns, but you cant. then you talk about abaddon, its not overpowered. with resistance and damage bonus. all tier 3 bs have resistance or rep bonus and damage bonus, except rokh. on abaddon it's hard to tank, because you need capacitor, because amarr guns uses alot of capacitor. so please dont compare tier 1-3 bs. dont bother arguing with me, cause im allways right. Well at least sometimes.
Roger Arko Geddonites	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:26:00 - [38] Ehm, Domi is already one of the best BS's in game. With t2 sentries you can even snipe with it for some heavy dps... Also domi gets 2 bonuses if you didn't notice - to drones and to large hybrids.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:27:00 - [39] This is a joke thread, yes?
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.20 09:42:00 - [40] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus This is a joke thread, yes? No it's deadly serious, I would also like a different bonus for the Domi. Personally I'd like to see it with a nos bonus of some kind, like more range or something.
Tammarr	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:03:00 - [41] O_o o_O O_O I fit large blasters to my domi so its definetly a bonus thats get taken use of
volly Amarr SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:10:00 - [42] Originally by: PWNERIZE Apocalypse. Two great bonuses. One that allows it to keep firing forever (!) if it has rechargers or recharge rigs, the other which means it can tank like crazy. It also does decent damage at a good range. [/quote Burn in Hell
General Coochie Gallente New Justice Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:31:00 - [43] Not all of us read every thread on these forums, hence hard to know it was sarcasm directed to a specifik individual. Fair enough then.
Roger Arko Geddonites	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:34:00 - [44] Originally by: Tammarr O_o o_O O_O I fit large blasters to my domi so its definetly a bonus thats get taken use of Indeed. Blasterdomi ftw.
jamesw Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:36:00 - [45] I KNOW! Let's give it a NOS bonus and a DAMP bonus! That way - we could have a specialised NOS / EW DOMI! I bet everyone would like that! -- Latest Vid: Domination!
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:54:00 - [46] Originally by: General Coochie Not all of us read every thread on these forums, hence hard to know it was sarcasm directed to a specifik individual. Fair enough then. Rly? I thought it was quite obvious just from how daft the OP was, I had not even read Murder One's thread. Here's some clues: Quote: The Typhoon gets autocannon and missile RoF. Two damage bonuses, yes two!!!! Plain ridiculous. Add to that 175m3 of imbalanced drone bay. Quote: Apocalypse. Two great bonuses. Quote: As Gallente players we deserve this ship. People in this forum are the most trollable I've encountered tbh.
LMAAAOOOO	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:56:00 - [47] Obviously a joke thread, or the op is a noob/reetard Although the Myrm should get rid of its 7.5% armor rep bonus for a 5% hybrid. _______________________________________________ Originally by: murder one lmaaaoooo has made it into my sig.
n0thing omen.	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:03:00 - [48] OP poorly tried to copy thread that was made about Ishtar. I cant find it funny nor usefull. At least consider thinking about comparing damage bonus and control range bonus before trying to copy threads. Good day. ---
Neena Valdi Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:25:00 - [49] Originally by: jamesw I KNOW! Let's give it a NOS bonus and a DAMP bonus! That way - we could have a specialised NOS / EW DOMI! I bet everyone would like that! One extra med slot and 1000 more powergrid. Please. Pretty please!
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:43:00 - [50] Originally by: Zacheria Malfor The Dominix's bonuses should not be changed, just because the majority choose to fly this beautiful ship as a nos-boat does not mean the rest of the pilots out there do. Please, don't mix "Dominix" and "beautiful" in the same phrase. I'll grant you it's a wonderful ship, versatile and all, but let's face it, it's ugly as sin!! Originally by: Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts[/qu
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:45:00 - [51] Originally by: Kua Immortal I think its quite evident that The Domi needs a nos bonus or a rep bonus before its worth flying. You are correct. Originally by: jamesw I KNOW! Let's give it a NOS bonus and a DAMP bonus! That way - we could have a specialised NOS / EW DOMI! I bet everyone would like that! I like the way you think, but then what about drone damage? Should be a built in ability IMO. Originally by: volly Burn in Hell There is nothing wrong with the Apoc. Amarr should quit whining and learn to fly their ships properly. Originally by: Mjojjnir Those NOS skill requirements are really hard to train afterall. I mean a whole rank 3 skill to lvl 5, that must really hurt compared to other T2 offensive modules... I know! Originally by: nakKEDK long winded post You are obviously biased against Gallente, hence I have trouble taking you seriously. Originally by: n0thing At least consider thinking about comparing damage bonus and control range bonus before trying to copy threads. Both are marginally useful on ships that are competitive in their usual configurations. I don't find you funny nor useful. Good Day. Originally by: Aioa Rly? I thought it was quite obvious just from how daft the OP was, I had not even read Murder One's thread. Here's some clues: (...) Originally by: Litus Arowar guys, he's just making fun of murder one's post, grow that part of your brain that lets you detect sarcasm Originally by: murder one Is everyone on this forum except myself just slow, or what? It is good to see not everyone lacked oxygen at birth.
