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kittypaws
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Posted - 2007.07.24 16:54:00 -
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So hm yeah the only tool to figth a bitt of blobbing is now usless?
Any one seens a titan in use after the nerf? Any one used the titan FOR FIGTHING after the nerf?
ET even said he whuld never use it again cus its so Wonerable after the patch. It is the most unbalanced ship in eve atm, it costs 40 bil, and can be killed\made unusable by a ship thath cost's 10mil, and a module thath cost 200k isk.
yes i know they nedded a nerf realy realy bad, but ccp didd a bit to much here.
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Mr McKin
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Posted - 2007.07.24 16:57:00 -
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Doomsday is not the only use for Titans. The another reason why titans weren't in action since the rev 2.0 (except Shrike's who have payed a high price) - the major desync problems: get your support fleet desynced and say bye-bye my supercapital... Hopefully, CCP really fixed all desync issues in today's patch.
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kittypaws
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:01:00 -
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NA descyn is crap, but a Supercapital wil die fast now, they are way to easy to kill! Even before the new fix moterships died. What they shuld have done was to make the dd eat all the cap, and make it unable to jump out 10minutes after the DD was fired, A dictor bubble shuld NOT stop ships jumpin out, but just hold them for warping out
All other ships can jump while in a dictor bubble, wy cant supercaps? (yes i know they dont use gates)
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:02:00 -
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please edit your post so we can read it.
and titans give a bonus of 50% to all cap, or 65% reduction to all sig radius, or other broken bonuses.
the doomsday is not the best weapon it has. a good titan pilot wouldn't even use it unless the fight had been going on for a while a a quick big burst of damage is needed.
that cap would be better used for tanking to keep the other ships bonuses alive. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP |
Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Tarminic on 24/07/2007 17:17:45
Originally by: kittypaws Edited by: kittypaws on 24/07/2007 17:08:49 NA descyn is not the biggest problem(it's a problem made becus we blob;) ,
Unfortunately, this is not the case - the desync problem has occured to both small and large fleets. Hopefully, this is fixed now though... *crosses fingers*
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but a Supercapital wil die fast now, they are way to easy to kill! Even before the new fix moterships died. What they shuld have done was to make the dd eat all the cap, and make it unable to jump out 10minutes after the DD was fired, A dictor bubble shuld NOT stop ships jumpin out, but just hold them for warping out All other ships can jump while in a dictor bubble, wy cant supercaps? (yes i know they dont use gates)
Actually, no capital ships can jump out if they're bubbled. And the titan nerf was definitely needed. And they did make it so DD eats a bunch of cap and make it so it can't jump out for ten minutes, actually. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery. |
kittypaws
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:23:00 -
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yes, and it was to much Moterships died in combat even tho they culd jump out of bubbles, they where hard to kill as they shuld be. Moterships now are easy to kill, all you need is a dictor..
Titan's and Mothership's shuld be HARD to kill, you shuld need a lot more then a dictor to hold them down!
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Sebastien LeReparteur
Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:30:00 -
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Indeed all you need is a dicto. Dictors are so pwn mobile they can single out Mothership tank like this *CLICK*.
Why even field a massive fleet to take out the MS... Why need support fleet for MS every one should fly dictors!!!
Scoop of the day man Dictors FTW!!!
Dictors can tank 20 + litgh drones and a support fleet! NERF dictors!!!
MS are not the invulnarable pwn mobile anymore!!! CRY me a river...
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kittypaws
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur Indeed all you need is a dicto. Dictors are so pwn mobile they can single out Mothership tank like this *CLICK*.
Why even field a massive fleet to take out the MS... Why need support fleet for MS every one should fly dictors!!!
Scoop of the day man Dictors FTW!!!
Dictors can tank 20 + litgh drones and a support fleet! NERF dictors!!!
MS are not the invulnarable pwn mobile anymore!!! CRY me a river...
MS where newer Solo pwn mobiles in 0.0, all you needed was nos to hold them from jumpin, and a dictor to keep them from warping.. Shuld be just as hard to kill a titan.
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level80uberruler
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: level80uberruler on 24/07/2007 17:33:59
Originally by: kittypaws Edited by: kittypaws on 24/07/2007 17:07:09 So the only tool to figthing of blobbing is now usless?
Hahahaha n00b. Titans caused blobs since it could DD any small fleet. In fact it created cap blobs.
lol you fail
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kittypaws
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: level80uberruler Edited by: level80uberruler on 24/07/2007 17:33:59
Originally by: kittypaws Edited by: kittypaws on 24/07/2007 17:07:09 So the only tool to figthing of blobbing is now usless?
Hahahaha n00b. Titans caused blobs since it could DD any small fleet. In fact it created cap blobs.
lol you fail
hmm titans killed blob's yeah? and i have newer seen so much blobbing as i do now. you fail thank you
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Sebastien LeReparteur
Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:36:00 -
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Look at the GOONS frap and coutn the number of dictors, BS, Dread and all.
Bob pulled out because they chickened out their cap fleet.
And get the GOON TS version where you here all the dictors pilot calling their aggressor. GOONS pulled a very coordinated attack in a short call. Those dictors died and worked very hard.
Bob could have saved the titan but decided to saved the cap fleet. -----------
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur Look at the GOONS frap and coutn the number of dictors, BS, Dread and all.
Bob pulled out because they chickened out their cap fleet.
And get the GOON TS version where you here all the dictors pilot calling their aggressor. GOONS pulled a very coordinated attack in a short call. Those dictors died and worked very hard.
Bob could have saved the titan but decided to saved the cap fleet.
I don't think they could have saved it, frankly...they would have probably had to go out there with a dozen salvage destroyers just so the thing could even think about warping, in addition to killing the interdictors and keeping the titan alive under fire from a coordinated attack from RA's dreadnoughts and Goonswarms support fleet. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery. |
level80uberruler
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:41:00 -
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Edited by: level80uberruler on 24/07/2007 17:41:02
Originally by: kittypaws
I sux
lol you fail!
The only way to take them out is a blob. If you say they prevents blobs then you sir are a fool and has never fought one.
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Snapp
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: kittypaws
Originally by: level80uberruler Edited by: level80uberruler on 24/07/2007 17:33:59
Originally by: kittypaws Edited by: kittypaws on 24/07/2007 17:07:09 So the only tool to figthing of blobbing is now usless?
Hahahaha n00b. Titans caused blobs since it could DD any small fleet. In fact it created cap blobs.
lol you fail
hmm titans killed blob's yeah? and i have newer seen so much blobbing as i do now. you fail thank you
I say, that you have never seen a blob period. I figure that you read a few pages about the goings on in 0.0 and have decided that you are an expert on these things. sorry bub, if what you have typed is what you believe, then you have never fought these things. or seen a "real" fight out in the darkness. I so came to party!
Founding member of the "Gonna Gank a CareBear Alliance"
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Sebastien LeReparteur
Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:45:00 -
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On a side note I wonder now with the bombers what could have both sides done...
Those bomb take out wrecks and dictors I guess? As well as drones....
We yet have to see a coordinated small bomber fleet action. -----------
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Johnfromshipping
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:53:00 -
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The titan jumpbridge is still an incredible ability.
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 24/07/2007 17:56:15 Personally I just think Titans should be given the ability to fit a Siege Module. It would buff the titans abillity to tank after deploying the Doomsday Device, and 6-7 sieged weapons would also give it a PoS/Capital Busting role outside it's Doomsday Device.
edit: Oh and of course the Doomsday device wouldn't be effected by the Siege modifier. ______________________
DubanFP> I stopped capitalizing the g in goonswarm a little while back. I find they no longer deserved the little bit of extra effort required to press the shift key. |
kittypaws
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:57:00 -
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lol i haven lived in 0.0 all my eve-life, and ofc this is a alt.. Coming from tcf about blobing is not mather, you work with the Blobbers yourself aka, the goons ;)
A titan culd kill lots of ships in a blast yes, and they where to powerfull! They got a nerf, and they got nerfed way to much! making them unable to jump out of bubbles is just stupid, you culd kill supercaps before this(yes i know titans where realy realy hard to kill, but not imposible
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP edit: Oh and of course the Doomsday device wouldn't be effected by the Siege modifier.