Captain Crimson United Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:20:00 - [52] The above reply shows trolling and forum alting. Typical egomaniac then. This takes spawnsupreme and benn helmsmann and makes them look like good threads. Originally by: Tuxford I have already expressed my personal opinion on this and it was very positive (something about happy in the pants).
Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:21:00 - [53] Isn't this kind of trolling against the forum rules? It IS getting out of hand lately... I mean, the guy actually has the gall to say the apocs bonuses are better than the domis... The only reason people don't fit blasters and thus don't use the bonus is that nos is quite overpowered. Of course, people like the OP covete overpowered things because they lack the mental capacity to understand the concept of balance. Doesn't mean the bonus is bad. And the MFS logic just *****ed me up, going by that every damage bonus on every ship needs to be trashed. Maybe all ships should be nossing droneboats? There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:38:00 - [54] Originally by: Leandro Salazar Isn't this kind of trolling against the forum rules? It IS getting out of hand lately... I mean, the guy actually has the gall to say the apocs bonuses are better than the domis... The only reason people don't fit blasters and thus don't use the bonus is that nos is quite overpowered. Of course, people like the OP covete overpowered things because they lack the mental capacity to understand the concept of balance. Doesn't mean the bonus is bad. And the MFS logic just *****ed me up, going by that every damage bonus on every ship needs to be trashed. Maybe all ships should be nossing droneboats? What is wrong with you people? I'm going to lay it out since it's not clear: this thread's purpose was to mock murder one's change the ishtar's bonus thread, in fact half of the OP was copied word for word. I agree with the last paragraph tough .
Neena Valdi Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:50:00 - [55] Originally by: Leandro Salazar The only reason people don't fit blasters and thus don't use the bonus is that nos is quite overpowered. FYI, ppl do fit blasters on dominix. Maybe its not as common as pure nos/neut fittings, but it definitely have a place.
Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:43:00 - [56] Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 20/07/2007 15:42:48 Originally by: PWNERIZE Originally by: Leandro Salazar Isn't this kind of trolling against the forum rules? It IS getting out of hand lately... I mean, the guy actually has the gall to say the apocs bonuses are better than the domis... The only reason people don't fit blasters and thus don't use the bonus is that nos is quite overpowered. Of course, people like the OP covete overpowered things because they lack the mental capacity to understand the concept of balance. Doesn't mean the bonus is bad. And the MFS logic just *****ed me up, going by that every damage bonus on every ship needs to be trashed. Maybe all ships should be nossing droneboats? What is wrong with you people? I'm going to lay it out since it's not clear: this thread's purpose was to mock murder one's change the ishtar's bonus thread, in fact half of the OP was copied word for word. I agree with the last paragraph tough . Well if one didn't read murder one's thread it is kinda easy to miss the mockery. And since murder one's thread was on page two when I spotted this, I did not read it until now. Him having stupid conceptions I fundamentally disagree with most of the time did its part as well. Funny enough that this time he actually has a point imho, but thats off topic. And with a stupid-name all caps alt and all the trollage/idiocy going on in this forum recently, it is hard to tell whether something is mockery or serious... There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:03:00 - [57] Yeah i agree. The domi is so underpowered atm it needs a boost. It can't handle itself in any 1v1's so it really needs another great bonus. Maybe 200% to nos amount per lvl or someting. Should balance it with the other bs DE
Dristra Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:28:00 - [58] Are Eve-forum users this dumb? This thread is just a joke, its to get attention by blurting out a ridiculous statement! It's great being Amarr isn't it.
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:45:00 - [59] Edited by: welsh wizard on 20/07/2007 17:45:15 First the Ishtar thread and now this!? Surely this is still murder one pulling the forum residents collective leg? edit: Oh it basically is. lol
Santa Anna Caldari Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:55:00 - [60] Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere Originally by: xHalcyonx Originally by: PWNERIZE You are quite close. The person this thread is based on is a myth, a legend. A man of Ben Helmsmann caliber. CYVOK? Who's CYVOK? Really I don't know. CYVOK was Innominate Nightmare's alt. _____ CPU Love
JoeT Amarr Short Attention Span Nex Eternus	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:25:00 - [61] hush you. The 5% large turret bonus i use alot in a domi along with the drone bonus
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:29:00 - [62] Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 20/07/2007 17:45:15 First the Ishtar thread and now this!? Surely this is still murder one pulling the forum residents collective leg? edit: Oh it basically is. lol I have no associatoin or connection with the OP. He's just another noob lamer lol. Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:32:00 - [63] I have no association or connection with Murder One. He's just another Gallente whiner. lol
Captain Crimson United Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.20 20:01:00 - [64] I have no association with either of you as my avatar apparently looks like either a) a pedophile or b) that *** dealer from down the road. Pick your favorite. Originally by:** Tuxford I have already expressed my personal opinion on this and it was very positive (something about happy in the pants).