You sure about that? ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery. |
Ione Hunt
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:00:00 -
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The nerf rocks!
Titans aren't weak now, you just need to back it up with a sizeable support fleet.
Down with solo-pwn mobiles!!! _______________
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Draygo Korvan
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:04:00 -
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The introduction of a blob killer that requires a massive blob to kill was a flawed game design in the first place.
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Sikozu Prioris
Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:08:00 -
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I hope u do realise with motherships that if the pilot is acting as part of a small gang without a large support fleet they are most likely to fit officer smartbombs. Guess what this means...
By by dictors, by by bubbles.
(Also that the mothership pilot aint a noob and decides to do the sensible when solo)
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kittypaws
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sikozu Prioris I hope u do realise with motherships that if the pilot is acting as part of a small gang without a large support fleet they are most likely to fit officer smartbombs. Guess what this means...
By by dictors, by by bubbles.
(Also that the mothership pilot aint a noob and decides to do the sensible when solo)
Check the video, and some fact's all moterships killed had smartboms on, all you need to do is drop them outside of Smartbomb range ;)
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sikozu Prioris I hope u do realise with motherships that if the pilot is acting as part of a small gang without a large support fleet they are most likely to fit officer smartbombs. Guess what this means...
By by dictors, by by bubbles. (Also that the mothership pilot aint a noob and decides to do the sensible when solo)
I'm sure webber drones + fighters and painters would probably work well too, for that matter. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:13:00 -
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once again... a 50% bonus to cap for every ship in the fleet is worth 50 bil alone. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP |
Haakon Jarl
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon once again... a 50% bonus to cap for every ship in the fleet is worth 50 bil alone.
Yeah but youre a n00b
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Hannobaal
Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:22:00 -
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The Titan before was impossible to kill in battle. The two that were killed were killed because they logged off with an aggression timer, which made them sitting ducks once they were probed out.
Now, they are balanced. If you're going to use them you need a big fleet to protect them. That's as it should be. ------------------
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Haakon Jarl
Originally by: MotherMoon once again... a 50% bonus to cap for every ship in the fleet is worth 50 bil alone.
Yeah but youre a n00b
meaning? ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP |
Yaay
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.24 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal The Titan before was impossible to kill in battle. The two that were killed were killed because they logged off with an aggression timer, which made them sitting ducks once they were probed out.
Now, they are balanced. If you're going to use them you need a big fleet to protect them. That's as it should be.
Funny, and here I thought we were trying to reduce lag and oversized fleets...
Titans did get overly nerfed, and it's a shame they don't take the front lines anymore, whether BOB or other. If you notice, no Titans have been launched since that patch, yet several were close to build stage. It was overpowered before, and nobody argued about that. It only needed 2 real fixes, it's capacitor, and it's remote DD. The capacitor could have easily been fixed by causing the DD to take at least 60% of it's cap.
Desyncs have been the smallest problem in super cap warefare. Now it's an issue of choosing 15 carriers over one mom, or 55 dreads over 1 titan. With the current state, it's pretty obvious which people are choosing. Super Capitals should be tough to kill, and should take a lot of work and planning (not dumb luck, not a few dictors and a ton of dreads).
I don't defend the titan kills on our side, they were what they were. Love em or hate em, at least they were preventable from the other side. Dictor bubbles are causing the same argument that existed before patch for normal capitals. Why should 1 tiny ship be able to hold down a something so big. It's easy to argue for until it directly affects you. It's funny how many people wanted capital class scrambling mods, yet instead, they went with something that required far less risk for such a great reward. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Khorian/war_progress.jpg |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.07.24 19:58:00 -
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something so small holdign something so big... so what else should get that job...? just titans scrambling titans?
heck, it's just dictors - less defenses than a destroyer and no t2 resistances either. has EVE become so capital'ed that a bunch of cruisers is too much to ask to take down ~80m signature ships? - putting the gist back into logistics |
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