KD.Fluffy The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.20 20:26:00 - [65] Quote: Double drone damage bonus. Other ships have double bonuses to damage as well. Why not the Domi? Make the BS second bonus a +5% drone damage bonus (no HP bonus increase). The domi already has double damage bonuses. A neutron gank domi is one of the highest dpsing ships in game. What else could you want?... oh you want the nos domi to tank even better then it already does? lol lets make it more broken whos onboard!
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.07.20 20:28:00 - [66] Originally by: PWNERIZE I have no association or connection with Murder One. He's just another Gallente whiner. lol Whos whining? I'm not whining. Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
Dark Kavar Caldari Aionios Diadochi Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.20 21:03:00 - [67] Anyone else think that this guy is just joking/trolling? Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.07.20 21:57:00 - [68] Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 20/07/2007 21:58:12 Originally by: PWNERIZE Wouldn't you rather it have energy emission systems duration, say 20% reduction per level?! BORING. Stuff besides Nosferatu fits up there, and is effective. Try using it sometime, and you won't be so BORING. Quote: Energy transfer cycle time: let's face it the Domi was made for nos. Then why doesn't it already have that bonus, you tard? -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Zo5o	Posted - 2007.07.20 23:25:00 - [69] Thanks to the hybrid bonus on the Domi, one can add significant DPS with 4 rails on a PvE Domi and still fit a mean tank. Without the bonus, the rails would tickle rats.
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.21 00:32:00 - [70] Originally by: murder one Whos whining? I'm not whining. "Megas are quickly becoming a ship for the elite." Originally by: Guillame Herschel Then why doesn't it already have that bonus, you tard? You have an intellect of magnanimous proportions.
fkingfurious	Posted - 2007.07.21 00:37:00 - [71] Take away the domis turret bonus and you FORCE it to be a hellah lame * as whiney total pice of nos boat. With a turret bonus the few decent pilots out there can get really REALLY good setups. The quickfit crowd, and the " i seen this in the ship setup sticky so i flied it" crowd can all off tbh. Nos is *.
PWNERIZE	Posted - 2007.07.21 00:42:00 - [72] Edited by: PWNERIZE on 21/07/2007 00:41:24 Originally by: fkingfurious Nos is *. A ***** men.
n0thing omen.	Posted - 2007.07.21 01:55:00 - [73] Originally by: DarkElf Yeah i agree. The domi is so underpowered atm it needs a boost. It can't handle itself in any 1v1's so it really needs another great bonus. Maybe 200% to nos amount per lvl or someting. Should balance it with the other bs DE Tbh, a merged bonuses between Curse and Domi on Domi would be fun ---
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.07.21 02:57:00 - [74] Forum posts that are not stickyfied: Do Not Take Seriously.. That is all.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
max bygraves	Posted - 2007.07.21 03:06:00 - [75] Its bonus is fine
Princess Xenia	Posted - 2007.07.21 04:17:00 - [76] Edited by: Princess Xenia on 21/07/2007 04:18:43 PWNERIZE u r an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Princess Xenia	Posted - 2007.07.21 04:18:00 - [77] PWNERIZE u r an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why bother changing the bonus.... a waste of time i say... the devs got better thing to do like: give the dominix more high slots and PG+cpu... this way they get to fit more NOS..... also since we are at it .... I DO NOT WANT ANY DAMP BONUS.... again give it more mid slots... Also y do people need a DAMAGE BONUS?????? Give the Dominix more low slots.... DO NOT CHANGE DOMINIX BONUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN U R AN IDIOT PWNERIZE!!!!!!!!!!
Nebrin Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2007.07.21 05:57:00 - [78] Not our fault people dont use blasters on their domi because they are nos *****s. That thing chews through other BS's like a fat kid through skittles, if properly fitted.
baaaaal	Posted - 2007.07.21 06:24:00 - [79] i vote for 5% to drone tracking or 5% more drone range or both dominix should be a pro sniper with sentry drones imo give the 2nd bonos something that makes it happen. lets face it domi is probably the worse fleet ship there is
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.21 06:47:00 - [80] Edited by: Wrayeth on 21/07/2007 06:50:18 Repeat after me: The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting. The dominix needs nerfing, not boosting.... EDIT: Actually, since the dominix currently has three bonuses, change the domi's bonus scheme to drone damage and drone hitpoints, instead of drone damage, drone hitpoints, and hybrid damage. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Corwain Gallente Kamite	Posted - 2007.07.21 06:47:00 - [81] I know this is a joke thread, but I still would like to vote for a RCU I worth of more PG. -- A Solo Arbitrator vid, Distortion by Corwain
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2007.07.21 07:02:00 - [82]

Wachtmeister Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.07.21 07:08:00 - [83] This thread has apparently derailed beyond repair and will be lockzored. click forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website Contrary to popular belief he actually has a body -Eldo My body is well trained and I have a sixpack.... in the fridge. -Wachty


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